Exploring the Foggy Sudoku Prison!!

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Cracking The Cryptic

Cracking The Cryptic

Күн бұрын

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@wiler5002
@wiler5002 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wonder if Simon and I could be an elite solving sudoku pair. He would do 99% of the solving, and occasionally I would remind him of something he said earlier in the solve.
@benhawkermusic
@benhawkermusic Жыл бұрын
👏
@coherentramblings7326
@coherentramblings7326 Жыл бұрын
That was basically the dynamic between him and Mark when they solved a puzzle together. Simon would make a deduction, pencilmark a part of the grid, then he’d find something interesting in another part of the grid, but Mark would say “No, don’t move on yet. There’s still more you can do here”
@daleomiller
@daleomiller Жыл бұрын
I’ve thought the same about myself. Or tell him to look at his pencil marks.
@bluerizlagirl
@bluerizlagirl Жыл бұрын
That's an old hiking tip, that is. Carry a Sudoku book in your backpack. If you get lost, just sit down on the nearest tree stump and start solving a puzzle. Someone is bound to appear and tell you "Four in box 3 has got to be in row 2, so that's a six" or something, and you can ask them for help .....
@studgerbil9081
@studgerbil9081 Жыл бұрын
@@bluerizlagirl Redford and Nolte could've used that trick in "A Walk in the Woods". Clever idea.
@dorlirahmeti7576
@dorlirahmeti7576 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing one of my puzzles once again. I was hoping you do this puzzle because I thought it had some really unique ideas with cages and fog which weren't used before. And it seemed you liked the puzzle very much. So thanks again and take care, really satisfied how you solved the puzzle.
@derekjc777
@derekjc777 Жыл бұрын
I’ve done a few of these FOW puzzles and this by far has been my favourite, and probably the hardest. The simple constraint that the cage total is in the top row creates an elegant break in, aided and abetted by one cleared empty cell. Genius!
@Kversten9
@Kversten9 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree that this channel truly is is "an oasis of calm in a strange world"! 🧘‍♂
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@penningmeestercgkdelft9159
@penningmeestercgkdelft9159 Жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed!
@joshrobbins4853
@joshrobbins4853 Жыл бұрын
Sooooo many colors! Once you uncovered most of the cages, clean up those colors and get rid of all the flashes. Once you get rid of the fog and can see most of the cages, undo the colors and then just color individual cells. Makes it so much easier to see things. Great puzzle
@janerobson2297
@janerobson2297 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that Simon uses parity and cage logic to prove things which simple Sudoku could prove! Every time!
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby Жыл бұрын
In fog puzzles, it can be a huge help to use the line tool to draw a line through cells that form part of a cage, rather than colouring, because it allows you to see more easily where the fog remains. It also frees up colouring for pairing up matching cells (top tip: use a white flash on all coloured cells and then it is obvious whether it is still fogged up or not). But the *absolute* top tip for colouring in *any* puzzle is to REMOVE THE COLOURING WHEN YOU NO LONGER NEED IT.
@debrawilden1971
@debrawilden1971 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I was going to post that very thing-remove the coloring when it's no longer needed. It then clears the clutter, as well as being able to use that color again if needed. But, in all my watching here, for many years, I think Simon really likes colors, even to the degree that he will fully color the grid as opposed to removing it. And he will use as many colors as he can, where I will use as few. Recently I've been using the circle feature of the pen tool to indicate that certain digits are the same. But that gets too complicated if a lot of cells need to be identified, or two cells would need a circle.
@馬善萄
@馬善萄 Жыл бұрын
What I love about this puzzle is that the last piece of fog revealed is the total of the first cage, which made me feel that I have completed a whole journey of fog revealing.
@stangerrits6712
@stangerrits6712 Жыл бұрын
True, but for everyone who knows the secret, that cage total is no surprise anymore 😊
@robert-skibelo
@robert-skibelo Жыл бұрын
Yes, that was really nice. Simon didn't notice it, of course.
@Zardoz37
@Zardoz37 Жыл бұрын
It's very gratifying to watch Simon get stuck and flounder at exactly the same point in the puzzle where I got stuck and floundered.
@wiler5002
@wiler5002 Жыл бұрын
Is Simon's dismissed used of uniqueness at 38:20 incorrect because of the blue 43 cage?
@katzen3314
@katzen3314 Жыл бұрын
I think so. But also one of the 4 cells is still in the fog. So it could have been a given digit anyway, even though that would look a bit odd in this puzzle.
@bobh6728
@bobh6728 Жыл бұрын
He dismissed uniqueness, because if the puzzle had two solutions, he would prove that.
@AngryKettle
@AngryKettle Жыл бұрын
@@bobh6728 The point is that it wasn't available in the first place. It could have been disambiguated by the blue box
@geoff544
@geoff544 Жыл бұрын
At that point, the 78 cell in r6c1 (the one he eventually colours black) has to be somewhere in row 9 in box 9 - so the white dot can't be a 78 pair.
@elmaminsk5411
@elmaminsk5411 Жыл бұрын
I can give you a piece of advise: remove colors once you don't need them. For example, you could remove pink, orange at the moment the entire strip was revealed or light green once you got '4' in there and have corresponding labeling
@brutusjv2653
@brutusjv2653 11 ай бұрын
19:58 Why could the 18 cage not go up and right to create a 4-cell cage with 2 in r4c6 and 1 in r4c7 (forcing a 3 in r4c5)?
@khoozu7802
@khoozu7802 8 ай бұрын
U forgot the rule. Cage cell with clue must always at the uppermost row of the cage
@Tsunami14
@Tsunami14 Жыл бұрын
10 minutes in: This puzzle seems approachable. How did it get 4 stars? 30 minutes in: Oh...
@BryanLu0
@BryanLu0 Жыл бұрын
37:47 Uniqueness does not apply because the red digit can't repeat in the cage 51:20 Actually, what I was screaming about is that green can't repeat in the blue cage
@andremouss2536
@andremouss2536 Жыл бұрын
32:45 what a cryptic explanation for the 2 in R7C2 ! Much simpler to ask "where is the 2 in box 8 ?
@Jake_Etc
@Jake_Etc Жыл бұрын
I always feel better about giving up halfway through a puzzl when Simon gets stuck at the same spot for 20 minutes.
@markwright6685
@markwright6685 Жыл бұрын
WOW! What a fantastic puzzle. My favourite fog of war so far and, most challenging yet. Loved it.
@jaega4247
@jaega4247 Жыл бұрын
Great puzzle, and great solve by Simon as always! Really enjoyed it, but needed a little reminder from Simon's video as I got stuck on the 18 cage: Cages never go upwards above the cell with the cage total. One of those tiny rules, just like king/knights move, that I often forget about in the middle of my solves.
@nattixer
@nattixer Жыл бұрын
I needed this today. Thank you Simon for everything you do !
@inspiringsand123
@inspiringsand123 Жыл бұрын
Rules: 02:55 Let's Get Cracking: 04:50 Simon's time: 1h1m50s Puzzle Solved: 1:06:40 What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! Maverick: 4x (11:18, 11:18, 11:21, 11:23) The Secret: 4x (14:53, 15:04, 25:48, 1:05:23) Bobbins: 1x (23:45) Three In the Corner: 1x (24:49) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Ah: 19x (10:55, 14:16, 14:16, 21:25, 21:55, 23:06, 27:50, 28:17, 33:58, 38:23, 38:23, 39:38, 50:56, 51:51, 54:12, 55:06, 1:00:39, 1:02:33, 1:03:50) Hang On: 15x (08:31, 09:59, 14:20, 16:55, 20:17, 21:28, 23:39, 24:20, 26:07, 27:50, 30:32, 30:32, 32:21, 39:38, 42:31) Obviously: 11x (05:20, 06:36, 09:11, 12:10, 21:30, 27:50, 28:56, 35:35, 57:26, 57:28, 59:27) In Fact: 10x (07:31, 08:31, 08:44, 17:12, 17:15, 24:24, 45:06, 58:04, 58:09, 1:01:58) By Sudoku: 9x (10:51, 29:54, 30:12, 33:36, 43:25, 45:26, 45:31, 48:34, 58:27) Sorry: 8x (23:57, 25:22, 29:33, 30:39, 32:07, 46:57, 49:04, 53:19) Lovely: 6x (10:31, 10:34, 58:04, 58:06, 1:04:38, 1:04:46) Beautiful: 6x (17:37, 18:49, 53:59, 55:49, 1:07:32, 1:07:32) Naked Single: 5x (10:31, 23:45, 1:01:54, 1:04:00, 1:05:44) The Answer is: 5x (19:01, 32:30, 39:53, 43:19, 54:56) Pencil Mark/mark: 5x (26:31, 29:14, 34:54, 40:59, 1:04:10) Weird: 5x (09:58, 17:20, 47:11, 1:01:56, 1:06:29) Clever: 4x (30:44, 54:01, 58:36, 1:04:46) What Does This Mean?: 4x (31:17, 35:15, 43:44, 45:49) Uniqueness: 4x (37:35, 38:03, 38:11, 52:02) Good Grief: 3x (55:49, 56:30, 58:33) Stuck: 3x (25:22, 49:18, 49:21) Brilliant: 3x (29:22, 29:33, 1:04:54) Triangular Number: 3x (11:57, 12:08, 14:33) Goodness: 2x (25:39, 50:58) Naughty: 2x (51:09, 51:11) Gorgeous: 2x (22:06, 58:33) Shouting: 2x (51:16, 53:25) I Have no Clue: 1x (32:30) Ridiculous: 1x (46:47) Discombobulating: 1x (1:06:07) Alacrity: 1x (07:45) I've Got It!: 1x (53:17) Phone is Buzzing: 1x (02:02) Progress: 1x (01:25) Wow: 1x (20:58) Next Trick: 1x (57:34) Baffling: 1x (49:34) Nature: 1x (18:26) Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video: Seventy Eight (16 mentions) Four (82 mentions) Green (36 mentions) Antithesis Battles: High (4) - Low (3) Even (12) - Odd (2) Higher (3) - Lower (1) White (7) - Black (2) Row (33) - Column (16) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn! Q2: Can you do this for another channel? A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!
@elmaminsk5411
@elmaminsk5411 Жыл бұрын
You missed "By sudoku" at 1:01:36 and 1:06:18
@fredgoodyer4907
@fredgoodyer4907 Жыл бұрын
35:30 This is a very helpful (and beautiful) deduction, and would have uniquely answered most of his subsequently asked questions 😊 If only he had written it down! Oh well, you can’t be perfect in live solves, he does a pretty excellent job and I have improved my solving massively thanks to these videos ☺️ Thanks Simon 😊
@In_TheMoonlight
@In_TheMoonlight 11 ай бұрын
Your puzzle solves provide so much MUCH needed relaxation and it's greatly appreciated
@Yttria
@Yttria Жыл бұрын
Made great progress until halfway through the puzzle and then it came to a grinding halt a few times but soldiered through them. ~146 minutes to solve. Definitely deserves the higher difficulty ranking.
@neshploda17
@neshploda17 4 ай бұрын
The shading to track digits feels like magic. I was impressed I was able to use it to solve the back half of the puzzle after I saw Simon do it on the front half with the 7/8 3/9 pairs.
@wangmanting
@wangmanting Жыл бұрын
Did it in 53:37, it was the first 1h+ video puzzle that I actually tried myself.
@st3phgr1ce
@st3phgr1ce Жыл бұрын
I so enjoy watching every day! I would like to kindly suggest using the line tool and/or the letters more. I thought you could have used the line tool to outline the cages so you could just use colors for the digits. Still loved it and love to you and Mark this Holiday season! ❤
@Hakucho64
@Hakucho64 Жыл бұрын
Or, you know, delete unnecessary cage colouring (e.g. the yellow and pink here) to allow those colours to be repurposed. But the line tool would be a good choice too.
@chocolateboy300
@chocolateboy300 7 ай бұрын
I finished in 46 minutes. This has got to be one of the wildest break-ins I have done. Seeing that the cage had to wrap around to the top, forcing the 30 cage to be 6789 was spectacular. Even better, I managed to beat Simon's time by quite a lot, which always feels good. It seems like this innocuous ruleset of a cage have to have the total in the leftmost portion of the uppermost part is incredibly powerful, which is kind of funny. Great Puzzle!
@GoldenredDragon
@GoldenredDragon Жыл бұрын
68 minutes! Wooohoo! This was such a pleasant journey through very exact clues, with barely any leeway in the solving path. Great experience! I loved the coloring of the 78 in the middle of the solve, I had to overengineer my coloring too ahaha!
@RedBarchetta2019
@RedBarchetta2019 Жыл бұрын
Simon rarely to never deletes colors that are not needed, and it hurts to watch. Once I got to the bottom 3 boxes, I deleted all my coloring and started over. Assign individual colors to each cell in row 7. Then row 8 and 9 get mostly colored in due to the interactions with the 45 cage and the 43 cage. 7-8 pairs and 3-9 pairs appear, box 4 gets colored, and on and on. It's the true secret that Simon may not know. In any row, column, or box, you can assign each cell an individual, specific color.
@iambicpentakill
@iambicpentakill Жыл бұрын
It got really bad in the recent one where it seemed like everything was two+ colors. It was madness.
@debrawilden1971
@debrawilden1971 Жыл бұрын
@@iambicpentakill I remember that puzzle. I just couldn't tell what was going on, it hurt my head!
@lexola4857
@lexola4857 11 ай бұрын
I think leaving all that colouring in really held you back in this puzzle. Thanks for the solve!
@warren_r
@warren_r Жыл бұрын
1 hour, 3 minutes for me. Comparable time to Simon's, which I'm pleased about. A superb, demanding puzzle.
@Hakucho64
@Hakucho64 Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a puzzle. Took me 1:47:15, but I got there in the end. This channel has taught me so much.
@rentalcustard
@rentalcustard Жыл бұрын
51:24 for me. Kicking myself watching Simon's solve, because I left the 1 and 2 in box 4 unresolved for a shocking amount of time! This was a lovely puzzle that didn't let up in difficulty all the way to the end. I really enjoyed needing to juggle the demands of building cages in the fog, tracing digits around the grid with colours, and basic arithmetic on killer cages (of which the last was by far the hardest for me!)
@dwdei8815
@dwdei8815 Жыл бұрын
That was a very neat explanation of uniqueness and how to use it (or to choose not to) at about 37 minutes. Thanks.
@stephenbeck7222
@stephenbeck7222 Жыл бұрын
Yes but in this case I’m not sure it is correct because the 78 pairs could be fixed by the blue cage.
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby Жыл бұрын
@@stephenbeck7222 Yes, that is a big pitfall of using uniqueness in variant puzzles is that there can be ways to disambiguate the digits that aren't immediately obvious.
@HunterJE
@HunterJE Жыл бұрын
11:49 Think Simon made it harder on himself than needed here, you can very clearly see that there is not a cage corner at the bottom right of r5c3 (if you're not about that, compare the bottom left corner of the same cell, where the inside corner of the cage is clearly visible), so you can also yellow r6c4 which gives the maximum and thus exact extent of the 21 cage
@paulfox5331
@paulfox5331 Жыл бұрын
Simon does seem to over complicate or over think quite a bit
@srwapo
@srwapo Жыл бұрын
This is what I did, but it seems like really squinting for a few pixels on my phone, I was wondering if there was an easier hit of logic that I was missing.
@stevenape377
@stevenape377 Жыл бұрын
I used that too, but I do prefer to not rely on those little tiny things unless I have to, so I prefer Simon's route, which was in my view prettier, and not actually all that more complicated.
@stangerrits6712
@stangerrits6712 Жыл бұрын
If only he stopped selecting and deselecting all the cells he was thinking about at this point, he might have seen it. Don’t know whether it’s part of the intended solve path, since you need sharp eyes to see it 😊
@nakorbluerider
@nakorbluerider Жыл бұрын
This was a really fascinating puzzle. I can perhaps offer a bit of insight into Simon's question of whether finding the 1 in box 4 would circumvent the logic he used in box 5. I will say I found that 1 earlier, but the box 5 went largely in the same fashion - identify the cells on the centre white dot as 789, identify that 89 would not be possible due to box 5's 1, note that the upper-left cell of box 5 could not be from 789 due to seeing all three flavours of 789 in the 45 cage, and the only thing that differed in my logic was that rather than finding the 9 immediately, I had the top row of box 5 marked as 2345 (cell 1 for the aforementioned reason, and cells 2-3 because a higher digit on them would put four digits from 789 in the row), and got 9 in cell 8 from that. So in short, maybe there was another approach also, but placing that box four 1 earlier doesn't really mess with the logic used to solve box 5 for me. The rest of the puzzle for me boiled down to colouring 789's, some significant Goodliffeing in box 8, very tediously eliminating one candidate from one cell every few minutes or so, and then finally arriving at a way to identify a 9 in c3r4, which put a 78 pair into the bottom 45 cage. I didn't go hunting for 3's, but I think the 78's were what mattered, so in practice my path didn't really differ from Simon's much, other than that he's much faster than me lol. An aside: I think (perhaps fortunately) that the uniqueness argument Simon mentioned for resolving the 78 pair would not actually have even been true. The 7 or 8 in cell c1r6 would see the bottom-left corner of the deadly pattern, and fix one of the two orientations as correct. Of course, it didn't end up being a 78 x-wing, and there was a proper logical way through it anyway, but perhaps it's assuaging to know that there truly wasn't (as far as I could spot) a true uniqueness argument to be had there.
@anaayoung9142
@anaayoung9142 Жыл бұрын
Super lovely fog puzzle. Started very nice, than become harder but I still could do it. Thanks for it! 😊
@rampantunease6517
@rampantunease6517 Жыл бұрын
You can do hard things, and hard things can be fun.
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary Жыл бұрын
Here’s a vote that you’re the sane one! Very much enjoy the oasis of calm in this lovely community! Particularly on a gloomy, grey day, when not feeling great and watching with my fluffy blanket and hot chocolate!
@davidrattner9
@davidrattner9 Жыл бұрын
Save some hot chocolate for me my friend!! Grey, gloomy days aren't fun at all. Rain up by me all day today also. But nothing like a Simon solve to get us thru it. Hope you are feeling better. 🩵💙
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary Жыл бұрын
@@davidrattner9 thank you my friend. Got your hot chocolate (with whipped cream) waiting!
@adagraves
@adagraves Жыл бұрын
I used the pen tool for tracking cages, left more options for coloring 789s. Actually, I think the only digits I didn’t end up assigning a color were 45s.
@matthewread9001
@matthewread9001 Жыл бұрын
I like puzzles like this that have a clear path to solve. You can appreciate the work the creator did a lot more.
@SMVCKERS
@SMVCKERS Жыл бұрын
First time I’ve completed a puzzle quicker than Simon! 😮
@RhiannonAgutter
@RhiannonAgutter Жыл бұрын
Everyone else spent way too much of this video anxious about r6c4 not being yellow as well right?
@Rubrickety
@Rubrickety Жыл бұрын
I'm strangely charmed by puzzles like this which require logic based on what are, essentially, typographic and layout conventions. I'll bet whoever first standardized where the total goes in killer cages never dreamed of the perverse uses to which it would someday be put. 😊
@sophiemclellan4709
@sophiemclellan4709 Жыл бұрын
68:17 for me today and the first time I solved a video puzzle without any hints at all! What a day! 😂
@christianmcneill699
@christianmcneill699 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful puzzle. I'm happy that I was able to solve it without peeking at Simons solve. Just had to remember that "The Clue is awyas given"
@piarittersporn
@piarittersporn Жыл бұрын
Very very ..... beautiful foggy.
@azrobbins01
@azrobbins01 Жыл бұрын
At 20:30, what prevents the 18 cage from going up?
@nipi5730
@nipi5730 Жыл бұрын
I agree, what’s the reason it couldn’t go up for the 18 cage
@Orangeremi
@Orangeremi Жыл бұрын
The clue being visible in the cage is what forces it to go down
@TheTCKreen
@TheTCKreen Жыл бұрын
​@@Orangeremi aaah! I got stuck here for a while, this was exactly the hint I needed to keep going :) have put the video back on pause whilst I continue, cheers!
@azrobbins01
@azrobbins01 Жыл бұрын
@@Orangeremi I see, thanks!
@xinexine2785
@xinexine2785 Жыл бұрын
Because the total (18) indicates the top left cell of the cage.
@bertbergers9171
@bertbergers9171 Жыл бұрын
Wooot i finished this one in 76:08 Great Puzzle, i got stuck and found some hidden gem to get on time after time after time! Thank you Dorlir and Simon, now to watch how Simon did the puzzle!
@BakingFiend-rl7mo
@BakingFiend-rl7mo Жыл бұрын
I love fog of war puzzles! Cant wait to see how this one goes
@clay9085
@clay9085 Жыл бұрын
At 20:01, how can we be certain that the 18sum cage in box5 dips vertically down into a 2 and 1? Can it not go upward into a 2 and then move right into box6 as 1? I can't understand how Simon is so certain
@cae13yt
@cae13yt Жыл бұрын
At around 19:20 Simon explains that (according to the rules) any cell going up would have to contain the cage total which is already given in r5c5.
@wittylama
@wittylama Жыл бұрын
@@cae13yt thank you that saved me a lot of angst wondering exactly @clay9085's question!
@grey_one7898
@grey_one7898 Жыл бұрын
No, because we know the sum for the cage is in the highest row.
@Bugonchair
@Bugonchair Жыл бұрын
I was totally unable to solve this one, but having watched the video, I see why! Very interesting puzzle, just a little over my level still.
@Hakucho64
@Hakucho64 Жыл бұрын
Simon was so close to making progress at 28:50. If he'd only gone on to ask himself where the green digit went in box 8 (I know, making him do sudoku in a sudoku), he would have seen that none of the possible positions allowed it to be a 2, and that green was therefore 4.
@fredgoodyer4907
@fredgoodyer4907 Жыл бұрын
Or indeed before introducing green, just ask where 2 goes in box 8 😊
@PennyLapin
@PennyLapin Жыл бұрын
solved in 45:30. the middle section of this puzzle is so incredibly robust, in order to make progress I had to whittle down options for pencil marks until I forced a pair to resolve r9c5. up to that portion of the puzzle things were flying by in solving, and after that find things then broke open and the rest of the puzzle flew by too.
@steveunderwood3683
@steveunderwood3683 Жыл бұрын
The turned out to be a lot more straightforward than I thought at first sight. It was spoilt by a typo that revealed something I shouldn't have seen until later. Typos are a HUGE downside of these foggy puzzles. One slip of the keys, and you never feel as good about what you are achieving after that.
@dodekaedius
@dodekaedius Жыл бұрын
It might be solved with a built-in timer (1second should be enough)? So basically nothing happens for about 0,5-1,0 seconds, after filling a cell with digits. Another solution could be, that cells within the fog only allow a notation first, before entering the correct digit, which requires a bit more action from the user, and this could also be confusing. Less stressful, if users can toggle these options on/off, if they consider themselves people who have no patience and/or trust their keyboard skills.
@walrusahoy5878
@walrusahoy5878 Жыл бұрын
A double press perhaps for main numbers?
@Yttria
@Yttria Жыл бұрын
I just ignore what I've accidentally seen and look for the logical way of proceeding.
@steveunderwood3683
@steveunderwood3683 Жыл бұрын
@@Yttria How can you unlearn what you've seen? I try to carry on still looking for a logical route to a solution, but that is always easier to spot with the added information you have.
@Yttria
@Yttria Жыл бұрын
@@steveunderwood3683 I can't unsee it but I don't use it until it's revealed another way.
@TomHickey
@TomHickey Жыл бұрын
At 45:35 taking that 9 out of r9c4 leaves a 478 triple in blue, so r7c1+r8c1 are a 39 pair
@BozoTheBear
@BozoTheBear Жыл бұрын
Was going to say this.
@markp7262
@markp7262 Жыл бұрын
41:05 finish. It took me a few minutes to spot the logic for what Simon labelled as the red cells, but other than that it was quite smooth flowing. Excellent puzzle!
@359Aides
@359Aides Жыл бұрын
Once again it's fascinating how Simon finds rather convoluted ways to prove things that could be very easily be proven in a different way :D He's absolutely amazing at it and way better than I'll ever be but still it's very funny to me.
@Escviitash
@Escviitash Жыл бұрын
37:27 You can't even use uniqueness at this point as R6C1 would resolve the pattern in case the dot was 7-8, i.e it would only be a deadly pattern in case R6C1 is also part of a 7-8 deadly pattern which in turn would be resolved by R3C4. So both R3C4 and R6C1 would both have to be part of a deadly 7-8 patterns in order for the dot to be it as well, which is very unlikely.
@frankjiang1857
@frankjiang1857 Жыл бұрын
Finished in 42:57. Very interesting use of large killer cages to eliminate possibilities particularly with the value constraint. Fun puzzle!
@clara931
@clara931 Жыл бұрын
I found the breakin very intuitive and pretty. Got badly stuck in the middle. But do love me a fog of war puzzle
@Demgar1
@Demgar1 11 ай бұрын
I solved this one on my own(though I did use the error checker and spotted a mistake I made). The 789 conundrum was an absolute beast. Simon used colors. I deleted all the 78&9s and switched to pencil marking with A B C to represent the digits I knew had to be the same after banging my head against it for about 45 minutes.
@MisterM2402
@MisterM2402 3 ай бұрын
16:25 - Anyone know why blue and orange couldn't be the same cage? Why can't a cage touch itself orthogonally, I've never heard that as a Killer Sudoku rule before.
@anaphysik
@anaphysik Жыл бұрын
48:00 Simon: "I thought my brain had cottoned on to something a few minutes ago, but I think I led myself astray." Ron Howard: "He had." Simon: "And that's very annoying." Ron Howard: "It was." 51:00 Simon: "and you've been shouting at me, with justification, for ages...." Ron Howard: "Actually, no one had even noticed this bit of logic, which was as brilliant as it was arcane. They'd been shouting about the 9 in the bottom left cage." 53:15 Simon: "Oh, no, I've got it again. This is appalling. I've just spotted something else that was completely obvious." Ron Howard: "It really wasn't." Simon: "I deserve to be shouted at." Ron Howard: "But sure." Ron Howard: "On the next Cracking the Cryptic... Simon switches from colors to the letter tool." Simon: "♫That's B in the corner♫"/"♫That's C in the corner♫"/"♫That's D in the corner♫"/"♫That's E in the corner♫"/"♫That's G in the corner♫" Ron Howard: "And Mark pencils a 123456789 nonuple. Which turns out to be the break-in."
@johnh2052
@johnh2052 Жыл бұрын
At 51:19, Simon is right that we're shouting at him, but wrong about the reason. We're shouting because the bottom-left cage already has both flavours of 78 in it, so _both_ of the 3789s in box 7 reduce to 39.
@sam_c95
@sam_c95 9 ай бұрын
It may have taken me about 1000 years, but I think this is the hardest sudoku I've ever solved without any help from Simon!
@Gonzalo_Garcia_
@Gonzalo_Garcia_ Жыл бұрын
17:31 for me. What a fantastic puzzle, really enjoyed this one!!
@MarkBennet10001
@MarkBennet10001 Жыл бұрын
@56.45 - the exact same thing took me a long time (what and how to colour ...). This is a lovely puzzle and I am enjoying the solve so far.
@MarkBennet10001
@MarkBennet10001 Жыл бұрын
And finished a little differently from mine - I saw things I didn't quite see in my original solve (twas ever thus) - great solve, Simon. And that hard middle step is a bit unexpected - I suspect we may see some more fog puzzles which are not just fog-based logic but have interludes like this one.
@GhostHostMemories
@GhostHostMemories 10 ай бұрын
Love the "secret" that a row/column/box/9unique numbers all add to 45.
@penningmeestercgkdelft9159
@penningmeestercgkdelft9159 Жыл бұрын
Wow, 99:16 for me... I had a lot of difficulties wich scanning and coloring, but finally I did it! Fog of war remains a joy to solve. :-)
@axlefire3754
@axlefire3754 3 ай бұрын
I'm not understanding the logic @20:50. Why can't the cell 2 cells above the 23 pair also be 23? Why can't the 18 cage curve upwards instead of downwards? I solved it up to the point, and even had more information but couldn't deduce why the cage must curve down. I had the upper white dot pair marked as either a 2 or 4 paired with a 3 for the longest time, but had already found the 5 to the left.
@dorlirahmeti7576
@dorlirahmeti7576 3 ай бұрын
Because the clue of the cage is always in the most top left cell of that cage.
@axlefire3754
@axlefire3754 3 ай бұрын
@@dorlirahmeti7576 ah... thanks.
@justgaming9212
@justgaming9212 Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful sudoku
@twen7yseven
@twen7yseven 8 ай бұрын
Around 19:53 I am missing why a 3 couldn't go in r4c6 to complete the 18 cage in an upward fashion. If anyone understands I would love to know.
@dorlirahmeti7576
@dorlirahmeti7576 3 ай бұрын
Because the rule, the clue of the cage is always on the most top left cell of that cage.
@twen7yseven
@twen7yseven 3 ай бұрын
@@dorlirahmeti7576 Of course, thanks. Must've been having a brainfart haha
@zaphodbeeblebrox-fz5fh
@zaphodbeeblebrox-fz5fh Жыл бұрын
I could not see why R6C6 is either 2 or 3. Couldn't the 8-cage go upwards with a 2 or 3 in R4C6? Quite a hard fog of war puzzle from the sudoku perspective, whereas the cages were not that hard to find. Great solution anyway!!
@zaphodbeeblebrox-fz5fh
@zaphodbeeblebrox-fz5fh Жыл бұрын
Stupid me. I now see
@matthewread9001
@matthewread9001 Жыл бұрын
12:00 you don’t see marks in the bottom right of r5c3 so r6c4 is yellow too
@titusadduxas
@titusadduxas Жыл бұрын
2:07:02 - Crumbs; that was one of the more challenging FOW puzzles despite getting started quite quickly.
@philipreinhold1180
@philipreinhold1180 Жыл бұрын
When Simon waxes on about if only he could eliminate the 9 im lower left of box 8, he could make all these deductions, and then he eliminates that 9 and ignores all those deductions
@matthewread9001
@matthewread9001 Жыл бұрын
Anytime, I find myself annoyed with a secret explanation, I always remind myself I was a newcomer wants to, and I’m glad it was explained to me.
@scorix_
@scorix_ Жыл бұрын
solved it in 132 minutes. the 7/8 problem at box 7 did break my head though. Couldn't find the logic steps you took and played out all possible solutions about it in my head until it finally broke :D
@Ifield92
@Ifield92 Жыл бұрын
Love this channel!❤
@LyuboRyuk
@LyuboRyuk Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary Жыл бұрын
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@chipsounder4633
@chipsounder4633 Жыл бұрын
23:31.. where is the 2 in row 9?
@joabpelling462
@joabpelling462 3 ай бұрын
Great puzzle, solved in 59 mins by shading the 7 and 8 and using deduction from there
@chitraagarwal8259
@chitraagarwal8259 Жыл бұрын
Want simon to pick one such video where he got stuck for a "premiere" Where he could see live if people were actually shouting at him while watching... (Spoiler - most of us are just hoping and praying and feeling very proud of ourselves for catching something you missed.. No anger- just love ❤)
@micaelcosta1549
@micaelcosta1549 11 ай бұрын
I am a Portuguese fan and i relly love this kind of puzzles. I this puzzle i have a doubt. Can you clarify me? I can't understand why in minute 20:30 this below values doesn' work r: 4 c: 6 can't be a 2 r: 3 c: 6 can't be a 1 r:4 c: 5 can't be a 3 the 18 sum cage can't go up... I really love watch you solving puzzles, but i need to understand it :D Sorry about my english ;)
@kathyjohnson2043
@kathyjohnson2043 Жыл бұрын
The key to determining why one cell is the upper most left cell of a cage hinges on word order, go up and THEN left. This confused me for quite a while
@Hakucho64
@Hakucho64 Жыл бұрын
They often say it wrong, but in this case the written rules of the puzzle are clear.
@anshjain4484
@anshjain4484 5 ай бұрын
Why can't the initial cage (i.e. R2C1) merge into the 30 sum cage making it into an 8-cell cage summing to 30?
@bibliopolist
@bibliopolist Жыл бұрын
I'm glad Simon didn't use uniqueness since it would have been wrong. The cage from the left goes well into the foggy area and could have decided even a 78 pair.
@PathOfShrines
@PathOfShrines Жыл бұрын
Great puzzle. That logic in the middle (leading up to coloring e.g. r9c6) was really tough! 42:47
@Daiwie44
@Daiwie44 Жыл бұрын
Is it bad to use uniqueness? At 38:00 he says there's a 78 deadly pattern, but he won't use uniqueness. In this particular example, one cell is part of a cage, so it would not be a deadly pattern, but it sounded like a "cheaty" use of logic.
@jkwatcher47
@jkwatcher47 Жыл бұрын
I'm missing something: why couldn't 2/3 also be a possibility also going up just before 22:37? If 2/3 is a possibility going up then you couldn't put that 9 in box 5.
@jkwatcher47
@jkwatcher47 Жыл бұрын
It's killing me because I have going up to be a possibility for that cage and then I'm stuck and I can't make any more progress.
@schneebaer42
@schneebaer42 Жыл бұрын
@@jkwatcher47The cage cant go up, because the "18" clue is in the top left corner of the cage. so from the 18, the cage can only go down.
@jkwatcher47
@jkwatcher47 Жыл бұрын
@@schneebaer42the string of curse words that just came out of my mouth for missing something so simple! Thank you! This was going to drive me nuts!
@BlakeMcCringleberry
@BlakeMcCringleberry Жыл бұрын
Why can't the 30 cage be connected to the cage abutting it? (aside from it not being so in the solution) Simon's logic seems to skip over the possibility that the 30 cage loops back on itself in a non-standard cage formation where adjacent cells may or may not be separated by a cage wall. If there is a particular cage rule that limits this, it would be nice to explain in the future.
@iambicpentakill
@iambicpentakill Жыл бұрын
There wouldn't be a wall there, it's just one of the killer cage rules. It would look like the 2x2 square in the 21 cage (unless I misunderstand you).
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 Жыл бұрын
​@@iambicpentakill​I think Lauren's point is that it assumes you're familiar with the non-stated rule that cages do not bend back on themselves, i.e. they don't have walls separating two cells in the same cage, in a U-turn for example. It's a fair point. If you have lots of experience with cages in variant Sudokus, then you likely just take that for granted. But there isn't anything in the rules that state cages behave this way, or even that "standard cage construction rules apply".
@jesscarrier4180
@jesscarrier4180 Жыл бұрын
Even if you forget that cages don't bend back on themselves (as I did), it's still not very hard to prove that the 30 cage can't be connected to the cage on the other side of the white dot. The shortest possible distance connecting those 2 partial cages that are visible right at the start is 8 cells. And an 8 cell cage must have a total of at least 36, thus they must be separate cages. It wasn't until I was watching Simon later and wondering why he didn't bother proving that, that I realised that the visible cage boundaries are enough 🤦
@BlakeMcCringleberry
@BlakeMcCringleberry Жыл бұрын
@@jesscarrier4180 This makes sense now, and I was making a simple mistake. I was miscalculating the box and assuming it could simply leave a 5 out, but that's obviously wrong since the box would need to be 40. Maybe I need to stop skipping over the explanations of the secret in the next few videos.
@jeythegrey
@jeythegrey Жыл бұрын
I was stuck in this puzzle a while, and I still don't understand how you deduce that the 18 cage around 21:00 has to go down? it can also go up towards the white dot. You state that the cell below the 78 pair has to be a 2or3. but it technically doesn't, only if the cage goes down, which it does not need to do. I really don't get how to proceed from here...
@cae13yt
@cae13yt Жыл бұрын
At around 19:20 Simon explains that (according to the rules) any cell going up would have to contain the cage total which is already given in r5c5.
@jeythegrey
@jeythegrey Жыл бұрын
@@cae13yt yeah I realized after as well... i even read the rules again and missed it
@elLooto
@elLooto Жыл бұрын
Cage totals always go in the highest, leftmost caged cell. So if the cage went up, the corner total would not be in the cell its marked in. Its the same logic he used in the beginning to determine that the green (later blue) cage in box1 must go into row 1, since the leftmost cell in row 2 _is not marked with the cage total_
@jeythegrey
@jeythegrey Жыл бұрын
@@elLooto Yes thank you! I saw some time later... I was just being dumb. Managed to solve it eventually :)
@elLooto
@elLooto Жыл бұрын
@@jeythegrey nice work! (and sorry for saying what someone else did, thats the hazards of scrolling the comments during the vid, I guess)
@ericpraline1302
@ericpraline1302 Жыл бұрын
Very nicely contrived, thanks.
@philipmetcalfe4736
@philipmetcalfe4736 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this puzzle
@musaburakerdihan5148
@musaburakerdihan5148 Жыл бұрын
It was actually brilliant
@rescdsk
@rescdsk Жыл бұрын
Have people made more variations on the fog of war? I remember one was "dense fog" where it only reveals the square itself. You could make one where you have to see around corners, or where the revealed squares are halfway across the board...
@davidtieman4102
@davidtieman4102 Жыл бұрын
That was challenging and fun.
@cae13yt
@cae13yt Жыл бұрын
Since about 14:17 I was waiting for r6c4 to be coloured yellow. 🤪
@nipi5730
@nipi5730 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but on the 18 cage in the middle saying the cage goes down without considering it could go up as either 3, or 2 with the 1 in box 2 or 6 seems to be guessing.
@azrobbins01
@azrobbins01 Жыл бұрын
The cage can't go up because the clue needs to be in the top cell of the cage, as someone pointed out to me.
@ckdo1974
@ckdo1974 Жыл бұрын
@37:50 -- There is no obvious uniqueness issue here. The alleged deadly pattern would be disambiguated by one of its cells being "the red digit" and us being able to determine the value of another "red digit" elsewhere in the grid at some point.
@MaierFlorian
@MaierFlorian Жыл бұрын
Me: green is in the cage so you can place green in Box 7, and do a LOT of other stuff than. Simon: I'm stuck. Me: desperately trying to shout back in time to him. Simon: still stuck. I really have to work on my time bending capabilities... 😅😂
@Kirbyfan87827
@Kirbyfan87827 Жыл бұрын
Finished in 50:44 with help from the video in getting started and getting unstuck.
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