Exploring a Drained Canal Lock

The Canals and Rivers Trust had drained Deansgate locks on the Rochdale Canal in Manchester. At the start of the Bridgewater Canal. The public were allowed to do some urban exploring in the drained Locks for two days only. This is the short video I made. Music By martin

[@syxs621]

I can’t believe they didn’t clean it while it was drained, absolutely mad

[@madshagger8371]

Sy Xs I totally agree. Clean the whole thing out and create a healthy environment for the fish etc. if it’s a nice clean waterway, kids might go fishing etc instead of playing video games getting fatter and fatter.

[@corin164]

I guess that if it wasn't enough in the budget to replace the gates, there definitely not enough to clean up all the crap out of the canal.

[@lisapincott1414]

If it's clean people would still put crap in it, they always do

[@lisapincott1414]

It annoys me more that people have to keep clearing, cleaning litter that other people can't put into bin.

[@lordthomastravis1617]

Also it might lower the signal Cray fish population!

[@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123]

Gosh I would want to get down in there and look for cool stuff !! I live in the USA and when I go tubing down a river I bring my snorkel and goggles, I find old bottles, keys, sunglasses and a wallet with money and cards.....happily found the owner as it had only been in the river for 1 year ! So having a dry river canal with such history to explore would be amazing !

[@ValeriePallaoro]

That actors doing his bit (0:20 and then again from 8:40) to get across to us the feeling and worth of the 1800s, absolutely fabulous. It's lovely that there are people who recognise living history works so well to give us insights into the past. Thanks for editing them in Martin Zero

[@AnonAnonAnon]

Great video, again. Bringing history to life. What annoys me though is, money wasted on vanity projects by this and other governments and councils which could be used to dredge the whole of the canal system around the city centre. When I read that a couple of million was used on a bronze statue for a politician no one has ever heard of I think, money wasted. Dredged and clean canals would enhance the whole area. They stunk this summer in the heatwave.

[@MartinZero]

Hello thanks very much. It was amazing walking through those Locks plus the little play they put on

[@hyperflowfans]

I don't ever comment on videos but I have to say this content is so cool man. The history that they tell is truly amazing.

[@jilly5909]

Thank you so much for making this video, so informative and fascinating. I really enjoy your enthusiasm!!

[@wladniem]

my grandad was a canal boatman and would have traveled on this canal often, thanx Martin

[@MartinZero]

Great stuff Nina thank you 👍

[@tonytucker5266]

I can't get my head around how a bit of scaffold and tarpaulin can literally hold back millions of gallons of water like that.

[@fluxington]

From my basic physics knowledge, it's the height (or head) of water that creates the pressure - not the amount or volume. For example, 100 litres of liquid in a vessel 10 meters high would produce the same pressure as 100000 litres of liquid in the same vessel, but more pressure than any amount of liquid in a vessel that was only 1 meter in height.

[@mountainman5025]

It's not a tarp, it's a high tensile barricade used to hold back flood waters.

[@brianfox1980]

Yes I went down there as well god we know how to dump rubbish in the canal lol another good film Martin

[@MartinZero]

Hi Brian, What day was you there ? I went on the Sunday

[@manc7808]

Another great Video Martin, thanks and keep up the good work

[@MartinZero]

Hello, Thanks very much 👍

[@lordthomastravis1617]

Ekki is red colour and hard as bell metal !! Used like Teak! .my Dad was in charge of the West bridgeford bridge repairs!. Used ekki as replaced foot ways! I have a bag of offcuts! I use for knife handles in my custom blades ! Its beautiful material!

[@sharonstuebi8181]

I look forward all week to my Sunday lunch watching your videos. Always a pleasure! Your fan from Peru

[@MartinZero]

Hi Sharon thanks very much

[@dieselmanmike]

Your face Martin when the volunteer was telling you about the shaft down to the Tib. It fascinates me too especially when it’s opened the normally sedate Tib must really roar with that lot falling 20ft ! Great videos.

[@maryrobins8246]

You're amazing!!! I smile all the way through your vids. I live in Cornwall but I'm a Manc through and through. Keep going lad. You're doing a fantastic job!!! 😀

[@jayd1974]

Interesting video.Fairplay to da fellas who dig out da canals 200 years ago some men👍👍

[@jimmyviaductophilelawley5587]

Hi Martin....wow can't believe this is nearly five years ago! This was the first video of yours I ever watched and have really enjoyed watching your journeys of discovery. I notice you're creeping ever closer to that magic 100k subs mark....can I just say well done for not succumbing to what must be good offers for sponsorship. I presume one day someone will wave a cheque at you that big you'd be mad to say no until then thankyou .

[@nancyhiler7389]

Interesting to learn about the different marks on the bricks. Lots of stuff in the canal. Great video. Thanks for sharing.

[@steve30b]

Brilliant information Martin. Thanks a lot..

[@MartinZero]

Thanks Steve. Hope your well 👍

[@bigadefourfiveonezeroseven4063]

Just came across your vids ...love old railway lines...keep the good work up ...very enjoyable 👍

[@martinmarsola6477]

An interesting video today, Martin. Definitely a great video! Cheers Martin!

[@ianburr1177]

Thanks for sharing your series of clips with us.. fascinating. I live in Birmingham, another City full of canals. You have sparked an interest in me and I fully intend to investigate the canals and hidden watercourses of 'Brum',

[@gazbradster]

Another fascinating look at Manchester Martin, Really enjoying all your videos :-)

[@MartinZero]

Gary Bradbury Hi Gary Cheers. Draining that Lock was an opportunity not to be missed 👍

[@lisab3396]

The lock and canal system is absolutely fantastic. I love watching the video's on various canal boats plying the canals. I for one would have loved to volunteer to clean out those locks.

[@MartinZero]

Thanks Lisa

[@bluazur55]

I took a canal boat trip around the UK back in the '70s and I remember going through Manchester. I'm fairly certain we docked at the spot in 8:43 for the night. Great video.

[@MartinZero]

Thanks very much, great stuff 👍

[@spottyskunk1898]

Love the use of the footage of historical reenactors to put the canal into context for what it was for initially.

[@MartinZero]

Hello yes, It was a little play they put on for us. It lasted longer but I had to cut it down 👍

[@MyCatInABox]

This was a very interesting video.....good stuff!

[@samholdsworth3957]

What a fascinating and entertaining video! Thanks

[@MartinZero]

Thank you Sam 👍

[@dalehorne9815]

Start of the video made me laugh. The first Earl but quite a recent bike in the background. Back to future in Manchester lol. Great video though 😀

[@nuvostef]

The lad talking about the African wood is...quite attractive! 😄😉 Thank you for the fascinating story! 🤙🏼

[@MrNowplease]

Another great informative video Martin! Excellent work matey.

[@MartinZero]

Hi, Neil. thanks a lot mate 😀

[@sairaqsa]

Thank u Martin 4 this video, I hope that the Manchester authority do their best 2 keep it clean.

[@ratbagkennedy]

This came up in my recommended so I clicked on it as it reminded me when I spent a good twenty minutes looking around a drained canal in Manchester a few years ago. Turns out the canal is the same one at around the same time! Amazing video, subscribed 😊

[@toysandgameswithesmeeandis4096]

What a fantastic video. Great channel too mate. Keep it up. Today's kids need this kind of education. Cliff.

[@andrewschmitz9707]

I love seeing all the work that went into what so often people just walk by. On a good note,the public genuinely seemed to be showing interest.

[@antonclark3420]

Brilliantly produced and interesting...

[@MartinZero]

Thank you Anton much appreciated

[@sarahstrong7174]

Thankyou for sharing this video. Very informative.

[@MartinZero]

Thanks Sarah

[@harrowtiger]

Excellent video, thankyou.

[@AnEnglishmanInNewYork71]

I was born and grew up in Manchester. I live in the US now but as a little kid, I used to imagine what would be in there. Thanks for the video!

[@MartinZero]

Thanks Lee 👍

[@sinubiochex]

Liked so much!! Just had to translate, the whole video, into brazilian portuguese, amazing!!! CC in PT-BR. Thanks for the video Martin!!

[@ronniezzzz]

cant believe they wont clean out the mess

[@MartinZero]

I know its a bloody shame 😦

[@raphlvlogs271]

They didn't figured out a safe effective way to do so.

[@voidofspaceandtime4684]

@@raphlvlogs271 How?

[@mikeede49]

Another good video,keep them coming.Best wishes from a fellow moocher.

[@MartinZero]

Mike Ede Hi Mike thanks a lot. More mooching to come 👍

[@lisab3396]

A basic but fantastic approach and look at the canal system. But I had to go back and look at the section 8:45 and think how beautiful this is! Just soo much history and richness in this!

[@MartinZero]

Lisa, Thank you very much. I am not an expert on canals just a very enthusiastic and interested party so this is just my take on this wonderful day. Thanks for watching, hope you like my other videos 😀

[@ohbobpleez]

I liked the info on Masons Marks and how they get paid.

[@MartinZero]

Yeah me too, I would overlooked those marks but so glad I learned what they were 👍

[@StevenRides]

I read this comment as i went past the part. It's very interesting.

[@ralphthebulldog5163]

Thought you meant the Freemasons 😆

[@Nathan.Manchester]

Great job again keep up the good work - it’s a shame they didn’t clean it imagine what visitors to our city think when they see the rubbish floating in the Canal?👍👍

[@MartinZero]

Yeah its a great shame they didn't have the budget to clean it as well

[@manc7808]

ManchesterDrone Every canal in thd world will be exactly the same, I watched a video ages ago where they drained a canal in Paris to clean it, they found motorbikes and all sorts.

[@schirmeyerb]

@@manc7808 I live in PARIS...if I remember well..they had empty (canal Saint martin)......and they had take out... (weels...engine..motorcycles probably stolen..caddies..ect.....)...it should be compulsory to clean all inside..

[@lesliebarnes8407]

you wanna see some of the rivers and canals out in s e asia!! the rubbish in them is uneal!!

[@steveooooo4423]

You rock,, great to watch 👍thank you 😊

[@MartinZero]

Cheers Steve

[@MrBigblock427]

fantastic. cannot say any more than keep it coming

[@MartinZero]

Thank you Jon much appreciate 😃

[@benking9503]

They should let self employed scrap metal collectors go in there and take what they can, since they don't want to spend the money to clear it themselves, and it's a shame we can't track down the people responsible for throwing rubbish in there and then dredge it and dump it on the driveways of the perpetrators to see how they like it!

[@ardkoreable]

how the fuck would you track someone that dumped a STOLEN bike or umbrella in??tell me inspector sherlock holmes lol

[@Tocsin-Bang]

@@ardkoreable Sherlock Holmes was a "consulting private detective" to quote his amanuensis Dr. John Watson, hence he was not a police inspector.

[@DG-mv6zw]

Stephen Cook Kudos to you, mate. Sherlock would've been proud of you. It seems the logical reasoning of Kenny Clauw is as bad as his punctuation and grammar! 😃

[@ardkoreable]

@@DG-mv6zw come one have a try in dutch or french and lets see if your grammar is 100% oh yea right you only know 2 words

[@ardkoreable]

@Bradius Maximus and like they would something leave in the handbag before dumping it in the canal and i dont think the victim has anything back then thats in a good condition

[@chewy5563]

Well I've learn something new today. Very interesting video, Well presented

[@MartinZero]

Thanks very much 👍

[@merledoughty5787]

Hello Martin from down under in Kiwi land. I must say I enjoy watching your videos and where you go. What strikes me is that much of the hidden world under the brambles etc where it is not cleared away, I keep thinking this man needs a machete or at best a battery line strimmer those places are gems, I love it would be doing this sort of thing at an instant if I lived in the UK, so much old Victorian Archietecture and I think of those men that built those bridges and tunnels and all that brick work, are these places under some sort of care like buildings. I enjoyed the look at Clifton Collery amazed that that to is left to the wild, that big basin should be cleared of scrub, watching your videos I am truly in awe of what went on in the building of Britain and to see the canal where the Duke of Bridgewater got the coal from, those children to, A big thanks for such interesting topics.

[@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS]

My word. So interesting. Thank you

[@MartinZero]

Thank you much appreciated 👍

[@karina-jx4zv]

It's brilliant when you are able to find someone who has some knowledge of the cannels

[@phuckz2032]

Good vid. Loving the channel. 👍👍

[@MartinZero]

Thanks 😃 👍

[@raymondj8768]

another great video ! you do really good work dude keep it up !

[@MartinZero]

Raymond thanks very much 👍

[@mrlister2000]

How did I miss this video? I know I'm nearly 5 years late with this comment, but after watching your video and the response from the Canals & Rivers Trust, all I can say is typical. Here was an ideal opportunity to clean that long stretch of waterway, get rid of the silt that has built up and do a bit of good for the environment by removing scrap metal that actually pollute the canal system. But no, it costs too much blah blah blah. The money that could've been made from the scrap metal would've paid for the clean up operation. This was an excellent video Martin, and I apologise for not watching it sooner!

[@guillaumeklimczak7563]

Fantastic video, loved it

[@MartinZero]

Thank you 😊

[@IceDaemon]

That looks quite awesome.

[@darrenscaysbrook6038]

Great vid and now I'm more knowledgeable. Cheers.

[@MartinZero]

Thanks Darren much appreciated

[@hasenpfefer7]

Yes all the fish have been "moved" plot twist: no fish to begin with.

[@MartinZero]

There are some fish in there. People fish along its length 👍

[@markcoyle5648]

The easterns are decimating uk fish stocks at an alarming rate. No catch and release for those people, they will eat anything that is free.

[@johnortmann3098]

@@MartinZero What species of fish?

[@solatiumz]

@@johnortmann3098 blog.fishtec.co.uk/beginners-guide-to-canal-fishing

[@MartinZero]

@@johnortmann3098 Not sure John. Not really an expert. I definitely imagine there will be Pike

[@littletraveller5428]

This is British engineering to be proud of.

[@peteon4wheels627]

Some of the best in the world mate.

[@jaycee7594]

Fascinating fella! Subscribed!

[@MartinZero]

Thank you much appreciated 👍

[@garrystacey7018]

Interesting video thanks for sharing 👍🏻

[@terryansell6641]

Very interesting as usual thank you from N.Z.

[@riverhuntingdon6659]

It'd be messy to clear all that junk, but at least the muddy stuff could be purged down those old drain holes you mention, using one of those pumps and canal water from behind the work area. The metal stuff could then be picked up by a crane with a magnet, the ally cans saved, and the rubbish that remained'd be a smallish fraction of what you see, so not too expensive to dump. Another great video from you too. Subscribed and bell clicked.

[@MartinZero]

Hello, I do wish they had cleaned it up. many thanks for Subscribing 👍

[@spencerwilton5831]

River Huntingdon Where do you think those drain holes go? Down into a river, that's where. Flush everything down them and you're simply moving the problem. The waste needs digging out and dumping, but the cost would be enormous.

[@christophernorton33]

The canal & river trust slipped up big time by not cleaning out lock 90 at Deansgate. Great video Martin.

[@grovermatic]

I've got some friends who are in the midst of the paperwork to move from here in the US to go live on a house/canal boat in England. Maybe one day I'll be able to visit and travel your fantastic locks. :-)

[@MartinZero]

That sounds nice, I quite like the idea

[@boyracer1213]

another great vid martin 👍

[@MartinZero]

Thanks very much. Pity about all that rubbish eh

[@kevinparkin5438]

Hi martin I've just watched your video on the 200 year old trap door really was interesting fantastic how the wood looked after all the years under water see that you didn't like the pike much so all i can say about that is on your pike another great video all the best kevin ps last time you sent me a reply you said that I would like to explore the under ground tunnel under the iron works and i probably would see you later

[@waynewilliams3380]

I enjoy these history clips.

[@MartinZero]

Thanks Wayne

[@covcarpenter9158]

Hi mate these vids are awsome keep on exploring. Id love to join you lol

[@RingwayManchester]

Another belter mate, loved it. Very interesting stuff. Nice to have answers on the tib trapdoor. I noticed Tib Lock 89 on the sign behind that guy near the end too! I wonder if they'll clean all that rubbish out?

[@MartinZero]

No They haven't got the money to Dredge and dump all the rubbish. Should have seen all the glasses from the Bars above !!!

[@louisemissouri4410]

Sad that the community couldn't get together and clean the canal with the authorities paying for the dumpsters to remove it.

[@corin164]

I think it might have something to do with liability insurance if someone one was hurt or killed during the clean-up.

[@nevillemason6791]

The authorities couldn't pay for dumpsters as we don't have any named such thing. We only have skips (which you might find are the same thing!).

[@soniahamilton9914]

Thank you Martín. I took your advice and just browsing through picking whatever takes my fancy.

[@MartinZero]

Great Sonia hope you enjoy 😊

[@jonesfactor9]

Hopefully seeing all that garbage discourages people from tossing their trash

[@AbrasionUK]

Interesting video Martin. Cheers.

[@MartinZero]

Thanks David

[@joshurrr]

They should consider using Australian iron bark for the gates, we build jetty’s and piers out of it and some are 100 years old in salt water too.

[@adambrown2626]

Spot on Josh, Aussie Ironbark or blackbutt would sort the problem..

[@clyth41]

Ekki Wood.... Ekki thump... X

[@TheRattleSnake3145]

Interesting video!

[@peteb2]

Absolutely incredible these silly POMS would go to the cost of fixing the lockgates after draining the canal section but not take the opportunity to remove all the toxic filth, muck and junk dumped in it.

[@vmm5163]

We're all silly billies here

[@spencers4121]

There job if I'm not mistaken is keeping the locks operational. They run on a limited budget, nothing to due with the government.

[@TheDoosh79]

We have no money, basically. Silly or not, things don't get done for free.

[@stevelomas4119]

@peteb2 Perhaps we should have got convicted criminals to do it ? Oh...we can't...they're all in Australia.

[@davepickering997]

Ekki thump! Great Video.

[@MartinZero]

Cheers Dave

[@MidnightVisions]

They couldn't even be bothered with picking up the big garbage, like the bicycle or umbrella? So much for the Canal & River "Trust",,, more like Canal & River "Turn-A-Blind-Eye" [EDIT] They are going through the effort to drain a lock section, and no matter how you look at it, that is the time to clean it out, even if its just the big stuff. Even if the trust doesn't have the manpower to do it themselves, There must be local volunteer groups or the Canal community themselves that would volunteer to help pick up the big stuff themselves. There is zero reason why the local city would not supply a dumpster bin or recycling bins for glass, metal, etc for this purpose! Has anybody even asked?

[@xxyxnxwxaxx9724]

There is that many miles of kanal and damaged locks and top and bottom gates the trust are fighting a losing battle. There simple isn't enough joiners. There is only a short amount of time the locks are shut down in the wintter months maybe in this period I would got top and bottom gates fitted if they made the budget to allow that. That would been very rare. It's just pathetic. Same as the roads really. Just on the canals it's more noticeable and I can understand the frustration of the boaters as they pay for the upkeep but pure and simple it's a fight against a losing battle. A lot more things can be done better. Meetings dont mean nothin as points that are valid dont go to the top. Big money spinning organisation.

[@gingervirus2988]

When it comes to “cant be bothered”, why not direct your bile at the lazy, filthy bastards who dump the shit in the canal in the first place!

[@sinista6536]

Dunc Livingstone Because that goes without saying and is obvious. As should be removal of the obvious large items, but clearly not

[@michaeldutsonlandscapephot2184]

Very interesting Martin. I've been past this so many times. I don't know where you get your info from, but I do find it fascinating. Keep it up.

[@MartinZero]

Hi mate it was just an open weekend saw it advertised. Really glad I went though 👍

[@Jason52597]

Great video Martin

[@MartinZero]

Jason thank you 👍😃

[@russellcook4792]

That's how it looks under the water everywhere there are boats, in Houston TX a diving company that I worked for as a welder got the contract to remove a bunch of cars from the canals and the divers said there were hundreds of cars in the canals and the city of Houston eventually gave up because it cost to much time and money to remove them all and they are still there

[@TheDalekwidow]

Another great video Martin!. Shame there was so much debris in there and what a missed opportunity to clear it out... Had the gates been replaced, its very likely they would have been made in our village (Stanley, Wakefield). I went on a tour of the site a couple of years ago and it was fascinating . I learned that my address has a canal connection - being named after a now filled-in lock which I knew nothing about! Keep up the brilliant work - I'm learning more about Manchester with every video you produce. I have no connection to the city but I am hooked to its history!

[@MartinZero]

Hi Thanks very much. Is that place like a big carpenters workshop ? Is that where your from Wakefield ?

[@TheDalekwidow]

I have lived in Wakefield since 1988 and yes, its a huge site- alongside the Calder and Hebble Canal (Stanley Ferry Workshop). There are dry docks on site where repairs to "Tom Puddings" were made - these being the tubs loaded with coal which were boat hauled from local mines to the power stations in our area. Long since phased out of course.....

[@MartinZero]

'Tom Puddings' Brilliant 😃👌

[@Themancs979]

Martin, fantastic videos, and well produced. Love the history of Manchester (my home city) and every time we’re in town, we walk around Deansgate locks. I’m fascinated with underground Manchester. What you doing next, and can we see you filming?

[@MartinZero]

Hi Steve, Thanks very much. Ive been out again today dodging the hail and rain. Next video is probably an Urban adventure around east Manchester 👍

[@duncanhowarth9514]

I came across your videos recently and find them very interesting, what with being a Manc lad myself. Bit of news that you might not have seen yet; A stretch of the Caledonian Canal has been drained out at Fort Augustus while they replace the lock gates. While it is drained they have opened it to the public. The story is on todays (10.03.2019) BBC online news. Just so you know.

[@paulhunter123]

this is what people in prison should be doing cleaning out canals, not playing playstation smoking crack

[@paulhunter123]

@@tomsparey176 you think they dont have drugs in prison?

[@melbournetransport8987]

Yeah playing PlayStation and smoking crack is for us law abiding citizens on the outside

[@nicholasthornley9708]

Wouldn't it be better to help prisoners get new skills? Why not teach them to read and write and do basic maths?

[@thekrunkymonkey]

You could pay people to do it instead and then your country's unemployment rate might be lower & you might have fewer prisoners in the first place.

[@rerun3283]

People in prison should be making KZbin videos about canals in Manchester? Sounds like a solid plan.

[@BelowLA]

Great video. The history is so dope.im so unfamiliar with the UK

[@MartinZero]

Cheers thank you

[@DVincentW]

Stunned fish. Like "...stunned from soup. Your knees will buckle!"

[@paulbetka2966]

👍🏻🙏 so freaking interesting.

[@watomb]

They spent so much money on that scaffolding. Skid steer with excavator could have clean that lock up in an hour or two. Great video

[@dazzab111]

Love it! Proper Manc! From a Manc!

[@MartinZero]

Cheers Darren 😃👍

[@tombarr9430]

Least they could do is clean it out first...disgusting!!!

[@MartinZero]

It sure is 👍

[@rjk69]

Are you offering to pay Tom?

[@agentbertram4769]

I am surprised that they didn't dig out the locks and dump the waste somewhere appropriate. Cost is always a problem. The loch looks to be completely full of debris right up to the scaffold walkway. Can you explain what depth of water there is after the renovation? Thanks.

[@islaws4589]

Great vid 👍 I live near Newton For Hyde train station & there is a stone retaining wall there for what I think was a goods yard & shed. I’ve always wondered what the symbols carved into the stone blocks meant!

[@MartinZero]

Hello, Really, They are in that wall also ? It must have been quite a common practice maybe ?

[@mrkangaroo83]

It is interesting that this has popped up today for me, I'd walked along the Bridgewater Canal from Stretford to Castlefield to visit the National Trust's Castlefield Viaduct. Afterwards, I'd carried onto New Islington Marina and back down to the Rochdale canal to Castlefield.

[@davidroberts9477]

Great videos

[@MartinZero]

Thanks David

[@rozbeaumont]

Hi Martin Blimey look at all that stuff

[@martinfitzpatrick1551]

Im always photographing the marks on stone, they fascinate me . I recently bought a book on Stone walls their history and styles.

[@MartinZero]

That would make a good video

[@nigelkendall5892]

I've noticed marks on stone buildings and often wondered what they were for, didn't realize they had a book about this subject

[@GOLDSMITHEXILE]

sometimes marks carved on stones is where the masons used a pincer hook and chains to haul them up into place. The 2 pincer points sit in little recesses either side of the stone block. You can lift a big weight of stone without needing anything under the stone so it can lay on the mortar undisturbed. I once studied a stone viaduct where every stone had them, some stones were half a ton or more @@nigelkendall5892

[@vmm5163]

I scrutinize OS maps for what remains of benchmarks. A lot of the old stone gateposts with them on are no longer there. Most on buildings are there though. If I feel I won't get run over I do a rubbing of them on paper and photograph them, but it's dangerous on some lanes. Plus, they're just at the height a dog pees so sometimes a photo is all I will do unfortunately!

[@landenschooler6726]

Just wondering, how deep is the silt, mud and muck to the real bottom of the canal? Surely some one poked a rod or stick to measure?

[@thatfeeble-mindedboy]

What were the trap doors and vertical shafts for ? Imagine the union labor required to clean up a site that MIGHT have toxic substances in it; imagine the paperwork that has to be filled out and fees to be paid regarding the environmental impact of moving such a volume of “potentially toxic” material through a populated area; imagine the cost of a permit to dump this material anywhere except possibly the open sea. It could be that the sheer cost of meeting such requirements, finding someone that would write liability insurance for such an undertaking simply made it undoable. Environmental fanaticism shoots itself in the foot.

[@MartinZero]

Hi Kenneth sorry we were talking about the River Tib that runs under the canal