Explaining the Principle of Least Action: Physics Mini Lesson

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Physics with Elliot

Physics with Elliot

2 жыл бұрын

The principle of least action is a different way of looking at physics that has applications to everything from Newtonian mechanics, to relativity, quantum mechanics, and beyond. Get the notes for free here: courses.physicswithelliot.com...
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This video is the first part of a series about the principle of least action, explaining the action for a particle in Newtonian mechanics. The second is about a particle in special relativity, the third about a particle in general relativity, and the fourth about the action for a string in string theory.
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In these intermediate-level physics lessons, I'll try to give you a self-contained introduction to some fascinating physics topics. If you're just getting started on your physics journey, you might not understand every single detail in every video---that's totally fine! What I'm really hoping is that you'll be inspired to go off and keep learning more on your own.
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@williamchurcher9645
@williamchurcher9645 2 жыл бұрын
As a mathematician, your content is some of the best I have ever seen. I love getting my teeth into the equations and proofs, and I love seeing stuff like this as well as your introduction to string theory video. Keep it up!
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much William!
@jonetyson
@jonetyson 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to see actual theorems with all the hypotheses stated, read Arnold's book "Mathematical Methods of classical mechanics." I think there is some truth that it's best to learn physics from mathematicians, and vice versa. :P
@ewwseww
@ewwseww Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with, as a mathematician!
@RogerBarraud
@RogerBarraud Жыл бұрын
@@ewwseww Sure, but how about As A Millionaire? ;-)
@user-ky5dy5hl4d
@user-ky5dy5hl4d 11 ай бұрын
@@PhysicswithElliot I am not a mathematician and I took calculus a long time ago. But I can relate to some issues in your video. I cannot understand starting at 6 minute mark. The tiny distance epsilon from minimum x is still a tiny amount away from x with no slope but at point x + epsilon has a slope. And then after ''higher order correction'' - which is something I never heard - of the right side of equation (by your words) f prime equals zero, the tiny x+epsilon vanishes. My physics teacher said that ''one cannot fool nature''. And by your explantion if the graph is a - let's say a trajectory of a partilcle with respect to (t), the distance of a particle with respect to time cannot vanish.
@douglasstrother6584
@douglasstrother6584 2 жыл бұрын
"The Principle of Least Action" ~ The Feynman Lectures, Vol. II, Ch. 19 Richard Feynman inserts a "WOW! That's cool!" lecture in the middle of his electromagnetism lectures. It starts with a personal account of how he was introduced to this idea. I came across this before getting formally introduced to Lagrangian Mechanics.
@LoreProkop
@LoreProkop 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! This and its companion videos were the clearest and most understandable explanation of the PoLA and world lines, plus special and general relativity that I have watched, and I watched a *lot*! The math was perfect and well chosen, easily followed, well done!
@rapp1584
@rapp1584 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always very well done. Thank you.
@eastofthegreenline3324
@eastofthegreenline3324 2 жыл бұрын
A nice treatment of this topic. Very much enjoyed it!
@hrperformance
@hrperformance Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for all the genius minds that have contributed to this wonderful subject and all the amazing teachers like this guy. I am so excited to get to grips with this and more!!
@danko6yg411
@danko6yg411 9 ай бұрын
Elliot. 🎉. Wonderful! You explain things so clearly. You have a clear mind. You get straight to the point. You are concise. You enunciate with precision. And some of the material I have been exposed to, and did not understand very well, I understand better now. More please …. Thanks so much!
@ssym2
@ssym2 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Elliot! Your videos are extremely helpful!
@jimwang3084
@jimwang3084 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video, they are very logical and simpler to understand, they have make me have another perspective to understand about the mechanics for my freshman year to learn deeper understanding in physics. Thank you!
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it Jim!
@jackr1734
@jackr1734 2 жыл бұрын
Great way to tackle this kind of topics, keep it up man
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jack!
@amritawasthi7030
@amritawasthi7030 2 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered to know things related to physics but what pulled me out to learn was that i was more interested in mathematics without applications aka pure maths. But to be really honest you're a saviour for me in that case. I love the way you explain things. Thank you so much for being there and a very happy new year from my side. More health to you.
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Amrit! Glad it helped!
@dukenukem9770
@dukenukem9770 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! I've never heard this account before. I can't wait for the relativistic generalizations!!!
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot 2 жыл бұрын
Come and get 'em! Special relativity kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYfOYoSEibx1rrM General relativity kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmO2dn5sf8-pabs
@dukenukem9770
@dukenukem9770 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhysicswithElliot Sweet!!! I’ll watch immediately!!!
@michaelshmilovich5551
@michaelshmilovich5551 8 ай бұрын
Dr. Elliot -- you're a mensch. Thank you for these very clear and visually intuitive videos. I'm not a physicist or a mathematician (my science background is mostly molecular biology). However, I'm trying to learn modern physics on the side and your vids coupled with Sean Carroll and Lenny Susskind's are VERY helpful.
@nillchen
@nillchen 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, I learned this during my time at Duke but had forgotten about it :) Now it's back, very well explained!
@Woodsford123
@Woodsford123 Ай бұрын
Brilliantly well explained. Thanks.
@techconbd7661
@techconbd7661 2 жыл бұрын
Dr, please make a whole lecture series on Classical Mechanics (all of Lagrangian, variational calculus , Hamiltonians , phase space and all of it) This is the rarest thing in the whole online universe. A request from Bangladesh 🖤🇧🇩
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot 2 жыл бұрын
I'm working on a course covering Lagrangian mechanics!
@aleksybalazinski
@aleksybalazinski 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is a gem
@wowtbcmagepvp
@wowtbcmagepvp 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully clean. I’ve seen this proof many times - and only this one connects all the dots effortlessly to why we are even doing this in the first place.
@augustisalman8027
@augustisalman8027 5 ай бұрын
Thank you is not enough. ❤ man to man. May he bless you in every good deed you do in every second of it along you life time.
@user-jf2uz3uk8j
@user-jf2uz3uk8j 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic lecture. subscribed. Thank you.
@austintumblerock3140
@austintumblerock3140 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video brother, you just gained a subscriber !
@ricardovencio
@ricardovencio 2 жыл бұрын
awesome class. Thank you.
@johnsolo123456
@johnsolo123456 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for making this channel!
@whilewecan
@whilewecan Жыл бұрын
Wonderful. I'm grateful.
@michaeledwardharris
@michaeledwardharris 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work!
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael!
@user-tj2ik2pk4m
@user-tj2ik2pk4m 3 ай бұрын
LOVE THIS!!!!! Thank you
@darkol93king34
@darkol93king34 2 жыл бұрын
very good content. I love physics :)
@jinks908
@jinks908 9 ай бұрын
I know you've gotten a million comments on your videos all saying the same thing, but I don't care, here's one more. I just got my BS in mathematics but I want to go to grad school for physics and so I am now self-studying physics to try and accomplish this. You are seriously one of the best teachers I have ever come across. Given that there are literally thousands of physics/math lectures and videos online, and that I have seen a ton of them over the years, this truly puts you in a category with the best of them. It's such a privilege to be able to access this kind of content outside of a college classroom, and it's an absolute miracle that people like you make it available for free. You've earned yourself a Patreon supporter and a lifetime subscriber, sir! I truly thank you for work ✊
@christopherjoneswa
@christopherjoneswa 3 ай бұрын
@jlinks908 I totally agree, there are sooo many teachers out there and (I appreciate all of their efforts!) so there exists an average effectiveness in concept delivery. Elliot's offerings really highlight the fact that most hover around the average. I didn't really notice too much until I saw a couple of his videos but he does such a good job of making these concepts accessible through the right balance of visual aids and strong delivery of clear information. @Elliot: really mean that, you've elevated the field for all! Good on you!
@motif123456
@motif123456 2 жыл бұрын
I like mathematical formalism of physics...this formalism is like a beautiful poetry indeed . Your channel is fascinating because you have explained advanced topics very lucidly.
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rajarshi!
@ekisvioleolivaradamos6701
@ekisvioleolivaradamos6701 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your video... Tnx I learned a lot...
@deepakjanardhanan7394
@deepakjanardhanan7394 2 жыл бұрын
Great. I hit a gold mine in you tube.
@sourabhjogalekar3842
@sourabhjogalekar3842 2 ай бұрын
path of least "action"- story of my life
@mohamedmouh3949
@mohamedmouh3949 11 ай бұрын
thank you so much very simple 🤩
@youerny
@youerny 2 жыл бұрын
I have been looking for this video(s) for-ever. Finally they found me! Thank you so much. Just two micro questions: 1) dt at the beginning of the integrand expression is peculiar of this branch of maths? 2) what software are you using to draw? Tried several computer+tablet combinations, but this looks better than most of them Thank you again!
@hOREP245
@hOREP245 2 жыл бұрын
with regards to "dt at the beginning of the integrand expression is peculiar of this branch of maths?". This is simply a style of integral notation, often used by physicists or just people who are taking integrals with respect to many variables. It can be nicer to work with, as you immediately see what variable is being used for the integration. I personally don't use it, but I know people who do.
@CarlosRodriguez-mx2xy
@CarlosRodriguez-mx2xy Жыл бұрын
Un modelo de elegancia matematica y virtuosismo didactico. Muchas gracias
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot Жыл бұрын
Gracias Carlos!
@utuberaj60
@utuberaj60 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely made-easy intro to Least Action in the "least complicated" way Mr. Elliot. I have only heard this term before vaguely. This makes me want to know if this "Principle of Least Action" is related to Fermat's "Principle of Least Time"- which expplains Snell's Laws of refraction elegantly. Could you please make a video on this also?
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rajagopal!
@brainandforce
@brainandforce 2 жыл бұрын
Fermat's principle was the basis for the principle of least action.
@tomkerruish2982
@tomkerruish2982 2 жыл бұрын
Furthermore, Huygens' principle leads to Feynman's path integral formulation of quantum mechanics.
@mikepenz
@mikepenz 5 ай бұрын
Great articulation of a complex topic. What is the app you use to build your presentations?
@urnext6874
@urnext6874 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel
@jonetyson
@jonetyson 2 жыл бұрын
The statement that the action is minimized (or maximized) is refuted by the counter-example of a statue sitting in a temple for a thousand years: Temporarily moving the statue up to the roof or down to the basement for a sufficiently long time (say another thousand years) before returning it to the pedestal will change the action by an arbitrarily large amount in either direction (as the potential energy change gets integrated for an arbitrarily long time), dwarfing the finite change in action that occurs while the statue-moving company is on site. Furthermore, it is worth mention that in classical mechanics, what one really uses is the fact that the Euler-Lagrange equations are unchanged by changes of variables. This can be proved simply using the chain rule for derivatives, without recourse to the calculus of variations and any accompanying unnecessary assumptions. (Such a proof isn't a derivation, but it can remove any doubts in the more mathematically-inclined students, who may simply loose all interest at the first sign of unstated or missing hypotheses or lack of mathematical rigor.)
@johnsnow7090
@johnsnow7090 5 ай бұрын
OMG, I finally understand ❤❤❤
@sergiolucas38
@sergiolucas38 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video :)
@SynaTek240
@SynaTek240 Ай бұрын
at 11:25 the change in L equation is missing a second dot above the first x
@snake4eva
@snake4eva 4 ай бұрын
@PhysicswithElliot What experimental evidence is there to suggest that the path integral formulation is correct? By this I mean, what evidence is there to "show" that the particle traverses all paths? Also could you include the experimental evidence in your future videos along with the name of the experiment or researcher who first did the experiment?
@Edufis-zw4hh
@Edufis-zw4hh 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, as far as know the action should be an extreme (maximum or minumum), it does not need to be necessarily a minimum, but in most of cases it is a minimum. At least in classical mechanics they claim for that. May I correct? Thank you!
@sachinrajpandey5242
@sachinrajpandey5242 2 жыл бұрын
Will you please also make video on linear algebra and group theory?
@smoorej
@smoorej 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic explanation. One question: towards the end when you say “assign a number to each possible path”, aren’t there technically an uncountable number of paths?
@simontaeter1866
@simontaeter1866 8 ай бұрын
Hey! Nice video thank you. I just dont get why you can make the epsilon^2 disappear like that?
@FB0102
@FB0102 11 күн бұрын
Can you explain why the standard Lagrangian is T-U? Intuitively, why that specific form (other than 'because it works')? Thanks
@nicholastzilinis3832
@nicholastzilinis3832 9 ай бұрын
what a great compliment to Landaus book
@randymartin5500
@randymartin5500 Жыл бұрын
While Leonard Susskind's 10 part series on Classical Mechanics was good, it was too long winded at nearly 2hrs per lecture! . Dr. Elliot's series is excellent which covers a wonderful understanding of the exact same equations and derivations in less than an hour!
@sergio3713
@sergio3713 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. 3 questions: Why would the particle follow the minimazing action S trajectory? What is the physical content of the minimum action S? What is the physical content of an any value action S? Thanks!
@tomkerruish2982
@tomkerruish2982 2 жыл бұрын
This is touched on at the end, starting at 13:50.
@dianedenonneville4259
@dianedenonneville4259 Жыл бұрын
Principle of least action: they finally made a physics theory that reflects my life
@davidcurco3844
@davidcurco3844 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video and your clear explanations. A doubt in the development of the equations: (7:47)... I understand that e squared vanishes, but why does edot squared vanish too? Even in your picture, the difference between the "red" and "blue" trajectories (e) changes sharply with time. So, edot squared vanishes as a consequence that e is small or as a consequence that a trajectory close to the "optimal" one is characterized both by e small AND edot small?
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot Жыл бұрын
Thanks David! You could instead write the variation as x(t) -> x(t) + c f(t) where c is a small parameter and f(t) is any function that vanishes at the endpoints. Then the requirement is that the change in the action under this transformation is zero to order c. When I wrote \epsilon(t) I've essentially absorbed this small parameter into the variation, and then counting powers of \epsilon or its derivatives is equivalent to counting powers of c.
@davidcurco3844
@davidcurco3844 Жыл бұрын
@@PhysicswithElliot Thanks for your clear and kind answer.
@samtux762
@samtux762 Жыл бұрын
Does the least action principle only relate to a trajectory, but not the speed along the path? It should only govern the path (if we compare a ball bouncing vertically and a yo-yo toy, they have the same path, but different speed along the path). Im I right?
@tombouie
@tombouie 2 жыл бұрын
Thk you for your clarity of explanation; I never could understand the classic laws of thermodynamics especially the ?entropy? ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamics#Laws_of_thermodynamics ). ?Does least-action a better description of thermodynamics than classical thermodynamics especially the dreaded ?entropy? .
@eamon_concannon
@eamon_concannon 2 жыл бұрын
7:37 You appear to be assuming that not only ε but also dε/dt is a very small number. Is this correct? We could use λε(t) instead of ε(t) where λ is a constant set small enough so that d(λ(ε(t))/dt (= λd(ε(t))/dt ) is very small for all t. Thanks a lot for the very well presented videos. I have subscribed.
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can say it like that
@user-hs3gq7vi7c
@user-hs3gq7vi7c Жыл бұрын
That's amazing... The reason why light goes straight is that all the path that light selected at the same time is cancelled out except the least action path. Only straight line survived....
@anthonyjulianelle6695
@anthonyjulianelle6695 2 жыл бұрын
Really good video but a quick question: At 5:30 in the def of s (in green) is the, "dt" in the wrong place?
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean!
@lineardielectric
@lineardielectric 2 жыл бұрын
The dt can go before the integrand. It's pretty standard in physics and makes multiple integral easier to interpret (at least it did for me)
@meow75714
@meow75714 Жыл бұрын
at 10:01, don't get why E(t1) and E(t2) should be zero? Can you please clarify more simply?
@wayneyadams
@wayneyadams Жыл бұрын
15:24 If we break apart the bracket on the left, we get called ket. Put together we have a braket (bracket). Who said Physicists don't have a sense of humor? 😀
@whatitmeans
@whatitmeans 2 жыл бұрын
What will happen for the classical Action in the following experiment: a particle that travels in a line and have a perfect ellastic collision with a wall (1D position vs time function).... it will travel back, so it first derivative will have a bounded "jump discontinuity", that will become a singularity in the second derivative...How will be the action principle work in this scenario?
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot 2 жыл бұрын
The kinetic energy doesn't change when the particle reflects off the wall, so it won't have any effect on the action
@jdarcy5714
@jdarcy5714 Жыл бұрын
Could you show the detail math of an actual problem?. The equations for y = -x^2 + 5 and the equation y = x^2-8 intersect. the graph shows one path longer than the other. Could you use these 2 equations and show the details. thank you for the video. I've been trying to understand this for a while. I'm almost 80 and would really appreciate the help.
@gandalfthefool2410
@gandalfthefool2410 Жыл бұрын
This might be a dump question, but how does an elementary particle know what minimum action is/ shortest path is? We can deduce it by taking the integral on all possible paths, but how does a particle know? Doesn’t that require a particle to travel along all possible paths to find out?
@ES-qe1nh
@ES-qe1nh Жыл бұрын
It doesn't "know". Physics (the possible ways a body or particle can behave) dictates/limits it will behave that way
@Harley492
@Harley492 6 ай бұрын
Just got into principles of least action. From my 10 year old Son asking me about ballistics. If the basics of Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity were derived from the same least action principle, why are they at odds with each other?
@jakubtvrdy4934
@jakubtvrdy4934 Жыл бұрын
Hello from Czech republic, I guess the time will run out until you notice with this amount of subs, but I have to try... I have exam in theoretical physics tomorrow, could you please explain to me why are higher powers of ε in taylor and generally also in other parts of the integral not relevant for the final result? Thank you very much for your time if you notice
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot Жыл бұрын
Hi Jakub-- It's very similar to finding the minimum of an ordinary function; you're looking for the point where the first derivative vanishes. In the Taylor series, f(x+dx) = f(x) + f'(x) dx + ..., the first derivative shows up in the linear term, so that's the one we want to pick out.
@jakubtvrdy4934
@jakubtvrdy4934 Жыл бұрын
@@PhysicswithElliot Thank you very much, God bless you.
@I-M-2.
@I-M-2. 2 жыл бұрын
Great content! So forces are just a glitch in human perspective?
@nicholasthesilly
@nicholasthesilly 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say that. It's not like an optical illusion. "Forces" is a legitimate way of thinking about human-scale phenomena. It just doesn't work well for the very large or very small.
@SixtysymbolsSymbols
@SixtysymbolsSymbols 2 ай бұрын
You are my idol bro 💔
@user-pb4jg2dh4w
@user-pb4jg2dh4w 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a uv lamp there ??
@DeepLyricist
@DeepLyricist 2 жыл бұрын
Why do forces have to be derivative of u? I'm trying to focus on myself.
@mrbank3453
@mrbank3453 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@wieslawpopielarski8974
@wieslawpopielarski8974 2 жыл бұрын
well U is potential energy so from school you can convert it into work which is W=∑F∆s=U (see integral instead of sum :) ). So to get F you simply compute derivative of ∂U/∂s = F
@meghadulshan7689
@meghadulshan7689 3 ай бұрын
10:00 can somebody plz explain me why epsilon t1 and epsilon t2 are zero?
@filipelqj
@filipelqj 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps YT comments is an unlikely place to look for an answer like this but, this explanation (which is great and similar to the same I had when I saw QM for the first time) implies that your functional (in this case your Lagrangian) is a function of only analytical functions. Which then excludes all other non-analytical functions solutions... Anyone can try to explain this to me?
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot 2 жыл бұрын
When the trajectory isn't smooth the action typically blows up. Singular trajectories are of interest in quantum mechanics though
@filipelqj
@filipelqj 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhysicswithElliot thanks for the answer but not being smooth is not the only case. The classic function e^1/x2 is for example infinitely differentiable (expect at 0 of course) and not analytical. I see this on DFT as well. A bunch of assumptions of Functionals being well behaved and an some "arbitrary" considerations (for the sake of simplicity) that exclude several classes of possible solutions. My Mathematics side is in pain while my engineering/Physicist side says if I don't make those considerations then I don't have any hope of answering those questions in the first place...
@ProjectileGrommet
@ProjectileGrommet Жыл бұрын
Vsauce didn’t describe this well (yet) but this video did
@jacobfrando2969
@jacobfrando2969 Жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me where the U’(x)ε comes from at 7:49?
@jayprajapati9496
@jayprajapati9496 Жыл бұрын
That's Taylor Series expansion of U(x+e) = U(x) +U'(x)e
@paulbizard3493
@paulbizard3493 6 ай бұрын
👍
@e_squared604
@e_squared604 Жыл бұрын
coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
@logicaldomain3272
@logicaldomain3272 Жыл бұрын
Isn't this basically first law of thermodynamics?
@paulsutton5896
@paulsutton5896 2 жыл бұрын
As always Lagrange pulls the Newtonian rabbit out of the hat. What I have never understood is why Lagrange ever suspected that his hat might contain such a rabbit.
@nicholasthesilly
@nicholasthesilly 2 жыл бұрын
Even before Newton, scholars already knew that light rays obeyed a similar principle. That is, they took the path with least travel time (Fermat did a lot of work on this.) Lagrange wanted to generalize this idea to all matter, and probably just tinkered until he found a way to do it.
@thrunsguinneabottle3066
@thrunsguinneabottle3066 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasthesilly I wish my own tinkering was so fruitful.
@kwccoin3115
@kwccoin3115 Жыл бұрын
Still crazy after all these years. Need this though: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integration_by_parts
@lorax121323
@lorax121323 Жыл бұрын
It's just the integral counterpart to the derivative product rule.
@brightibezim1486
@brightibezim1486 9 ай бұрын
Waoooo!
@a.nelprober4971
@a.nelprober4971 Жыл бұрын
7:40 why??
@meghadulshan7689
@meghadulshan7689 3 ай бұрын
can somebody explain me 9:08
@drbonesshow1
@drbonesshow1 2 жыл бұрын
The Principle of Most Action is moshing your way around a nightclub or stadium.
@onlyphysics143
@onlyphysics143 Жыл бұрын
nice lecture but i cant get the real essence of least action. still i don't understand
@ordell3917
@ordell3917 Жыл бұрын
You looks like elliot
@InderjitSingh-ee8bs
@InderjitSingh-ee8bs 5 ай бұрын
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@huynguyenquang7435
@huynguyenquang7435 3 ай бұрын
10:22 0 or 1? make up your mind.
@nitind9786
@nitind9786 3 ай бұрын
Even i don't understand why should that be 0. ?? 1 makes sense .. as then the integral over epsilon would vanish regardless of the value of start and end 't'.
@clieding
@clieding 2 жыл бұрын
Your wonderfully clear and admirable explanations are very enlightening but the speed of delivery is dizzying; your brain is on fire! I just try to hold on and enjoy the ride.
@dennisbernstein6831
@dennisbernstein6831 2 жыл бұрын
"Minimize is too strong of a word"------In fact, the claim of least action is actually wrong. Why propagate misconceptions? Simplicity makes a nice story, but a miss is a miss, and "minimization" is known to be wrong. The best that can be claimed is stationarity.
@dumbphysicist5142
@dumbphysicist5142 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why
@paulboro5278
@paulboro5278 2 жыл бұрын
It's a law of nature.
@paulboro5278
@paulboro5278 2 жыл бұрын
There is no Why.
@dumbphysicist5142
@dumbphysicist5142 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulboro5278 why nature has this law?
@dumbphysicist5142
@dumbphysicist5142 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulboro5278 why there is no why?
@EventHorizon618
@EventHorizon618 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. At kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYbOaqxoaKuDfs0 you change from K+U to K-U as you introduce the Lagrangian. Please can you tell us why it is important for us now to subtract the potential.
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot 2 жыл бұрын
K+U is the total energy. You can also derive the equations of motion from there, which leads to the Hamiltonian formulation of mechanics as opposed to the Lagrangian formulation. Check out the earlier video I made comparing the different approaches if you haven't seen it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnWrf3qqqNKgfpo
@ihbarddx
@ihbarddx 11 ай бұрын
Let me tell you about a fundamental principle of pedagogy: The Principle of Fewest Expository Anachronisms. One result that falls out of this is that you don’t base an entire presentation on a concept for which the audience has no objective or intuitive understanding. Where did the Lagrangian and the Principle of Least Action come from? I’m quite certain that neither Lagrange nor Euler consulted Feynman’s Ph.D. thesis, thank you very much. After that, if you want to present a useful example, why don’t you address one where mass varies. (e.g.; a rocket)
@kierkegaard54
@kierkegaard54 4 ай бұрын
10:22 I thought 0! was 1??? JK
@nitind9786
@nitind9786 3 ай бұрын
Even i don;t understand why should that be 0. ?? 1 makes sense .. as then the integral over epsilon would vanish regardless of the value of start and end 't'.
@rustycobalt5072
@rustycobalt5072 2 жыл бұрын
You may think what you know what any of this means, you do not You are entirely wrong on the principles One day I hope to be able to show you exactly why
@qualquan
@qualquan 10 ай бұрын
Clumsy explainer. At the outset keeps switching the independent variable between t and x.
@gaHuJIa_Macmep
@gaHuJIa_Macmep 5 ай бұрын
You don't explain why Lagrangian is defined as T-U, and not something else. This is the true understanding of what's going on here...
@FB0102
@FB0102 11 күн бұрын
How would you answer that question?
@gaHuJIa_Macmep
@gaHuJIa_Macmep 11 күн бұрын
@@FB0102 "the margins of this book are too narrow to write it down here..."
@FB0102
@FB0102 10 күн бұрын
@@gaHuJIa_Macmep Oh, it fits. Its quite straightforward :)
@milobem4458
@milobem4458 2 жыл бұрын
It's all nice, but we don't ask "how the ball gets from here to there". We ask "where will the ball go if i kick it this hard". Especially if the ball is orbiting a star so it doesn't have a destination. All explanations of Action assume we already know the end result and only want to know how we get there...
@zray2937
@zray2937 2 жыл бұрын
It does so happen that, in absence of stuff like friction, the dynamical problem with initial conditions (Newton) coincides with the dynamical problem stated as a boundary value problem (action principle).
@oldnordy2665
@oldnordy2665 2 жыл бұрын
Good effort, but as far as levels of understanding of Math and Physics are concerned, this is all over the place. Neither an an introductory Physics nor Algebra / beginning of Calculus student would understand any of this. What good does this do if you preach to 3rd or 4th year university students?
@PhysicswithElliot
@PhysicswithElliot 2 жыл бұрын
This one definitely requires calculus background!
@haloelite205
@haloelite205 2 жыл бұрын
This video served as a good refresher on these physical principles. While I’m not going to grad school quite yet, I’ll definitely be back on this channel to brush up on my physics concepts. Even then, watching him slowly go through the material is much more digestible than being presented with a wall of text as in a textbook. It makes it easier for the brain to pick stuff out. As long as students have prerequisite knowledge in calculus, they should be able to absorb what’s going on, even if they don’t understand why quite yet.
@alphalunamare
@alphalunamare 2 жыл бұрын
I think that that is a rather harsh assessment. Usually kids are taught by rote on how to do things with little explanation for why. The same is true of the structure of graduate courses where subject matter is aggregated for no apparent reason except that it made sense to the course designers. I find that these presentations provide context. If you have the context then you can begin to understand the 'for why'. A lot of graduates leave college without any real understanding of what they have just been through. A minute longer on Euler-Lagrange would have been welcomed but apart from that I think it quite fair to expect any 19 year old to understand the content.
@amirpasagic162
@amirpasagic162 2 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree, in my opinion its one of the rare video lectures online that are concise, follow a very structured flow from initial assumptions to conclusions with very few (much needed) digressions that tend to explain questions I would be asking myself in that point of the video actually. Also mathematics required is quite basic for physics curriculum. I have a MSc in electrical engineering and am quite capable of following this derivation of Lagrangian (had to pause once or twice), which to be honest, I cant say for most of them. (and I watched A LOT of them, including entire L. Suskinds lesson series) As every other video series, it has its intended audience, if your level of mathematics is not sufficient to understand it, you should revisit all the prerequisite knowledge and then come back to tackle this.
@AbarajithanGnaneswaran
@AbarajithanGnaneswaran 2 жыл бұрын
There is beauty in discovering the connections. I'm an engineer, fascinated by physics. I haven't learnt Largrangian / advanced QM rigorously. This video makes sense to me and it's really fascinating to see them coming together. His target audience aren't people looking to learn this from scratch. He's showing the beautiful parts which most aren't aware of.
@wayneyadams
@wayneyadams Жыл бұрын
The principle of least action just proves that nature is as lazy as we are, processes are going to happen in a way that takes the least action possible. In other words, why walk to the store when I can drive? 🤣 When I don't do the projects on my wife's "honey do" list, I explain to her that the principle of least action forces me to do nothing since that is the least action, in other words it's not my fault it is a law of the universe. By the way, it does not work, I still have to do the projects on the list, which proves that Physics does not apply in married life. LOL
@lorendisney5068
@lorendisney5068 Жыл бұрын
This idea of all paths being followed sounds a lot like the "multiverse". Perhaps cosmologists should step away from the telescope for a bit and look in the microscope instead.
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