Explaining the Damon Payne-Michigan snafu and calling for an end to the recruiting wars

[@joshcarr934]

I'm a nobody in this online world but I would love to thank you and all those guys for your reporting, just an uptight world we live in. GO BLUE!!!

[@seansmith8920]

Thank you for the update ...I've listened to you....the Michigan insider....and to ej Holland on the wolverine....and I think you've all done a good job ....recruiting is a very fluid thing and kids change their minds or mistakes can be made....I've learned through the years to not take it too seriously....I like to be informed like any fan but it's not life or death and certainly not worth getting so upset over...for lack of a better term.....shit happens.....go blue

[@DMcQueen-49037]

Well put. At the end of the day, we are Wolverines. There's more then enough fans for each site. Egos will not stop.

[@Darrenbrown68]

From〽️🏈NATION: C’mon guys, some of y’all are soundin like ohio chestnut fans & not realizin it. Take a breath, trust the team & appreciate them on Saturdays! ;Fenton, MI

[@chadg6874]

One thing Michigan fans should know very well by now is how to be patient. Sherrone is assembling the avengers, not rushing out a roster

[@rickcicotte9864]

Love this analogy brother! Go BLUE!!!

[@chadg6874]

@rickcicotte9864 thanks brother, Go Blue!

[@JoeMiskowski-ng7eb]

I follow multiple sights, I’d like to see the Sam and Holland beef end. I agree with you, the wars need to stop

[@DS-gz1qn]

Isiah I know you don't really read the comments but I love your reporting on everything Michigan football related. I think you are the best of the best. #GoBlue #Hail

[@isaiahhole]

Thank you! I’ve been reading them more now that they aren’t as filled with angry Buckeyes lol

[@jirikurto3859]

@@isaiahhole I am an angry tuna melt fan. I hope you don't have a problem with me.

[@ddavis1786]

Amen! Appreciate how carefully you study the details and strive for total accuracy - Thanks Isaiah!

[@jirikurto3859]

@@isaiahhole What is crazy is that my comment about being an angry tuna melt fan was removed. It was a harmless joke and some censor POS decided to flex their cowardice.

[@Darrenbrown68]

From〽️🏈NATION: C’mon guys, some of y’all are soundin like ohio chestnut fans & not realizin it. Take a breath, trust the team & appreciate them on Saturdays! ;Fenton, MI

[@ejecto_seato]

As long as EJ Holland is covering Michigan there is going to be a problem, and then there's Balas' sorted history of inaccurate reports(Harbaugh to Vikings, Moorehead replacing Gattis after 1 season, etc)

[@FlyrouteMedia]

I like #Michigan and everyone's hard efforts at covering content for those of us not born in Michigan, or anywhere near Michigan, but true blue Michigan fans nonetheless #GoBlue everyone #HappyHolidays

[@HeyGuy1414]

Love the sweatshirt! I picked up a T.

[@dpaul1148]

I’ll agree with the head coach on this one when he said nobody talk to that man period.

[@andyshiltz312]

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[@OneTime_01]

Where can we buy that rose bowl hat? I've been looking but can't find it.

[@Alexv208]

Looks like Branded Bill's custom hat with pvc patch. Some of the Mich coaches were wearing this hat during rose bowl activities last year might be exclusive.

[@steveericson]

I hope he signs with Michigan

[@scottlaux6934]

He'll be nothing but drama we don't need.

[@Deanbnaed]

@@scottlaux6934 I don't believe that, especially not simply because of how this situation played out. If he has done other things in the past i don't know about maybe, but this alone, no.

[@j-dog9800]

Thank you for the honest fact based situation. Simple misunderstanding, Go Blue!

[@mavrick6088]

I'm definitely not over paying for Payne that's for sure. My thing about the portal is only get dudes who will make an impact instantly if your planning on paying a nice chunk of change for a player they better be better than anyone you have on your roster if they are going to get paid more or equal. I just feel like the 99% of these kids are going to the portal to get paid and see who will over pay for them. I just hope Michigan stays smart and only pays correct worth

[@rudyt2304]

Totally understand brother, especially in this day and business how things can change on a dime. Yet, don’t you feel that several podcasters get the viewers they do because they give “inside baseball” news? Otherwise, is there really an audience for you guys if you don’t bring something that we otherwise can’t find? I’ll still listen and yes, I take it all with a grain of salt. But can’t blame people for being hard on you guys when you get it wrong.

[@srl7997]

This how Pac and Biggie got killed. 😂

[@SAGE0FTHEEAST]

The only brand we need to be loyal to is the mighty mighty M! GoBlue!

[@Zoom-47]

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[@mattbunts7513]

Go Blue! 2025 and beyond.

[@chadg6874]

Tell em, dad! 😁😅

[@stevenvargo2440]

Just let the process play out! Couldn't agree more. Maybe we should all just ignore these Podcaster's just trying to get their clicks, and wait till the 2025 Spring Roster comes out.

[@meloscott2327]

The problem comes when these want to be first report recruiting sites ruin a kids announcement for a buck or clicks

[@steveericson]

EJ and Sam I like them both

[@mikeworkman1759]

EJ almost ruined the entire Underwood flip and the Davis family wanted him no where near them. Even Sherrone Moore has recently told his staff and players to not talk to EJ about team info. EJ is NOT a Michigan fan or want Michigan to do well, he only has his own interests in mind and couldn't care less about how his actions impact the program. He was kicked off Texas and ND beat before covering Michigan.

[@jh1603]

I agree the “war” needs to end but on3 has been literal trash this year. Nobody can deny that. From EJ all the way up to Wiltfong it’s been L after L for a month and a half in regards to Michigan coverage

[@grh7399]

If he hasn't IMPRESSED, why pursue him. We need GOOD players, not mediocre.

[@scottlaux6934]

Rising 3 stars from FCS schools are better...and cheaper...and drama free. Dana, Goode, Stewert, Wallace....

[@grh7399]

@@scottlaux6934 Right on brother

[@Jleed989]

Well if he sent in an admission application, that’s part of the process and sounds positive. Making making a story where one doesn’t exist?

[@ichiganade2071]

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[@geraldmckinley5825]

People like to hate on Ej because he didn’t grow up a fan of the team

[@Hassler247]

He’s also been trying to pretend he has more insider information than he actually does and practically ruining recruitments doing so

[@bobcagle7081]

I tell Mr Damon Payne to move on Michigan doesn't need the players like this

[@Jaybone614]

Smh.. It did play a factor..

[@stevesalisbury3657]

Payne was 5 star out of high school, he hasnt lived up to that ranking and he had no interest in michigan out of high school, i hope michigan has not put all their eggs in his basket....

[@Jleed989]

Apparently that had something to do with Harbaugh

[@stevesalisbury3657]

@Jleed989 and why is that? A coach that has sent 10 more kids to nfl than ohio st in last 5 years. Only w teams with more georgia and bama. I don't think it was harbaugh though. He wanted to play for saban and didn't pan out for him and this paperwork thing seems like dudes hoping for most money he can get, but is he worth the money, can't say he is based on what he's done, but could get developed and be a stud but this one reason nil needs rules and caps

[@ronbeaubien]

So... basically no one, even those whose jobs it is to report accurate information like yourself, confirmed the rumor with the real source, and just went out and spread more rumors by publishing their stories or celebrating on social media?

[@petekaimaku5609]

just a scramble to see who can get it out first lol. kind of like tow truck operators. that’s what causes the errors

[@RailroadJourneys]

Who wants a 5th year backup who’s acting like this. And On3 can pound sand

[@Rockcity829]

On3 is trash

[@SparkkPlugg1512]

On3 is smelly trash!

[@pacinocatalini7330]

😂😂

[@YourAverageFan]

They’re all not great. All of this based on Michigans boards. Rivals have the best reporters in terms of info being told and accuracy. There board is the worst though. On3 reporters are bad but the board is pretty good. 247 is in the middle.

[@MichaelWilson-gi3gp]

Payne 🤔😬

[@davidgodfrey4129]

It is my belief that we should just let this kid go somewhere else and not bother with and there's too many other people in the world and he's starting to think too much of himself he's not proven in Alabama's death is no reason to put extra faith in them

[@dougfrench7815]

Of course you might start out by explaining who Damon Payne is and getting everyone on the same page. Too many podcasts are simply opinions without much actual journalism or facts about what is being discussed. A quick update on what your story is actually about only takes a few minutes. I was hoping to learn something but instead I've listened for 5 minutes and have no idea who your even talking about. Thanks

[@scottlaux6934]

5 stars can be trouble- Aubrey Solomon. I'll take a 3 star from a smaller school like Cam Goode. Plugs holes, contributes, zero drama.

[@Hassler247]

And I’ll take good character 4 and 5 stars over good character 3 stars. Want to depend on “good character” 3 stars there is a mid (at best) school down the road in East Lansing that shows how far that gets you

[@SparkkPlugg1512]

You need to sell some swag

[@Jaybone614]

Smh.. I'm done

[@Jaybone614]

Smh.. Flag planting?? Really?

[@tycesumerall8718]

They better leave sam webb alone haters

[@davidwright1728]

To much drama with this kid hope they don't sign him some of these players are just not a fit at Michigan

[@bishopjones9895]

He didn’t read the paper before he signed it ?? We don’t need him! He’s obviously not sharp 😂

[@MaizeBlueMichigan]

He may have been misinformed when signing it. Probably a miscommunication between him and whoever was walking him through the signing process.

[@bishopjones9895]

@ I’m just trolling 😂

[@Montuckz]

i watch all you mfrs. yall all got the same info. but im not up to the minute. relax we all on same team.

[@toewstokane9023]

Bro, you never actually explained WHAT HAPPENED. In fact I’m more confused than I was before I watched the first 8 minutes of this video. Am I missing something? That explanation was word salad Isaiah, come on dude. What was it??? Did he change his mind, was it something to do with admissions/transferable credits?

[@boschlosser10]

Michigan is one of the few schools that require you have 50% credits from them to graduate I believe so I bet that’s the issue they need to change that

[@toewstokane9023]

@ yeah I thought it was about credits. They finna make an exception for this dude or change that shit cause we gonna lose a yuge get.

[@youdontknow7190]

Just get it done. So Fing dumb

[@Jaybone614]

Smh.. Your true colors shining through

[@Jaybone614]

On3 is racist. You always defending them is kinda insa6!!! I been rocking with you forever.. I guess i gotta rethink that

[@Hassler247]

EJ Holland doing a horrible job with his bs insider shit

[@DMcQueen-49037]

Over 200 watching and less than 30 likes. Hot that like button folks.

[@DMcQueen-49037]

Correction over 300 now and less the 40 likes come on pls. Hit that like button.

[@toewstokane9023]

Hot that like button.

[@aaroncway]

Hot the button like it’s hot!

[@bradunderwood1012]

You got admit the media does suck. 80%. Mainstream media really sucks.

[@IssaFram]

The Xavier Worthy "issue" was our OC being Mel Tucker....

[@jasonpalmer7798]

Mel Tucker huh? I see you’ve been a fan since 2023…

[@PqperBoy]

@@jasonpalmer7798 I'm sure he's meaning contextually.

[@jasonpalmer7798]

@@PqperBoy no, he’s referring to former Michigan OC Josh Gattis, who allegedly slept with Xavier Worthy’s mom while he was recruiting him.

[@BreadKazynski]

@@jasonpalmer7798he pulled a Mel Tucker

[@calvinhobbes6118]

@@PqperBoy TBF, you could just say Josh Gattis. Hes just as bad. Gattis has been fired from Miami and Maryland since leaving after 2021. Talk about karma.

[@leonardcruz924]

House snow kings of the north

[@MeanJoe007]

I dont like Webb's bloviating and self-aggrandizing or EJs no energy non-fan takes. They both suck. Dont give crap about either, but i love the petty spat. Im all for it. It's not tiring. Nobody thinks its tiring. It's less boring than the fake cordial crap and bland talk about highschool kids and what they might do like anyone really knows or they can't just commit and then uncommit or transfer negating it all the crappy conversation and speculation anyway.

[@IIIIHOLYSMOKESIIII]

I like both sam and ej. It does get a little annoying with the back and forth. That being said...at least sam is funny when he's talking sh!t. Ej just comes across annoying. Either way...im assuming they both have a higher-up yeah? Why aren't they stepping in and saying just cover the team. Do ur job or someone else will represent us. Seems pretty simple

[@calvinhobbes6118]

Agree with much of what you said, however I find Sam to be exceedingly annoying and full of himself. EJ hits the ground and does the leg work.

[@IIIIHOLYSMOKESIIII]

Yeah they really compliment each other if we're being honest. They both cover michigan and that's all we want. I just find it hard to believe someone higher up isn't nipping this in the bud. Where are the adults? Haha

[@mikemorrow2142]

EJ is a little weasel

[@Yoyomanmanholla]

lol you people are NOT reporters.. attend high school games and write about high school kids’ activities.. do not equate this low bar to journalism. It’s workers in a cottage industry