Explaining Digimon: HAWKMON DIGIVOLUTION LINE [Digimon Conversation #51]

Let us talk about HAWKMON the bird Digimon that is sort of like Biyomon's version of Digimon season 2. I know that this video is a short one. It's just that...well...Hawkmon's Digivolution line makes sense. Biyomon's, on the other hand, does not anymore... opinions anyone?
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[@ghostshrimp5006]

Do you think you can look into plusemon again? He’s whole line is out and it’s pretty interesting

[@DigimonExplained]

Of course!!

[@ghostshrimp5006]

@@DigimonExplained sweet 👍

[@namesdontmattergaming2756]

@@DigimonExplained Is it possible for there to be a good Kimeramon that becomes a Millenniummon? Like maybe a Gazimon who bonds with a tamer, evolves into a deltamon through a massive boost in data in mid-digivolution?(that’s like an error right? Could explain Deltamon’s weird origins…Gazimon looks like a mammalian chimera). Then maybe through that bond, Millenniummon could be good? Or am I grasping at straws? 😞 Also could you make a video on NEO and Kernel?

[@JaMzNetwork]

Eagles have no predators, however it has an "ancient" rivalry with owls. They don't prey on each other but they have been known to antagonize and kill each other during their respective times of vulnerability (night and day)..... also thank you for the diligence and sharing your videos. The levels ✊🏾

[@deppo436]

At this stage, the games have showed me that while there is probably a natural evolution line for all Digimon out there, theoretically speaking a Digimon can have access to every form and stage, they ofc have different means of getting there.

[@shadowhell8378]

Maybe it was the translation difference but I thought veemon, armadillomon and Hawkmon were ancient digimon brought into the modern digital world. If so then hawkmon could be a ancestor to biyomon and that is why Garudamon is a possible evolution. As for birdramon it's possible that it has absorb enough dragon data in the past that the original birdmon gained some dragon traits but not enough to be classified as a member of the dragon's roar family and has a ultimate level that we don't know about that has even more dragon traits.

[@MegaGigaPetarD]

For me, Hawkmon's line would be Hawkmon - Aquilamon - Hippogrriffomon - Gryphonmon.

[@LunusVIP]

Because we all saw Birdramon to Garudamon we just feel more at home with it but design wise it just looks like it was made to be an evolution go hawkman and Aquilamon with the same cultural patterns and accessories

[@screechingtoad2683]

For me it would be Hawkmon - Aquilamon - Parrotmon - Eaglemon. Aquilamon is an eagle right?

[@MegaGigaPetarD]

@@screechingtoad2683 Yes.

[@terrysyvertson9205]

birdramon is capable of digivolving into parrotmon which can further digivolve into crossmon/eaglemon, so that could be a possible ultimate and mega for birdramon while garudamon and hououmon/phoenixmon could be hawkmon's ultimate and mega

[@Henry-jg5oj]

I think that Zhuqiaomon would make a perfect Mega for this evolution line in especific, he and Garudamon are both Holy digimon, Garuda being an God-like entity, and both have this flame theme, with red as their primary color with yellow as a secondary. I just think it fits really well

[@Silverflower017]

I’d love to see you cover a full timeline of what you think happened over the years in the digital world (from the beginning, to the ancient warriors, etc etc)

[@arthurchandler4770]

Birdramon is the lower version of Phoenixmon. It could digivve to Guarudamon just as a filler evolution because they both exist within the bird type lineage. So it’s just a transitional step.

[@joshuarodriguez6823]

It may take awhile, but I would definitely love a remake of the agumon/greymon line. Even if it takes 2 parts. I remember you talking about it awhile back and I've been looking forward to it ever since.

[@abraarquraishi1681]

About the digimon timeline, i always wondered if they happened in one digital world, or multiple? For example, maybe in one timeline the ancient warriors fought, while the ice age didn’t, while in another, the ice age happened while the ancient warriors didn’t fight. This would explain inconsistencies with multiple bandits backstories, like guilmon being takato’s creation vs it being a native of the digital world

[@andresmarrero8666]

One but multiple files. It really is best to think about it like one would do with programming and computers. The thing about Guilmon is that the species and it's digivolutions did not exist until Takato created him. That includes the likes of Megidramon and Gallantmon which both explains stuff such as Megidramon being the only one of the four heavenly dragons to change considerably with the X-antibody and questions others such as the nature of medievaldukemon.

[@bookmew1081]

I thought there were multiple Digital Worlds with them historically being deleted & recreated. Although multiple files is also possible & the Digital World can also connect to a few different Earths.

[@Magnamaster]

I love when you update content I'm still waiting for the Digimon World 3 continuation I hope all is well in your life buddy stay safe we're here for you much love

[@matthewdodd1262]

Yay! Been wanting this video for so long. Can we please get the Armor digivoluions next?

[@andresmarrero8666]

I think that both birdramon's origin and Biyomon's journey is why it digivolves naturally into Garudamon. Garudamon's wing blade can certainly be seen as a direct reference to birdramon dispite the shape being different, the legs also are similar but that could be due to the fact that they are bird legs, but being born from a firewall would certainly mean that Birdramon would be predisposed to eliminating viruses which closely aligns with Garudamon. If anything it hints at a possible relation between Hawkmon and Biyomon as none of Hawkmon and Aquilamon's abilities have anything to do with fire but Biyomon and Birdramon's abilities have everything to do with fire. Such a convergence is similar don't you think?

[@SpliffingBrit]

Great video keep up the great work

[@pokedigi1237]

The only trait of Birdramon you see in Garudamon is that Birdramon's feet become Garudamon's hands. But besides that I think the digivolution of Birdramon to Garudamon is pretty good if only cause the other Winged Guardian Ultimate's don't really fit Birdramon

[@deangaming9816]

Doing great i hope you keep up the videos

[@KeroKeroKuraido]

Aquilamon is my favorite champion level digimon, so I by default love Hawkmon. Can't wait for you to talk about my favorite digimon of all time, Allomon, when you talk about Hawkmon's armor forms.

[@maliklaidlaw8945]

I could see birdramon becoming flame lizamon only due to the theme of Digimon becoming more humanoid as they progress. From there I can see the evolution into Phoenixmon due to the skull similarities. Lizamon looks like a birdramon that lost his flight but the holy rejuvenation of mega evolution brings the order regaining its flight abilities. Only reason I can see it is Greymon and Garurumon lineages. They all have an ultimate form that compensates what the champion form lacked only to compromise both downfalls of champion and ultimate in mega

[@mubarakzahruddin]

I realized this before, there aren't many higher form bird Digimon. I think Crossmon fits Hawkmon line better. The design is more eagle like

[@allace7855]

your voice is so soothing

[@MrMattRib]

SkullBirdramon would be a dark digivolution for Birdramon imo, but yeah, Garudamon doesn't looks like Birdramon's evolution

[@cmaster584]

It is nice to see you again no questions just i honestly missed you im a fan of you as much as i am a fan coryxkenshin have a great day

[@rubenarieljd3563]

Well, i cant wait to see the next videos dear, about the Birdramon theme, it could be posible that we are missin an evil type digimon or ancient type, since as you said the dragon data should be there somewhere, it could be that if is a skull type digimon could reside in the Dark area and with a Mega lvl that we dont know either , but ill wiat for the speaculations video, for now xoxo all the way from Buenos Aires

[@namesdontmattergaming2756]

Is it possible for there to be a good Kimeramon that becomes a Millenniummon? Like maybe a Gazimon who bonds with a tamer, evolves into a deltamon through a massive boost in data in mid-digivolution?(that’s like an error right? Could explain Deltamon’s weird origins…Gazimon looks like a mammalian chimera). Then maybe through that bond, Millenniummon could be good? Or am I grasping at straws? 😞 Also could you make a video on NEO and Kernel?

[@smokeayyee2581]

That’s a good question, and I think that is possible? Just not probable. Cause wasn’t Millenniummon originally Ryo from tamer’s(and the wonderswan games)’s partner and it made him choose between it and Monodramon? So if it can yearn for a partner, maybe a good Millenniummon is possible? I’d love to see one as traveling through dimensions and time with a human tamer would be SICK

[@ElderRodrigo]

BurningGreymon (as a ultimate class hybrid evolution) and Zhuqiamon (i really don't know how to write this) as it's Mega fits better in Birdramon line

[@Cumrel]

YES

[@SephyCyndi]

Hey Nostalgia. I love your Digimon Videos! Do you think you could do a video on my favorite digivolution line, which is that of Cherubimon/Lopmon?

[@DigimonExplained]

I promise i will. Things in my life are finally getting to a good point so i will even be able to make more than two videos a week. I only need about a week or two to make sure i get to that point. Than ill make sure to also talk about cherubimon. Especially cherubimon!!

[@ktvx.94]

Digimon's creators tend to improvise a lot, especially at the beginning of the franchise, so these fine things and lore probably weren't taken into account for Birdramon. It's now impossible to make a "truer" canon evolution, but it would be cool to add one as another evolution branch

[@tomcurl8034]

I think hawkmon needs its own ultimate and mega

[@snin3202]

Also with armadimon. ...and vmon. Veedramon's line kinda disconnected with Xvmon (even tho same subspecies)

[@Kuzaki1530]

I would argue that it’s Birdramon who needs their own ultimate form.

[@pn2294]

That’s either Silphymon or Garudamon. Those are the official ones.

[@ruinascimento79]

Woooo new video!

[@Greyshadow511]

Sure gatomon gives cat qualities to silphymon but all of gatomons evolutions are human in appearance. This is the same for silphymon and vallyriemon. Silphymon gets both cat and human qualities from gatomon and then after evolving, appears more angel-shaped with a human body and wings.

[@samsondsouza6334]

Great video again! I really enjoy your videos 😇 can you please make a video on the line biyomon=>saberdramon=>vulturemon=> ornismon

[@bookmew1081]

I really like SkullBirdramon & feel like I have seen that Fanmade Digimon before Years Ago. Also I'm hoping for a video that talks about why recent Digimon Series haven't been dubbed yet. Please make such a video about it & why we still need Applimon & Adventure Reboot dubs as well as an English Dub for Ghost Stories. For some reason I get the feeling that Adult Swim Toonami could show the series that are considered too mature in America if that were a reason. I find it strange that despite Digimon's popularity these series aren't being English Dubbed, not even for a streaming service like Netflix.

[@andreasvestergard7565]

Yolei's Hawkmon's Ultimate is in canon Silphymon, even without Jogress Evolution with Kari's Gatomon.

[@andresmarrero8666]

Aquilamon's pokemon counterpart would be Braviary, an eagle pokemon that grows to the same size of Aquilamon (as is the case for all raptor pokemon such as Pidgeot and Staraptor, they are really big birds who are easily able to carry humans on their and sometimes it is easy to forget that they grow so big), is incredibly noble to the point of earning the title "hero of the skies", and has a heavy Native American motif as Braviary was designed to be the most American pokemon possible. Between the two I would say that Braviary is the more aggressive between the two in how it treats those who threaten its allies or causes trouble within its territory. There is even a recently revealed variant that existed in an undefined amount in the past that was even larger, has psychic powers, and loves to use sonic blasts. Those two would probably make a good comparison video. For those wondering about the size of these birds, you can get a good view of them in Lucario and the Mystery of Mew and Detective Pikachu movies.

[@SAWFD1413]

Garudamon is one letter away from being a Dramon, that & having 6 limbs and a flame forme attack (as you mentioned) may be why the two lines are linked.

[@badt2238]

u should do a large video of digimon timeliness/ servers

[@TheShadowInTheMask]

Garudamon reminds me quite a bit of Dynasmon, their body structure, attacks and even the headpieces but it's almost as if Dynasmon keeps Aquilamon's horns

[@Primordial_Radiance]

Please make a video about Gundramon

[@Digi_Danny]

Cool video

[@axels3188]

This was a good video also I’ll stick with Garudamon being the Ultimate form of Birdramon since I grow up with Digimon Adventures so it doesn’t matter if Birdramon is not dragon type digitalution despite it having Dramon In it’s name but not being part of the Dragons Roar family.

[@charizardgamer6151]

I hope we can continue the armor evolutions im hoping hawkmon is next

[@richarddelaney9593]

Thank you Nostalgia. Sorry for badgering. 😥

[@XynthoanXV2]

Over the years, getting back into the dogimon Fandom, I've begun to see Digimon a manifestation of their partner's spirit animal essentially. Some digivolve because of character development (ex. the crests) and a majority of their forms I say reflect the characters, such as Matt having a lone wolf attitude for a time or dragons always being assigned to the leader of the group. You can use this for a video idea of it sparks your interest.

[@digirally97]

Nice

[@Eatazombie44]

Mushmon whenever you can

[@seirramoon388]

Yknow been wanting durandamon since it and its counterpart are based on legendary swords and shields but ill let ya get to all the other people wanting their personal favorites first ^^

[@darthnecrosaberjacobrandal4247]

Can we do tapirmons evolution line please

[@zeusthefox1585]

I can't believe I never realised Garudamon look more like a Hawkmon evolution then a Byiomon

[@danielmondragon6773]

Please do a keramon line 🙏

[@javierrivera5834]

The thing about flamedramon and garudramon is that they're among the oldest digimons created, in real life not in lore, so the developers most likely forgot about them or made an oversight

[@bookmew1081]

Flamedramon is the Courage Armor of Veemon which has quite a few dramons related to it like the Veedramons, Paildramon, & Imperialdramon.

[@MiguelRodriguez-zr7of]

For Garudamon so far the best option could be Crossmon. For Birdramon the two only options that I found are Megadramon and Lavogaritamon.

[@marinesoler523]

I think that the 'dramon' in his name is most likely a title than a genetic reference. I mean imagine being a little landdigimon and suddenly a big flaming bird flies over you. He flies too high and you can only see his shape (don't forget, that his beak is not pointy!!) and the flames. So you would normaly think that this thing must be a dragon. And so everyone called it 'birddramon', the bird that looks like it is a descendand of the dragons. I know that digimon names aren't just given by others, but a lot of things discussed with you (N925) are adapted theories... Like the thunderbird... Vultures were migrating back to the native american locations in summer. Now imagine: those big, big birds come in summer where thunders and storm often happen due to the heat. Now Generation 1 tells generation 2 'oh, look, there is a big bird, bigger than the others, that comes and when it is here, that means that we are going to have more thunders' Then gen 2 to gen3: 'oh, listen, there is a big, giaaaant bird, that brings more thunder. And so on... So the thunderbird became an eagle-like creature with the time and he now brings thunder... I' ll stop my comment here 😅🤣 don't forget all my explaining Mythologie suggestions 😜

[@snupietherat6814]

I had to chuckle at the fact that pharaomon used to rule the world. I'm used to seeing pharaomon in digimon world 4 where they are just another annoying enemy (although a somewhat tough one). birdramon doesn't seem to be a dramon at all. my guess is that since digimon was in its infancy when birdramon was concieved, they simply chose the cooler sounding name. Birdmon sounds really uninspired for a main character partner. if you pick apart the name bird-ra-mon then you get bird (self explanatory) ra (egytion god with hawk/eagle head) mon (short for monster and found in all digimon names). this is probably highly inaccurate, but I wanted to point it out all the same. Skullbirdramon sounds awesome, but I still believe that Garudamon is the next "intended" digivolution from Soras Biyomon. like you said "only chosen digimon can digivolve into it" and I believe that since the digiegg was chosen as partner for a digidestined to help save the digital world, then it makes complete sense that Soras Birdramon was one of the few chosen ones able to attain the form of Garudamon. I know that you really love looking at the series from within itself, but it's hard for me not to see that this and that was done for mass appeal or marketing or simply because it was the early days of digimon and with no already built universe to pull from, they had to make up a lot of stuff along the way to get to where we are today and I kinda feel sorry for the team responsible for making sure everything fits into the digimon cannon when a new anime/game is in development. I was so sure that you'd have silphymon in this video since you already covered Gatomon, that most of my comment on the community page was about silphymon. please give it another read when you're doing the silphymon video

[@Magenta.000]

Hawks and Eagles I believe are closely Related and Real life, so it makes sense that they share an evolutionary line Edit: Also Birdramon is the Firewall Dragon of Digimon lol

[@CCCASMR]

Please do terriermon!

[@luiddmonteiro4912]

I believe that Birdramon is a hybrid digimon of both genes, which has the data of the Dramon family, but which has also similarities to birds data. I think living up to the idea that dinosaurs and the "supposed dragons" that existed now have their common descendants as birds... So, If we look at the first generation and how it was organized in the new card game, birds are associated with lizard and dragon types. So yes, I think Birdramon would normally evolve into some Dramon... After all, If we look closely, let's not fall for the idea that Garudamon is the only perfect form that most fits in Birdramon because of the anime. Okay, not a bad possibility, on the contrary, a case that fits because Birdramon is still a bird, and also a kind of Dramon too.😅

[@toxico8067]

Is Wormmon your favorite Digimon?

[@luiddmonteiro4912]

@@toxico8067 yes!

[@toxico8067]

@@luiddmonteiro4912 Really? Why is he your favorite?

[@luiddmonteiro4912]

@@toxico8067 I don't know exactly why. I "fell in love" with Wormmon the first time I saw it in a game called Battle Spirit by Gameboy Advanced. I like the bug digimon, but Wormmon was the one that sparkled to my eyes and became my favorite. He is adorable and has a nice background, been a worm with potential to be a super strong insec... and also Stingmon, his kind of main evolutionary link, it is such a a amazing digimon!

[@toxico8067]

@@luiddmonteiro4912 Wormmon is my all time favorite as well! what type of surname is Monteiro by the way?

[@lukebeakum1316]

Can Digimon reproduce? How can Hawkmon be a decendant of digimon that armor digivolved if digimon don't reproduce?

[@opressedwhitemale2007]

Hawkmon and Aquilamon are based on North American birds, which is why it digivolving into a North American mythical bird makes a lot of sense.

[@joepatrick8168]

GO BIRDS!

[@aaronoralan5314]

Hawkmon - Aquilamon - Silphymon/ Garudamon - Daemon

[@mikemiller8430]

I agree that Aquilamon should be a direct line to garudamon in but I still think valkyriemon maybe as a slight recolor should be the mega of the line. It can be treated like metal greymon and Rapidmon, but we have the light and white version as part of the addition of gotomons angelic lineage.

[@mikemiller8430]

As for birdramon it's always been a weird case especially since Gen 5 created the mailbirdramon. If you go something avian but still go with the fire is fine but then you can lay into the dragon and maybe go serpentine I guess a little bit more

[@Bake-kurijra]

Please do allomon trust me I’m taking my time

[@austingomez9630]

🤔📚📃📖📜📈📊🧐=🤯❤👍

[@canisblack]

So in relation to this video...did you know that there are three video games out there where you can get an Ultimate/Perfect level Phoenixmon?

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

Nostalgia, Nostalgia, Nostalgia. Love your work, also: How about dna evolutions with both it's normal champion form Aquillamon and it's digiegg form Halsemon? Their both champions and compatable digimons who armor digivolve such as X-Veemon and Stingmon can digivolve further. Aquillamon and Halsemon are both similair enough to Garudamon and Sylphymon to make sense for them to be the main components of the fusion, and then Phoenixmon or Crossmon would be their combined digilution dependant on which digimon is more dominant in the fusion similair to Paildramon and Dinobeemon having 2 fusion variants which can also digivolve. So for example Sylpymon should be the digilution which Halsemon is more dominant and Garudamon would be the fusion with Aquallamon being more dominant. Then Crossmon would digivolve from Sylphymon and Phoenixmon digivolves from Garudamon. Or even Harpymon could be a substitute or digilution of either Sylphymon or Halsemon and it would match the rubixcube which we call digimon evolution

[@alejandromilici7763]

Saberdramon is already a dark Birdramon, no need of Skullbirdramon.

[@andresmarrero8666]

Why is it called saberdramon anyway?

[@alejandromilici7763]

@@andresmarrero8666 allegedly because its talons are as sharp as sabers.

[@andresmarrero8666]

@@alejandromilici7763 that's surprisingly mundane and subtle for digimon. Usually their names tend to be very literal.

[@MarcusRalphson]

theyre the same level

[@bookmew1081]

Wouldn't SkullBirdramon be an evolution for Saberdramon as well as Birdramon?

[@a.a.6203]

A digimon doesn't have to evolve to something similar

[@aarifer3990]

Birdramon is "bird-ra mon" not "bir-dra mon" so no dragon reference

[@Cumrel]

He's just dragon bird. "Birdramon" is from both, "bird" and "dragon".

[@syaoranli973]

Ornismon would make sense as the Ultimate/Mega level of Hawkmon.

[@dracone4370]

I like to think that after they wrap up the 2020 Digimon Adventure reboot that we will get a reboot of Digimon Adventure 02, and in that rendering, we will get some exploration and explanation of each of the lines of the partner Digimon for that series. Now, I think Takeru/TK and Hikari/Kari will be dropped as chosen ones/Digidestined for that new series. In my honest opinion, having those 2 as main characters after their involvement in the original series was a bit of a mistake, in doing that they tied 02 too close to the original and it caused a lot of things they were doing with the series not to feel as impactful as they should have. I liked the idea in 02 of the prior kids of the original series showing up to help out and give advice, even having each of the new kids have their own opinions and relationships with the older Digidestined was a fun addition to things to play with dynamics, but because of how they structured things a lot of what was presented in 02 actually felt a little hollow, kids we were sure would get access to certain digi eggs/digitama because of their similarities to prior Digidestined felt like a bait and switch when that's when they got access to a completely different digi egg/digitama that didn't quite feel right for the character. But with a potential follow-up to the new Digimon Adventure, they can course-correct by having the new kids just have some sort of relation to the prior generation of Digidestined and have some newer characters fill in the slots that TK and Kari were in so that it really feels a whole new cast with a connection to the prior series, rather than a tacked on extention of the prior series, and it would all them to open up whole new sets of stories that are just vaguely reliant on knowledge of the prior series so they can do some more extensive worldbuilding that feels more like progression than a series of add-ons clumped together. Digimon Adventure 02's biggest problem was its overreliance on the prior series/need to lean on the original Digimon Adventure. Let's just hope things turn out better for us, especially since Pegasusmon showed up as an alternate evolution for Patamon in the 2020 Digimon Adventure reboot. I hope that things like that mean that when the reboot of Adventure 02 happens they will not have Takeru and Hikari as primary characters for the series, they already are filling that role quite well in the 2020 Digimon Adventure reboot. And some of those things I would like to see in the Adventure 02 reboot is an exploration of the history of the lines for the partner digimon and more building on their own individual evolution lines.

[@williampinkley1842]

I personally believe Aquilamons through line would go into hippogriffmon and griffmon

[@MarcusRalphson]

aquilamon can evolve to silphymon naturally without jogress dunno why you wouldn't just talk about it and valkryimon

[@Kimnilsson92]

No he can not digivolve to silphymon by himself the only time that happen is in online games where the developers are being lazy and throws in something random without doing research just like when they make paildramon and shakkumon ultimates for x-veemon and ankylomon but none of these digimon can be achived by a single digimon digivolving the natural way

[@MarcusRalphson]

@@Kimnilsson92 the wonderswan games set in the adventure universe allow everyone to evolve to ultimate on their own. also, everything is canon wheter you think its "lazy" or not.

[@Kimnilsson92]

@@MarcusRalphson Yes its canon that is a DNA digivolve as a fusion digimon. But what is not cannon is that Aquilamon can achive it on its own like you claim thats the opposite of canon. The only canon form this far shown connected to Aquilamon is Garudamon but like most digimon Aquilamon probobly have other flight connected digivolution like all other digimon but Silphymon isnt one of them as its specifically requires both the dna from Aquilamon and Gatomon for that form to be be possible exactly the same way Omnimon cant be formed without both Wargreymon and Metalgarurumon

[@blindfollower]

Cyberdramon > Justemon

[@Duh_D_Rexx]

I honestly feel that Garudamon works for Hawkmon perfectly because of the Native American Themes along with the Color Pallet. Also, I know in Tamers Renamon says that Digimon are neither male or female but I feel like all other Digimon have a been referenced with Gendered Pronouns. In both the Japanese & American Versions, Yokomon, Biyomon, & Birdramon are all voiced by Females whereas Garudamon is voiced by Males. Hawkmon & Aquilamon are also voiced by Males. While we’re at it. I felt very much that Miyako was given the wrong Digimental at first. Miyako shows more of Knowledge & Sincerity rather than Love & Sincerity. Iori displays more Love & Reliability. Idk…just food for thought I guess.

[@Magnamaster]

Nice