Exploring the Origins of Today's "Corset Trend"

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[1] R & W H Symington & Co. Ltd. 1890. Pretty Housemaid Corset. Twill, Coutil, Hessian, Baleen. Leicester, UK. Leicestershire County Council Museum. imageleicestershire.org.uk/view-item?i=7559&WINID=1701373481687.
[2] Unknown Maker. 1780-89. Stays. Linen, Ribbon, Baleen. London, UK. Victoria & Albert Museum. collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O115752/stays-unknown/.
[3] Edmund Potter & Co. 1885. Dress. Printed Cotton. London, UK. Victoria & Albert Museum. collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O122400/dress-unknown/.
[4] Unknown Maker. 1760-80. Hoop. Linen, Wool, Silk, Cane or Baleen. London, UK. Victoria & Albert Museum. collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O1318194/hoop-unknown/.
[5] Izod, Edwin. 1887. Wedding Corset. Satin, Silk, Silk braid, Coutil. London, UK. Victoria & Albert Museum. collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O115825/wedding-corset-edwin-izod/.
[6] Unknown Maker. 1770s. Stays. Linen, Baleen, Leather. London, UK. Victoria & Albert Museum. collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O355231/stays-unknown/.
[7] Unknown Maker. 1780-89. Stays. Silk, Linen, Baleen. London, UK. Victoria & Albert Museum. collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O13864/stays-unknown/.
[8] Unknown Maker. 1825-35. Corset. Cotton, Silk Thread. London, UK. Victoria & Albert Museum. collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O138890/corset-unknown/.
[9] Unknown Maker. Third quarter 18th Century. Corset. Cotton. New York, NY. Metropolitan Museum of Art. www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/90458.
[10] Unknown Maker. 1883. Corset. Sateen, Leather, Baleen, Steel Busk. London, UK. Victoria & Albert Museum. collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O58915/corset-unknown/.
[11] A. Schabner. 1780-89. Side Hoop. Linen, Silk, Baleen. London, UK. Victoria & Albert Museum. collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O13863/side-hoop-a-schabner/.
[12] Unknown Maker. 1774. Wedding Dress of Edwige Elisabeth Charlotte de Holstein-Gottorp. Versailles, France. Chateau de Versailles. www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2009/apr/21/outlook-exhibition.
[13] La Galerie des Modes. 1770-80. Marie Antoinette Playing Shepherdess. Fashion Plate. Private Collection. mediakron.bc.edu/fashiondecor/marie-antoinette-playing-shepherdess.
[14] Roberts, Julie. 1999. Shepherdess Marie Antoinette. Oil on Acrylic on Canvas. Edinburgh. National Galleries Scotland. www.nationalgalleries.org/art-and-artists/60798.
[15] Westwood, Vivienne. 1988. Corset. Gold Lamé, Cotton. London, UK. Victoria & Albert Museum. collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O70460/corset-vivienne-westwood/.
[16] Westwood, Vivienne. 1990. Corset. Polyamide, Polyester, Lycra. London, UK. Victoria & Albert Museum. collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O71199/corset-vivienne-westwood/.
Westwood, Vivienne. 1990. Portrait. Synthetic Velvet, Cotton. London, UK. Victoria & Albert Museum. collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O71182/portrait-evening-ensemble-vivienne-westwood/.
[17] Westwood, Vivienne. 1990. Cut, Slash & Pull. Silk, Faux Fur. London, UK. Victoria & Albert Museum. collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O72332/cut-slash--pull-ensemble-vivienne-westwood/.
[18] Westwood, Vivienne. 1985-90. Ensemble. Cotton. New York, NY. Metropolitan Museum of Art. www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/79431.
[19] Westwood, Vivienne. 1988. Statue of Liberty. Leather, Silver Lamé, Silk Tulle. New York, NY. Museum at the Fashion Institute of Technology. fashionmuseum.fitnyc.edu/objects/23873/p89601?ctx=ba5fe84e-a6e5-4f01-bf66-7c66fedf51bd&idx=5.
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@bernadettebanner
@bernadettebanner 5 ай бұрын
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@Palitato
@Palitato 5 ай бұрын
It looks like the art at 12:24 was AI generated, Bernadette. You might wanna make a mention of that in your description, since you've been so vocally against that kinda thing in previous videos. I'm sure it just slipped past you!
@rebeccahawrot8345
@rebeccahawrot8345 5 ай бұрын
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@agneskirsch8335
@agneskirsch8335 5 ай бұрын
Your ad is hilarious.
@Stettafire
@Stettafire 5 ай бұрын
​@@PalitatoAgreed!
@AnaPradosA
@AnaPradosA 5 ай бұрын
I need to say, your data broker is extremely cute. hilarious ad. thanks
@Chibihugs
@Chibihugs 5 ай бұрын
Given how long they have stood the test of time and fashion, stays was indeed a worthy name!
@piercedsiren
@piercedsiren 5 ай бұрын
😂 You get a medal 🏅
@MariaGreenwoodArt
@MariaGreenwoodArt 5 ай бұрын
Take my like
@louised2818
@louised2818 5 ай бұрын
nice!
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 5 ай бұрын
Yep, they've got staying power.
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles 5 ай бұрын
The etymology of this is something I've been meaning to look up but am almost afraid to. My str8 brother would probably be super excited about what they're "staying" but this gaybro is not so intrepid 🤔
@kmbehrens14
@kmbehrens14 5 ай бұрын
TikTok girlies: This corset trend is totally fresh! Bernadette: Do not quote the deep magic to me, witches; I was there when it was written.
@doublelightangel
@doublelightangel 5 ай бұрын
Loving the Narnia reference!
@ThinWhiteAxe
@ThinWhiteAxe 5 ай бұрын
She's a vampire
@jessamynrising3990
@jessamynrising3990 5 ай бұрын
This comment wins.
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH 5 ай бұрын
Bernadette's mum's generation: You were there? Oh, adorable!
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles 5 ай бұрын
If she's aslan, at least she has her reepicheeps in the form of the piggies! Her sibling made them royal but now it's time to arm them to truly defend her. And yes I know reepicheep was the end of the world not the beginning but the mice were there
@bpora01
@bpora01 5 ай бұрын
A reminder that bernadette IS in fact a fashion historian and not just a couturier.
@AlbertaGeek
@AlbertaGeek 5 ай бұрын
A lady and a scholar.
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles 2 ай бұрын
This is so well-said! And obvious to all of us who love Bernadette and have watched all of her content. She has obviously spent so much time devouring the entire repository of plates in the archive and extant garments, and knows what to look for in sewn stitches and the way the fabric was made 🙌 and she's funny as fuck 😂 best academic ever
@Palitato
@Palitato 5 ай бұрын
Corsets keep coming back because they look DAMN good. They can be whimsical or sexy or fancy or simple. They're gorgeous, adjustable, and just heckin neat.
@Nikki-tx6kh
@Nikki-tx6kh 5 ай бұрын
As someone with big boobs, I find corsets comfier than modern bras. I think it's because I don't have the weight of them "hanging" from my shoulders, but kinda hugged from below.
@alexandriatrenier7366
@alexandriatrenier7366 5 ай бұрын
@@Nikki-tx6khYou’re right. They also have many benefits including comfort, support and even health
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH 5 ай бұрын
@@Nikki-tx6kh You need to get properly fitted. A modern bra in your actual size should not hang from your shoulders - the weight is supposed to be supported by the bra band and cup construction, very much like by a corset. Straps are just there to keep it in place.
@axolirvin971
@axolirvin971 5 ай бұрын
@@YaaLFH There comes a point where the weight is so much that the band would have to be too tight to be comfortable in order to properly support. When I got top surgery, mine weighed 7 lbs.
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH 5 ай бұрын
@@axolirvin971 There's much more that can be supported without the band having to be too tight to be comfortable than you think. I've been wearing between 30J to 34K most of my adult life and never had to suffer bands too tight for comfort.
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles 5 ай бұрын
Me: a dude who works on cars for a living. Bernadette: half-hour lecture on modern corsetry. Me: ✨fascinated✨
@thecatofnineswords
@thecatofnineswords 5 ай бұрын
With this username!? Of course you're here, basking in Bernadette's wit and wisdom. I'm about to head out and put my miata up on jack stands, so I understand exactly why too!
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles 5 ай бұрын
@@thecatofnineswords you found me out 😏 yep knit, spin, and weave, but sewing scares the shit out of me. And also professional mechanic
@KeevaTheFirstRival
@KeevaTheFirstRival 5 ай бұрын
@@SharpAssKnittingNeedles -Get- Be you a man who can do it all. Hell yeah my dude.
@KingOfGaymes
@KingOfGaymes 5 ай бұрын
You can be a guy who likes cars and corsets, nothing wrong with that 💜
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles
@SharpAssKnittingNeedles 5 ай бұрын
@@KeevaTheFirstRival I'll be keeping us all warm in nice cozy woolies, and keeping us all scooching around on wheels too 🤣
@tiffanytomasino335
@tiffanytomasino335 5 ай бұрын
I really love the idea that fashion has slowly become more and more about figuring out personal aesthetic. Like, trends obviously still exist, but nothing is really “out” anymore. You see a body in 1950’s and it’s just “huh, she’s a vintage gal” and then the next person is in top hats and Victorian corsets and “she’s steampunk”. There seems to be less “oh, how out of date” or what have you. It’s nice. Thank you for sharing ❤ Bernadette, it’s been as educational and lovely as I have come to appreciate
@naolucillerandom5280
@naolucillerandom5280 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think it's pretty cool. I heard someone say it sucks because now you have to become a brand of your own, but I prefer that to the threat of social clownery for being of a group or another.
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 5 ай бұрын
Agree, and i also love it
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 5 ай бұрын
Recently, my barber informed me that mullets are back in style. Truly, no styles are off the table.
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 5 ай бұрын
I've been seeing a few creators with mullets and for the first time in 30+ years they didnt seem strange to me. It's so strange how something goes from "ewww" to "yeah that's fine"@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@irelyndhenry1176
@irelyndhenry1176 5 ай бұрын
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721oh girl I’m in the south, the mullet never left sadly
@MiffoKarin
@MiffoKarin 5 ай бұрын
Ok, now that corsets and stays are making a comeback, can we also bring back fabulous hats? We can leave the dead birds on them in the past, but I just want some tiny hats that are also ridiculously elaborate.
@sooahnim
@sooahnim 5 ай бұрын
Lowkey I feel like hats are kind of making a comeback with the crocheted works coming onto the scene the past few years,, so I could honestly see that transition into more structured hats similar to 17th-20th century garb!
@sarahr8311
@sarahr8311 5 ай бұрын
Leave off the dead birds, substitute bird seed so you get live ones?
@MiffoKarin
@MiffoKarin 5 ай бұрын
@@sarahr8311 While "live birds on my hat" SOUNDS like a fun idea, it would also lead to a lot of bird poop on my shoulders, so I'll pass. 😅
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 5 ай бұрын
I think bucket hats are just phase 1 of hats coming back on the scene.
@karinebrochu2698
@karinebrochu2698 4 ай бұрын
Hats became outdated when cars became widespread and the roof got lowered in the 50ies…they were no longer necessary against the elements and difficult to fit in a car…
@ingridaguero6460
@ingridaguero6460 5 ай бұрын
I went through a Victorian Gothic phase in high school. I read the classics, Dracula, Frankenstein, Jane Eyre, A Christmas Carol, I even read Jane Austin books, and none of them really talk about corsets. If anyone read books that were written in the time, you’ll notice, underwear doesn’t really get mentioned much. Maybe a brief mention of a shift in a waking up scene but that’s about it. However, book that were written in modern days but takes place in the past, never shut up about corsets. I think it’s because they were never sexualized or even made to oppressed women until now.
@AshwynChappell
@AshwynChappell 5 ай бұрын
I’d actually be drawn to argue the opposite - they were not considered a ‘proper’ thing to talk or write about *because* of their sexualisation, rather than due to a lack of it. The term ‘unmentionables’ being used to describe undergarments or even men’s trousers in the 19th century tells us a great deal about the attitudes of the time toward anything that could even slightly hint toward sexuality. In avoiding mentioning their protagonist’s undergarments, the authors avoided being conflated with the disreputable realm of erotica, and instead retained the reader’s focus on the plot.
@NoDecaf7
@NoDecaf7 5 ай бұрын
​@@AshwynChappellThis is a very interesting point I hadn't immediately thought about. Well written!
@marinary1326
@marinary1326 5 ай бұрын
​@@AshwynChappellI'm sure there's possibly some degree to which this is true, especially in the later 19th century when Victorian cultural norms were really set in, but also something to consider... outside of romance novels/erotica, how much is underwear mentioned in novels even today? That's not because of some fear of sexuality, it's just because it's simply not relevant, just like lots of basic mundane elements of everyday life that aren't in any way exceptional to the characters or the readers. I'd lean towards that being the reason underwear doesn't come up much in these old classic novels. Everybody wears underwear, the people reading these novels presumably wore the same kind of underwear and so didn't need it spelled out to them any more so than you would.
@Cora-wh1rr
@Cora-wh1rr 5 ай бұрын
​@@marinary1326I would say that this is very close to the truth here. To us, corsets have taken on a romanticized sexualized meaning (though they are so amazingly beautiful that I'm glad they are stepping outside that light into a more broad use) but back when everyone word them they really were nothing but typical undergarments. Though there is also probably some truth in the fact that it was highly improper to talk about a ladies undergarments in media until relatively recent in a historical sense.
@Moocow2003
@Moocow2003 4 ай бұрын
Having just read a Victorian erotic novel (published 1893), I can tell you some of them were VERY interested in ladies' undergarments.
@tamaramoody1038
@tamaramoody1038 5 ай бұрын
i think the difference in silhouette has something to do with the fashionable silhouette of the time. in the early 2000s, low waisted jeans were in vogue. the longer corsets of the Victorian period did go along with the subcultures yes, but they also went along with the longer tops of that time. Now, with the staple of higher waist jeans/skirts and crop top combos, it makes sense that the corsets have adjusted their silhouettes to follow the modern trends. Longer historical corsets were more hourglass shaped, while stays were more conical and shorter, and that difference is being reflected in the modern versions.
@PaperTiger
@PaperTiger 5 ай бұрын
I thought of low-rise jeans immediately too. I was a teenager in the early 2000s and I thought anything that drew attention to my natural waist was SO ugly 😂
@bananachip92
@bananachip92 5 ай бұрын
This makes a lot of sense! As a short girlie I’ve been benefiting from recent trends for sure. Early 2000’s fashion was not kind of me 😂
@Ab3ndcgi
@Ab3ndcgi 5 ай бұрын
Back lacing as a mean of adjusting those long types of figures, has also become somewhat tacky and out of style in favor of zippers and strechy fabrics that cannot really adjust structurally to those shapes with just S M L sizing. Stays and bodice based tops are more shape-flexible and cheaper to produce, since they need mainly to fit around the bust without considering waist girth too much. Honestly, many actual corset type tops look like they are just trying to save on fabric and seams
@criticalmaz1609
@criticalmaz1609 5 ай бұрын
What I don't get is people who basically say "Oh, you like historical fashion? That must mean you want to live in the past and believe in all of their problematic viewpoints!" I'm like, "No, I just like clothes and nature. Jeez."
@sarahr8311
@sarahr8311 5 ай бұрын
I've come to love the statement "vintage fashion, not vintage values" for just that reason. I love petticoats and long skirts, and also antibiotics and the right to vote.
@parkerbrown-nesbit1747
@parkerbrown-nesbit1747 5 ай бұрын
I'm a Living Historian, so I spend a a lot of time in centuries other than my own. I love visiting, but I'm extremely happy to not live in those centuries!
@calistafalcontail
@calistafalcontail 5 ай бұрын
You hang around obnoxious woketards to much maybe and when I hear the word "problematic" coming up in someones argument, I turn my back cause I know I am talking to a constantly offended know it all with a miserable life. The past had some viewpoints that are better than todays too wghen it comes to certain things.
@bumpgrrl
@bumpgrrl 5 ай бұрын
no-one can get me to watch the whole sponsor segment like Bernadette! from film noir to the physical stunts to now the nature documentary of the guinea pigs... 😂 love it!
@markbernier8434
@markbernier8434 5 ай бұрын
Piggies stole the whole show.
@thebonniewong
@thebonniewong 5 ай бұрын
This was my FAVORITE ad experience ever. Please. More ads with the piggies 😍🤩😍
@DawnOldham
@DawnOldham 5 ай бұрын
The corset trend is also the number one fix for people who buy too-small dresses online and need a seamstress to make it fit!! 😂 they end up with a lace up back until the zipper can close!
@paintingdragons1828
@paintingdragons1828 5 ай бұрын
Did that to my moms wedding dress for my wedding
@lucie4185
@lucie4185 5 ай бұрын
Because of the rack clothes don't allow for weight fluctuation anymore.
@thatoneperson401
@thatoneperson401 5 ай бұрын
Had my wedding dress refitted with lacing so that I wouldn't have to worry about the fit changing with fluctuations from tastings, meals, stress, timing in my cycle, or whatever else. It's super useful, and I hope it can be in common use again
@arianewinter4266
@arianewinter4266 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I considered doing that with a second Hand Dress thet fit perfectly at my hips and waist, but my ribcage did not allow for IT to BE closed by Like 10 centimeters . . . .but I did Not fill the Cups so I Chose to leave IT BE for someone more dainty with bigger breasts . . . . Standardised Sizes are really wild
@arianewinter4266
@arianewinter4266 3 ай бұрын
​@@lucie4185Not Just that, they are Cut with a very specific Body Typ in mind and that Just might Not fit you at all, Intried Andreas in that fit perfectly around my waist and hip, the Cups where to Bug, but the Dress would Not Close, cause my rib Cage was to wide.
@graywulf19
@graywulf19 5 ай бұрын
See, that's how you get people to stop skipping the ad reads. Guinea pigs.
@The_Skrongler
@The_Skrongler 5 ай бұрын
I definitely did not understand the severity of those fetishwear associations when I first started wearing a corset for pain management. People got super weird about it lol Very glad to see that corsetry is becoming more socially accepted now! By the way thank you to Bernadette for getting me into corsetry in the first place! This has been wonderful for my health!
@maggpiprime954
@maggpiprime954 5 ай бұрын
I have become fed up with bras over the past decades. So now, after having watched you, and other historians building various styles of historical support garments, I finally started building my own. I'm no longer worrying about adhering to an accurate method or particular aesthetic, I'm just building what's (hopefully) practical for my body. They're more like stays, so I can wear jeans & tshirts. Second-hand chinos, dollar store needle/thread, solidified beeswax drippings to wax the thread. I ordered twill tape and synthetic boning. I have dollar store grosgrain ribbon to reinforce where I'm going to sew in eyelets for lacing. I'm hand sewing the whole thing coz I can't afford a sewing machine. I'm probably about 1/3 done. I'd've been finished by now if not for ADHD, lol
@kayo5291
@kayo5291 5 ай бұрын
You seem to have a handle on the project, you must not be a beginner? I'd be curious to see (or read) how it comes out.
@rainbowconnected
@rainbowconnected 5 ай бұрын
My fascination with historical fashion began because of my hatred of bras. I made a historical-ish support garment and will never go back. It feels like a hug and so much more comfy than any bra, even a sports bra. I hope yours turns out well and you love it! Imagine never needing to go bra shopping or spend outrageous amounts on a bra again!
@dees3179
@dees3179 5 ай бұрын
Second hand sewing machines. Often very very much cheaper. If you know someone who sews well and can check it for you this might be a way to get hold of one. You need something quite mechanical, not full of plastic parts that are at the end of their life span. But other than that if you can look for, forward, backwards, zigzag and change stitch length then that will probably do you fine for almost anything. And nearly every machine has those. Try to get a main brand because parts like bobbins are always available. Singer, brother, janome, ….there are a couple of other options, perhaps others will chime in. Don’t get an unknown brand. But my point is, you can get a decent machine without spending silly money.
@maggpiprime954
@maggpiprime954 5 ай бұрын
@@rainbowconnected Thank you! Your sharing of your experience and well wishes are very encouraging! 🤗💕
@maggpiprime954
@maggpiprime954 5 ай бұрын
@@dees3179 All very good info, thank you. I was already over-wordy, & felt that explaining that I do in fact, have a vintage/antique machine but can't afford to have it checked over, would distract from the overall... essay? My brain ain't braining right with words lately, and it likes yanking easier language from me in favour of more stilted stuff. I think I need a nap 🙃
@susanneberry236
@susanneberry236 5 ай бұрын
Bernadette Banner, as of late, I've seen with the knitting community a rise in separate tie-on/attachable ornate collars so, the possibility of multiple layer ruffled, ruffs, can comeback as a trend.
@bumpgrrl
@bumpgrrl 5 ай бұрын
literally knitting one of these right now!
@snazzypazzy
@snazzypazzy 5 ай бұрын
Ohh that sounds like fun!
@marinary1326
@marinary1326 5 ай бұрын
(Commenting before finishing the video, playing with fire) So in asking why the stays are the current popular style and the one embraced by cottagecore over Victorian corsets, I'd add an additional theory- that Victorian corsets with their busks and steel boning and such are associated with industrialized society, which is explicitly the opposite of the vibe that cottagecore is going for. Stays are literally from a time before industrialization, before much of modern society as we know it was built, a "simpler" time. Corsets are remembered as being worn by people living in cities populated by factories and trains and all sorts of manmade technology.
@DawnDavidson
@DawnDavidson 5 ай бұрын
Excellent point!
@friday13thirteen
@friday13thirteen 5 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same! The Victorian era is not particularly correlated with rural life in the collective aesthetic consciousness - obviously people have lived in rural areas in all periods throughout history, but if you tell the average person to "picture living in the Victorian era," they're probably imagining either a rapidly industrializing London or a Downton Abbey-style fancy manor house with servants, neither of which really evoke the homespun cottagecore vibe.
@ameranthe_
@ameranthe_ 5 ай бұрын
I was a goth kid who made her first corset in 1998, and I definitely remember the corsetry forums and trading tips. We were making dummies out of t-shirts, duct tape, and polyfill. I learned how to pound in grommets and where to order spiral steel. Since I have dabbled a bit in historical costuming, and I absolutely love that stays have come back into fashion! I can't get used to them being worn without an undershirt or chemise-like garment, it still looks a bit wrong to me.
@mayfieldcourt
@mayfieldcourt 5 ай бұрын
The 'corset hydra' and 'cottagecore'? You are an outstanding teacher. Thank you and keep it up!
@cmkrcs1
@cmkrcs1 5 ай бұрын
Correct usage of the work "gnarly"! I learn almost as much about language from her as I do about fashion
@alinarodgers
@alinarodgers 5 ай бұрын
I first got into corsets because I got into the early 2000's goth scene and I can’t say that I don't love seeing other subcultures embracing them now ❤
@BelleTeteRouge07
@BelleTeteRouge07 5 ай бұрын
Same and same! I adore that they are in fashion now!
@cheyennejudithcw
@cheyennejudithcw 5 ай бұрын
I’m waiting for the return of the codpiece. 🤣🤣🤣 that was always such a popular piece of fashion in my historical fashion class LOL
@SayGahTaah
@SayGahTaah 5 ай бұрын
Eh the same amount of people will still be dissapointed lol
@richelleg225
@richelleg225 5 ай бұрын
Sports cups aren't too far off
@pliktl
@pliktl 5 ай бұрын
Have you SEEN male ballet dancers?
@donnabaeten1185
@donnabaeten1185 5 ай бұрын
Brings back memories of Ian Andersen from Jethro Tull playing electric flute in a codpiece
@samanthahayman4539
@samanthahayman4539 5 ай бұрын
A friend of mine wore a codpiece at his Tudor styled wedding and rigged it up with one of those things that play a tune from a greeting card so that it would play when it got squeezed.
@cls3282
@cls3282 5 ай бұрын
I feel like which period corsetry comes back in style has a lot more to do with the waistline that is popular at the time. We are in an era of high waisted and crop tops so the Victorian style doesn't work as well with what is already in fashion. Back in the 2000s when everything was ultra low waisted, they made a lot more sense.
@KelsieJG__they-them
@KelsieJG__they-them 5 ай бұрын
Another piece of their return to popularity, in my opinion, was also the return of the popularity of bare midriff / short tops with high-waist bottoms. The need for cropped tops which still provide some support was a natural fashion hole that modern stays / "corsets" could fill.
@lenabreijer1311
@lenabreijer1311 5 ай бұрын
Regarding cottage core, one name you are missing is Laura Ashley. Late 70s and early 80s ruffles, simulated corsets. Pure cottage core. I made a few of those dresses because they were the absolute opposite of my work wardrobe of tailor-made suits.
@parkerbrown-nesbit1747
@parkerbrown-nesbit1747 5 ай бұрын
Jessica McClintock is another one.
@BellalinaBallerina
@BellalinaBallerina 5 ай бұрын
As a teenager in the 80’s I remember wanting to dress like Madonna and my mother greatly disapproving of that trend… Decades later and my kids loved everything about steampunk… I think it’s a great look! As a brilliant commentator said, they are called stays for a reason!
@scifirocks
@scifirocks 5 ай бұрын
Cloud, Pepper, Bingley and Darcy have asked me to request that you make more guinea pig content as they are noble but ever hungry creatures.
@gisela_oliveira
@gisela_oliveira 5 ай бұрын
As a novice seamstress and patternmaker, My gess for the popularity of satys over corsets, is that stays-like-tops are easier to make. the patern is simpler, since the conical shape requires no gussets or math, the straps make you sure the piece is secure in place, and there is no busk to worry about, in fact, you can have lacing in the front and the back, making a much more ajustable garment (the lacing straps also help for people with both short and long torso). I've made 2 victorian corsets for myself, and never made a pattern for one, since it seems really hard, but in the last months i've made 2 pattern for stays, ive made 5 garments out of them, 3 were from upcycled jeans pants, and i've also turned a old dress that didn't fit me inot another stays shaped little top. victorian corset are a lot harder to make and need more engeniering, they need to fit you very well and are really unconfortable when not fitting, whyle stays can be very forgiving and ajustable
@chillfactory9000
@chillfactory9000 5 ай бұрын
Was planning on cosplaying Astarion from BG3 and wanted to make a corset just for the looks, but now this comment is making me think I should start with stays instead. Either way, they both look pretty, so it's a win win.
@thundercat287
@thundercat287 5 ай бұрын
My thought was that stays seem more similar to bras in that they support by holding up from the top compared to corsets supporting from under. As a trans person, they look like a binder in that there's less of cups and more straight lines. 😅 Most of my binders were 3/4 length, approximately where the waist drops off on a stay. So I think structurally, a stay is more bra-like, appealing more to people who can try it out without feeling as weird. For corsets, there's still the misconceptions going about on cinching waists too tight so there's definitely also a fear factor in there. People have to be much more daring to give corsets a try, unless it's already part of their aesthetic.
@gisela_oliveira
@gisela_oliveira 5 ай бұрын
@@chillfactory9000 stays are definitely easier. My 2 attempts at corset making ended up too long for my short body, is really hard to get them right. I definitely recommend trying out if you want, but if is a costume that you plan on using, I would go with an easier option
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH 5 ай бұрын
@@thundercat287 Properly constructed bras support from the bottom though.
@thundercat287
@thundercat287 5 ай бұрын
@@YaaLFH I guess you mean with wires. I've never actually worn a wired bra since I didn't have much to support. It just looked painful to me to have something that hard so close to the skin when I normally wear baggy clothes.
@megankellyhensley
@megankellyhensley 5 ай бұрын
Christmas video idea: I would like you to analyze the historical costuming in all the different versions of a Christmas Carol. I just think it would be interesting to how the different movies compared to each other and they’re all referencing the same story and time period. 🎄
@KristenK78
@KristenK78 5 ай бұрын
Abby Cox did a video about how accurate the outfits in Muppet Christmas Carol are, a few years ago! Even for the puppets, the costumes are just amazing, really.
@nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme
@nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme 3 ай бұрын
ah i watched it live, it was very good but i was wondering about the historical accuracy. no one seemed to be wearing corsets but to be fair they were singing and dancing live
@MaryanneNZ
@MaryanneNZ 5 ай бұрын
In the 90s, I made dozens of wedding and evening gowns for people based on 18th C and Renaissance garments. The look was BIG, and it was stays-based though we didn't call them that (before the internet there wasn't a lot to learn from) and down in NZ we didn't have much of a range of materials to work with. I have to smile at making a lace up the front bodice and pushing piping cord down the boning channels to make them more ridgy. Those were the days! ;-)
@roxiepoe9586
@roxiepoe9586 5 ай бұрын
I watch your promo spots. It astonishes me that all of the marketing world has not yet learned from you that ads can be engaging. Your humor and distinctly off center point of view are brilliant.
@darleneengebretsen1468
@darleneengebretsen1468 5 ай бұрын
That was actually a great commercial!
@kenfreeman8888
@kenfreeman8888 5 ай бұрын
As someone who doesn't understand why so much of the fashion industry spends a lot of effort trying to make things look hideous, I very much appreciate how eloquently you analyze and describe things. I've learned a lot from your videos. Thank you.
@Merdragoon
@Merdragoon 5 ай бұрын
I'm so glad that you mentioned the Romantization of the Past part. Though I would argue this went back even farther during even the Renissance and 1600s, but in paintings mostly. (we talked about this in my main classes for my Art Historian Bacholars Degree) They romantized the Medivial garb quite a bit and it wasn't that far ago, but they also romantized the Greeks an roman garb which *some* argue that the Edwardian took some of the sillouettes from due to paintings of the past gave such a romancization of them. The Togas have similar shapes to the Edwardian women's dresses, just more structored. Rococo paintings also compounded the Romanization of both the "Rural Aethetic" but also the Greek myths even more. Just with extreamly floaty and pastel melancholy of missing the "ease of the past" where you could "lounge around in the beautiful sun and simple love." It was also a counter balance to the Baroque's Dyamic, over the top theatrics of heavy fabrics and harsh lines to read a scene since Rococo was also very painterly in comparison. Marie Antonitte preferred of course the Roccoco Aethetic over the Baroque when you see paintings of herself and the "cottage core" lean to her personal attire. (I would go on even more so but this comment would take forever to write so for now I'll leave it here)
@karladenton5034
@karladenton5034 5 ай бұрын
Don't forget to add in the Arts and Crafts movement "Artistic and Reform Dress" - Medieval Romanticism Take Whatever LOL.
@clara_hp6254
@clara_hp6254 5 ай бұрын
The romantic period in writing also romanized the medieval times a lot and during the enlightenment, everything Greek and Roman was hugely popular
@Merdragoon
@Merdragoon 5 ай бұрын
@@karladenton5034 We actually touched a *little* on that but not enough to honestly stick unfortantly. Though honestly I would love to learn more about that movement because some artsts do actually pull from that time and if you have any reccomendations on reading for that infomation, I would love that! (Sorry for the long reply, I wanted to reply sooner but things kept taking prioriety after I posted)
@Merdragoon
@Merdragoon 5 ай бұрын
@@clara_hp6254 ^Yeah I was considering putting that in since I learned this in my Fairy Tale class I took in collage but noticed it was rather long already so I just stuck to one medium in this case that was core study at the time (and also I didn't want to spread misinfomation for those who did study more into it). But you are correct on this from what I remember from that class. Thank you for confirming that thought.
@katmallowcreates
@katmallowcreates 5 ай бұрын
The modern style of "corset" was very popular in the late-90's/early 2000's (source: Owned several high street versions, including a black one with pink piping that I wore until it fell apart. Paired with some lovely low cut jeans). Which fits given early 2000's fashion seems to be coming back.
@Sophie_Cleverly
@Sophie_Cleverly 5 ай бұрын
This is true! I had a pink and black one too, and a green one from Jane Norman 😆 I was wearing them for goth reasons but I got them from normal high street shops
@katmallowcreates
@katmallowcreates 5 ай бұрын
@@Sophie_Cleverly Same. It was a pretty good time to be a goth with very little money 😂
@nica93
@nica93 5 ай бұрын
Oh, thank goodness Bernadette mentioned Marie Antoinette. She truly was the OG of Cottagecore! ❤ thanks for putting her credit in this video Bernadette!! 🥰 love it!
@ghostmistwho
@ghostmistwho 5 ай бұрын
1:24 this is the greatest ad break I have ever seen
@jeenaceleste
@jeenaceleste 5 ай бұрын
I thought the modern interpretation was referred to as a “bustier” top, the styles that aren’t corsets. I feel like “corset” gets added to the title/description of the clothing for sale because it’s a vaguely similar but far more common word
@SaraAmis
@SaraAmis 5 ай бұрын
Bodices/stays worn as an external garment has been a staple of the Renaissance Festival circuit since the 80s/90s at least, and worn outside of that context as well. Source: my social circles in my 20s.
@Sophie_Cleverly
@Sophie_Cleverly 5 ай бұрын
I love that you used that cropped picture of Amy Lee but I immediately recognised her 😆 can't take the 2000s goth teen out of me... (though I also immediately recognised denim Britney because she was my 90s obsession lol)
@sharlaidrey7898
@sharlaidrey7898 5 ай бұрын
I would love to see a modern interpretation of gates to hell surcotte. Or "viking" apron dress. Mainly because I would love to wear my more historical pieces to work and still be within the office dresscode :D I just... can you imagine the staff meetings?
@katanah3195
@katanah3195 5 ай бұрын
I've heard from people who worked in very old companies, with very outdated office dress codes that simply hadn't ever been reviewed or revised after their initial establishment - sometimes these are people already into historical dress, sometimes they're very modern mainstream people trying to perform malicious compliance, either way the outcome is similar, they end up wearing clothing to work that is very much out of fashion - but is technically what the dress code calls for - and a series of meetings about the dress code ensue.
@sharlaidrey7898
@sharlaidrey7898 5 ай бұрын
@@katanah3195 oh yeah, I am already helping to change the maintenance uniforms, and on the coldest days walking around like a Victorian peasant in homeknitted garments. To push it all the way to viking age might be a bit much 😁
@morgonerlenstar
@morgonerlenstar 5 ай бұрын
I love wearing my corsets. Sometimes as undergarment and sometimes to “show” them off. Older women sort of freak out but the younger ones don’t comment at all. Hilarious. Thank you for all your information and of course showing off your Guinea Pigs 💕
@bunhelsingslegacy3549
@bunhelsingslegacy3549 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for more food for thought. The idea that corsets and stays can help support the heavy skirts was what resonated, cause I'm trying to figure out what I need to wear underneath my plate mail battle armour so that my hips don't end up bruised by all the stuff hanging off of them. Now I'm considering maybe corded stays or corset just to try to put something between my armour belt and my spare tire so that things squish in a predictable and controlled manner rather than "if you didn't get your belt on exactly right you're gonna pinch something" :P
@GingerSnapping
@GingerSnapping 5 ай бұрын
I love Bernadettes videos on corset and stays and other supportive garments. I wear Corsets on long days as supportive garmets to help me from slouching and giving my muscles a rest. Having EDS my muscles are always holding me up because my connective tissue is too weak to hold me up like a normal body. I think its awesome to see them more popularised and used as garmet pieces.
@TheGFeather
@TheGFeather 5 ай бұрын
A very House Hippo style ad break. Made me giggle. I still want a house hippo!
@gerileemakes
@gerileemakes 5 ай бұрын
With regards to cottagecore's preference for stays over corsets, I think there might also be an association between Victorian meaning industrialization that lends to 19th century meaning a more simple, homespun life style.
@Beryllahawk
@Beryllahawk 5 ай бұрын
I wonder if something like Rational Dress or even "actual" medieval styles might make an appearance next. That'd be pretty awesome. I actually own a corset - haven't worn it in quite some time just because it's often FAR too hot in the southeastern US to be putting on such a thing, esp for a heavyset "Viking shaped" lady like myself, haha - I also was thinking - fashion is very visual, right, and I think you've mentioned before this that one of the factors in making 18th and 19th Century clothing more "familiar" (or do I mean, more of a thing that everyday folks can look at and say "hey I've seen something like that before!") - anyway, there was something of an explosion of fashion magazines, fashion plates in newspapers, and other such media in the late 18th Century, I think? So that now, every shop girl and nearly every village girl could get a glimpse of what the "famous people" were wearing - and wanted to emulate it where they could! I feel like that also plays a big part in how we got to this trend, but even more so it continues to feed the cycle. I would not know half as much as I do about ANY historical dress if I hadn't discovered your channel, after all. Everything I "know" about medieval clothing I learned out of books and from actually making a few costumes over the years, but I feel like the visual medium - watching you create and sew and design - has given me a different KIND of understanding of the clothing construction for the items you've focused on. I also know my sewing skills are very much NOT up to a standard that can handle making anything from 1600 on, haha! I have so much respect and awe for the skill you display so often and for the immense amount of time, energy, research, and practice that you've poured into your passion. It's truly lovely to share in the wonders you show us.
@friday13thirteen
@friday13thirteen 5 ай бұрын
I could totally see medieval styles coming back sometime soon! I'm noticing medieval aesthetics on the rise in goth/alt circles (although that may be my own personal tastes that pushes that content in my algorithm lol), and knightcore is a somewhat popular niche of the cottagecore extended trend universe. Plus on the more lighthearted side of things, I've seen an uptick in memes and tiktoks celebrating or feeling nostalgic about that particular style of 90s/Y2K Ren-faire dark fantasy goth art/fashion (impossible to describe haha but you'd know it when you see it, sort of the goth equivalent of that "three wolf moon t-shirt" style), which would have been considered the height of cringe a few years ago but now seems to be cresting the wave of ironic appreciation into "unironically good actually". Personally I'm thrilled with the corset revival and would be equally excited for a medieval trend surge; it feels like it's never been easier to find cute clothes from mainstream brands as someone kinda gothy who still needs to dress like an adult.
@anAngeal
@anAngeal 5 ай бұрын
I actually wore a corset to my friend’s wedding. It was the most comfortable undergarment I had for spending a long time dressed up. Looked good too!
@NJase
@NJase 5 ай бұрын
My personal attribute of cottagecore in my life goes all the way back to the very first issue of Victoria Magazine in 1987. My mother subscribed to the magazine all the way till its stoppage in 2003. In the back of every issue were mail order forms for historical corset patterns from multiple eras, not just Victorian. Combine the ad section for shoes, skirts, shirts, and foundations of times gone by with the garden fairy frolicking photo extravaganza for the eyeballs in its color pages, and it was a recipe for much daydreaming of what my wardrobe was going to look like when I was in control of what I purchased and wore. Add the internet sales of everything under the sun decades later and suddenly the world of fashion is no longer limited by what you can get mail ordered through the local general store you visit twice a year on trips into town from the homestead. if the internet has done nothing else, it has freed us to be anything we can imagine being by giving us access to the resources to achieve it no matter where you live.
@audraleahealing
@audraleahealing 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely LOVED devouring my mom’s issues of Victoria Magazine. ♥️
@lindataylor5779
@lindataylor5779 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting vlog as usual. The term 'Cottage core" was preceded by the Pastoral movement, romanticizing the close-to-nature lives of shepherds and shepherdesses, which goes back to Daphnis and Chloe in Greek literature, but had its greatest flowering during the Renaissance in Italy, France and England and continued in literature, painting, dance and as fashionable dress among aristocrats like Marie Antoinette. Aphra Behn (1640 - 1689), the first woman to support herself as a writer in England, was so enamored of the novels Astrea and Celadon (L'Astree) by the French author Honore D'Urfe, that she wrote under the pastoral pseudonym Astrea.
@dawnriddle-knowlton9932
@dawnriddle-knowlton9932 5 ай бұрын
Intriguing astute contribution TY
@annafirnen4815
@annafirnen4815 5 ай бұрын
11/10 advertisement. Would watch a whole documentary like that 😂
@segbaillie2824
@segbaillie2824 5 ай бұрын
Another aspect of the fossilisation/romanticisation of C18th fashions is that, for reasons which I believe may be linked to the timing of the industrialisation of Europe/America, most traditional national costumes are based on what was being worn in the relevent area during the C18th. Dirndl costumes being the most obvious example. This look is then associated with fairy tale characters and influences ballet costumes as well as, of course, cottage-core.
@LilyGrace95
@LilyGrace95 5 ай бұрын
Honestly Bernadette, I got mine because of you 😅 My partner got a little raise this summer, so took me to get some proper ones in Camden. I have two; an underbust corset, and an overbust. The woman in the shop tried sooooo many on me because I have "the perfect combo" (big boobs/hips and tiny waist). Had to learn how to lace them (as did my partner), and wear them in for like, a week. I adore them, and it's thanks to you 😊❤
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like you enjoyed your visit to Burleska!
@LilyGrace95
@LilyGrace95 5 ай бұрын
@@YaaLFH that's a grandiose assumption to make given I never named the shop. What's Burleska?
@YaaLFH
@YaaLFH 5 ай бұрын
@@LilyGrace95 Burleska is the corset shop in Camden Market.
@LilyGrace95
@LilyGrace95 5 ай бұрын
@@YaaLFH Not the shop I went to 😅
@ediedbdbd7902
@ediedbdbd7902 5 ай бұрын
Please, oh please, I hope Bernadette’s video teaches people that it’s not pronounced “core-set”! And was that our Rachel Maksy in a cottage core example?!?❤️
@marymugge1523
@marymugge1523 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the blast from the past with the dial up noises. I adored the corsets in the 2000s but never had the nerve to get one for myself. And this is so timely as I'm just about to finish making my first stay-style corset. Lovely trip through history as always, Bernadette.
@FairyRosee_
@FairyRosee_ 5 ай бұрын
Can you do an updated wardrobe try on? I have watched your dark/witchy academia video several times! Your new pieces fit so well!
@Palitato
@Palitato 5 ай бұрын
That was the first sponser spot I've watched all the way through in a while. Well done.
@padawanofconfusion5954
@padawanofconfusion5954 5 ай бұрын
same! cute pets are a cheatcode
@suecarol1563
@suecarol1563 5 ай бұрын
Bernadette' s sponsor spots are the best!
@ArachneAnathema
@ArachneAnathema 5 ай бұрын
You have made me aware of the beauty and comfort of corsets. I love a foundation garment as opposed to trying to sculpt one’s own body into an impossible shape. My mother’s foundation garment was a girdle and I thought it looked uncomfortable and unattractive. Saving up for a handmade corset, because, alas, I take no joy in my pitiful sewing skills.
@MinaVanBerh
@MinaVanBerh 5 ай бұрын
Can I just point out that - beside your generally great video content - you are also making the best sponsor advertisements! They are so funny and creative 😄
@Aurriel
@Aurriel 5 ай бұрын
Here as a represent of ealry 2000s subculture! 00:51 this in dark-green still lives in my closet.
@rebeccaarcher5139
@rebeccaarcher5139 5 ай бұрын
I love your "professor" mode and your humor!
@emilymarie.6321
@emilymarie.6321 5 ай бұрын
Im with you on the Ruff. I have one, but im scared to wear it with anything bc i dont wanna get clowned on quite literally
@masterofpockets9273
@masterofpockets9273 5 ай бұрын
I saw a video recently where someone experimented with making a chest binder inspired by stays. I think it would be cool if these kinds of corset-inspired garments stick around a little, because as I’ve heard mention of, I think from this channel, they allow the creation of different silhouettes without permanent alterations to the body underneath. Which could be useful for a lot of different reasons! I’ve forgotten a lot about the topic of corsets/stays; I should look more into them.
@CrownPrinceKnut
@CrownPrinceKnut 3 ай бұрын
What's the name of the video? I'd love to watch it. 🐻‍❄️
@marietheotaku94
@marietheotaku94 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Bernadette, Heathcliff and Danny! Great work as usual
@barbaraanne2136
@barbaraanne2136 5 ай бұрын
If the garments of the 18th century used so much fabric and lace, how many "day wear" garments did a woman own and rotate thru the week? Today we have larger closets and more money to spend on "day wear" fashion. I appreciate your mention of the cyclical nature of fashion elements. The historical context you bring to the discussion adds a sense of authenticity that I am looking for. For a long time, we have been told untruths about period fashion by way of theatrical productions that claim to "know" the correct fashions to depict a period. Error has been repeated until we think we "know". Is it that we want the romance rather than the truth?
@iprobablyforgotsomething
@iprobablyforgotsomething 5 ай бұрын
Probably not near as many as modern people have to rotate through. Puts me in mind of anime and/or cartoon characters, always wearing the same outfit for "budget" reasons. x'D But fr, they probably had more underlayers, like shifts, so that they could get the most wear out of clothes before washing their outer-most layers (laundry was so back-breaking and time-intensive). Especially since clothing in general was expensive, just the cloth even before you get into intricate details of an actual outfit. And nobody (middle class or lower) wanted to ruin one of their between 1 and maybe 3 good dresses.
@verenakremer6748
@verenakremer6748 5 ай бұрын
I think the idyllic Hobbit-scenes in the Lord of the Ring movies were also responsible for the rise of cottage-core popularity
@alexandriatrenier7366
@alexandriatrenier7366 5 ай бұрын
I love that you mentioned Westwood. She is the reason i started to love stays and corsets and broke me out of the stigma against them. I also love the sexy aspect that the 2000s had on the corset. I don’t know I just really like it. So I see the corset and a symbol of sexual liberation.
@Familylawgroup
@Familylawgroup 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I am surprised you went business attire for this video but it was a nice alternative to watching you wear a corset and discuss it. I am curious, by the way, if you might consider doing a video on the business blazer like you wear. I am a lawyer. I am limited in my work wear and I have to go through metal detectors. I, quite literally, have to think about metal detectors for my shoes, even. Too many people have to remove shoes and belts to enter court for my taste. I like your blazer and I don’t know if you made that or bought it. It looks great on you. I don’t know anything about sewing other than what you have said but I can imagine blazers like what you wear here is more complicated that capes, etc. I know Dior made the Bar suit famous, but most lawyers don’t wear couture to court. I rejected heels, due to discomfort, and opt for flats and boots, despite being 5 feet tall. I would love a great video on the evolution of women’s career wear, from the Victorian period onward. We have seen staff uniform videos, but I am talking about the woman fighting for respect in a sea of testosterone like Gentleman Jack’s character. Beyond the “first women” in a field, I am interested in the wardrobe evolution when the women are not an odd site but still an obvious minority while trending towards balance.
@tristambre632
@tristambre632 5 ай бұрын
I'm so ready for the comeback of elizabethan ruffled collars, can't wait to wear mine in public. Oh how much patience is needed when you're an avant-gardiste.
@keizen7324
@keizen7324 5 ай бұрын
I'm a experimental artist who minored in classics once upon a time, and your channel is my favorite on youtube! I leaned all my sewing knowledge from you and managed to make my first ever costume (entirely handsewn)! Thank you for all you do!
@vadj5483
@vadj5483 5 ай бұрын
Fascinating, this is the sort of video I love from Bernadette Banner! Btw, on non-ironic return of the ruff: I think it make be closer than you think. Tie on collars have become a thing recently. They were a few years ago too, but the ones today are much wider and showier, squint and they're not unlike some of the lace collars from c.17-19 centuries. Also, in the National Gallery shop at the end of the Frans Hals exhibition I saw lace tie-on collars and ruff-like wristbands that imitated some of the portraits. Perhaps a niche subculture (think dark academia), but maybe a sign of things to come (here's hoping lol!).
@KristenK78
@KristenK78 5 ай бұрын
I wonder if the tie-on collars are thanks, in part, to RBG?
@phoenixfritzinger9185
@phoenixfritzinger9185 5 ай бұрын
In my mom’s opinion they’re also better than modern shapewear like the SPANX because it’s a lot easier for her to use the bathroom in and they give the exact same effect as a SPANX
@TheGabygael
@TheGabygael 5 ай бұрын
i just love that scene in briderton where they"tight-lace" regency long stays because they put so much effort in making something soft smooth and rounded look compressive it looks like a fluffy teddy bear trying to me menacing
@aerolb
@aerolb 5 ай бұрын
Greatly educational video. Love seeing the modernization and changes. Also the piggies❤
@helenwright413
@helenwright413 5 ай бұрын
I wish I could "super like" this video. I was absolutely riveted! This entire video is my asthetic 💖✨I've been obsessed with corsets my whole life. Vivienne Westwood was my fashion icon back in the 90's, her and Versace. I just LOVE structual garments and bringing my two passions together: historical fashion and haute couture. Thank you, Bernadette, for producing such a brilliant video. It was well researched, beautifully spoken, agreeable, and entertaining 👏 I love this new fashion era we're getting now, with the cottage core, steam punk, dark acedemia asthetics ❤ This is right up my alley. I love that we, as adults, can wear whatever the hell we want now 💃 And with Bernadette leading the charge ⚔for us to be ourselves and wear what makes us happy, we're in safe hands. Big love from Manchester UK xXx
@jeisnekskw9878
@jeisnekskw9878 5 ай бұрын
Would you ever do a video on how Japan also has made a big break in the fashion world with Lolita and ouji that are loosely based off period fashion
@SavageBubblegum
@SavageBubblegum 5 ай бұрын
'Why is corsetry so popular these days', said one of the top contributors of the costube genre 😅
@antikathy
@antikathy 5 ай бұрын
OK but can we talk about how many of the bridgerton actresses complain about how uncomfortable their corsets are? Why are they not putting them in proper fitting ones? This is not a matter of budget constraints. So many details have been attended to, but the most important foundational garment doesn't fit right? Seems odd
@ah5721
@ah5721 5 ай бұрын
They don't wear a undershirt with them.
@antikathy
@antikathy 5 ай бұрын
You are right! No shifts! SMH. Of course. OK then, why don't they make them some "shiftlets" or something
@maya-gur695
@maya-gur695 5 ай бұрын
I don't know about corset back then, but I feel like modern "corsets" only look good if you have C cups or smaller. I've never found a corset top that looks good on my larger bust and I want to be able to participate in this corset trend so bad 😢
@melowlw8638
@melowlw8638 5 ай бұрын
maybe more historical shapes like the really straight one from stays and the very curved one from later 1800s years would work?? if sized appropriately for u im sure it would look good since its originally meant to be an adaptable garment, like a bra i mean underwear is worn by everyone regardless of size right 👀👀 so were corsets!! they were at their core undergarments used to support the fabrics of the clothes so everyone could wear one the question of if they looked good i think is subjective obviously, but theres bias against fat/fatter bodies so we rarely see them in corsets when talking abt historical clothing, but if u look at pictures there's people of every size and they all look good (at least to me), because their clothes fit them i dont think u can trust big companies to make good looking corset-ish clothes but smaller businesses might work even if the ones inclusive to bigger breasts and bodies are rare
@clarisesilver1931
@clarisesilver1931 5 ай бұрын
There is historical portraiture of some truly well-endowed women, so I guess back-then corsets worked fine for ladies of your silhouette. Although the purpose of the historical ones was to provide lift, and that doesn’t seem to be what modern ones are going for. I hope you can find a garment that satisfies your needs ❤
@e_viola
@e_viola 5 ай бұрын
It's because most stores don't pattern them by cup size like they should
@nicche511
@nicche511 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@melowlw8638idk that there’s been historical bias against fat bodies so much as there was just not a lot of people with bigger bodies. many people could not afford to eat beyond basic survival, and nutrition was quite poor. food was also not highly processed and high in fats and corn syrups like it is today. not saying that fatness is always caused by overeating, but it was just not really feasible to gain much weight if you were, for example, some farmer’s kid and food availability depended on the quality of the harvest that year, even if you did have medical factors that were pre disposed to making you bigger. malnourishment was frequent among the enormous working class. in some cultures, fatness was actually a desirable trait because it was a sign of wealth and fertility 😊 bigger bodies haven’t become common until the past 80 years or so, and the bias came along with that.
@jennifervasquez
@jennifervasquez 5 ай бұрын
Thats so interesting to hear bc i have a smaller bust (b cup maybe a bit smaller idk i havent worn a bra in years) n was disappointed that even a corset couldnt give me cleavage bc part of my inspiration for adopting the corset look was seeing people with busts of various sizes wear them n thinking it made theirs look amazing n wanting to replicate the effect (i specifically remember one picture i saw was of sydney sweeney n she has a really large bust). Its likely that you and i have entirely different aesthetic goals in mind and thats where our perceptions differ.
@arithesimsfan
@arithesimsfan 5 ай бұрын
The ad from the sponsor! Omg! I LOOOVE that you do something creative with it, and i looove seeing your lovely guinnea pig on screen! Here some more exclamation points to get my point across!!!!!!!!!!!
@jeannieappelhof1791
@jeannieappelhof1791 5 ай бұрын
You certainly are a master writer of whatever topic you deem worthy of your energy. I’m sure you could turn all your research articles into a wonderful book if you wanted to. Very nicely done as usual. Thank you for your insights. I’m sure you could teach a class about all these historical trends even. 😊
@astrogallus
@astrogallus 5 ай бұрын
I too am awaiting the return of the fashionable ruff with bated breath! I love stays/corsets. I made my first patterns for Elizabethan and 18th century stays/corset in the early 90s. I've been obsessed for decades and have kept revising and improving my patterns over the years. I just love them and glad to see them reenter fashion in a big way. They should have never gone away, just like the ruff. 🙂
@Jacquiarno
@Jacquiarno 5 ай бұрын
Great video as always! :) I want to add another way of how some of us attained corsets during the earlier days, especially for the goth/alt scene, was going to "spicy" shops, that's where I got my first corset from, haha, especially when they were on the sales racks. Even "spicy" conventions were a great way to find them, I was able to get 3 very beautiful corsets for the price of one. They are still in great condition as well but they no longer fit me, and I've now switched from corsets to corset belts, which I am so thankful are easier to find and more affordable in price, haha.
@catherinejustcatherine1778
@catherinejustcatherine1778 5 ай бұрын
So eloquent So many great points So much cute Guinea Pig content 🌞💖🎉
@Hakaze
@Hakaze 5 ай бұрын
I'd love to se a retun of ruffs, but before that, we need a return of the cravatt. I'm doing my part, so if more could switch out the tie, we could start a movement 😀
@kerri3946
@kerri3946 5 ай бұрын
I always love your videos on corsets. As an elder goth I have a great fondness of them and love how the current young people are exploring in ways I never would have imagined being 'acceptable' But, more piggy interruptions please :)
@oldstuffbethtx8052
@oldstuffbethtx8052 5 ай бұрын
Can’t believe you didn’t mention the iconic scene in Gone with the Wind of Scarlett being laced into her corset insisting that it be tighter. Civil War era. I think that was my first exposure, like many since the 1930’s because it was such a popular/classic film.
@_oaktree_
@_oaktree_ 5 ай бұрын
Probably because it's been mentioned ad nauseum in a thousand other videos, including others she's done on corsets. This video was not on corsets anyway.
@phoebeclayton3362
@phoebeclayton3362 5 ай бұрын
love this video!! I think another significant factor in the cottagecore aesthetic trend adapting/adopting something closer to 18th century stays than a victorian corset is the connection of cottagecore with de-industrial, rural slow living. The 19th century (and ergo its fashion) carries connotations of industrialisation and urbanisation which contradict the home-made, rustic ideals of cottagecore. Whereas, 18th century is idealised (both by us and the victorian Romantics) as a sort of pre-mechanisation, pastoral and unspoilt environment. It thus seems obvious to me that cottagecore would lean towards the 18th century rather than the 19th when looking for aesthetic inspiration.
@sarahparkerson7579
@sarahparkerson7579 5 ай бұрын
You are my top pick for person to unironically bring back the ruff
@Mommamacnz
@Mommamacnz 5 ай бұрын
Really fascinating and I must also say I was riveted to your sponsorship spot. Normally I skip over them but this one was just *chef's kiss*
@taricat.s
@taricat.s 5 ай бұрын
it's always a good day when Bernadette posts 🌞
@Spicylolipop
@Spicylolipop 5 ай бұрын
I dipped my toes into the corset trend for fun and saw great results in reducing back pain caused from hypermobility and sitting in a desk all day. Now I have a collection of steel boned corsets and will probably never go back to bras.
@KZ-np8fz
@KZ-np8fz 5 ай бұрын
Adorable how you crawl under furniture to follow and photograph your little guinea pig. I love your channel, you are so much fun and the clothes are stunning.
@debcarroll8192
@debcarroll8192 5 ай бұрын
Yes! Bring back the ruff! I love them!!!
@lstelts1224
@lstelts1224 4 ай бұрын
I'm obsessed with the idea of a corset without "hard" boning. I have a hard time working with hard boning and would love to learn how to make one of those
@socpancake
@socpancake 5 ай бұрын
thank you for these educational fashion history deep dives, always a fascinating trip!
@cocoabeachcbbc1458
@cocoabeachcbbc1458 4 ай бұрын
I still remember the expression on the face of the clerks/saleswomen at the clothing store I visited in 1990 looking for a fuschia bustier (or similar corset or stay, but the internet did not exist so I did not know the term) to go with the beautiful boxy silk feminine blazer I had at the time. For an modest and somewhat naive young lady, I certainly scandalized half the city looking for something I never found (had to settle for an unstructured tank top)
@cocoabeachcbbc1458
@cocoabeachcbbc1458 4 ай бұрын
Ivory. I forgot to mention the color of the silk blazer. I loved that thing
@lalunalilac
@lalunalilac 5 ай бұрын
as a person who loves history and had no idea of corsetry, i just learned a lot from you
@user-jt7jn7lo7w
@user-jt7jn7lo7w Ай бұрын
I think Bernadette needs to give herself some credit for starting the corset/stay trend because I remember seeing her red dress copycat video appear several times in my feed in 2019 and then going down the rabbit hole of corsets, then quarantine hit.
@minyasx
@minyasx 5 ай бұрын
I love how excited you are to talk about it! I love corsetry ugh
@stoutyyyy
@stoutyyyy 5 ай бұрын
I’m loving this kind of content! There are a whole bunch of historically-inspired trends I’ve noticed lately that could be a future topic. I know menswear isn’t your speciality, but I’ve seen a lot more incorporation of vintage military surplus pieces into outfits (including actual military uniforms, the U.S. Army just brought back their WW2-style uniforms). There’s certainly a lot of history in that area that could be fascinating.
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