Check out this and other Eaton Truetrac Differentials at www.summitracin.... From our friends at Eaton - we take a closer look inside the Eaton TrueTrac and see exactly what it is made up of, piece by piece.
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@Dman-jr8ey6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for labeling the bolts. I was unsure about that.
@Fix_It_Again_Tony6 жыл бұрын
They are similar to the worm gears, but they have a place for the wrench to go.
@karlx-14 жыл бұрын
I thought they were french fries.
@solorunner63914 жыл бұрын
Thanks I thought they where hobbit kocks
@Bodgemiester3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, had me flummoxed
@lumberjackdreamer6267 Жыл бұрын
Actually they’re “screws”, not “bolts”
@SummitRacing12 жыл бұрын
They use worm wheel gears that work on the same principle as a worm gear. When the unit is loaded, the worm wheels are forced away from each other and against the case. They develop locking torque by the light friction between the worm wheels and the case. This light friction is multiplied by the ratio of the worm wheel which depends on the size of the worm wheel relative to the size of the side gear.
@SummitRacing12 жыл бұрын
When used in situations like rocky trails where one wheel gets off the ground, the unit will not lock up 100%. Light application of the brakes will help the differential engage more transferring power to the tire that is still on the ground. For extreme situations where the vehicle will have one wheel in the air often a locking differential provides better power transfer to the wheel on the ground.
@charizardxj66533 жыл бұрын
So mine is now locking 50/50 on the black top and won't change when going around corners. And help
@TheBasstead13 жыл бұрын
@@charizardxj6653 It sounds like your pinion bearings are in a bind and will not transfer power. Something is locked up and broken.
@jaydenorcutt56772 жыл бұрын
So for off road applications it’s better to go with a Detroit locker that will just ratchet around corners cause you don’t need the power transfer so this would be better for race car applications where you want as much power to the ground as possible
@christophermoore37855 ай бұрын
To my understanding, new vehicles such as the 2024 Sierra, automatically actively engage the brakes in stock form to provide traction to the opposing wheel. Are these True-tracs suitable for newer vehicles that have this feature? Are there any downsides to applying this the the rear of my Sierra?
@applesbighatranch69063 ай бұрын
@@christophermoore3785 YES. In fact, with E-limited-slip equipped vehicles (mechanically, this is an open diff but with the aid of the vehicle's ABS hardware), the Traction Control software will add a little brake to the spinning wheel, effectively engaging the Truetrac operation. It is perhaps an unforeseen advantage making the Truetrac a perfect candidate for vehicles with such systems.
@HostmorkeCZ7 жыл бұрын
When I had my 01 2wd Yukon with this installed I could drive through most things. Control was superb, would even drive in deep mud. Could get out at idle speeds and both tires would spin in place, hop back in and give throttle. Would push right right out of low traction situations. Also handled the abuse of drifting with ease.
@applesbighatranch69063 ай бұрын
Funny, in a very good way, how the comments posted here by whoever it is at SUMMIT seem to explain the Truetrac's operation, application, limitations and performance within those limitations better than anything I have seen on KZbin so far. Within these comments are nuggets of wisdom, experience and knowledge posted by those folks handling this YT Channel for Summit Racing. Bravo, fellers! Bravo.
@SummitRacing2 ай бұрын
We appreciate your feedback, and we're glad you're finding our content helpful!
@boorion44683 жыл бұрын
Just replaced the stock clutch based LSD in my Jeep with this unit. What a difference in traction. Instant lockup, feels like there's a locker back there and it handles the rain with no weird handling. Tested it out by putting one wheel on pavement and the other in dirt and stomped on it. Jeep took off like I was on pavement with nearly no slip on the dirt side wheel. Amazing unit, quiet too.
@SummitRacing12 жыл бұрын
Eaton Truetrac are designed for medium duty 2WD and 4WD applications. They work well in the front and rear, and are so smooth that there is little or no hint of resistance in the steering wheel when used in front drive steering axles. Like the Gleason Torsen, the Eaton Truetrac does not bang or clunk, has no clutch chatter, does not wear out like clutch type positractions, does not need limited slip additive, and needs no preload or clearance adjustments.
@SummitRacing12 жыл бұрын
The manufacturer can change the amount of torque biasing or lockup by simply changing the diameter of the gears, or the pitch and spiral of the teeth. A larger difference in the size for the worm wheels and side gears (smaller worm wheels and larger side gears) will increase the lockup force. Increasing the pitch and spiral of the teeth will also increase the lockup forces.
@SummitRacing12 жыл бұрын
Like everything, there is a limit as to how much lockup force is reasonable. Making the unit too "aggressive" will cause tire scrub during everyday driving and will cause the unit to wear out too quickly. All of the feedback that I have received from customers indicates that the unit works very well for mud and snow, while going unnoticed during every day driving.
@SummitRacing11 жыл бұрын
Hi xramcam, In a street driven vehicle, about 400-450hp dependably. Thank you for watching!
@RedfishCarolina3 жыл бұрын
I put one of these in the Suburban we take camping and tow our old bass boat with, I absolutely love it. This differential really helps with GREAT traction in the rain and on slippery boat ramps.
@SummitRacing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! We are glad to hear you are happy with your purchase.
@SummitRacing12 жыл бұрын
This type of differential is designed primarily for street and light Off Road operation. It is not designed for continuously abusive situations such as Drag Racing, Truck Pulling or Rock Climbing. Please let us know if you have any additional questions. Thanks for watching!
@SummitRacing12 жыл бұрын
Yes that’s correct, when a wheel slips it engages. Under normal driving & road conditions, this unit will last the life of the vehicle. It is not designed for huge tires, extreme off road or ultra high horsepower. It is designed mainly as an upgraded replacement for factory limited slip differentials.
@nemesis851_4 жыл бұрын
for clarity; what do you consider "huge tires" I would expect upto 40" would be acceptable?
@applesbighatranch69063 ай бұрын
@@nemesis851_ Tire weight being a factor. Imho, 37s may be a practical limit for such a simple device like the TrueTrac. If one is running 40"+ tires, they're usually also upgraded to 1-ton axles or at the very least 3/4-ton components for which there are some outstanding, very beefy, air- or electric-lockers with greater strength.
@scottyperinn11 жыл бұрын
I had one of these(GM 10 bolt, 8 1/2" 3.23), put in my '79 Buick a few years ago. It works great, I went through some deep friggin' snow/ice over Donner Pass with chains on and it handled well, not scary at all. I'm going to put another one in my kids car, maybe a 3.08 : ) Only thing they say is to keep equal tire pressure/diameter and even wear on the back tires.
@hotrodray68025 жыл бұрын
Uneven rear tires will burn out a clutch disc posi too.
@SummitRacing12 жыл бұрын
Only then will the torque transfer occur - when it is needed. As with an open differential, the TrueTrac side (or spider) gears are interconnected by pinion gears, which allow one wheel to slow down or speed up as required. TrueTrac gears have spiral teeth and the pinions are mounted in pockets in the case.
@armanarmadillo Жыл бұрын
Just got this installed in my gmt800 after the original diff gave out at 230k. It's only in the rear as my truck is only 2wd, but coupled with 4.10 gears, she hooks up nice and inspires confidence at speed. Even just today in the rain, nice and composed when it needs to be, wild and fun when it wants to be. Well worth it imo.
@SummitRacing12 жыл бұрын
The machined openings in the case are what positions the gears in place and the gears then free float in this opening.
@Angelum_Band14 жыл бұрын
@gasripper2 That is when you press the brakes to get some traction on both wheels. I know it sounds weird but that's what they teach you in the army to do and it works. The explanation is simple when you brake the light wheel slows down and it forces the locked one to go.
@Icutmetal3 жыл бұрын
I’ve read that these are great for front differential applications in non-hardcore applications. I had Auburns in both ends of an F150, and it would get a little twitchy turning in snow with the hubs locked.
@SummitRacing12 жыл бұрын
Eaton Truetrac are similar in design to the Gleason Torsen(R), only the Truetrac hold up well with reasonably tall tires.
@brianb-p65863 жыл бұрын
There are three types of Torsen differential; this design is specifically that used for the Type-2 Torsen.
@Angelum_Band14 жыл бұрын
@deezynar it's on the older Hummer and military HUMVEE driving manuals somewhere that if you apply the brakes to the spinning tire, it will force some of the torque to transfer to the other side. This is the same thing a limited slip will do, take some of that wasted torque and transfer it to the tire with more grip by providing a certain amount of built-in "braking" action for each axle that simulates traction.
@willywinket3 жыл бұрын
I put one of these in my Jeep and my Bronco. After that, I rarely need to go into 4WD even in snow, sand, mud, etc. at least on level ground. Still need the front wheels for uphill slippery slopes.
@SummitRacing3 жыл бұрын
We appreciate your feedback!
@SummitRacing12 жыл бұрын
Truetrac differentials are unique in that they increase traction but do not affect steering or wear out prematurely; these problems are common with limited-slip differentials that use clutch plates and springs. A TrueTrac performs like a conventional (open) differential, until there is a loss of traction.
@josephastier74214 ай бұрын
This is one heck of a good product for the right application.
@darnhard12 жыл бұрын
just had one fitted to my VE SS best diff ever , smooth , less friction (better fuel economy , more power) and launchs are amazing.
@LB606013 жыл бұрын
@MudBarf I think, basically, that the pinion gears get "locked" in their cups in the carrier, until in a turn the outside wheel over-runs the inner, causing its associated pinion gears to become unloaded and allowed to turn. Probably I'm wrong, but it seems similar to a standard open differential except that under load both axles are locked together unless in a turn.
@bftoler14 жыл бұрын
had one of these units installed in my 02 silverado z71....best thing money i ever spent on it...well besides my vigilante and trans upgrade haha..honestly though, huge difference, posi burnouts, great handling in inclimate weather, good stuff
@HostmorkeCZ7 жыл бұрын
Had the same in my 01 yukon. TCS off, lets say I put it to good use in rain and snow.
@deezynar14 жыл бұрын
@alcram Thanks, that's interesting. Did you have a lot of traction problems with these units. Theoretically, you should be able to take one drive wheel off the vehicle and support the axle on a wheeled dolly and the remaining drive wheel should push you down the road.
@isnowyazn Жыл бұрын
The one in my 2010 Chevy Camaro SS manual coupe, came with a super noisy rear diff at around ~19k miles, despite me changing the gear oil and seeing that it appeared to be decently clean and barely having metallic particles. Maybe the prior owner did the rear diff gear oil change and didn’t use the right weight of gear oil, or maybe forgot to get a formula that included limited slip additive? Cold starts when I first got the car, would have my car turning more than a 1/4 way, to start groaning and clunking. It scared me so much, I’m an idiot for even getting the car. I did my first gear oil change (simple drain and fill) with a semi-synthetic (?) Lucas GL-5 80w-90 gear oil. It supposedly contained “additives”, but nothing that suggested LIMITED SLIP specific additives. It probably meant friction modifiers or some other stuff. Either way, it surprisingly cleared up most of the noise, but was still groaning half as bad during cold starts. The diff would be fine and quiet after reaching optimal temps, which it didn’t before, which also prompted me to believe that someone may have also used a super heavy weight, such as 75w-140. But weren’t these things able to warm up decently? On the dealership test drive, I drove on the freeway for a solid 15-20 minutes, and was also doing a lot of turns and full steering locks around the dealership area during the test drive. Regardless, I stuck to 75w-90 gear oil, but decided to go for a Mobil1 semi-synthetic(?) GL-5 gear oil that contained LS additive already added(‘High Performance’ was the model of the gear oil, I believe). This was my 2nd gear oil change since getting the car and I still didn’t see much metal particles on the magnetic drain and fill plugs for the rear axle differential, but flushing the gear oil probably helped some, as it got to maybe 30-35% as loud as when I got the car. I finally decided to flush it for the final time until this day, which I used the infamous Royal Purple Max Gear 75w-90 that everyone in the Camaro5 community recommends. It comes with LS additive, as well as being a ‘Synchromesh’ specific GL-4+ (GL-4/5) rating, which was safe for yellow metals, such as brass (used for most gearbox synchronizers). Now, this finally got the rear diff to shut up and stay quiet up to a good 10-15% as loud as when I first got the car. However, really cold days (50 F or lower), will have the rear diff groaning just a bit longer (takes longer to warm up probably), but not any more louder! I’m pretty okay now, and dodged a bullet with trying to hassle Chevy to go through the process of trying to work with my rear diff issues, which they did NOT try to address AT ALL whatsoever (that’s a WHOLE other crock of beans…). I may or may not actually try some of the OEM AC Delco gear oil and separate LS additive formula, to see how well it stands up to the aftermarket support products. But as of right now, I don’t plan on adding EXTRA LS additive, like most ppl do to quiet their diffs down, bc I fear of adding too much and having excessive slip that might cause ‘one-wheelers’ with literal straight line driving!!
@tonymiller62552 ай бұрын
I've been putting 1200hp thru a true trac for a few years now, turbo car so there's some lag but it's held up phenomenally
@Savineyard39 жыл бұрын
I have a detroit tt in my 95 z28 camaro from moser who built a 12 bolt for me to get rid of the 10 bolt that i had rebuilt for me 3 times. After the 3rd time breaking the 10 bolt i said screw it and paid the 3 grand. All i said was i wanted the latest and greatest and they suggested and True Trac instead of a clutch pack limited slip differential. I love it. It even has a slight hum to let you know it's tough and ready for abuse. The only problem ive had with my 12 bolt is a right side axle seal leak. So i give a Tru Trac a 10 out of 10.
@jondoe54829 жыл бұрын
From looking at diagrams and pictures of this differential, I have concluded that the torque-biasing works due to the helical nature of the gears. As the input torque increases, the "sun and planetary" gears are forced into the walls of the unit, creating friction and turning the wheel. Whatever wheel has more resistance to movement (taction), therfore receives more horizontal force, resulting in increased friction on the gears, thus the torque bias functions.
@richardwaugh9296 жыл бұрын
Like they said anything over 450 horse. It will start sharding.
@carledward196811 жыл бұрын
Hello Summit i have this Exact one in my 85 chevy Caprice and its been in my car for 2 yrs now and it works really well. i have 3:73 gears also Love it
@BRUNOCMUSIC Жыл бұрын
can I install it in any vehicle? like off roaders, SUVs... sport cars?
@SummitRacing Жыл бұрын
Eaton has tons of options for all sorts of different applications !
@mhubb3120512 жыл бұрын
I have one in a 2007 Mustang GT with a Roush supercharger and 5 speed. Killed the plate posi 1000 miles after installing the supercharger. TrueTrac is the way to go for street use.
@nathansunnaa72225 жыл бұрын
It can handle a lot of horse power you can actually use it on your 1/4 mile racer, it will plant your tires just like a posi.
@alejandroalmeida9356 жыл бұрын
The music took me back to the 90s when street fighter was poppin
@MrTmax746 жыл бұрын
lol
@shelbak654 күн бұрын
In 1982 there was Gleason Torsen Dual Drive ,looks like tru trac borrowed from them . does it work better in a front axle or rear ?thank you
@SummitRacing11 жыл бұрын
Hi Vinman, This should actually be listed as Eaton Detroit TrueTrac Differential. Detroit is owned by Eaton.
@SummitRacing12 жыл бұрын
If one wheel begins to lose traction , the pinions separate slightly from the side gear and wedge in the pockets. As torque increases, the separating force increases, thus slowing or stopping the spin-out. This allows torque to be distributed to the wheel with the best traction.
@richardwaugh9296 жыл бұрын
Like a analogue traction control
@gasripper215 жыл бұрын
I have this unit on my 4X4 F150 and on the really rough stuff I have to apply a little brake to get it to work correctly. I am not sure if I would go with this unit again. I may go with the ARB
@cujbaion111 жыл бұрын
this is torsen diferential in other configuration
@Vladimirization10 жыл бұрын
It's Quaife. Not Torsen. Like Torsen, but not the same.
@c0V3Ro10 жыл бұрын
Vladimirization Quaife isn't a brand? Quaife makes Metal Plates LSD, no? They also make Helical one? I know for sure Mfactory produces nice Helical LSDs.
@flacjacket5 жыл бұрын
Kind of but with the work gears rotated 90* and interfacing directly with each other side to side instead of through additional ring gears. This is simpler and lighter and probably has less parasitic loss than a Torsen.
@cliffcampbell88275 жыл бұрын
@@flacjacket What do mean by "parasitic loss?" I don't have a lot of experience with differentials. Remove fill plug, remove cover bolts, pop cover/empty lubricant, clean internals with suitable solvent, clean gasket mating surfaces, check for damage, replace old gasket with new, line up cover to gasket to diff. housing, torque cover bolts in pattern to specs. fill with new (and very pungent) 80w 90 gearbox oil, replace fill plug, check for leaks. I've done that twice to open diffs.
@JohnSmith-hy1ir5 жыл бұрын
@@Vladimirization this is a more efficient design because it sends power to the wheel with the most resistance rather than the slower turning wheel
@deezynar14 жыл бұрын
@kingkruel123 Actual opposite rotation wouldn't happen in a car, the video is exagerated. This diff won't allow the 2 wheels to rotate at different rates without both of them having traction with the ground. If one wheel loses traction, the slipping wheel will rotate at the same rate as the wheel w/ traction because w/ out traction, it can't rotate its worm gear to let the worm wheel rotate, thereby keeping both axles "locked".
@SummitRacing11 жыл бұрын
Hi Carledward1968, Thank you for sharing your experience with this product! We appreciate your input!
@camgaming31122 жыл бұрын
What is the parts number for the 915a450 pinion gears mine are shattered and just need new pinions
@jordanlongino9 жыл бұрын
gasripper2 sounds like a Ford problem I get 2 tires spinning even if I have one in the air 99.9% of the time I've had one spin a couple times but a little more throttle or stopping and starting again kicked the other one in. I'd have to say they are pretty strong. In my 98 k1500 I blew up 2 factory differentials so I decided to try the trutrac I liked the idea of no clutches or springs and no center pin to break. About 100k miles sense install not one problem and sense then the truck has seen allot of upgrades. Vortec 454 swap 5 speed manual swap and I abuse the hell out of the thing without a single complaint.
@SummitRacing9 жыл бұрын
Jordan Longino , Thank you! We are happy to hear things are working out for you.
@gasripper214 жыл бұрын
@AlvinAZ I had the wrong gear oil in it. I had synthetic and I went to the organic stuff and it works fine now!!!
@MrSlowestD1611 жыл бұрын
Oh...I think i thought about it backwards... Instead of thinking about it from the perspective of the tire that slips, if you look at it from the perspective of the tire with traction: The traction wheel applies resistance to the slip wheel to make it refrain from spinning..that is to say the system as a whole attempts to keep the slipping wheel going the same speed as the traction wheel...that makes a lot more sense...but I feel like you're losing drivetrain power in the resistance force.
@codwalop11 жыл бұрын
are these units going to perform as well for initial straight line grip as a conventional cone type lsd? (i understand neither will outperform a locker), or will it send the torque to the drive wheel and then bias once it loses traction? also with the friction created from the pinion gears while unit is 'locked', generate excess heat?
@VinXLQ112 жыл бұрын
Ok, this is really bothering me. I've watched this 3 times. I understand the gear meshes, I understand how it allows differentiation through the gear movement, and I even understand (pretty sure) what they're trying to explain with the force diagram. What I still don't understand is how any of that gear meshing provides any resistance to the differentiation process. Is it basically by utilizing the friction created by jamming the pinion gears into the side of the pockets? (Fc) in the diagram?
@SummitRacing11 жыл бұрын
importsstillsuck, Anymore power than that; you should consider a Detroit locker differential.
@SummitRacing12 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is correct!
@ag135i5 жыл бұрын
Can I use an eaton auto locking differential in centre and rear and leave the front differential as it is?.
@monolith13375 жыл бұрын
Holy shit this video's music reminds me of the aircraft selection screens from Ace Combat!
@drongojonkins89457 жыл бұрын
Great diffs these. I was kinda sad when it rolled away at the end.
@spencerstroh2333 жыл бұрын
Same here
@GH-oi2jf3 жыл бұрын
Why isn’t there one for a 2nd gen Colorado?
@wlh36404 ай бұрын
The old school cluthc type diffs take more abuse racing than any other. What happens with hard shock loads. The clutch types slip for nano seconds & still live. These others blow into peices.
@lt.frankdrebin33173 жыл бұрын
Looks like more pitching is needed in order to prevent a wheel gear from driving a worm gear.
@pancho02264 жыл бұрын
So basically if you’re going straight it acts like having lockers and when turning it won’t make that’s noise or skip the wheel ?
@xmo552Ай бұрын
and if you brake or e-brake that can help engage it also
@Martin-xb2rz2 жыл бұрын
Would be grateful with an Elocker function like the tru lock from Jeep Rubicon
@vishnusuresh545010 жыл бұрын
video is gooooooooooood but u could have explained its working............
@street_legal_go_kart73564 жыл бұрын
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@xmo5524 жыл бұрын
When the spiral gears push apart, left to right, they push against themselves, the side gears, and the carrier housing. Notice the carrier has round holes where The spirals are, THIS allows the spirals to pass through and touch the case. The friction builds until it almost kind of locks and now you have traction to both sides. It's not perfect. You may have to hold the brakes a bit to induce that friction. Once you have, the power will transfer to the wheel with traction. U.S. Army vehicles runs this system.
@pankero14 жыл бұрын
1:00 and up pretty much explains how it woks
@cameroncubberley84954 жыл бұрын
@@xmo552 The TrueTrac employs a worm gear & worm wheel system and operates under the principal that a worm wheel can turn a worm gear, however, a worm gear cannot turn a worm wheel. When one tire starts to slip its corresponding worm gear is engaged with the corresponding worm wheel. Since the gear cannot turn the wheel it is locked and the torque is then transferred to the opposing worm wheel which turns the worm gear attached to the opposite axle. Thus locking the differential.
@SouthernBrother5 жыл бұрын
Is this the same thing as the S-Trac Differential 35 Spline (Part # N1882) from Strange Engineering?
@byron31765 жыл бұрын
So, where does the drive shaft connect?
@andrewdohrmann59814 жыл бұрын
this device connects inside your pumpkin case to your ring gear which is driven by a smaller gear which connects to the drive shaft outside of the differential housing unit the pumpkin
@HDSHotZ1014 жыл бұрын
I have a Detroit truetrac and I’m having a clunking sound from starting off till like 10 mph and a loud roar while accelerating until I left off. I was wondering if there is a rebuild kit for the locker it self
@SummitRacing4 жыл бұрын
HI Justin, Rebuild parts are available for the Truetrac. We would need to know the exact model number or application your unit is to offer the correct parts.
@scubastevoo84044 жыл бұрын
i have the same issue it slips horribly until it binds up its barely a year old less than 1k miles on it. they are made overseas so im not surprised im pulling it this weekend and putting in a clutched lsd
@DL101ca4 жыл бұрын
What king of oil are you guys using with this ? They recommend non synthetic and no friction modifiers added.
@szili7611 жыл бұрын
It is magic! How does it know? How?
@johnhandley7306 жыл бұрын
Look up a torsen diff same concept
@xmo5524 жыл бұрын
When the spiral gears push apart, left to right, they push against themselves, the side gears, and the carrier housing. Notice the carrier has round holes where The spirals are, THIS allows the spirals to pass through and touch the case. The friction builds until it almost kind of locks and now you have traction to both sides. It's not perfect. You may have to hold the brakes a bit to induce that friction. Once you have, the power will transfer to the wheel with traction. U.S. Army vehicles runs this system.
@Icutmetal3 жыл бұрын
@@johnhandley730 It IS a Torsen differential; not just the same concept.
@applesbighatranch69063 ай бұрын
@@Icutmetal Same concept, but the pinion helicals in a Tor-Sen are 90* different in placement across the unit's side gears.
@lazzer40814 жыл бұрын
So how does this get any posi action? By cranking the planets into the housing walls? Seems like it's going to rip itself up quick. It's an open diff as far as I can tell unless the friction of the planets into the housing is enough to stop them from turning.
@richardwaugh9296 жыл бұрын
lazzer408 It is posi in a straight line.
@SummitRacing12 жыл бұрын
It should weigh approximately 25.95 lbs.
@Mandodiesel20913 жыл бұрын
is this locker puting in a front differential and is it worth buying for hardcore off roading how about if your going up a hill or in the mud and turning the front wheels would it still have a both tires spining at the same time ???
@richardwaugh9296 жыл бұрын
Soft core applications.
@eaxebxecxedx13 жыл бұрын
so basically this differential delivers power to the wheel that has the MOST traction?
@allotoi77777773 жыл бұрын
I had one in my 10 bolt silverado with 35 inches tires, i Split the case in two pretty easy....im going with a full locker detroit now
@Long-nd8bq Жыл бұрын
damn. I'm putting one in my 2000 Z71 in a few weeks with new 4.10 yukon gears. Old open diff is making whining/howling noise when accelerating but quiets up when coasting. Shop is going to put in new bearings, gears, and I asked to upgrade to the truetrac. I'm on stock diameter 32" tires. Might get aftermarket wheels and 33's but that's all the bigger I'll go. I pull a boat, a car trailer, and getting a 6000 lb camper this summer.
@arles8893 жыл бұрын
¿este sirve para suzuki sj 413?
@the1thatgotirwin13 жыл бұрын
those are bolts?
@cybertree9 жыл бұрын
This is a *TORSEN DIFFERENTIAL*. They're basically an *OPEN DIFF* when one wheel has 0% traction (off the ground, slipping on ice, or doing a "burnout" with one tire), so they aren't all that good for OFFROAD or RACING (because you'll lose power to BOTH wheels if one completely slips), but they're awesome for bigger vehicles that know you'll always have SOME grip at least. *Plus they're smooth, bulletproof, and quiet.*
@matthewwhitehead686712 жыл бұрын
so basiclly it kicks in when there is wheel slippage do these true trac last a long time?
@evanpaulsmithfalconfogolin61476 жыл бұрын
does using a differential of this design eliminate the need for c clips?
@d1oftwins6 жыл бұрын
I saw two diff exchange videos with this type of true tracks and the answer is NO!
@trucksguns68988 жыл бұрын
so the side gears jam the pinion gears into the pockets and the friction of the pinion gears cutting into the case make this thing work.. this thing would wear out pretty fast
@hudsondonnell4446 жыл бұрын
I don't know about it wearing out faster than a wet clutch plate system. However, you will have to replace the diff fluids more often.
@SidewaysGts11 жыл бұрын
I know entirely that im nitpicking, but shouldnt the answer be more concerned with torque, than power? 400 hp from an na v8 is a different ball game than 400 hp from a turbo charged diesel engine. Just saying. Great product, LOVE this video. Its fascinating to see whats actually going on inside.
@richardwaugh9296 жыл бұрын
There idea is probably off of power band of engine. Diesels make horse power low to high steady. But torque is made low to mid because they are low rpm naturally. I would have the same question.
@dahaproject34985 жыл бұрын
it can fit to hilux 2wd varian? I have plan to install rear differencial
@blackriflex393 жыл бұрын
are the 31 spline versions four helical gear or do they all have six?
@jamesfarmer27484 жыл бұрын
Why are they so much more expensive on the 14 bolt 9.5 axle?
@gasripper215 жыл бұрын
I have this unit on my F150 and when I get into some steep stuff only the wheel with the lightest load spins. I have tried applying some brake but it does nothing. I am not really happy with this unit.
@davidcraft49095 жыл бұрын
does anyone know where to get this type or style of diff for a 1987 Suzuki samurai (sj413) . I can't find any models for a samurai on the eaton website, and I hear rumors about the Russian made ones but I only see listings for like new trackers and vitaras, I found a brazil made torsen diff but the website doesn't work right and I can't see how to buy one, or anything.
@scubastevoo84044 жыл бұрын
you can find a lincoln locker for that
@moejr142 жыл бұрын
I just had one installed and it’s doing a lot of clicking on hard turns. Do ya think something may be wrong with the unit or the gear setup? I also just put a cheap STP 80-90 gear oil for the break in, should I put something different?
@Long-nd8bq Жыл бұрын
did you get it figured out? I am getting one installed in my truck later this month once the differential shop can get my truck in on the 22nd.
@moejr14 Жыл бұрын
@@Long-nd8bq yes, I figured it out. It’s not the Detroit true track. It was the cheap gear oil. All I did was change to Lucas 7590 gear oil and it solve that problem. It was so weird but when I drained the cheap STP fluid it came out like water. It was so thin. I think the clutches/worm gears were binding because of lack of lubrication.
@adityajoshi88269 жыл бұрын
is it suitable for motorsports?? what is the weight of differential assembly only without the connecting shafts
@SummitRacing9 жыл бұрын
aditya joshi, Yes, it is suitable for Motorsports and the weight varies on the application.
@cliffcampbell88275 жыл бұрын
Are we talking Baja 1000 kinda motorsports or something a little less grueling?
@conquest5624 жыл бұрын
Can these Tru Tracs handle 44" boggers on a sterling 10.25 rear and dana 60 front? 87 F350
@SummitRacing3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that wouldn't be any issue with the Trutrac.
@jacksparrow44146 жыл бұрын
How good are these for 4x4 trucks?
@samuelsaady99093 жыл бұрын
Can this handle towing and if so, to what capacity?
@vasta068185913 жыл бұрын
so with this diff what happend is both wheels have the most traction, will i be able to do 2 wheel burnouts with it??
@richardwaugh9296 жыл бұрын
Yes. A limited diff will spin the one with the least traction.
@dannyeddy317810 жыл бұрын
I currently have this unit in my '05 Mustang GT. My engine puts out 392rwhp (460hp flywheel). I'm thinking of supercharging my setup and will have around 680-700rwhp. Am I going to grenade the Truetrac? I use the car 70% street use and 30% road course. No drag racing in my future, which is where I understand they are most likely to explode.
@SummitRacing10 жыл бұрын
Hi Danny Eddy, You’re correct, usage of slicks at the drag strip and dumping the clutch (shock loading) is where these units get into trouble. With your usage, you’ll be fine!
@dannukesem10 жыл бұрын
Summit Racing When will you guys have one available for the Toyota Tacoma newer models ? Seems like there would be a great demand for it.
@ma1ichite8 жыл бұрын
Nope, you will grenade that ford motor though :)
@347chas12 жыл бұрын
Love the music....is it Tangerine Dream?,
@DeliciousDeBlair6 жыл бұрын
I must have missed something...seemed to work just like a normal transaxle... ~( ,m,)~
@TMVC1646 жыл бұрын
Agree with you, This VDO Don’t explained how it’s lock.
@cliffcampbell88275 жыл бұрын
A worm gear can turn a ring gear but not the other way around. That's where the "lock" happens. 6 worm gears (offset) triangle positions on two ring gears. When one of the ring gears starts rotating faster than the other, that ring gear transfers power to one set of worm gears (no turning), to the other set of worm gears (no turning), to the other ring gear. I don't think I'm explaining very well. Look: open, limited slip and locking differentials. All three have their positives and negatives. It really depends on the type of performance you're looking for.
@MatthewSmith-to1hz4 жыл бұрын
Trans axels are for front wheel drive vehicles
@ericl2969 Жыл бұрын
@@cliffcampbell8827 It's a difficult concept to explain, but you did just just fine. You seem to be almost the only person who is commenting who understands how these things work. There's lots of nonsense posted by other commenters. It works exactly on the principle that you describe, resisting wheel slip because of the "upstream versus downstream" contrast in causing the differential gears to spin. The differential action happens effortlessly when rounding corners because applying torque to the worm gear easily causes the spur gear to spin, but making the worm gear spin by applying torque to the spur gear requires far more effort. The first situation results when rounding corners, and the second situation results when one wheel has less traction. The comparison is roughly analogous to being on the operating end or the working end of a crowbar. Therefore, unlike what so many other commenters are saying, this unit does NOT rely on the worm gears being wedged into their pockets and creating end-wise thrust friction (so they are NOT prone to friction wear as some are claiming). And it does NOT only function when going in a straight line but not when turning (it functions the same when turning. All it needs to function is input torque and resistance torque at at least one wheel. People seem to confuse the output rotation speeds shown in the diagram with torque, but those two aspects are not the same).
@wipatriot5103 жыл бұрын
These are GREAT in front diffs...
@SummitRacing3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@AlexanderA8015 жыл бұрын
Best animation about TrueTrac. It will be great if you add real demonstration on some car.
@sididodol58549 жыл бұрын
What would happen if i use a brake bias n lock one of the rear wheels to do a drift u turn on a mud? Scared it still apply for to those jammed wheel and break the shaft...
@SummitRacing8 жыл бұрын
+Along Nayan , Well, that is certainly not how this unit is designed to be used so, it will likely shorten the life of the unit at the very least!
@xramcam11 жыл бұрын
About what kind of horsepower can the True Trac take?
@sakda35714 жыл бұрын
Very good animation.
@Ken197009 жыл бұрын
what is the torque bias of the Eaton truetrac vs the Detroit truetrac? I know Eaton owns the Detroit brand but are the two built the same?
@SummitRacing9 жыл бұрын
+Ken MacMillan , Yes, they are the same unit!
@Ken197009 жыл бұрын
Summit Racing that's what I thought. Are they T1 torsens or T2?
@igostupidfast39 жыл бұрын
+Ken MacMillan t2 i think
@Ken197007 жыл бұрын
Neither actually. It's a different design on the same principle.
@alexlo77088 жыл бұрын
It's more compact and less resistant friction than Torsen.
@Munky33213 жыл бұрын
@garciaarmando12 this is a geared LSD, not really the same as the locker you might be thinking of. While OK for offroading, a true locker would be better.
@cliffcampbell88275 жыл бұрын
I'd think a locker would be great on heavy duty solid axles for slow technical climbing types of terrain and this diff. is more for the smoother, high speed stuff like what the stadium/trophy trucks do.
@ericohman7 жыл бұрын
Do you have to time the gears för this type of unit. I have seen the other type (torsen--1 or A) where the gears have markings and installs in a specific way. If yes on timing torsen type 2. Could you explain why, cause I can't see how it would make a difference :)