Hey folks! Thanks for watching, I hope you all enjoyed, this is my longest video I’ve made in the past few months, so hopefully it’s enjoyable (and I didn’t get anything wrong) Also, I have Memberships now, it’s completely optional, and there probably won’t be much if any optional content locked behind it other then Emojis and Badges and a bit early access to videos (probably right when I upload them, typically I work on descriptions and chapters for a bit before making the video public), but, if you’d like to further support me, then that is probably the best way, thank you all either way, I really do appreciate all the support lately, and I hope you all continue to enjoy these little videos :)
@MetronaJ2 ай бұрын
You did get 1 thing wrong (though very minor) Phantom force no longer bypasses accuracy checks as of gen 7 and onwards
@maybexand...3 ай бұрын
porygon-z: the mon that becomes broken when it actually has options
@typhlosion78723 ай бұрын
It's banned in most OMs from what I've seen. Another big one is in the pokebilities meta where having all of Download, Adaptability, and Analytic made it completely overpowered in the meta
@MyOnlyBedBreaker3 ай бұрын
Porygon z theorem kicks in again
@brunop.87453 ай бұрын
If the rules of pokemon are changed in any way, Porygon-Z instantly becomes a meta threat
@thebumpercar13443 ай бұрын
@@brunop.8745 : The Porygon-Z theorem!
@hiddenmosaic2 ай бұрын
My glorious king Porygon Z
@braedenwinstead19843 ай бұрын
It really does just take the slightest nudge to take porygon from RU~UU status all the way to ubers, that thing is balanced on a knifes edge
@tsuna_o73 ай бұрын
to be honest, almost every pokemon is balanced on a knifes edge 😭
@itsyaboi12453 ай бұрын
Yeh idk if id call giving a pokemon a 140bp no drawback stab move a slight nudge
@braedenwinstead19843 ай бұрын
@@itsyaboi1245 that happened to be what sent it this time because this general meta game is much higher power than normal OU but it would take much less in a normal meta game to send it to Ubers ^~^ just 110-120 BP stab ala CC equivalent would be enough
@nichiyes262 ай бұрын
@@tsuna_o7 any pokemon can be good given the right format.
@GodzillaFreak2 ай бұрын
80% extra damage isn't exactly slight
@TanatatKnight2462 ай бұрын
I can’t believe the water spider glowed too much, and then got banned for throwing grenade sized shurikens at super sonic speed.
@EvelynIsBased2 ай бұрын
Truly a ghastly ban, unbelievable
@IAmGalaxian-bi6coАй бұрын
@@EvelynIsBasedwhy’d Gastly get banned?
@R.P.Genocraft3 ай бұрын
Shoutouts to Comatose + Sleep Talk + Revival Blessing too :)
@gjmguy79943 ай бұрын
Revivecats the sequel
@문브라더스-h7eАй бұрын
Sounds like a [freaking] nightmare
@fairmaidenrat28 күн бұрын
Holy fuck that's horrifying
@fiascothe63rd2 ай бұрын
Gotta love Water Bubble's in-game text just... not mentioning its incredibly powerful second effect.
@EvelynIsBased2 ай бұрын
Literally though
@floofzykitty5072Ай бұрын
Pokemon ability and move descriptions be like: But seriously. The stadium games did so much right that was just... Left behind, including having the odds of additional effects in move and ability descriptions.
@pintitledploose94843 ай бұрын
I remember lilligant being very annoying in the pre-dlc metagame. Not just because of flower trick but also because triple arrows was also legal back then. I haven’t touched the metagame in a while but i’m surprised that it got unbanned
@EvelynIsBased3 ай бұрын
Nowadays Triple Arrows is luckily banned, guess Lilligant H wasn't happy with being unbanned though
@randomunovafan27873 ай бұрын
The moment I heard what stabmons was, I immediately thought Porygon-Z boomburst
@banditrests3 ай бұрын
STABmons is such an interesting format, because AAA is never really going to happen but move pool changes happen all the time and there are some major problems with the standard distributions as it is. Lots of stuff just straight up don’t get good STAB moves and lots of interesting signature moves are stuck on bad mons or Pokémon that don’t really want to use them, so it asks some fascinating questions as a format.
@guanchampo3 ай бұрын
Honestly I feel like Pory-Z becoming broken when given anything is well-known now. I had to look up why Latios is banned given I wouldn't have said its moveset was bad before, but the answer is the new move options are too good (Dragon Energy & Clanging Scales for stronger dragon attacks, Lumina Crash/Esper Wing & Psycho Boost for more versatile & powerful psychic attacks, and Take Heart is an improved calm mind)
@doorbox7882 ай бұрын
stabmons just makes me sad aerodactyl doesn’t get brave bird or head smash, but has the ability rock head. In fact the only recoil moves it learns regularly is double edge and take down.
@srgzachattack15942 ай бұрын
Before someone says it's because it's not a bird neither is crobat
@brunop.8745Ай бұрын
@@srgzachattack1594Aerodactyl is still a million times closer to a bird than Crobat ever could be, so really GF has no excuse
@philiphunt-bull581726 күн бұрын
It's a dinosaur that flies, how is that not a bird???
@thearrivalcyberseignister88983 ай бұрын
Porygon z at the slightless buff: trought overused and underused im alone am the borderline one
@efgg32123 ай бұрын
boomburst + stab + specs is always fun. Every normal type can cosplay as Exploud in stab mons, its a bless.
@doorsalesman97663 ай бұрын
thank you evelyn for providing commentary on niche bans in the smogon stabmons tier. i appreciate the work that you put into your videos. :3
@EvelynIsBased3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching Doorsalesman, I appreciate your service in selling quality, fashionable, doors :)
@jimothycool2 ай бұрын
That Koala has value.
@Toy-Bonnie.2 ай бұрын
Every Koala has it's day
@kilometer2123 ай бұрын
keep doing more of these!! love the longer style vids too. keep it up !!
@EvelynIsBased3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Was hoping the longer style would be good even if I had to do a bit less editing in a few portions
@Celon5493 ай бұрын
I remember the very beginnings of STABmons being introduced. Porygon-Z has always been the single most broken mon in the format, even with constant bans to certain moves. Early STABmons Porygon-Z at its full potential with Shell Smash, Boomburst, Judgement with Fist Plate, and Shadow Ball is one of the most horrifying Pokemon in existence.
@pezyg3 ай бұрын
Yoooo Zoroark was good in something, lets goooo
@blaz94742 ай бұрын
Zoroark-H is pretty fun to run off of a Lucario. Both of them can run extremely similar Nasty Plot movesets, as well as knowing a ton of the same moves, and you could even mix physical and special moves on said Lucario to (at the cost of its offenses) make your opponent never know what the hell you're planning to unleash next. This is why my casual friend doesn't like battling me.
@UnknownPikmin3 ай бұрын
these thumbnails smell like the work if a certain iron mug
@ysshuu3 ай бұрын
Thank you Evelin! Your editing is amazing as always and it really more impressive for a channel of your size. I consistently think you have a 100k or more 😅 keep up the awesome stuff
@benoire-chan45853 ай бұрын
These videos are such high quality
@Hamhamsnoozer2 ай бұрын
When you put up a graphic of a move description, like victory dance, you should include the part that says what the move actually does
@KoigYTАй бұрын
Porygon-Z would sound insane with Boomburst, Throat Spray, and Tera Normal
@PeriGreen7763 ай бұрын
6:23 the water bubble flavor text just omits the water boost
@Eroil3 ай бұрын
Great vid! Well edited and well explained. Hope to see more from you in the future
@EvelynIsBased2 ай бұрын
Much appreciated :)
@MissHell993 ай бұрын
It’s always like a little treat when you post videos ❤
@JoeSmith-db4rqАй бұрын
Super fascinating video, thank you :)
@amberhernandez2 ай бұрын
I'm so used to seeing Ogerpon-Wellspring,png and TingLu,png because Showdown hasn't updated 95% of the gen 9 roster, and seeing those mons actually moving caught me seriously off-guard 😭
@EvelynIsBased2 ай бұрын
Newer Mons like them have massive file sizes too so I can't blame Showdown lol
@coandy70052 ай бұрын
Definitely needs a part 2
@Pure_Linnsanity3 ай бұрын
Fantastic quality and interesting subject, subscribed. ♥
@AJJohn-sl8wn2 ай бұрын
love the vid! the recent vids have been really nice :) so glad to see you grow!
@EvelynIsBased2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much :)
@AltohP3 ай бұрын
If possible, could we get pictures of move descriptions in future videos? Me who is new to gen 9 and 8 stuff is confused. Plus idk how helpful it is to see that every move is or isn't effected by kings rock and mirror move under its PP stats.
@rubenmatinezlopez26622 ай бұрын
I was gonna subscribe then I saw that I already was, lol. I wish people subscribed more to these kinda channels if they liked it tbh, thats the only way for you guys not only to grow, but to even keep existing.
@wacobodene34533 ай бұрын
evelyn you're so based
@Quiizzey2 ай бұрын
Is there a reason Zoroark H used shadow ball over Moongeist beam!? Is it literally just PP or am I missing something, I would expect you don’t even click the ghost move that often so just seemed odd
@EvelynIsBased2 ай бұрын
No actually there's not a reason, I just forgot lol, but it'd most likely use Astral Barrage for the extra damage :)
@volbla3 ай бұрын
Excuse you, Porygon also learns Hyper Beam!
@olivergro71052 ай бұрын
I like to think that zoroark became a dark type because zoroark hisui was always just hit with dark type moves so at some point it decided to illusion itself into one
@J010002 ай бұрын
Have you considered including the text of a move when you put the card on screen? As it stands, if you don't already know what status moves like Victory Dance do, the graphic you use only really shows pp/accuracy, not an effect. Same thing with secondary effects of regular moves, such that moves like Water Shuriken aren't immediately obvious that they're a multi-hit, etc.
@jayconstell99373 ай бұрын
I don't play stabmons but another thing to note is how h-zoroark normally doesn't have access to encore, unlike regular zoroark. So imagine the enemy using normal/fighting/ghost move, use encore, force them to leave while you set up
@darko-man85493 ай бұрын
I play AAA a lot but now I’m getting into STABmons
@spartacusthememelord68903 ай бұрын
I'd like to call into question when you said that Phantom Force can't miss at around the three minute mark. I could be wrong but I thought Phantom Force could miss, but it broke through Protecting moves instead?
@EvelynIsBased3 ай бұрын
You right, my bad lol, thank you for the correction :)
@spartacusthememelord68903 ай бұрын
@@EvelynIsBased No problem :)
@echogaia17082 ай бұрын
Maybe your confuse with hyperspace fury
@rajkanishu2 ай бұрын
lovely video mate, would love to see more
@OurRedVillain3 ай бұрын
You''d have a great Joker impression if you tried to do it!
@Greeningout6663 ай бұрын
I agree lmao
@sheeplol21613 ай бұрын
can you do a video but about the banned/restricted moves instead?
@sketchydude84312 ай бұрын
I still find it really funny when one major mechanics change just makes Porygon-Z broken This is like the 3rd or 4th gamemode I've seen this happen
@marluroux87282 ай бұрын
Cool video bro, I hope the channel grows 💯💪
@graylyhen94902 ай бұрын
Cool vid bro. There's some insane stuff in STABmons. Very cool metagame
@EvelynIsBased2 ай бұрын
Much appreciated, I'm glad you enjoyed
@zemufinman16392 ай бұрын
Just based on the name I thought that Mons in this mode could ONLY use stab moves, that would be quite interesting but could make ground, normal, ghost, fighting, poison and dragon types really bad. I dont remember if you said this but is it truly EVERY move of that type or every normal move? Like can all ground types use thousand arrows?
@stealthy91562 ай бұрын
Yes
@EvelynIsBased2 ай бұрын
It is every move of that type that is in the game, an important distinction as Thousand Arrows is a part of Zygarde, and as such is unobtainable in Pokemon Scarlet and Violet since Zygarde isn't in it
@Fanimati0n2 ай бұрын
Komala is honestly the only one i didn't understand the second i saw it. Porygon-Z is one of the easiest to understand. Like, it's always going to be good. It has some versatility, but its lack of reliable STAB offense keeps it from being GREAT. Letting it get Boomburst immediately makes it busted
@trooper88352 ай бұрын
My immediate thought for Porygon…. Extreme Speed…..
@darko-man85493 ай бұрын
Lilligant just getting banned was sad :( I loved him on my team - then again he won me A LOT of matches Will have to rebuild the team
@ryankeathley9953 ай бұрын
cautious. "precautious" is squigled and made me flinch
@ryankeathley9953 ай бұрын
otherwise nice vid. I love tldr's on tiers
@MagikarpPower2 ай бұрын
i believe bc of its ability (like huge power) araquanid has an equivalent of 150 base special attack while using water moves with max investment
@echogaia17082 ай бұрын
No, water bubble raw doubles the base power of the move, so shuriken Can go from 60 to 150
@djog7264Ай бұрын
What about focus sash, endeavor EXTREME SPEED rattata
@jmcbango3 ай бұрын
I have to ask: why not just have a comatalk clause like several other OMs if thats whats breaking komala?
@dreepyairlines3 ай бұрын
doesn’t normally get phazing without STAB legality
@Viperacrx6003 ай бұрын
If P-Z got 15-20 base speed increase, it would be an Uber Pokemon. 90 base speed holds it back so much.
@plabcentral6302 ай бұрын
Araquanid is not joke, the most Pokémon of all time.
@sashaesb2 ай бұрын
im love you ever linn thanks for giving my good content
@daxdleader7193 ай бұрын
And just like that, hundreds of people contemplated how to exploit sleep talk + roar on a mon other than komala for like 2 mins and realized it's bad
@meepsoleruler444Ай бұрын
Yeah.. like how they made copycat not work on roar because they decided that Riolu was too overpowered.
@nurifu_nightlyАй бұрын
I haven't watched the video yet but because porygon-z is in the thumbnail i assume there were some adaptability boosted boomburst shenanigans Edit: I am psychic 🔮
@Bruh_idk69lulАй бұрын
Im assuming astral spreadmove was banned before zoroark-h, which would explain it using shadowball
@EvelynIsBasedАй бұрын
@@Bruh_idk69lul Would be true if Astral was banned but that was just my personal mistake lol
@Greeningout6663 ай бұрын
I'm learning so much omg
@rizi78322 ай бұрын
surely komala could be allowed, just ban it having roar and sleep talk in the same set, or having sleep talk entirely banned?
@astropult93773 ай бұрын
I love the fact Porygon Z is broken in almost any meta game
@adamfirstman02 ай бұрын
lore accurate
@BS-gk2cb2 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie, porygon straight up sounds fair. Like it hits like a truck but so do a lot of things in stabmons. If you’re team gets swept then you had a pretty obvious weakness you failed to consider. Although I’ve seen moms get banned for less so it’s probably justified even if I don’t necessarily agree.
@EpicFail77777772 ай бұрын
You don’t need gholdengo to counter Kamala- can’t you just use any faster scarfer or Mon of your own, or any priority?
@EvelynIsBased2 ай бұрын
Technically but A.) You can't reliably get these Pokemon in, as force swapping will just get them roared out and B.) This removes entire archetypes from being played such as stall that lack fast Breakers.
@dustinbrown33173 ай бұрын
Wooded kingdom music 🔥🔥
@dustinbrown33173 ай бұрын
Or just all the odyssey music in general. Love the content
@EvelynIsBased2 ай бұрын
Mario odyssey in general got bangers in it's soundtrack, and thank you :)
@thefreshestmango11063 ай бұрын
TIL Acelgor learns Water Shuriken
@ZanedotmidiАй бұрын
Shiny Volcanion jumpscare
@fdrdevotee2 ай бұрын
Wait, how come Victory Dance is banned but Quiver Dance isn't?
@midoabolilaАй бұрын
Quiver dance is bug type whilst victory dance is fighting type.
@The-4722 ай бұрын
I assumed Zoroark-H would be banned by some sort of Glare + Hex set.. 😅
@gypsysprite48243 ай бұрын
I got one question left: Why was Garchomp banned from STABmons???
@EvelynIsBased3 ай бұрын
As I kind of show in the beginning, it gets access to Dragon Dance, which alongside Shore up can allow it to boost heal up, boost it's damage and speed, block Sucker Punch with Shore up, and punish attackers with Rough Skin. Oh and the most common defensive check, Landorus Therian, can't even block it via burns with Beak Blast, as thanks to it's Dragon typing, it also gains access to Dragon Darts, which also luckily fixes Garchomps major issue of no good Dragon STAB.
@norran422 ай бұрын
The first thing i thought of with Porygon-z was Blood Moon, but I'm going to guess thats banned
@EvelynIsBased2 ай бұрын
@@norran42 Blood Moon is not banned, as Boomburst and Blood Moon are the same move, but Blood Moon can't be used twice, essentially making it useless in the tier
@norran422 ай бұрын
@@EvelynIsBased ah, I was thinking that blood moon had the effect of Ursaluna's ability, so it would hit Ghost types. That makes it make sense
@Samsungor2 ай бұрын
Man I thought Water Shuriken was physical all this time
@Artoriandaraisin2 ай бұрын
Why is Ogerpon in every tier?
@CFgenesisv12 ай бұрын
At least my boi d assent talonflame hasn’t been banned
@Zeni-Pincher2 ай бұрын
why didn’t flower trick flapple get banned?
@EvelynIsBased2 ай бұрын
It's lower speed makes it slightly harder to take advantage of, and it's Dragon typing, unlike Lilligant H's Fighting typing, isn't particularly beneficial, as the main time you'd use a Fighting move would be to break through the occasional Steel types, which Flapple can't do. But it does have Dragon Dance and Sub, so maybe one day we will see a Flapple take over, but as of now it's been kinda dismissible.
@zacharybush46503 ай бұрын
How did barascewda use drill run in the vid?
@EvelynIsBased2 ай бұрын
Part of it's natural movepool
@thatsaladprophet70512 ай бұрын
Imagine Simple Tailglow.
@TrixterTheFemboy2 ай бұрын
Why the hell did you blur pory-z's attack stats lol
@doumaly400027 күн бұрын
The video was focusing on its flaws rather than it’s good attack stats
@TrixterTheFemboy27 күн бұрын
@@doumaly4000 no it was not lmao, it's specifically talking about how it had such absurd special attacking power with Adaptability Boomburst off high SpAtk it got banned.
@doumaly400026 күн бұрын
7:46 the video is focusing on its weaknesses, not it’s attack
@TrixterTheFemboy26 күн бұрын
@@doumaly4000 Fair point, that part of it is. It's just very strange to never show its base 135 SpAtk when that's a big part of why it was unmanageable.
@legthieff3 ай бұрын
STABmons is really fun. It’s just pretty insane that these usually bad pokémon get banned
@echogaia17082 ай бұрын
Shadow Ball ? More like Moongeist Beam or Astral Barrage
@calliopehu19243 ай бұрын
6:30 since when does Rotom-Wash have access to torch song? It's not even a fire type
@twilightsilver62303 ай бұрын
Appliance moves are weird, it gets all fire moves due to Rotom-Heat.
@calliopehu19243 ай бұрын
@@twilightsilver6230 that's a little silly, Rotom-Heat can't learn Hydro Pump in normal play. I understand the impulse (you want pokémon to keep the stab of their previous forms, so all Eeveelutions get Boomburst), but in this case they're probably better off separate... Otherwise, does Ogerpon just know all the moves of every STAB of all its forms?
@EvelynIsBased3 ай бұрын
Yes Ogerpon does, it was tested in Gen 8 to have Rotom not keep STABs between forms, it mostly just made it suck, as such, council members have let Rotom keep it's STABs as otherwise it's just an uninteresting unimpactful Pokemon.
@king_alloy2 ай бұрын
The idea behind type changers getting other types is that you "teach" them out of battle. An in game example where type out of battle and type in battle is what determines a Pokemon being able to learn a move are Mega Sceptile and Ampharos not getting access to Draco Meteor as they are not dragon types out of battle, which the tutor requires. For STABMons that means Silvally gets every move in the game, Rotom gets 7 types for a movepool, etc. For mons that change type only in battle however they don't get the access to the extra type, e.g. Meloetta wouldn't get access to all fighting moves. Another thing to consider is that pre evolution types contribute to the evolution's movepool for similar logic, thus Tyranitar gets access to Shore Up, a Ground move, thanks to Larvitar being Rock/Ground. The logic is entirely consistent.
@bryanozora59812 ай бұрын
what about whimsicott with spore?
@king_alloy2 ай бұрын
Iirc sleep moves are banned here.
@chewysolo49532 ай бұрын
Cool video, but the background scrolling is very distracting, especially at accelerated playback speed😵💫
@ninecity24553 ай бұрын
deserved more views
@violetk20203 ай бұрын
Is that you, Evelyn?
@EvelynIsBased2 ай бұрын
Hard to believe it but it's actually my imposter Nyleve
@ailurophilekia65652 ай бұрын
Can someone explain why a Normal/Ghost type in a format where it should only have Normal and Ghost type moves was running a Bug type move? I didn't get that part
@EvelynIsBased2 ай бұрын
@@ailurophilekia6565 STABmons let's Pokemon use any STAB from their STAB options, this doesn't invalidate them from using other moves though, hence why Porygon Z would run Agility, Shadow Ball, or etc
@ailurophilekia65652 ай бұрын
@@EvelynIsBased Thank you
@aeilius456020 күн бұрын
You need to work on your Heath Ledger Joker impression... 🤡
@kibais2 ай бұрын
2:22
@dukemydogyАй бұрын
Sorry man, had to stop watching due to how you pronounce pokemon. (Pokimon)
@spongebabe273 ай бұрын
Wait, how does Rotom Wash get Torch Song? I probably missed something, great video! ❤️
@EvelynIsBased3 ай бұрын
Every Pokemon with a Form change in game keeps STABs between forms, this rarely effects most Pokemon as they prefer to keep their STABs, but with Rotom it helps it in being very strong with Torch Song, Water Shuriken, Roost (Rotom Fly), and Freeze Dry (Rotom Refrigerator), hope this explained, and thank you for watching :)
@spongebabe273 ай бұрын
@@EvelynIsBased no way, that's crazy! This video is literally my first ever experience with this tier so I had no idea, thanks for explaining :) explains why Arceus is banned lmao
@echogaia17082 ай бұрын
@@EvelynIsBasedstrength sap is probably better than Roost.
@daxdleader7193 ай бұрын
And just like that, hundreds of people contemplated how to exploit sleep talk + roar on a mon other than komala for like 2 mins and realized it's bad
@supersaiyangod80363 ай бұрын
Me when the roar talker gets two roars before waking up and being forced to switch
@daxdleader7193 ай бұрын
Yeah lol and if you have rest it's a 50/50 if you even call roar and if you're ever clicking rest you can't be choice scarfed
@king_alloy2 ай бұрын
In Gen 3 sometimes Aerodactyl ran around with JUST sleep talk and roar like Komala does in the video so that it can switch into a predicted sleep move and mess with Pokemon for a bit.