Explaining WW2 in the Pacific

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History102

History102

Ай бұрын

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@alexanderandro1895
@alexanderandro1895 Ай бұрын
I'm happy to see Rudyard enjoying a cigar, but there was something about opening the video with it that made me think of Zuck's "sweet baby rays"
@rogerdowns1656
@rogerdowns1656 Ай бұрын
That cigar canoeing so hard bro
@Trash_Boat007
@Trash_Boat007 Ай бұрын
I was about to say 😭 it’s boating so hard I just want to pull it away and fix it for him
@bm1588
@bm1588 Ай бұрын
Dude, it’s distracting me so much. I can’t even even listen to what he’s saying.
@prestonbane4176
@prestonbane4176 Ай бұрын
@@Trash_Boat007 lol make it look like the exhaust pipe from the batmobile 😈
@pgbrytbackup8646
@pgbrytbackup8646 Ай бұрын
Why is everyone suddenly a cigar expert
@bitcoinzoomer9994
@bitcoinzoomer9994 Ай бұрын
Shoutout to Rudy for being too dorky to smoke a cigar properly
@resurrectingexcellence
@resurrectingexcellence Ай бұрын
😂
@RealMajora
@RealMajora Ай бұрын
Rudyard canoed the fuck out of that cigar
@jasonpalacios1363
@jasonpalacios1363 Ай бұрын
I know I mean did he use a blowtorch to light that cigar?
@Euph0rical
@Euph0rical Ай бұрын
I really wish Rudyard’s cohost would ask interesting questions, build up the conversation with tidbits that he may know but it wasn’t mentioned, or just flow better with Rudyard’s train of thought. I would rather see either just Rudyard doing this solo or have someone who does “color commentary”, like mentioning interesting facts based on the current topic. As an example, at 2:27 ask something like “why did Japan want to capture China to create a new empire similar to China’s?” As someone who absolutely loves to continue learning about history and who really the topics of @Whatifalthist videos, with how he uses multiple disciplines to present an amazing breakdown of historical events. Maybe get a 3rd host to be the “color commentator”, like how the UFC has Rogan to expand on the events taking place. He doesn’t call the fights, but whenever possible, interjects his thoughts/opinions. That would be a dream job in my opinion 😊
@Smile4theKillCam456
@Smile4theKillCam456 Ай бұрын
It’s just a WIAH video with occasional interjections. Rudyard shouldn’t have to pause to ask questions, the interviewer should be asking him- leading into other points. It’s lazy, and comes off like the interviewer doesn’t care. Like check 34:00 when the interviewer only asks about the US part of the Pacific War. It’s like, that’s the only thing he cares or knows about? I’m not a fan of WIAH, personally. I listen to this because picking it apart makes me a better historian. If I’m saying it comes across as lazy and forced, I can’t imagine that people who agree with Rudyard think it is either.
@Taiyama2
@Taiyama2 Ай бұрын
Absolutely agree. The other guy really needs to step up his game.
@eloybox
@eloybox Ай бұрын
Yeah, the co-host should at least keep track of where we are chronologically. Ask questions that inform the listener what year we are on by now etc "So it's early 1942 and the US just entered the war, why did the Japanese....?" I've listened to a few episodes and he provides next to nothing.
@JoelEynonYT
@JoelEynonYT Ай бұрын
This podcast is so good bro. Keep it up man!
@hannibal-rb3go
@hannibal-rb3go Ай бұрын
Shout out to general Wainwright the highest ranking American captured, who was the leader when they surrendered in the Philippines. Dude survived the death march and survived the pow camps till the end of the war. Then the dude actually continued his service till he was forced to retire.
@douglasstewart4790
@douglasstewart4790 Ай бұрын
He and another commanding officer who went through the same POW treatment were onboard the ship when the Japanese formally signed the surrender.
@Jalu3
@Jalu3 Ай бұрын
​@@douglasstewart4790the British Commanding General during the surrender of Singapore. Lieutenant General Arthur Percival.
@Maytrx
@Maytrx Ай бұрын
"What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Clone Wars, the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. Not a word." - Operation: Knightfall "Knightfall" - Star Wars Battlefront II (2005)
@tzar9395
@tzar9395 Ай бұрын
“Fire on flight deck R”
@tssc1095
@tssc1095 Ай бұрын
This stuff is better than the actual whatifalthist content
@Euph0rical
@Euph0rical Ай бұрын
15:16 Oh that was my question!! Amazing to see them looking at our comments and using them in the show!!
@blankboy2270
@blankboy2270 Ай бұрын
I thought this was the japanese civilization video for a second
@nathanielzarny1176
@nathanielzarny1176 Ай бұрын
1 more week
@terminallyonline02
@terminallyonline02 Ай бұрын
A few mistakes I caught: Pearl Harbor was the 7th of December (8th in Japanese time), not the 11th. Midway was in June 1942, not the beginning. The beginning of 1942 was when Japan was getting really good results against the U.S. The Solomon Islands campaign was after Midway, not before. The part about Kamikaze was part right, part wrong. Very few experienced pilots flew Kamikaze, most had died in the Solomon Islands fighting. The bulk of Kamikaze pilots were drafted college students, so the point about throwing away their best and brightest certainly stands.
@Asdf-wf6en
@Asdf-wf6en Ай бұрын
I like this series, but you need to get a better recording setup. It is so annoying hearing your neighbors driving around. I think last episode Eric just got up and walked around his house with his laptop in the middle of the podcast.
@christophersnowden4117
@christophersnowden4117 Ай бұрын
Bro, we need to get you some better cigars. Your content demands it
@dusanstanisic-im4go
@dusanstanisic-im4go Ай бұрын
What do you mean? does cigar have to look good?
@notallowedtobehonest2539
@notallowedtobehonest2539 Ай бұрын
@@dusanstanisic-im4goit should at least taste good
@jasonpalacios1363
@jasonpalacios1363 Ай бұрын
Yeah what happened to his cigar?
@julian9898
@julian9898 Ай бұрын
@@notallowedtobehonest2539 lol i can taste how terrible that cigar must be from across the internet 😂
@gertofner8711
@gertofner8711 Ай бұрын
"Everybody was a good guy in WW1." -laughs in Turkish
@jasonpalacios1363
@jasonpalacios1363 Ай бұрын
The truth is that WWI began out of pure ego and WWII began out of pure evil.
@Bamawagoner
@Bamawagoner Ай бұрын
⁠@@jasonpalacios1363WWII was ego too. The bruised egos of the Japanese, Germans, and Italians lead to the rise of fascist systems.
@jasonpalacios1363
@jasonpalacios1363 Ай бұрын
@@Bamawagoner Not really because WWII had the Holocaust and the brutal attacks the IJA had done to Korea, China and SE Asia in which you don't see that in WWI. So that's why I stated that WWI began out pure ego and WWII began out of pure evil.
@matthiuskoenig3378
@matthiuskoenig3378 Ай бұрын
It's more complicated than bruised ego. Allied hypocracy was big part of it.
@KingofScrapMetal
@KingofScrapMetal Ай бұрын
Laughs in Ottoman*
@AndreiCostache-kh9mv
@AndreiCostache-kh9mv Ай бұрын
Rudyard should really start looksmaxing. Bro looks like the Colosal Titan💀
@resurrectingexcellence
@resurrectingexcellence Ай бұрын
Do you mean going to the gym? 😂
@AndreiCostache-kh9mv
@AndreiCostache-kh9mv Ай бұрын
@@resurrectingexcellence Yeah, and probably shave that chest hair
@idontknowhatoput8663
@idontknowhatoput8663 20 күн бұрын
I was thinking more so beast titan but this comment was still pretty funny
@hardrada3534
@hardrada3534 Ай бұрын
Need to put History 102 in the Thumbnail, keep missing them
@constantinexipalaeologus8312
@constantinexipalaeologus8312 Ай бұрын
Love these thanks for the upload.
@ajax3017
@ajax3017 Ай бұрын
Another great video, Rudyard. I noticed Dave isnt present much in the video, which I knew you would address in editing. The cigar really threw me off, but it's funny that you're doing this on what looks like a porch. I don't want to assume, but it looks like that's your first cigar, or at least, you certainly light it like a beginner. You scorched it and it canoed. I'd recommend not heating it up so fast. I wish I had more to say with the rest of your video, other than "Yes", "I agree", or "That's interesting". Sorry for being a bad student. EVERYONE should have a friend like Rudyard!
@trivialgravitas9581
@trivialgravitas9581 Ай бұрын
You need a new host.
@henrystokes1987
@henrystokes1987 Ай бұрын
Thats fascinating
@turnerjmulletboy
@turnerjmulletboy Ай бұрын
So glad no one ever filmed me smoking my first cigar
@Preciouspink
@Preciouspink Ай бұрын
Fix the end. flame the leafy portion on the lit end
@TheMoopMonster
@TheMoopMonster Ай бұрын
Natural tobacco is the way to go if you have to do it, but you gotta do it right.
@poorpotato7623
@poorpotato7623 Ай бұрын
Nation of shopkeepers was referred to the British not the Americans
@Johnnyynf
@Johnnyynf Ай бұрын
I would like to elaborate on the time before warlord, RoC and the nationalist You have mentioned multiple times that after the revolution china went straight into warlordism. Practically yes, but that ignores the attempt of making the republic in first decade of RoC It was planed and set up to be a libral democracy, but ultimately failed. For those interested, there's one person that related to a lot of early RoC history, Yuan Shikai(袁世凱), for what I know he is one of the reason why the revolution worked, the set up of the republic and the eventual warlordism. As for why the ideology of the nationalist is inconsistent for what I know one must take into consideration that the party (KMT) was the direct lineage of the revolutionary, which the most well known is Sun Yatsen, but the nature of the revolutionary movement for what I know is more to the anti qing empire than anything else. It's interesting to see that in Taiwanese textbook, RoC(1912-1927) and RoC(1927-1937 or 1949) after Chiang united the warlord is almost considered two separate entity.
@loganstrait7503
@loganstrait7503 Ай бұрын
I still don't understand how this channel differs from WIAH in any substantive way
@moonlitee
@moonlitee Ай бұрын
?? It's clearly a lot more personal and we get to see more of Rudyard
@MadShenans
@MadShenans Ай бұрын
No text walls
@Smile4theKillCam456
@Smile4theKillCam456 Ай бұрын
It isn’t. It’s WIAH with a random uninterested pedestrian trying to go about his day unmolested lmao.
@Twisty112289
@Twisty112289 Ай бұрын
Production quality is lower so they're easier to make. Adds volume to his brand imo
@careyfreeman5056
@careyfreeman5056 Ай бұрын
It's the short version. WIAH, at least in the beginning, was tailored to people who are already interested in and knowledgeable about history. This is like Intro to Historical Topics for Tech Bros.
@theviolator818
@theviolator818 Ай бұрын
Very honorabru
@petercarioscia9189
@petercarioscia9189 Ай бұрын
Underrated comment
@igotfriendsinlowplaces2971
@igotfriendsinlowplaces2971 Ай бұрын
Shane Gillis?
@theviolator818
@theviolator818 Ай бұрын
@@igotfriendsinlowplaces2971 fellow dawg?
@yanx4797
@yanx4797 Ай бұрын
Nice background change :D!
@Glawackus-1600
@Glawackus-1600 Ай бұрын
39:45. That reminds me of an old quote from Isoroku Yamamoto in the film, Tora! Tora! Tora! It goes "I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with terrible resolve."
@Oldkingcole1125
@Oldkingcole1125 Ай бұрын
Please have Curtis Yarvin on the show. I can’t recommend him enough. If I have to, I will spam the comments section with requests for the Curtis Yarvin interview
@damianmaddox4334
@damianmaddox4334 Ай бұрын
Rudyard rocks the Slavic necklace like a boss.
@henrystokes1987
@henrystokes1987 Ай бұрын
-When you spill your spaghetti so hard, you forget how to smoke
@joeb2955
@joeb2955 Ай бұрын
People keep saying this about Poland with Churchill , very intriguing
@ZontarDow
@ZontarDow Ай бұрын
China got more material aid from Germany then Japan got so a situation where China was Axis and Japan somehow remained aligned with the British wouldn't be too hard to write.
@DarthHoosier3038
@DarthHoosier3038 Ай бұрын
Dan Carlin’s podcast Supernova in the East on this topic is legendary. It’s free here on KZbin which we’re incredibly lucky for, easily worth a buck.
@MatthewNolan101
@MatthewNolan101 12 күн бұрын
"The pregnancy is doing ok?" "Yeah" as he lights a cigar. I don't known the context, but damnit Rudy keep being you.
@obiwankenobi6871
@obiwankenobi6871 Ай бұрын
“THE MEN ARE FATIGUED MY LORD!! AND SOME MUST REST!!”
@ignatiusj.reilly2124
@ignatiusj.reilly2124 Ай бұрын
Kotkin says there was no lucky break for the Russians; Stalin simply decided he rather has Japan take Siberia than to lose Moscow
@kamikazetsunami9137
@kamikazetsunami9137 Ай бұрын
Been on a WIAH marathon all day!
@Lichcrafter
@Lichcrafter Ай бұрын
Good old Rudyard "Of course I like human rights" Lynch
@CommissionerLofi
@CommissionerLofi 2 күн бұрын
Better than the main channel
@bukitvistacareers
@bukitvistacareers Ай бұрын
yamamoto went to harvard, not ucla
@nPcDrone
@nPcDrone Ай бұрын
Real life example of fuxk around and find out. Don't touch the boats!
@igotfriendsinlowplaces2971
@igotfriendsinlowplaces2971 Ай бұрын
FDR let it happen and instigated the war on both fronts. He also helped orchestrate Weimar when he was a banker on Wall Street
@mendelkorf639
@mendelkorf639 Ай бұрын
​@igotfriendsinlowplaces2971 that has got to be the most stupid take the japanese aren't absolved from pearl harbor or the bataan death march even if fdr knew they still planned it and carried it out they deserve everything they got in the war
@mendelkorf639
@mendelkorf639 Ай бұрын
​@@igotfriendsinlowplaces2971that has got to be the most stupid take even in the chance fdr knew japan would still be completly responsible for the planning and carrying out pearl harbor and the bataan march
@mendelkorf639
@mendelkorf639 Ай бұрын
Even if fdr knew the japanese would still be completely responsible for planning and then carrying out pearl harbor and the other things they did to american citizens
@igotfriendsinlowplaces2971
@igotfriendsinlowplaces2971 Ай бұрын
@@mendelkorf639 you’re stupid for not knowing anything about the topic. Cope
@FrostyThundertrod
@FrostyThundertrod Ай бұрын
How the hell do say peal harbor happened on December 11th? This episode is sub par you where jumping around to much misdated several events completely disregarded the fact that battle ship where still very much decisive for the entire war
@Smile4theKillCam456
@Smile4theKillCam456 Ай бұрын
He also said the pilots flew from Hokkaido. They didn’t. Maybe people will start to realize that Rudyard doesn’t really know what he’s talking about, and just makes gross generalizations. He isn’t a trained historian, and twists facts to fit his world view. He is definitely a bright fucking kid, but misled. As much as I once loathed college, it’s a great place to meet people who know what they’re talking about and have the credentials to back it up.
@emilioperez6888
@emilioperez6888 Ай бұрын
Nor really, maybe in WW1 and before did. But the sinking of the Yamato by torpedoes shot from planes made sure to everyone to know that battleships were an outdated concept. Even more after the creation of Cruise missiles.
@yanx4797
@yanx4797 Ай бұрын
23:55 Chiang was captured by the warlord from the North-east (you know where), Zhang Xueliang and Yang hucheng. They were by no means communists but they did want to propose the peace deal.
@obiwankenobi6871
@obiwankenobi6871 Ай бұрын
“SHAMEFURRRR DISPLAYYYYY!!”
@geesixnine
@geesixnine Ай бұрын
Poor ROC was already fighting the Communists in 1929 before WW2 started.
@JTMondal
@JTMondal Ай бұрын
Im from Bangladesh originally and I have grandparents who loved through the war. The British sprayed herbacide on our land to stop corp growth.
@KanJonathan
@KanJonathan Ай бұрын
Yamamoto Isoroku studied at Harvard, not UCLA, and hardly even to did whatever he want at IJN (perhaps except briefly between Pearl Harbor and Midway).
@viviennekomatsu
@viviennekomatsu Ай бұрын
We need to see Rudyard smoke weed on next episode
@junior4900
@junior4900 Ай бұрын
Good luck, he’s living in Texas at the moment
@kumel1303
@kumel1303 Ай бұрын
Explaining jamaican civilization
@TheMoopMonster
@TheMoopMonster Ай бұрын
I see the Japanese wars of expansion, somewhat similar to Russias today. They're sprinting through a perceived advantageous strategy, for a world that doesn't exist anymore, finding they may be the biggest shark in their reef, but not in the ocean.
@deralufe9094
@deralufe9094 Ай бұрын
It seems thats timeline 47, where he started smoking.
@Peak_Aussieman
@Peak_Aussieman Ай бұрын
What should have been the start of Australian civilisation ended up heralding it's demise. It's one of history's greatest mysteries you see. Oh the vulgarity of our fortunes.
@onionfarmer3044
@onionfarmer3044 Ай бұрын
25:52 if their are only 2 books in English but more Chinese literature, couldn't someone just push literature through an online translator to then understand more if only from Chinese perspective.
@Smile4theKillCam456
@Smile4theKillCam456 Ай бұрын
there* Online translators lack nuance that human translators can parse. This is coming from somebody who has had to read a French book on 16th C. Lyon printshops via Google Translate. Sure, it worked for the basic facts. But anything beyond that?
@emilioperez6888
@emilioperez6888 Ай бұрын
The problem with the Chinese perspective is that is overly nationalistic and filled with emotions. A good way to understand how the Chinese view It though.
@juandelgadillo2656
@juandelgadillo2656 Ай бұрын
blud needs a higher quality cigar and learn how to light it
@nathanielzarny1176
@nathanielzarny1176 Ай бұрын
How was it that the japanese were struggling against china, but later could fight china and take over all the colonies of the west and fight a land war against the british in india? If they had all thise troops youd think that they could beat china in a war
@neolithictransitrevolution427
@neolithictransitrevolution427 Ай бұрын
My understanding is they got a lot of backing, particularly initially, from anti colonial rebel groups, who changed their mind as Japan was less helpful than sold.
@emilioperez6888
@emilioperez6888 Ай бұрын
The Nationalists were pretty much backed by the US and Communists by the USSR. No wonder, and as he said, waves of people do matter in war, despite the high mortality rates.
@raspootin7555
@raspootin7555 Ай бұрын
Didn’t say no spoilers
@PRAR1966
@PRAR1966 Ай бұрын
🙂
@ryanatallah345
@ryanatallah345 Ай бұрын
Neat
@davycroket100
@davycroket100 Ай бұрын
I was trying to look into what could possibly posses japan to do what it did during ww2 and it looks like its chalked up to ego and a notice me senpai complex lol Crazy
@declan11ful
@declan11ful Ай бұрын
He used a butane lighter
@schlichter11
@schlichter11 20 күн бұрын
Japan knew it needed resources that it didn’t possess natively to modernize but the western powers had already claimed most of them. This left china as the primary source to colonize and exploit. The US then sided with China in the conflict for various reasons, and then embargoed Japan’s oil imports which threatened its military & therefore its national self image / existence. At that point war against the western powers became inevitable. However their quick strikes against the European powers where wildly successful & had Japan not attacked the US but only the European colonies it would have had the resources and empire it craved. But as it turned out they planned to attack all western powers simultaneously and so everything unfolded as we know it today. That being said, Japan could have probably held on in the war much longer and maybe even ‘win’ as they defined it, if they had utilized their forces and advantages better.
@quasarsavage
@quasarsavage Ай бұрын
Based Rudyard 😂
@thekratomchannel
@thekratomchannel Ай бұрын
The pacific to be specific.
@unboiledegg5765
@unboiledegg5765 Ай бұрын
This might be Andrew Tate
@pleasework2092
@pleasework2092 Ай бұрын
In both the battles the British Indian Army fought against the Japanese, the Indians lost significantly less soldiers than the Japanese. Don't see the human waves here.
@auraguard0212
@auraguard0212 Ай бұрын
Howdy
@Johnjohnson-sy7fu
@Johnjohnson-sy7fu Ай бұрын
Debate undead chronic whatifautist
@theuniverse5173
@theuniverse5173 Ай бұрын
Owari da
@odiadordeisrael
@odiadordeisrael Ай бұрын
Japan did NOT control Manchuria in 1914.
@TomoTakinoFanClub
@TomoTakinoFanClub Ай бұрын
Yes it did, liar
@odiadordeisrael
@odiadordeisrael Ай бұрын
@@TomoTakinoFanClub Japan only came to control Manchuria two decades later after the 1931 Manchurian Incident, after which they would establish the puppet state of Manchukuo, with the former Qing emperor as it's figurehead. But of course you wouldn't know that, bonkurasu.
@emilioperez6888
@emilioperez6888 Ай бұрын
Speaking live really confuses people. He is far more coherent in videos since he can correct those unintentional errors.
@odiadordeisrael
@odiadordeisrael Ай бұрын
@@emilioperez6888 I was referring to the map he shown in the video, which he made and was mostly accurate.
@auraguard0212
@auraguard0212 Ай бұрын
Ah yes, the Co-Poverty Sphere.
@danielwatcherofthelord1823
@danielwatcherofthelord1823 Ай бұрын
So you don't think they knew the aircraft carrier was so strong!? You think they made the most expensive craft on accident!?
@ZontarDow
@ZontarDow Ай бұрын
Battleships where far more expensive than carriers during the war.
@danielwatcherofthelord1823
@danielwatcherofthelord1823 Ай бұрын
@@ZontarDow I would double check that if I were you
@725k9
@725k9 Ай бұрын
Äÿë
@b3rhunter
@b3rhunter Ай бұрын
jfc if you listen closely, you can hear the sound of 10,000 japanese veterans rolling over in there graves...i'm beginning to think he doesn't know what he is talking about lol!
@emilioperez6888
@emilioperez6888 Ай бұрын
What part does seem like he doesn't know what he is talking about? Because if It is about the recognition of nations about the potential of the Aircraft carrier, I might agree.
@danielwatcherofthelord1823
@danielwatcherofthelord1823 Ай бұрын
You can thank Darwin for imperial Japan and nasii Germany. Thats where evolutionary biologys end point is. Some are more equal than others.
@Smile4theKillCam456
@Smile4theKillCam456 Ай бұрын
??? Brother, how could you not believe in evolution in the year of our lord 2024 AD? Is this the type of crowd Rudyard ropes in?? Your poor daughter, man.
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater Ай бұрын
No
@poorpotato7623
@poorpotato7623 Ай бұрын
Didn’t do that much actual genocide? The rape of nanking? The testing on the Chinese? I’m beginning to doubt your knowledge
@Smile4theKillCam456
@Smile4theKillCam456 Ай бұрын
Rudyard really reporting from the front this time
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