Explaining Live A Live

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22:14 “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil

[@anotherblowncartridge]

Oersted didn't "take care"

[@arhturcosta4066]

Oof... Then, he and the whole kingdom of Lucretia(Lucrece) are selfish primal drama queen idiots.​@@anotherblowncartridge

[@anotherblowncartridge]

@@arhturcosta4066 Well, while that's true... It's also hard to not react that way when it appears someone has murdered your head of government... especially when it's a King who they think has a divine bloodline.

[@arhturcosta4066]

@@anotherblowncartridge so, all and all it's the king's failings that let all this mess in the first place. Well... He and her daughter princess Alicia (Althea). And strawbow too. (Streighbough)

[@anotherblowncartridge]

@@arhturcosta4066 I'd definitely say it's the King mainly as he put his daughters marriage on the line for whoever won a tournament. But also Streighbough and the princess, as they weren't ever honest with the Oersted.

[@rpgclipdatabase]

Live A Live continues to be amazing, and underplayed and undervalued.

[@terrymoss2183]

Well that got surprisingly sad

[@DarkSpungus]

those definitely are some alive people

[@anotherblowncartridge]

yuppers

[@linamoss292]

This RPG needs more love!

[@jonathanj.3695]

This game is basically just "Cloud Atlas: The Video Game".

[@anotherblowncartridge]

It's definitely got the same time jumping storytelling of Cloud Atlas. Throw in some grids and some power rangers references and we basically have two identical pieces of media 🤣

[@jonathanj.3695]

@@anotherblowncartridge 🤣

[@linamoss292]

@@jonathanj.3695 Cloud Atlas book was better than the movie, in my opinion.

[@GenericSoda]

I got vibes of Tezuka's Phoenix

[@anotherblowncartridge]

​@@GenericSodaI gotta check that out!

[@kaspauf06]

I just finished the remaster and found your video, well done!

[@anotherblowncartridge]

@@kaspauf06 Thank you very much! It's one of my all time favourite JRPGs. A brilliant game. What did you think about it?

[@kaspauf06]

@@anotherblowncartridge I really did like the story and how you talk about how the game does not say much but allows for tough questions... I wish story wise this is what Octopath Traveler games were but those stories didn't really tie as well as this does with that final chapter. Did you play the Octopath games and how would you compare them to this?

[@anotherblowncartridge]

@@kaspauf06 I started Octopath 1 but never finished it. They have fantastic turn based combat and visual design, but I found the stories kind of lacking. I've heard Octopath 2 is better, so I'll eventually get around to that after I eventually finish 1. Just too many games in the backlog

[@Garebear_91]

needs a sequel..

[@anotherblowncartridge]

While I totally agree, I wonder what kind of sequel would it be? What time periods would you pick?

[@cutekyuu1]

@@anotherblowncartridge maybe different timelines in a different perspective

[@anotherblowncartridge]

@@cutekyuu1 I like the idea of a different timeline sequel, perhaps from different characters perspectives?

[@laurabaldesarra3538]

This opening 😆🔥

[@anotherblowncartridge]

It's a great way to introduce the game 😆

[@Lemon-Tea-ss8ms]

I loved your video!

[@anotherblowncartridge]

@@Lemon-Tea-ss8ms Ah thank you! That means a lot! ❤️

[@isleofredemption]

Oersted may have had blind spots due to his reputation as The Hero, and the Princess may have surrendered her own happiness for what was best for the kingdom. But I place the blame for all of what happened purely on Streibough. If he and Oersted were truly friends, he should have spoken to him directly and told him about his relationship between himself and Alethea. If Oersted just said 'tough' and beat him in the tournament anyway, then yes, he was a jerk and deserved to share the blame. But as things stand, we have no reason to believe he knew anything about that relationship, and that he wouldn't have let Streibough win and accepted a position as Captain of the Guard or something. More likely, Odio was already manipulating Streibough from behind the scenes, and Streibough in turn (in tandem with Odio's influence) gaslit Alethea into painting Oersted as the villain and Streibough as her true love when she in reality may not have wanted either one. If it was supposed to be a condemnation of the player and a subversion of their view of heroics, then that bit of handing us agency and pulling the rug out from under us is taken away the moment you try to deliberately lose to Streibough at the beginning and get a Game Over instead of an alternate ending. That suggests that Odio still does SOMEthing after Oersted dies/fails, so... ODIO is probably to blame more than Oersted's blindness, Alethea's misguided views or Streibough's selfishness.

[@anotherblowncartridge]

Do we know for sure that Odio existed before Oersted turned to malevolence? That Odio was manipulating Streibough?

[@isleofredemption]

@@anotherblowncartridge We know neither of those things. Perhaps deliberately, much is left ambiguous.

[@anotherblowncartridge]

@@isleofredemption Ambiguity is the name of the game when it comes to telling compelling narrative

[@dragonstouch1042]

@@anotherblowncartridgethere was a lord of dark Hasshe and Uranus fought before and at the very least Odo also existed first

[@anotherblowncartridge]

@@dragonstouch1042 That's a fantastic point that I totally forgot about! Good catch!

[@cookiesandsteam34]

Finished it today and boy, I rarely am depressed over a games ending (played through both sides today as well, incl. the actual good ending) but Oersteds storyline actually bummed me out when I finished it. Definitely going to replay it. This time leaving Mad Dog alive (now that I know I have a choice.).

[@anotherblowncartridge]

I agree. I have, since making this video, replayed it, saved Mad Dog, and witnessed the other ending. Glad you enjoyed it, even if it's sad.

[@SZakiabba]

Ok so, when I was playing the middle ages, I thought for sure Alethea loved Oersted when they were at that balcony when she leaned her head on his chest. And later when Oersted kills Streibough, I thought Althea grown to love Streibough due to some kind of stockholm syndrome or because her husband was late to come save her so she moved on or something. But after seeing this video, I am understanding that Althea and Streibough already had a relationship? then why was she so "in love" with Oersted at the balcony? just for show?

[@anotherblowncartridge]

Unfortunately, I think she was following her role as a princess who had been given to marriage, but only to further lure Oersted into a trap, and to kill the King and take the monarchy. In reality, it was likely that she was in on Streibough's intentions for a long time.

[@minakoarisato1506]

This game was amazing ❤

[@anotherblowncartridge]

@@minakoarisato1506 It's easily one of the best RPGs ever made.

[@AlexAlex-g2s]

i hate you skipped the part that had the princess soul talking to the heroes

[@anotherblowncartridge]

@@AlexAlex-g2s Wait what? What part are you talking about specifically? I don't remember this section?

[@AlexAlex-g2s]

@@anotherblowncartridge Yeah. its in the Trial of Heart part. You see the souls of everyone including Streibough and the princess. Streibough is still being a crybaby saying it's not his fault but the princess seems remorseful

[@anotherblowncartridge]

@AlexAlex-g2s Ah you're right. Totally should have included that in some capacity. My mistake.

[@tiagocosmos]

I always find it curious and/or weird when i hear about other people playing this game (I played the original years ago before the remake was announced), because I always play it chronologically from the prehistory chapter to the Distant future chapter. I can't think of playing it out of chronological order for some reason. lol Also as a huge fan of the SaGa series i consider it an honorary SaGa game (just how I think of it, not officially or anything). I love this game, I hope i can get the remake one day, I did play the demo and enjoy it, but I don't like the new arrangements of the soundtrack so much. The OST of this game is so iconic and seared into my memory that I didn't enjoy the new version as much, probably a big reason why I haven't gotten around to getting the remake on PC yet (and the price)

[@anotherblowncartridge]

Yeah for whatever reason I decided to play it out of chronological order lol But I still had a lot of fun regardless. I think the story connections translate well regardless of the order of stories played. I definitely need to play the SaGa games soon. I'm still working on other RPGs but SaGa is definitely on my list, especially knowing that this game is seen as an honorary entry. Thanks for your comment! Much appreciated!

[@Blue-dy2mr]

It goes on sale fairly often, I got my remake on steam for $25 give or take, and you can get it for less if you buy it bundled with every day life when the bundle goes on sale for $20 or so (it might of been $17 but I'm not sure since I missed that sale so I don't really remember, my point is that it gets pretty cheap)

[@anotherblowncartridge]

​@@Blue-dy2mrI paid for this game at full price at launch with no regrets, so 😺 f it's on sale, I can only recommend it more! Truly a deal to get a game as high quality as this for 25 bucks!

[@connorlarkinbass]

it would be hard pick a jrpg better than this! thanks for making this video!

[@anotherblowncartridge]

Thank you for the comment! This is definitely one of the best JRPGs I've ever played!

[@DarkButz]

The thing about the medieval tournament is that royal marriage in middle ages was almost always a political affair, it had nothing to do with love. But I'm really glad you caught that Oersted isn't really this crystal-clear silent protag we're so used to. There definitely is a bit of evil in him from the start, even if he himself doesn't realize it. Streibough does mention he begged him to throw the fight for Alethea's hand, but Oersted ignored it, probably with the "BuT iT wOuLdN't Be FaIR" mindset. And because of that tiny bit of evil, I come to believe that the Lord of Dark had his eyes set on Oersted ever since he came to Lucrece and Streibough was nothing but a pawn in that entire scheme. Remember Oersted's final words - "In every heart the seed of dark abides. The makings of a lord when watered well... With hate. Sweet hate. She springs eternal."

[@anotherblowncartridge]

@@DarkButz Well said. And yeah, even the characters we think cannot become corrupted (ourselves) have the capacity to fall to dark intentions. That's what's so clever about it, playing on the tropes of the typical fantasy protagonist, and then finding out not all is as it seems. Thanks for your awesome comment! Much appreciated!

[@PrinnyheroX]

Yeah hes so evil for participating in a tournament and then fighting for his kingdom. Give me a break.

[@anotherblowncartridge]

@@PrinnyheroX I don't think that's what I stated... What I suggested that a tournament for the hand of the princess was an overall unethical thing to put on.