Explanation - Minecraft Any% random seed speedrun [14.974 seconds]

[@AntVenom]

Pretty awesome stuff! I do feel this would fall under the "any%+" category (Not any%), which exists with other games, where other save files affect new ones. I know Zelda: Skyward Sword was completely broken w/ this concept. A very legitimate speed-run category, but it wouldn't be considered any%. It would be any%+

[@Sancarn]

+AntVenom Many people have been calling it NG+. I'm a complete noob in the speed running scene though. More of a watcher than a "doer"... Glad you enjoyed ^_^

[@Ilegator]

+Sancarn This is a fake speedrun, look ur cursor when ur generating the world!! Ur a faker!!!!!!!!

[@Sancarn]

Ilegator | UHC & SkyWars Many people use macros to make new worlds. Looks like you didn't watch the whole of this video.

[@Ilegator]

Sancarn Is just a joke xD I remembered the Alex's Enter to the Nether Speedrun.

[@iwersonsch5131]

I just did an Any% Glitchless random seed Speedrun in under 10 seconds. Just set your gamemode on Creative, do /setblock ~ ~ ~ end_portal twice and enjoy.

[@xisumavoid]

Its a cool glitch/exploit but i think trying to justify it as a valid speedrun is somewhat unfair. It would make all future speed runs about exploiting the bug as opposed to playing the game. You are essentially executing commands to complete the game quickly and i don't think many people would accept commands being used in a speed run.

[@Sancarn]

+xisumavoid And that is totally fine! In the end, the community decides whether the speed run is valid or not. I think it's a bit arbitrary and I'm not a massive fan of "official leaders self-defining what the rules for millions of people in a community are". For the same reasons why A stronger local government is way better economically than a strong national government. Communism/Facism v.s. Libertarianism. In my opinion, classing this speed run as invalid would make most other speed runs, which involve non-native commands, also invalid - if and only if we can do this in 1.7.10 that is. The fact that you can use commands, *specific to the operation system* like force-quit... Is completely ridiculous to me. And there are yet more problems with most official survival speed runs but I will make my rant separate from this! xD In the end I am sure there will be people who regard it as an official world record and other people who regard it a non official world record.

[@TheHardRocker2121]

+Sancarn If there is a way to use this glitch without commands, like other processes, it would be incredibly valid to use. The reason we make this invalid, is because it makes AA and RS (All Achievements and Random Seed), joke categories. It makes any one who runs this have the same time. These runs just take the fun out of running vanilla minecraft. Also, we banned commands for a specific reason. As SDA states, "Using beneficial cheat codes to your advantage, is banned." There force, using commands falls under this category. I'm confused what you mean when you said commands specific to the operating system. Care to explain?

[@Sancarn]

TheHardRocker2121 Alt + F4 is what I was talking about. Force quitting Minecraft. It's not native to the minecraft environment and therefore is less legitimate than this in my opinion. I.e. if you took a java environment with no OS then you couldn't run starts that involve force quitting the game. I am pretty sure about that command blocks have to be used. And I would disagree. It doesn't make them "joke categories" but instead just shifts the tactics. To be honest, with the amount of RNG in the game random seed, random spawning, random loot... the any% random seed category is a joke in my opinion... But that's a whole different story.

[@HardRocker2121]

+Sancarn What Force Quitting Minecraft, Alt+F4 or Cmd+Q (Mac), does it just reset the console or game basically.

[@Sancarn]

HardRocker2121 Yes but that is an external tool. No matter what you say it is something that isn't native to the Minecraft java environment. I understand it's there for traditional reasons because of the warp glitches like pokemon credit warps but it doesn't use Minecraft mechanics to beat the game. It's essentially an external tool - it's not a programmed feature. This at least is entirely self contained within Minecraft not requiring OS commands. But that's just how I define how speed runs should be.

[@Fennoman12]

Ok that is just downright insane. Awesome discovery everyone, and great presentation as always Sancarn! :-)

[@Sancarn]

+Fenno Thankies Fenno!

[@ElRichMC]

Never stop being amazing Sancarn! This is an incredible speedrun and a nicely edited/recorded video! Thank you for making this :-D

[@fernandonunez6154]

+SoyUnTaco XD WTF!?

[@pabloandrescarranzarojas809]

Descansa

[@jferry12_]

+SoyUnTaco te puedo comer pls?

[@TheJavild]

+ElRichMC - Minecraft Técnico, PvP & CTMs Hola Rich :D

[@c0mplex]

Deberían comentar en inglés, este no es un canal en español D:

[@RaysWorks]

Great job Sancarn! I love the editing! After TamTam released his video I was surprised that no one mentioned that this could be used in speedruns. So I did it myself for fun by setting my gamemode to creative and then typing the commands in by hand. It was fun telling people that I could beat the game of Minecraft in under 30 seconds This had people requesting that I make a video about it., but since it was in a snapshot version I knew it would never be a real speedrun record. I never knew about the "can't change gamemode" part in the rules, so that was interesting to see how you over came that. The ender dragon taking a while to make the exit end portal was something I thought there might be a way around but never did find one. Once I seen your first teaser I knew you would make an epic video explain it much better than I could! =D

[@Sancarn]

+Rays Recall: These rules are completely user defined. I used the "can't change game mode" rule to prevent people using the old "Open to LAN" glitch to swap to game mode 1. Thanks for the thanks.

[@Panda4994]

Very awesome! Well done video :D

[@Sancarn]

+Panda4994 Danke mein freunden! :D

[@CubeDoesStuff]

+Sancarn Danke mein Freund... No en at the end, but incase you ment multiple people, then its Danke meine Freunde :D

[@Sancarn]

Cube does Stuff oh... 6 Years since I did German :P I'm a bit rusty... xD

[@Sancarn]

I would just like to remind everyone to be sure to watch all of the video :P Even though it is "a world record" in my opinion, I can see many people will deny it because of the specific method. There is a part at the end of this video just for you from 11:24 onwards! Thanks again to all the people in credited at the end of the video and in the description! P.S. +azlef I knew you'd guess the method correctly ;) But you just had to spoil the fun by telling everyone didn't you? xP

[@Sancarn]

@Craft Kid - I can no longer reply to your comments because it appears you have blocked me for whatever reason... I would just like to point out that perhaps *you* might also wish to look in a dictionary: www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/patronise And I quote: "Definition of PATRONISE - British variant of PATRONIZE" Now if you were to stop Patronising/patronizing me that would be very nice and perhaps we can start speaking like real human beings.

[@MultiAla01]

+Sancarn Command Blocks executed the commands. But who set the commands? Who placed the command blocks?

[@Sancarn]

TʜᴇBʟᴏxxɪɴɢBʟᴏᴄᴋs I did. But that was before the run itself. You're allowed to do as much preparation for the run as you like. Many many people play with set seeds. Ultimately they're planning before hand exactly what they are going to do. That's allowed :)

[@MultiAla01]

Sancarn still its a bug that seems cheat-y but since its Any% its okay

[@CapQuacer]

+Sancarn in a set seed playing the seed before a speed run is only done as a practice, no different then Playing "A Link to the Past" to map out your course before hand, this has no direct impact on the later play through outside of knowing your path. It is a task of memorization which goes back to the core of speed running. You use the "Previous run" as a direct influence on the game.

[@ChaosComposer]

This is a really cool video! I'd agree with Antvenom in that it'd probably be closer to any%+ , but in any case it's a damn genius speedrun and very well executed. I'm on your side with this one!

[@Unarybit]

Awesome :) Great editing and explanation!

[@Sancarn]

+Unarybit Danke schön (probably the wrong spelling.... O_o)

[@Unarybit]

+Sancarn Absolutely perfect :)

[@Sancarn]

+Unarybit Yaaaays! :D

[@AwesomeCuberLink]

As insanely awesome as this is, I am extremely disappointing by you making your own Minecraft speedrun rules, when they already exist here: www.speedrun.com/mc/thread/gq26u. This run breaks rules 5 and 16. If you would like to, I'm willing to negotiate the rules. Another thing. A speedrun which takes advantage of other save files, such as this one, are referred to as NG+ (newgame+). Again, this is incredibly cool, but unless you're creating your own leaderboards, this run is not acceptable on any leaderboards, so I don't think you should call it World Record. If you make videos like this again, I strongly recommend contacting the MC speedrun community at large, and not just a single japanese runner.

[@Sancarn]

+AwesomeCuber Okay. So: 1. I'm not a massive fan of self-proclaimed "official leaders" self-defining what the rules for millions of community members are especially when the interaction between the leaders and the *entire* community is likely extremely small. Good evidence of this *minimal interaction* is that Loutlot who is "supposedly" the top speed runner, or manager of the top speed runner, for Minecraft in Japan, didn't know of these "official" rules. And rather around this time there should be a meeting with Mojang themselves to define actual, "official" speed running rules at a speed running council in Japan... So I'm not as uninformed as you might think... 2. When I look for a "World Record" speed run I am looking for the fastest way to beat Vanilla Minecraft. Not the "Fastest way except those that involve the use of game large-skip glitches". 3. I can, as I said in the video, understand the use of snapshots being a downfall to you and other speed runners but frankly the rules in my opinion should be community defined. There will be people who see this as *The fastest* and people who see it as cheating. I don't really care for how the self proclaimed official body sees it... That being said I gave many options for you, and the rest of those of the speed running community who don't like this run, to potentially be able to do this in 1.7.10. Feel free to do runs which are more official there :) Finally I don't really care for your leaderboards and I certainly don't feel any need to negotiate anything really... Looking at the definitions of NG+ it is quite different to what this is. NG+, from what I can tell, is specifically "carrying through items from a previously completed game" You don't need to complete the previous Minecraft world in this case. It rather seems to be a blend of many different types of speed run categories like warp, NG, scripted and many others I am sure. Besides, it's why each speed run depends on the rules given. Hence why I gave my rules clearly in this video :) If I were you I would do the leaderboards like they do with HalfLife wiki.sourceruns.org/wiki/Category:Half-Life_1 with columns like: Runner; version; seed; OS commands?; External_tools; glitches?; etc. etc. Then the rules aren't strict and each player can play to the rules they decide. Minecraft is a sandbox after all.

[@FrozenPoptartMC]

+Sancarn "I'm not a massive fan of self-proclaimed 'official leaders' self-defining what the rules for millions of community members are especially when the interaction between the leaders and the entire community is likely extremely small." This comment is misleading because it implies that there are millions of Minecraft speedrunners, when the majority of the community's participation in speedrunning is viewing, rather than doing speedruns themselves. No one enjoys people who rise to power out of nowhere, but I have known these people for a long time. They know how speedrunning should work (as they have all participated in speedruns outside of Minecraft) and have based the rules of Minecraft speedrunning off of that. "there should be a meeting with Mojang themselves to define actual, 'official' speed running rules at a speed running council in Japan" If you have ever considered what most game development companies think of glitches (and usually a large majority of their communities), you will know that they generally don't like them and try to patch them. If we leave the development of speedrunning rules to people who know NOTHING ABOUT SPEEDRUNNING and have NEVER PARTICIPATED IN ACTUAL SPEEDRUNNING, the whole concept of speedrunning video games will be an absolute failure. People who don't know how speedrunning works will likely overlook the key components of what makes it fun. "I can understand the use of snapshots being a downfall to you and other speed runners but frankly the rules in my opinion should be community defined." Everyone in the speedrunning community will tell you that the whole focus is on a community effort. When problems are brought up, the community works together for solutions. For some reason, the Minecraft speedrunning community has a knack for KZbinrs with large audiences to incorrectly sway the opinions of lots of people. In the case of AntVenom, he pretty much ruined alexANDgame's Enter Nether Random Seed speedrun by falsely claiming that the video was edited. He also claimed to have found a glitch that was found over a year before by a different person. Obviously, you aren't doing any of these things, but you are claiming that "the speedrunning body is not communal", when it actually is very community-based. There is a difference between a development of ideas and one random person coming up and claiming that everything they're saying is correct. "Finally I don't really care for your leaderboards and I certainly don't feel any need to negotiate anything really..." Then please don't be alarmed when people who know what they're talking about tell you that you're wrong. If you don't care to accept how the Minecraft speedrunning community views speedrunning, then don't. But don't act like what you're saying is correct. "Looking at the definitions of NG+ it is quite different to what this is." NG+ is generally defined as "requires more than the current file/save/etc... to complete". If you don't believe that this is NG+, then you should time the preparation (which NG+ does not do). Claiming that your way of speedrunning is correct when it goes against every previously created convention is simply ignorant. "Then the rules aren't strict and each player can play to the rules they decide. Minecraft is a sandbox after all." Yeah, "Can be played on any difficulty that is not peaceful. Glitches are allowed. Timing starts on first input and ends when triggering the End Poem. This category is ranked by In-Game Time. Time out loads or use one of the programs provided under resources while running." is extremely vague and does not EXACTLY SPELL OUT HOW THE SPEEDRUN IS TO BE PLAYED. Minecraft being a sandbox is a terrible justification because that would imply that you could do literally anything you wanted to get to the end (such as creative mode or cheats), which wouldn't be fun for anyone. Reasonable rules have to be put into place and allowing anybody to show up and change these rules is bad for everyone.

[@xfrogyfro]

+Sancarn I'd like to clarify one thing. One member of the minecraft speedrunning community posted your run in a Skype chat of 20-30 minecraft runners. After a short discussion, we came to the consensus that this is not a valid speedrun. Afterwards, Cuber posted this comment. This comment is not Cuber declaring himself God of minecraft, it's an accurate representation of the opinions of most if not all of the speedrunners. Also, a word of advice for the Japanese runners, most of them that we've talked to ban ALL glitches in their runs. You're going to have less luck getting this accepted by them than getting this accepted by us.

[@BaccarWozat]

+Sancarn I am behind your interpretation of the rules and agree with you completely. Rules by "majority" where others get to decide just sounds like a bunch of bullies forcing their interpretations on others. I call this a speedrun, and just as valid as anything else.

[@BlueCrystal004]

+Sancarn I have actually communicated with members of the Japanese community, so don't pull that bullshit. However, due to a significant language barrier and the lack of connections, bridging the two communities is still something I want to do. So if you speak japanese or loutlot speaks English, then that would be a big help

[@astrogirl1usa]

Well done Sancarn! I loved it and it was explained really well, too. :D

[@Sancarn]

+Astrogirl1usa Glad you enjoyed! o(^_^)o

[@mykyta_myronenko]

I remember Panda talking about this on a stream. I knew it was possible to have commands executed in one world effect another world but didn't know how or why it worked or even that it only woked with /execute command. Good stuff!

[@Sancarn]

+Ozillion Glad you enjoyed! And yeah I remember seeing that in Panda's stream too and was wondering whether someone would beat me to it xD

[@Kollybot101]

Well done! This is just insane and awesome. Nice editing btw

[@Sancarn]

+kollybot101 Glad you enjoyed! ^_^

[@GaliaMinecraft]

That is what i guesed. It was still interesting and the video was edited really well :)

[@TheRedstoneScientist]

Incredible stuff! Amazing editing! SAVED

[@elEd0]

Just epic dude, I didnt know about this bug, i had seen something similar tho: world b rendering blocks of world a when changing from world a->b very quickly. Btw, "and as always, thanks 4 watching" Vsancarn confirmed?

[@Sancarn]

+elEd0 Yeah I've experienced that bug too. No idea what is happening but I assume it is just a rendering buffer bug I've used that ending for a long long time :P

[@elEd0]

Sancarn Really? xD had'nt realized it before till today

[@Sancarn]

elEd0 It's only like 1 gametick :P But yeah it's noticeable in recordings for sure :P

[@roaringdragon2628]

+Sancarn I also realized that items you were holding in world a, get shown in your hand for a moment in world b.

[@preisiHD]

Awesome Execution of the idea, perfectly recorded video and great editing :)

[@Sancarn]

+preisiHD Glad you enjoyed ^_^!

[@AgentM124]

would setblocking a end portal at the players position be valid? you would see the credits too but it doesn't require to kill a dragon

[@tmpace9]

acheivements

[@error.418]

he explains why you can't just set an end portal in his video: How I made the Minimum Time

[@yesman1231]

What a clickbait title this video is CLEARLY 14 minutes and 53 seconds not 14.974 seconds kappa

[@Sancarn]

lol :P

[@scarlas7071]

Based on precedent, I think this should count as a "NewGame Plus" category. A normal any% run should be possible to do in a "factory settings" state, and should not require any preparations before the new game is started. There is a similar situation in Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D where you can glitch an item onto the B-button and keep it when starting a new game. An important difference is that in this case, not much is left to do after the preparations.

[@Sancarn]

+Scarlas If a body were to create official rules for any% that would make a lot of sense yeah. But of course it all really depends how the user defines the rules and how the community sees them. It's always the way ^_^. It's like how in the half life community people use scripts all the time to improve speed runs because it is "socially acceptable" and technically still possible. Indeed. Because the preparations do everything for you...

[@benhardwiesner6963]

Why do you have to kill the dragon? Couldnt you just let a commandblock spawn another endportal directly under you?

[@error.418]

He discusses why you can't just spawn the endportal in his video: How I made the Minimum Time

[@ManuLotto]

That's.... well, I can't even find a word to describe that. Explanation: 10/10 Video editing: 10/10 I just loved it. Thanks for this video. I really wanted to know how it worked.

[@Sancarn]

+Manuellotito Glad you enjoyed! :D

[@orionkoshi]

This is amazing... Good job!

[@Sancarn]

+orioon Glad you enjoyed! ^_^

[@Toombe]

I mean I have sort of ran into this bug or something similar to it in 1.11.2, could be due to my bad connection but if I tried connecting to a server and then pressed cancel at the joining server screen, I was able to enter a single player world of mine but it was like a weird cross over of both worlds. Visually it was my single player world but physically the server's world. Just thought I'd contribute info in case it could be useful for anything.

[@marijn6009]

As explained in many speedruns: the timer starts when you are in control of your character, in portal that is when you see the cross-air. In minecraft probably the same

[@Sancarn]

+Marijntjep Interesting so it would cut a massive portion of the time out of the run then, if you get the timing right like I was talking in the other explanation video! :D

[@Tamtam18TheCreative]

+Sancarn I'm glad you could give a better explanation about the exploit than I could :)

[@Sancarn]

+Tamtam Thanks for making the video about it originally! Also, I didn't know you still existed... So welcome back! :P

[@Tamtam18TheCreative]

+Sancarn well you know, I'm just lurking about. :P

[@Sancarn]

Tamtam Well good to hear! ^_^ I have to say I have known many people in my time on KZbin and many of those people have also disappeared... One often does wonder where people have gone and whether they do still lurk about :)

[@544608]

+Sancarn You have had a major oversight. The theoretical minimal time is actually 2 game ticks (which I believe is 0.1 seconds). This is because you can simply set an end portal block at the player's position in the End to trigger the credits. This would remove the need of waiting for the EnderDragon's death animation.

[@Sancarn]

+Jason Cobb This was impossible in this version of minecraft. That only started being thing in 1.8 I believe, I mentioned it in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqa1h6WjrsubbNE :)

[@544608]

Oh.. sorry! I watched that before, but I guess I forgot.

[@Chronophylos]

i dont care if its legit its awesome and cool

[@MisterErwinspielt]

One thing is true, we didn't have setBlock in releases before 1.8. But we could summon FallingBlocks. Otherwise: Great concept & video ;)

[@dzaima4737]

we did have setblock sience 1.7, but no execute

[@Huntracony]

Emulators are allowed in some old games, as long as it would not be different on the original system. So you're not allowed to use glitches in the emulator that do not exist in the original system. In fact, sometimes a world record using a new glitch set using an emulator is not acknowledged until someone performs that glitch without an emulator. Also, occasionally glitches which change the nature of speedrunning so much, like this one, the speedruns without that glitch become its own category.

[@MuffinMystery]

Like everything, minecraft is based on rules. Some rules can be bent, others broken. You are the one sancarn :D

[@Sancarn]

+MinecraftEntity True. In the end minecraft is a sandbox. There is no "1 correct way" to play the game. Which is why defining the rules is important to really compare speed runs, if someone wants to... Glad you enjoyed! :D

[@The_NSeven]

I love this sort of stuff! :D

[@misterjeckyll]

I think the definition of when the timer start is wrong, in most speed-run the timer start when the first input is processed by the game environment, like the start button in mario.

[@Sancarn]

+misterjeckyll I have heard many many rules for this :P But it just goes to show that the rules are incredibly flexible :D

[@misterjeckyll]

fair enough ^^

[@tearlach47]

I never thought I'd see the day that someone connects Scykoh to Minecraft.

[@wood-eye]

It's more like an exploit of the rules than an exploit of the game's glitches. Good job on finding that out, it shows you're good at thinking outside of the box. But when something like that happens on the speedrunning community, I think they usually split categories.

[@Sancarn]

+Wood Croft Yeah indeed. The speed difference is incredibly vast so I honestly don't blame them. If it was saving 2 seconds they probably wouldn't mind. It's just when it saves 5 minutes from a time which is around 5 minutes long that they have a problem which is completely understandable! :)

[@RoseWaterTV]

Here the problem that i see with this run in my understanding of the glitch as you explain it. You have the world in which the command blocks are firing loaded during the time of the run. This world was not a newly generated at the start of the timer and did not have cheats turned off. One of the rules as you state it is "you must play on a newly generated survival world with cheats disabled". Because the world with command blocks was loading and possessing ticks during the time of the run did you not "play" on that world thus by extension violating the rule of playing on a newly generated survival world with cheats disabled? I don't know if you will respond as this is an old comment section but i could not help but point out the contradictions i see with the current rule set for this run. Either way still a cool idea and you don't have to do the normal grinding involved with getting a low time lol.

[@TheDeafCreeper]

If you use the definition of play (engage in activity for enjoyment and recreation rather than a serious or practical purpose.), then it would mean that when using the glitch you are not playing in the creative world because you have no way yo interact with it. If you count "engaging in activity" as either interacting with the world or the world interacting with you, then yes it would technically be breaking the rules, but if you go by a stricter interpretation, then it is fine to have the creative world half loaded during the run.

[@msgordito99]

It's seems like I'm watching a Vsauce video. Really fun. Sancarn, you're the best.

[@Sancarn]

+Sebastián Escobar Glad you enjoyed! ^_^

[@IzraillGaming]

Dude from the speedrun.com leaderboards here, unlike the others I'll keep it simple. I understand this was done on a snapshot. The run will be considered legit and added to the leaderboards as New Game+ only if you do it in a non-snapshot version. Since that is the only rule which we won't change (we have slightly reworded the existing command rules and added new ones to accomodate for this already). So all you need is a video done on a release version. And yes, this is New Game+ since it requires to have played a previous savefile, and anyone from the overall speedrun community (not just minecraft speedrunning) can tell you that.

[@Sancarn]

+Izraill - For those wanting to do this how would you time such a speed run? Would the timer start upon the creation of the creative command block world or upon the creation of the survival world or what? I *personally* don't plan to do anything more with this glitch but if some people of your community want to take on the concept and such that's completely fine :) The world is up for download and I will include the macro I used too, though it only works for keyboard maestro for mac :P

[@IzraillGaming]

The timing would start in the survival and final world, as in a NG+ run the setup time in the previous save is not counted.

[@IzraillGaming]

also, we would not allow the use of macros since that is an external tool to minecraft

[@Sancarn]

Izraill Gaming That does make sense though remember that without them you introduce much more RNG to the speed run.

[@BlueCrystal004]

+Sancarn RNG is minecraft, deal with it, that's how you speedrun this game.

[@SuperNikio2]

How do I get snapshot 14w21? Only snapshots for 1.9 are shown in the launcher

[@Sancarn]

+SuperNikio2 You should be able to download it from the minecraft wiki I think? Someone posted a comment about it here... xD I think azelef or myren?

[@SandJosieph]

Hmm, I think there should be more to this speedrun. Like adding the amount of seconds it takes to spawn in command blocks and then typing in each command by hand while in the previous world. Not just copying and pasting. Because most of the heavy lifting was done in the world where cheats were enabled.

[@JoaoVitor-mf8iq]

so, what happen with the 3d quarry?

[@Sancarn]

+João Vitor That's been made by +myren eario and +redstoneJazz

[@15Redstones]

Wow! But can't you give the player a custom spawner in 1.7 that will spawn commandblocks to setblock a portal, teleport the player in it and summon a falling end portal in it to activate the credits without killing the dragon? Ýou don't kill it too, you summon a second one so it would be fine to just summon a falling end portal in the overworld end portal.

[@Sancarn]

+15 Redstones Hmmm at first when reading this comment I assume I had no idea what you were talking about :P I'm not sure you can give custom spawners to the player. At least not in that version of minecraft.

[@shaicry]

from the pov of the Minecraft character, you created a wormhole between universes.

[@CyclopsDragon]

This is going to be a bit long-winded, but bear with me, because I'll compare this run to runs of other games to explain the general stance of the speedrunning community. The closest parallel I can draw to this in terms of whether it should be a separate run category is The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword. It's possible in SS to make use of a glitch that draws properties from the third file of the game, so that when you have a completed game file in the third save slot, it transfers certain aspects of game progress over to the first file. That allows you to beat the game right after starting. It's not considered to be any% because it requires a pre-made file, and preparing that file takes longer than the default any% run. The issue that this Minecraft run presents is that it doesn't follow a rule that pretty much everyone in the community agrees on (that is, using beneficial cheats, or commands that you don't have access to when playing the game by normal means, renders the run unable to be considered the main category). A good example of this is Banjo-Tooie "cheato%": it's faster than normal any%, but because it uses cheato cheats, it's not the default any% run of the game. You made an interesting argument about Alt+F4, but the big difference is that Alt+F4 falls under the category of what might be called "platform functionality", which can be a bit of a grey area in speedrunning. It's not a function of the game, but it's a function of the platform running that game. This is another community-specific decision. The Minecraft speedrunning community has decided to allow it because of the many advantages to running on PC and the differences between PC and other versions, but in Dark Souls for example, the Xbox 360 version can warp by starting a voice chat during a loading screen, skipping half of the game, but since the vast majority of the runners are on PC, and the versions are identical outside of loading times and that warp glitch, the community (including the Xbox 360 runners) defined any% as the run that doesn't abuse this console functionality, while the warp glitch has its own category.

[@Sancarn]

+CyclopsDragon Nice and long comment without major accusations. The commands are on two sides for me. We are in a world where cheats are disabled so one could clearly see this as a programming oversight. On the other hand cheats are still activated which benefit the player. So yeah... That's a grey area for me just like "platform functionality" is for you. Thing with "platform functionality" though is you can literally send inputs and alter information inside Minecraft which can completely change the way the engine works... For instance. Minecraft stores things in RAM. Via the console you can go into the RAM and change information stored inside minecraft to get an advantage. Similarly as you can with Alt F4... You're still changing the system / giving an input which isn't intended. And that's ridiculous... It's traditional and goes way back to console games which is why I can see why it is seen as acceptable. But I think it's really iffy, way more so than using in-game functionality...

[@CyclopsDragon]

+Sancarn Fair point. I'll go back to some other points from general speedrunning agreements. It's generally agreed upon that speedruns as a whole are not allowed to use any console commands or external programs to modify the behaviour of the game. In any case, you can only modify something like memory addresses if it can be done through gameplay, like in the Super Mario World credits warp run. The fact that cheats are activated means that cheats are used, regardless of the fact that the world you played in does not have cheats enabled, and cheats being used classifies the run differently from a normal any% run by community standards. I would also like to hear your opinion on the "pre-made file" side of this discussion, as I stated in my previous comment, as that's also something that people use to classify runs differently.

[@ajkbgkjeagkeajgabgbkeb]

Wouldn't it be faster to just place ender portal under player's feet 2 times?

[@Sancarn]

It'd be great, but at the time that was impossible. See this for details: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqa1h6WjrsubbNE Later speedruns by Exploits4Ever did do exactly this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHaYl2iLetucesU

[@KaiCSGO]

Hey +Sancarn what snapshot?

[@tearlach47]

+Menonmoon /Kai 14w21a

[@Sitron_]

Would this run count as a NG+ because of the events happening in the NG affect the second save?

[@Sancarn]

+Hellstenen Hmmm... Kinda... But not really... I think rather it's in it's own brand of speed run xD Because there is no game like minecraft in that way... I'm not a speed runner and don't really know what the definition of NG+ is but from what I can tell "Basically, starting the game over while carrying over everything you've gained from a previous playthrough(s)" - it kind of is and kind of isn't. Because the "previous play through" never actually required a finish... If that makes sense? Like you never actually needed to win World A to execute the commands in World B. So it kinda is NG+ but kinda isn't... xD

[@xfrogyfro]

+Hellstenen +Sancarn This is exactly NG+. NG+ is what you said, but it also applies to the use of other save files for the speedrun. The general rule used by most speedgames is "if the file is used in the speedrun, it has to be blank at the start." So in order to ever get this accepted as an actual speedrun, you'd need to create a new creative world and run the timer while placing the command blocks.

[@Sitron_]

+Sancarn Yes, the fact that you don't complete the first world makes it not be a NG+, not 100% sure though. This speedrun sure is interesting, some may claim it wouldn't qualify as a speedrun because the use of "another" save running in the background, (even if it's only for a short period of time). The game 'Sound Shapes' are available for multiple platforms (PS3, Vita & PS4) and have six trophy lists (like achievements, except it's Sony) and if you complete one trophy list you can use that save to complete the other five trophy lists without actually playing them all over again. But just because you use a different save to complete another one in a few seconds doesn't mean you actually only played for those few seconds to achieve the trophies. "*And this is where the argument begins*" The same principle kinda goes for your minecraft speedrun. You use a save to manipulate another. You play the game twice to complete it, and the worlds are connected. Here, some could claim that since the worlds are connected, the time should begin when the first world is created and stop when you reach the credits in the second world. *Same same, but different* The run is still seperate of sorts, it is played in a seperate world etc. In some games, progress is stored across multiple saves. Maybe you find a collectible in one save and store it in your profile and then you won't have to pick it up again. The thing you do in the run could be seen as something only affecting the player which gives the player special attributes when the run is starting. This is totally fine as save corruption is a popular method in any% speedruns, like you said.

[@Sancarn]

+frogyfro Well if you want to redo it by all means do so ^_^ I never wanted an "official" world record. I was literally doing a favour for a friend xD +Hellstenen It is all very confusing in the end xD But that's one of the reasons I never really liked official bodies that define rules... Just like the law there are many millions of loop holes and the more specific you make the rules the less ground it covers... Minecraft is a sandbox game, there is no "1 correct way to play the game". I take a similar approach to speed running myself. Why do it "their way" when you can do it "your own way" and probably have a lot more fun doing so! ^_^ That is unless you "want to be the very best, that no one ever was" xD

[@Sitron_]

+Sancarn well lol, it's still very interesting and fun to see this kinda run. The thought behind it and then actually doing it is just great, kudos man. "Wanna see me speedrun Minecraft? Wanna see me do it again?"

[@l0rddrag0music15]

He stole VSauce's outro line. Burn him at the stake! Just kidding of course, very nice work on this. I personally have learned about the game from your work. Keep up the innovation!

[@Sancarn]

+L0rdDrag0Music LOL! Glad you enjoyed it! ^_^

[@ruinenlust_]

How'd you make the macro?

[@Sancarn]

+[ IFDIFGIF ] Keyboard Maestro for mac. Look in the description credits! :)

[@ruinenlust_]

Sancarn Thanks :) GG for the run though!

[@bloodborne-ts720p2]

Lol, is really a incredible work... Nice SpeedRun :D

[@Sancarn]

+BloodBorne - TS720p Thanks glad you enjoyed :D

[@xfrogyfro]

FYI for the FAQ, there's a dupe glitch that doesn't abuse OS commands that is generally more used.

[@Sancarn]

+frogyfro There is? Can you links me? :D

[@xfrogyfro]

Sancarn Not sure if there's a good video on it but in 1.8 you just Save and quit on the first frame you pick up and item and it gives you two

[@Sancarn]

***** Oh. Yeah. I guess few people use that (in the world records I have seen) because it's more difficult to get the timing right and wastes time. That is much more legit though :)

[@xfrogyfro]

Sancarn It's faster if you get it first try and if you mess it up it's faster to retry. The only draw back is it's much harder.

[@Sancarn]

***** Well I don't see why people use OS commands when there is a legitimate way. Otherwise it just feels like the justification for a TAS "It's technically possible without OS commands (or tools in TAS) but I don't have the skills to do it"

[@LympyDownunder]

Not sure we'll see you on GDQ anytime soon but interesting technical achievement nevertheless.

[@Sancarn]

+LympyDownunder Haha I totally would not be surprised! :D

[@ITR]

Has speedrun.com said anything yet?

[@Sancarn]

+MMMIK13 Well awesome cuber has 2 comments below. It was marked as spam automatically like your comment :P [URL]

[@ITR]

+Sancarn on a separate note, 1.9 seems to have entity collision again, do you think it will be possible to improve the void-crawler now?

[@Sancarn]

MMMIK13 The void crawler stopped working because they gave a really rough (and dirty) fix for ghost mode.

[@ITR]

Sancarn Oh, that sucks.

[@Sancarn]

MMMIK13 Nah it just allows for more innovative designs :D

[@R1ence]

If had to authenticate the run, i wouldn't approve it since you changed the gamemode in a different world and used commandblocks (cheats) to finish your run. If you could get a commanblock in survival without using a different map it would be okay to do so. There are games out there in with you can use cheat codes in savegame 1 and switch to savegame 2 and still have the cheat active, but that is still cheating. I think this is applies in this case too. In pokemon you manipulate the game engine in savegame 1 and not in a savegame 2 so it is a valid run. But that is just my personal opinion and i still think this is a really cool find :)

[@CubeDoesStuff]

WAAAAAAAAAIT a second.... Cant you just do /execute sancarn ~ ~ ~ /setblock ~ ~ ~ end_portal to place an endportal IN the end? Because the main slow thing is waiting for the enderdragon death animation... Also It's not a TAS... The Macro isn't used in the speedrun itself Its the same if you would use a macro to do all the settings on a game which doesnt save those Example Pokemon text speed The command cheat thing... Is also wrong The new world has Cheats off... Even tho you could argue you placed the commandblocks BUT AGAIN before the timer starts... In my opinion: No TAS No Cheats AND MOST IMPORTANTLY I quote 1:40: "abusing programming oversights left in the game" And that is true, its a programming bug which alows you to do this LEGAL MINECRAFT SPEEDRUN - Cube's Seal of Aproval

[@Sancarn]

+Cube You seen my latest video by now? :P That's why I would call it a legal speed run also. No Cheats and is a programming oversight. SO personally I would define it that way. But many people are different and come from different backgrounds so I can understand why others may argue that it isn't a world record or whatever. In my books. It's the fastest, theoretical, way to complete the game, using ONLY in game mechanics, so it's a world record.

[@CubeDoesStuff]

+Sancarn Yeah I have, And I also understand the whole different perspective on cheats and stuff thing Just saying in my opinion its legit ;)

[@CubeDoesStuff]

+Sancarn Also... Sancarn... Why don't you: Summon a faling sand entity with the data tag of an end portal block in the overworld over ur end portal? the falling sand entity would get moved to the end inside you, land, aaaaaaand ur done?

[@Sancarn]

+Cube that only works in the latest version of minecraft and the glitch doesn't work there. But that was my original idea (the thing about the end portal that is). And in 1.7 we didn't have execute which was the problem for getting end portals... xD Yeah in my opinion it's legit enough for me! :D

[@CubeDoesStuff]

+Sancarn Just had an idea: Why dont you do /give sancarn minecraft:end_portal and place it manualy?

[@b3kstudio]

That.. was.. INSANE!

[@Sancarn]

+TheZoli Glad you enjoyed! :D

[@Kceam]

I'm pretty impressed :o

[@Sancarn]

+Kceam I'm impressed you commented :O Thanks :D

[@madsmtm]

A little V Sauce outro there? :P

[@Sancarn]

+MadsMarquart As always! ;)

[@Rednesswahn]

That's awesome!

[@Sancarn]

+Redstonewahn Indeed! Tam-tam definitely discovered an awesome glitch! :D

[@Rednesswahn]

That wouldn't work on servers I think because this uses the same internal/ local server.

[@Sancarn]

Yeah indeed. I doubt it would work from SP to SMP either. It depends how items get given to the client from the server.

[@TheTzann]

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but speedruns are done on a clean client - meaning there's no setup before the run, unless it's absolutely necessary (e.g. VVVVVV No-Death Mode). If you have to set up the game in any way then I would hesitate to call it a speedrun, unless you start the timer from when you first change anything (setting up the first world), which is how it's usually done anyway. If you check the speedrun leaderboard for minecraft, it says the timer starts on first input, not when the world is first generated, which seems alot more fair. This is closer to a TAS run than an actual speedrun.

[@Sancarn]

+TheTzann "but speedruns are done on a clean client" - not in the majority of Minecraft speed runs I have seen. People have many many previous worlds in all their time. I agree though, if an association were to make "official" rules then they would want the "clean install" rule.

[@TheTzann]

+Sancarn Of course they do, it would be silly if you had to delete all your worlds before you start a speedrun, and it's impractical. But the difference there is that what they have already done doesn't influence the game at all. In your case, you're setting up the game's memory in a specific way to give yourself a huge advantage. While you do start a fresh world, your speedrun requires no skill to execute. Of course the setup is quite complicated, and I admire the fact that you took the time to figure it out and I think it's an interesting exploit. I just wouldn't consider this an actual speedrun, unless you count the setup in the time as well. For your ruleset, it works, but I suspect most speedrunners would hesitate to let this run qualify as a world record.

[@Sancarn]

TheTzann To be fair since I am using an own ruleset I should probably rename it away from world record. Because that would assume some other base ruleset of other peoples runs. So that will be something I change :)

[@MrCheeze]

Well, anything that requires a pre-made world is properly a New Game+ run, not any%... Although given that you have to open the command block world every run, doing so really ought to be included in the timing as well.

[@cad97]

Nice catch. I'll side here and say this speedrun if legit should go in a NewGame+ category

[@Sancarn]

+MrCheeze Something I'd never heard of before. In the end one can define it how they like ^_^ It doesn't change the idea that it is the fastest way to complete minecraft :D

[@NathanTAK]

+Sancarn Technically, the fastest way to complete Minecraft is through a mod that launches credits on-creation, BEFORE the world loads (negative time). Unless you don't consider mods to be "Minecrafty"

[@Sancarn]

Nathan T true it's the fastest vanilla way at least :)

[@TheCoolCool2010]

link the macro tool please

[@Sancarn]

+Läuft I did...

[@jb1594]

Does this work for Xbox 360

[@jb1594]

+KeksGaming k,just asking.Get a life

[@kelliestichbury4872]

How bout TAS

[@Wout12345]

Nice glitch, surprised so many people already guessed it yesterday, never heard of it. :o It's also interesting to hear about the history ... for some reason I remember you were sitting with us during the closing ceremony, but I'm probably mistaken there. O.o Good thing you addressed the TAS issue, I actually had a question about that. :P I think I'd personally still call it TAS, though I get your point, no macros are used during the run ... One thing I don't get though: why do you kill an Enderdragon to get the end portal? Nothing in your rules states anything about having to kill it, so what stops you from just placing another end portal at your feet? Apart from the macro dilemma, I will admit this fits the general speedrunning rules. However, I think I'll side with speedrun.com and their version rule this time. The term "speedrun" should be defined to be useful, and in my case that means when I search "Minecraft all achievements speedrun" I'd rather watch something like the SGDQ 2015 run than yours (though your video is still worth the watch of course ;-) ). You may find this more entertaining, up to you, though banning these kind of runs by not allowing snapshots seems to be more practical simply for my expectations. Finally, good job on the editing as usual. Not too much to say about it. Also funny how you addressed some of the critiques on beforehand already, as I assume you didn't record this in the past 24 hours. :P

[@AwesomeCuberLink]

+Wout12345 I pretty much 100% agree with this comment.

[@mykyta_myronenko]

+Wout12345 In his last video Sancarn mentioned that it's not possible to setblock a portal in this version. That's too bad.

[@Wout12345]

Ozillion Yeah, I watched that too. He should just release everything at once, I wrote this comment when this was his most recent video. XD

[@Sancarn]

+Wout12345 Excuse me! Some people should learn to be patient! :P

[@Wout12345]

Sancarn Someone should learn to be patient? Oh sure, I'll just make a video begging a bunch of questions, then wait a day, release all the answers, and call the questioners impatient even though they weren't informed of further videos whatsoever. :P

[@Qbe_Root]

But first, we need to talk about parallel universes.

[@pjotrpjotrpjotr123]

wow i thought it was a prank but it is exually real? thats just awesome

[@betohax]

"Hypothesis supported by evidence"... so a theory.

[@ajkbgkjeagkeajgabgbkeb]

imo this run should include the time used to build in the "command block" world... Impresive run anyways

[@connorhorman]

I would call this Save Corruption (or Similar) rather than ANY%. In most games the Generic Any% Does not allow this kind of glitch, Like SMW disallowing Arbitrary Code Execution for the Any% Category on Speedrun.com or Pokemon Disallowing Save Corruption for its Any%.

[@want-diversecontent3887]

For me? Oh, this is a completely new category beyond any%. This is now in anymore%. any% = completely new save without any carry-over from another save. anymore% = completely new save but carry-over allowed.

[@Sancarn]

ah interesting, that could be it also :) idk really tbh, in the end it's making a set of rules and seeing how you can exploit them :P

[@tearlach47]

Even if this speedrun was banned from the any% category, it could be its own category, called something like parallel% or something.

[@Sancarn]

+Sean Wilson (Nosliw) Indeed. As long as people enjoy watching it that's all that really matters in my mind :P

[@gerry1888]

"Technically commands blocks executed the commands ... not me" So it'sl ike saying the person who holding a gun who kill someone isn't hte person ... but the gun who killed that person that is one dumb statement to say

[@Sancarn]

Well no it isn't... It's like throwing a ball into the air, which when falling lands on a lever killing someone in another dimension...

[@gerry1888]

Well yes it is... "It's like throwing a ball into the air, when falling lands on a lever killing someone in another dimension"" STILL DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT that YOU did throw it, It's like saying you put thousands of dominoes up, and you decide to let your brother/sister to push the very first domino. Who made all the dominoes fall down? your brother/sister, NOT YOU.

[@iwersonsch5131]

Not during the speedrun. He did not during the run cause those commands to happen.

[@iwersonsch5131]

Like your brother did not during the process of those dominos falling down cause the dominos to fall down. If unsure about that, say he rolled a marble towards the first domino. During the process of those dominos falling down, he did not cause them to do so.

[@gerry1888]

he did throw the marble, but intentionally sent it to a dominos which made it fall. Doesn't change the fact that the brother did caused this, intentionally or not. But i could see this from a point of view that to execute an any% speedrun, there is soem game that require an already existing file to perform a glitch and to complete the run. But beside that ...

[@exploit4ever]

I beat your record in 1.8.9 vanilla client :D

[@Sancarn]

+exploit4ever Nice! Record it :D

[@BaumMiner]

H4ckS! jk :D I actually think the method is legit.. sooo congrats on world record :D

[@Sancarn]

+Baum Miner Woot woot! Glad you enjoyed!

[@KaiCSGO]

+Sancarn What snapshot?

[@ericsbuds]

amazing

[@TrueKyanite]

Plz get a popfilter for your microphone

[@Sancarn]

I haven't made videos in a year and you expect me to buy a pop filter for my microphone? O_o

[@TrueKyanite]

Dude.. They go for like 10$ on Amazon it's not that hard to get :) Here: www.amazon.com/Neewer-Studio-Microphone-Filter-Shield/dp/B00ACFAULC/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1491638263&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=pop+filter&psc=1&smid=A2L2IBCOJNQSLR

[@TrueKyanite]

Dude they go for like 7 dollars on amazon here: www.amazon.com/Neewer-Studio-Microphone-Filter-Shield/dp/B00ACFAULC/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1491638263&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=pop+filter&psc=1&smid=A2L2IBCOJNQSLR

[@Sancarn]

Again, I haven't made videos in *1 year* and you expect me to buy a pop filter for my microphone?

[@toveey1782]

_Good Question._

[@penguindp4379]

Clever.

[@eucalyptux]

Speedrun rules are very variable from a game to an other

[@Sancarn]

+eucalyptux Yeah. From what I can tell it changes normally depending on how much of a difference it makes to time...

[@eucalyptux]

Sancarn for how the time is calculate of course, in speedrun the speedrun community, they will privilege an ingame timer if he is reliable ( wiki.pokemonspeedruns.com/index.php/Game_Time_vs_Real_Time ) and if not, they use the real-time witch start when the player first gains control of the game ( first input frame in TAS ). As for other rules, in general, run can't be setup in advance so you run is probably valid but only in his own categorie "parallel world any%" run.

[@Sancarn]

eucalyptux That's what I'd expect also. Like most other credit warps.

[@TheNoerdy]

Ah I thought you did it in a different method that used something else. Good idea though!

[@Sancarn]

+TheNoerdy1221 "Something else!" ;)

[@TheNoerdy]

+Sancarn what I was thinking of might work but it would not really be Minecraft.

[@richardw2216]

Nice

[@Valtsu0]

si this is game+ speedrun

[@Gudbauc20]

ok first off, this run wouldn't make it to any leaderboard that wasn't handmade by the runner, and seeing as to how one of the massive variables of the run is independent of the game itself, i sincerely doubt the board would be made public. second, even if this run made it to a leaderboard, it would not be able to be made a permenant category since, as mentioned previously, it is near entirely dependant on the hardware of the runner, not their ability to execute the inputs. and for the idea of speedrunning not being communal, i can say without being a direct contributor that the community has been around for close to 4 years, even from the time of this video's upload date.

[@Sancarn]

> "this run wouldn't make it to any leaderboard that wasn't handmade by the runner" I don't see why that'd be the case... > "it is near entirely dependant on the hardware of the runner" Not true at all. The number of gameticks required to execute the run is constant. Sure the amount of "real time that passes" is longer dependant on the hardware, but that's true of any speedrun. For example, the speed at which the nether loads can be anywhere between 3 and 10 seconds on a majority of PCs. I'd therefore expect most speed running mods to not include nether generation time.

[@Gudbauc20]

for the case of leaderboards being handmade, it is simply because of the fact that there is well established categories, all of which have no commands influencing the run, or are only a safety net for marathon runs, such as the all achievements set seed. and the fact of the matter is that any igt timer will still be counting during loading screens, which is what will appear when entering the end, thus unless you want to count the individual frames out of that loading screen this run would have hardware variables be a decent portion of run capability.

[@Sancarn]

Yeah I get that, but the point is, this is still a speed run, and it could be seen as a 'world record', because in the end, it is the fastest way to complete Minecraft. I'm not saying it would or should be on the leaderboards, because frankly I don't give a toss about the leaderboards (and from what I can tell, they don't give a toss about me either!). Minecraft is about having fun, and I have fun by exploiting funky game mechanics. In the end, any speed run is about setting up a basis of rules, and seeing how fast you can finish the game within that ruleset. Some people like stricter rules, and that's absolutely fine! But in the end, that doesn't stop this being any less of a speed run than the guy who uses a game crash glitch to get extra enderpearls... They're just running on different rulesets. This is why glitchless speedruns became a big deal. And it's why pokemon speed runs, where people play the whole game, are still a thing. If someone is looking for the fastest way to complete minecraft, they're likely to look at the speed run community. Unfortunately in this case, they won't find the fastest way to complete minecraft. That's the sad part in my opinion. I was recently curious myself what the fastest way to complete Celeste was (kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZzac5-mfpetfrM). Quite hilarious that that was left in the game imo. Ofc other Speedruns are still impressive ofc... kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4PUpGyQbKZ5l6M. Just because these 'alternative rulesets' exist doesn't make other forms of speedrun not-impressive. They're just different. > The fact of the matter is that any igt timer will still be counting during loading screens. Oh really? That's a bit stupid imo... Speed running is meant to be all about skill... But if that is the case hardware really matters... So that's a bit stupid imo.

[@droliaf]

Hmm... ok. How does it feel to hold a world record?

[@Sancarn]

+dro I feel pretty normal to be honest :P Besides it's as many people keep telling me an "unofficial world record" ^_^ But yeah, quite usual. Actually it feels like it always does when I show something kickass... Like the void crawler! That was epic!

[@sebas-chan5498]

this command in 2 world is glitch yes but using command effect even in another world is kind of cheating and isn't confirmed anyway this way is helpful but not useful...

[@error.418]

it's not cheating, it's any%+

[@mrdeter1212]

*applause*

[@lautarojara8986]

no entend imucho x q hablo español, pero se nota q tienen tiempo libre

[@LapisDemon]

\ö/

[@14zapotokw]

the way he says schedule hurts me

[@error.418]

grats on not being British

[@shirotodoroki6522]

but...t's not glitchless speedrun.'o'

[@Sancarn]

+sue _ ezla Nope, indeed it isn't! ^_^

[@demohstens]

WOW!

[@culpadelagranjadehierro612]

An A press is an A press, you can't say it's only a half. (anyone understanding this joke? No?)

[@umnikos]

The only reason I think your speedrun doesn't count is because you used a snapshot...

[@error.418]

that's well within the rules

[@flaming_ink_sans6116]

isn't that cheating :/

[@cordona_974]

I just finished a video on inter-world redstone, so I'm feeling deja vu. EDIT: It was the one you showed in this video! Coincidence? EDIT 2: Can I add you on skype? EDIT 3: You could use this for dilation in 1.7.10: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZmcpJailt53sNU

[@Sancarn]

+minerguy31 "just finished a video on inter-world redstone" - seriously?! xDD That's intense... xD And yeah true that! We should for sure try to at least do it in 1.7.10... It may be possible in the end! :D

[@cplnerf]

Oooo let's she why we da scrubs!

[@Sancarn]

+cplnerf lol

[@cplnerf]

+Sancarn XD Ooooh Btw I suggest you look into faction servers…you may not like it, but there's DEFINITELY a lot of innovation you could bring.

[@Sancarn]

cplnerf LOL I wonder if this glitch worked from SP to SMP... I doubt it but that would be hilarious... xD As for factions, I may look into it sometime... It depends whether the idea becomes stuck in my mind at all :P

[@cplnerf]

+Sancarn oh you'd love it! Lots of TNT, lots of glitches, lots of teamwork, lots o' fun! You can even use slime missiles to wreck bases! (You can't push into claimed land, but you can pull!) If you do; tell me ;)

[@cplnerf]

+Sancarn what about multiple servers running on the same computer?

[@creepy_squid1090]

Well, I got it right.

[@Sancarn]

+Creepy_Squid Congrats!

[@drithlaneralice4251]

Way to break your own rules, using A second world. Your speedrun should start at the creation of the Command World, since You must be in game to set up your glitch. Impressive, But your run is invalid as per your own rules.

[@oreolamp5676]

The rules mean, that the timer starts when the speedrun world is generated, and the command block world isnt the speedrun world ._.