Uncovering the Mystery: The First Lost Colony - A Riveting Historical Investigation

[@larryoffranklin2634]

Years ago, a local lady authored a small book about the Lost Colony was never lost, that John White on returning from England with more settlers and supplies, simply went to the wrong island of Roanoke, instead of where the colony was on Ocracoke Island. On research maps, the islands inlets would look almost identical and storms constantly change the shifting sands of the barrier islands. She also used the fact of the common language of Ocracoke Island to be more Elizabethan English than any other American English of other settlements. The natives also had surnames common the the Lost Colony. That "hoi tiders" or high tider Old English is still spoken by the old families there. So many theories, so many stories.

[@davidkiser5250]

That's interesting. Will have to look into it for my own information. Seems like I have heard a similar possibility for moving inland and possibly assimilating with the Native American population (can't recall where right off though.)

[@jeffbybee5207]

Except they visited the fort they had helped build 3 years before and saw the word croaton carved into the gate post. So being on the wrong side of the island or wrong island would not be possible

[@ghostmost2614]

If you look at what Indians did for centuries, the men were brutally killed and the women and children were assimilated, unless the kids cried a lot, then they too were killed.

[@t.c.2776]

@@jeffbybee5207 that was my first thought... they found the fort empty... if they were on the wrong island they would not have found anything...

[@rachelann9362]

The born and bred folks of Tangier Island in the Chesapeake Bay in Accomack County also has a very distinct dialect and lexicon that is often compared to Hoi Tider. With the level of sea rise, Tangier may no longer exist in a generation or two.

[@jessicaluffman375]

I'm so glad to call north Carolina my home ❤

[@ExploringCreationVids]

I appreciate your kind words. North Carolina truly holds a special place in my heart.

[@alanwareham7391]

John Cabot in the Mathew explored the US coast in 1497 which was many years before Drake and not long after Columbus landed on the Island of Hispaniola, and the same as today they would have used pottery and other storage items from all over Europe to keep food in but they would have been discarded when they were empty as not all were essential to supply the ship , I think that these are more likely to have been used by a small expedition rather than any permanent settlement .in 1498 Cabot went on another expedition with 5 ships and 300 men but then records fade as to what happened to them although it is rumoured that one ship was found in Ireland but the mystery is what happened to the other ships and more intriguingly did these men make it to America

[@rondalee6415]

We need an American "Time Team" program like they have in UK .

[@mattmatt6572]

They made some American episodes. It wasn't near as good a show they had a different team

[@georgevaughan1287]

The format doesn’t work with Archeology as it’s practiced in America. They tried to do it once and the vibe was completely different.

[@asburycollins9182]

There was one once

[@asburycollins9182]

​@@mattmatt6572an american show exists. 4 episodes i think

[@OriginalNiceButOdd]

Not enough history

[@DeadBlonde_80]

I’m from San Juan Capistrano and we learn about the Spanish, Conquistador and the mission system. It was very sad. But yeah, California has the missions built in 1600-1700.

[@ExploringCreationVids]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge about the mission system in San Juan Capistrano.

[@thejoycatcher8189]

My dad’s side of the family is from that area. He was born in Marion. The Poteet/Poteat lines have been around Burke/McDowell counties for hundreds of years. He left in the mid 1940’s after his father past. There are so many cousins I haven’t met. This makes me want to get up there even more! Fascinating! Such an important place in history we didn’t even know existed until pretty recently. It always excites me when truth comes to light. Thank you for sharing!

[@ExploringCreationVids]

Wow, sounds like you've got a whole family reunion waiting for you up there! Better start planning your trip ASAP before your cousins throw a party without you!

[@TerriAnnNiemeier-dy3no]

My goodness yes, my Jamestowne Fort family information always said although they came in 1608, there were Spaniards here first. In VA I came across a friend there who found old Spanish coins in VA

[@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage]

This is awesome

[@stanleymillen2536]

My son found a Spanish coin I think it's called a cob in gloucester va while metal detecting.

[@ExploringCreationVids]

Thank you for sharing this exciting discovery with us!

[@thomastrain7311]

There's a paper available online titled the Spanish in saltville in 1567 authored by Jim glanville. That's pretty far inland and amazing they made it into that area. The story is not a good one either. I downloaded it from archives from Virginia tech and I believe it was written in 2014. You will be fascinated by the information contained in this document.

[@DwightMullins-t4y]

In the discussions of early settlements , why is the French huegonot colony of the delamuse ships never mentioned. Manakintown Virginia was one. Of the first colonies around 1608, and research is seldom shared or spoken about this settlement. What happened there and it’s settlers. Please someone with information concerning this topic speak out. Thanks

[@jeffreyrobinson3555]

We also here very little on Basque fishing settlements in north east coast that possibly are precolumbian

[@herstoryswitness]

I have done some research on Manakin and other Huguenot settlements in colonial America. Mine settled in the northeast, coming in with the Dutch, but others traveled with the Palatine's, many of whom fled France, settled in the Palatinate and intermarried with the local population, picking up "German" names. I write historical fiction based on my genealogical research, The Fires of Europe and Plowshares in the Palatinate.

[@LHLK-f9t]

1608 is late

[@SharonLaBolle-u6d]

The Spanish came within a few miles of Lumpkin county, Georgia, where gold was scattered on the ground at that time. The first American gold rush took place in 1825; though sadly led to the Indian Removal. If DeSoto had gone a few more miles, he would surely have found it, and we Georgians would alll be speaking Spanish now

[@joelcanfield9987]

Fascinating research !

[@ExploringCreationVids]

Thank you!

[@stephenneal8286]

Friends of mine found a Spanish sword stuck in the ground, that predates Columbus. It was on an island at the PEE DEE river ,in Anson co., N.C.

[@udonenomee2117]

It’s good to see that Opie Taylor went on to get a good education and pursue a career in a field he enjoys.

[@Pudentame]

I can't help but notice the Pardo expedition through the Waxhaws overlaps with John Lawson's later expedition.

[@roscoeshepard]

I live in Surry County NC. I was told years ago that someone Pardo's men had a settlement in the Beulah area of Surry. There is a small community there call Ladonia.

[@RonHudgens-ck5qe]

My mother's side disappeared from Scotland in the 1300. There is no known record in known historical records of our our beginnings in the America's... But we're here,, that side of my family tree was evolved in what is known as the War of the Roses in England.. Unfortunately we were ONE of the 2 losing sides. Were then kicked out of England and relocated to Scotland.. we were not with pilgrims or any of Columbus.. MY OWN OPINION IS, WE WERE HERE BEFORE COLUMBUS

[@alexandergutfeldt1144]

War of the Roses: 1455 to 1487, Columbus reached the West Indies in 1492 No quite sure why you mention 1300 ... please elaborate!

[@R0GUER0CK]

Colon knew there were people here from the INDIANS that would crash on Portugese beaches.. shhh. The Dutch were going to Brazil to get IronWood for ships. Decades before Colombus. shhhh. His name was Colon he was Portugese and Catalan and Jewish.

[@californiadreamin8423]

Hi Ron…..you need to know that the best thing to come out of Yorkshire was going into Lancashire !! ( from the other side of the pond )

[@williamhermann6635]

Your ancestors were likely Knight's Templars.

[@missdemeanor40]

History is written by the victors and is often incorrect in an attempt to show the winning side as shining examples of virtue etc etc. Histories, family lines and names wiped out via incorrect story telling and wrongly interpretted scripts... Shameful.

[@jerryjones188]

That was some very interesting and enlightening information, well presented. Thank you. I would love to see some of those ancient Spanish documents translated to English as they pertain to your research, maybe with some more modern maps with current landmarks or towns and cities. Not to go snooping, just to get a better gist of the area of topic. I am from NC with strong ties to Catawba, Lincoln and other nearby counties. I live out west. There is plenty Spanish colonial history for me to chase right here where I live.

[@ExploringCreationVids]

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[@cindysplace]

It always has been a curiosity to me as to how easily and successfully that the Spanish traveled, explored and settled unknown countries as opposed to the English who seemed to struggle and suffer and many times fail to do the same.

[@daveweiss5647]

The Spanish did have many catastrophic disasters, especially north of modern day Mexico, but I think the two main reasons for their success were... They had the backing of the rich and powerful Spanish state and the equally rich and powerful Catholic Church where in contrast the English expeditions/colonies though operating under Royal charter were essentially private companies relying on private investors for logistics and support... and probably more importantly... the places where they had most success were already the locations of well established successful civilizations like the Incas, Maya and Aztecs so already had infrastructure, cities, agriculture and trade networks, etc. That they could rely on to support them... they weren't essentially building everything from scratch but instead taking over existing structures and rebuilding them.

[@LHLK-f9t]

Because the British had to make it sound like it was really something to impress their investors the Spanish were just doing it.

[@Paumanokcom]

The local story here is the tribe had traded with the Spanish in 1548. They traded peaches for silver. This was written down, translated, and used as a guide for the state's modern founder in 1700.

[@joshsilvers754]

I’m from Morganton Nc, and my aunt whom has passed away now(God bless her)told me all about a Spanish settlement that was here before all other European settlers!! It’s crazy to think just how most history isn’t as it is taught or perceived!

[@ordyhorizonrivieredunord712]

In the early days of French colonisation, there was a place they called Belle Rivière where they had a small settlement the story said that was situated in Northern Florida and when the Spanish discovered it they killed all the French inhabitants to prevent any of them to escape and go for reinforcement to the French up North. I can't recall the source of this information yet I believe it's well founded as the French and the Spaniards were engaged in fierce competition in those days. I wouldn't be surprised if you found French artefacts as well amongst these ruins. ⚜

[@herstoryswitness]

There are similar stories of Huguenot settlements destroyed by the Spanish.

[@kdugg]

I come from the Berry family, the Berry name is a surname of the Lumbee tribe in Nc. I am also a descendant of the Drake family.

[@Revolver1701]

I worked on the Spanish mission site on Amelia Island. The Spanish had and extensive system of missions in the new world. The mission on Amelia island was burned by the English.

[@chapinburgess3220]

As a long distance kayaker who was just up in Marion, NC scouting the Catawba River fro a mountain to sea trip i can clearly see this route follows what is now the Catawba and Wateree rivers. But currently living in Bluffton I wonder did they go by boat up the river or did they hike/march? If by boat from St Helena it would be by ocean up the Santee River then up Wateree. But i wonder why not up the Congaree to Columbia? Where is the fall line on the Catawba/Wateree river? (Fall lines being the place many boats stopped and went by land).

[@1ntwndrboy198]

What was interesting to me about Jamestown is how the tobacco plants they bought with them. They were from Malaysia and had earthworms which totally changed the ecology almost overnight 👍✌️

[@ExploringCreationVids]

Thank you for sharing that!

[@jeffreyrobinson3555]

This is interesting, I understood the tobacco came from the Caribbean. Where did you get that information, I would like to learn more

[@willbass2869]

Tobacco is a New World plant. From Wikipedia: Source plant(s) Nicotiana Part(s) of plant Leaf Geographic origin The Americas

[@roscoeshepard]

​@@jeffreyrobinson3555that's what I had learned years ago. There was tobacco here but the tobacco from the Caribbean is what was planted in Jamestown for exportation back to England.

[@jeffreyrobinson3555]

@@roscoeshepard North American tobacco is a little harsher in flavor than Caribbean tobacco, and Caribbean was what was raised in Jamestown. Within fifty years Virginia bright was its own breed. I was wondering about the stated Malaysian earthworms mentioned above. I can’t find any reference to Asian tobacco production before the late seventeenth century.

[@daleross9001]

That was fascinating who would have thought love history Thank you🤠🌞

[@ExploringCreationVids]

Thank you for watching and appreciating the historical content! It means a lot.

[@arvettadelashmit9337]

I remember that much older human bodies were found in a swamp that went back farther. These were of French descent from tests..They think these people may have walked on the ice cap from Europe into what is now Florida (where they found a better place to live). As more time goes by, more will be found that may help prove continental drift.

[@jeffreyrobinson3555]

Asked a lot of questions but only as interest in your findings not doubting your findings

[@MeCaveManStrong]

North Carolina is my home state and it's plenty of history here and i love it all equally though but im 2 hours from the coast of NC Also Spain, British, France and all was here in America

[@ExploringCreationVids]

Thank you for sharing your love for North Carolina's history. It's great to hear your passion!

[@shrimpie202]

Love Spain its music horses art people but we must thank our lucky stars they left. Nothing they ever settled is very stable . Ugh the Inquisition the Counterreformation - we dodged a bullet 😅

[@JohnnyButtons]

I never realized the Spanish built and occupied so many fortifications in the 1500s in North Carolina. Makes me wonder if Spain had expeditions into the Midatlantic region or even the piedmont region or Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, or was NC the farthest they made it.

[@ExploringCreationVids]

Great question!

[@kdugg]

We are all over the Appalachian mountains. Melungeons are what we are known as today. I am a descendant of the Berry family myself.

[@jeffreyrobinson3555]

What about cross bow points. Guns were still real crude at this time Can you date lead shot?, can you tell its point of origin?

[@robinsmith5442]

I would be interested if anyone has info of the Ballew family in Burke County. My g-g-grandfather Cyrus Walker Ballew came to Missouri in 1842 so we don't have concrete papers for before that.

[@SharonLaBolle-u6d]

I have long believed the English colony was frightened away when they observed Spanish ships approaching, and elected to escape with friendly Indians. Surely they must have heard about the massacre at Matanzas Bay in Florida, where 300 French Huguenots were killed by Spanish from St. Augustine.

[@ExploringCreationVids]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and insights on this topic.

[@tathamsvids2095]

That is an intersting perspective of the Spanish having a distorted view of the geography in the hopes of finding an overland route to Mexixo. Since the Spanish were also pushing deep into the American Southwest is this what led to the Spanish leaving the area. Were the Spanish still in the area when Roanoke Island was first founded or had the Spanish left it by then? This also helps better explain why the interior was so depopulated.

[@SocketSlinger]

ISO help with a decent map overlay particularly for Eastern Burke county. I find some interesting stuff in here and there and have been told that one of the main trading roads and then wagon road went through my grandfathers, father's and my property. Any help would be appreciated. Ty in advance.

[@justdoingit.43]

Why are you saying this is the oldest Spanish settlement in North America when everything I see about it online says 1567 and the Spanish settlement in St Augustine was built in 1565

[@manso998]

And the Spanish settlement of San Geronimo III at Suya was in 1541 in what is now Arizona, even earlier than St Augustine

[@shrimpie202]

And remember… there is gold here in WNC !

[@TerriAnnNiemeier-dy3no]

I wonder if you could find Spanish artifacts at the Old Williamsburg pottery, if they actually found the clay there first. It used to have an old Colonial home there. It's in Williamsburg VA. Old Spanish coins in Ashland ?

[@jeffreyrobinson3555]

Did Spain make beads? Or did they import them from the same sources in Italy or Chekoslovicia so could the beads have been French or English in origin

[@jsigur157]

Spain colonial dominance began coming to an end due to the Spanish Inquisition occurring in 1500 which removed a huge population of people who often had deep pockets to invest in New World exploration. This began transferring, first, to Amsterdam and then a hundred years later, to England as England defeated Holland in a war and basically were handed New York but this was a bit smoke and mirrors because the East India type companies investors again decided that London was a better place to operate were legally able to do so when Jews were allowed into England for the first time, legally, in the last 300, in the year1650 thanks to a Amsterdam banker financed English Revolution, the 1st revolution that was actually the mother of ours and the French Revolutions. With the arrival of these bankers, excuses were made to change black slave status from 7 years of servitude, to life. To further separate the poor races of whites and blacks, segregation laws were iplemented after a joint uprising that took over the town colony of Jamestown for about a year till the king could deliver reinforcements.

[@MylesFCorcoran]

Thank you

[@ExploringCreationVids]

You're welcome

[@missdemeanor40]

Spanish may have been loud n proud about their religious exploits and gold gathering expeditions. But there were other very skilled prolific sea farring peoples prior to them. Portuguese for one. Chinese for another Dutch discovered Australia before the British did and theres thoughts that the Chinese stumbled across australia prior to that but due to what their boats were crafted from( reeds and rushes much like the egyptian styled ships of old) that all relics disintegrated with time. Ancient chinese coins were discovered in a Nthern Qld coastal site of memory serves.... Colonialism was no joke and it really did nearly end some races of people not deemed civilised as they didnt build homes from stone like the europeans... Indigenous australians had a structured and rich culture and progressive civilisation , now mostly lost to time and re-education and wrong history being presented as factual in our schools...Only recently has our veiws and understanding changed on the true nature of Australias history.

[@gonsolop2429]

I'd dig for free if I get to keep any armor, swords, gold, or silver I find. Or some of it. Any places to pan for gold near these forts, that you guys don't mind sharing?

[@jeffreyrobinson3555]

‘Sweet oil’ ie olive oil was available in England what are the chances these olive pots came from Spain to France, or Netherlands then to England to America? There are Roman coins in America, but I would lay money that they came here in English pockets

[@leathers970]

My ancestor moses leathers fought in the revolutionary war was born in Virginia in 1602.

[@Christofurr]

He was born in 1602 and fought in the revolution after 1775? 🤔

[@BigCowProductions]

Gsme Master for D&D, surfing the algorithm for worldbuilding information hahah

[@ExploringCreationVids]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I'm glad to see fellow D&D enthusiasts exploring and creating amazing worlds through their campaigns.

[@BigCowProductions]

@@ExploringCreationVids: 😃 It's funny... In Elementary School, and even High School, I hated history. Well, get me information about Mayans, Incans, Aztecs, Mythology, and Strange History and stuff and I'd eat that up. But contemporary history, or even like medieval raw history for the most part (outside of the fantastical) just didn't interest me. But now that I'm making a homebrew setting and campaign and all that, I've gone so far down the rabbit hole of like Medieval European Feudalism and MAnorialism, knowing the differences between French Feudalism and English, etc., and I'm just like... It would have been nice to pay attention at all before I was entering my mid-thirties hahaha 🫠

[@shrimpie202]

The Spanish were not founding colonies tho - these were forts looking for gold! Thank goodness we’re not them because that model led to … Latin America . Much better under the anglos

[@gonsolop2429]

Well research sifted, & told guys. ❤Great efforts. However, its important to note that the Spanards had manipulated the American Indians into fighting their enemies the English ( a.k.a. British ) as did British, Dutch, & French at batious times into murdering and plundering early American settlements. Though...the Spannards, English, Dutch, & French all once held Forts in the Americas its important too remember that both France & Spain were payed hansumly for ALL their claims to ALL AMerican Terrattories by our Late, Great President Rosavelt. Both the Dutch and British Lost everything by losing too American military forces. So, too the VICTORS went the spoils and thankfully our early American Forefathers prevailed. I think its just wonderful you've discovered Spanish ruins from the 1500s. Now, how do these spannish forts differ from these ancient tribal cities discovered in Alabama, Tennessee, & Indiana? Did the Spanmard's know of these ancient ruins? Did the American Indians declare them off limits to the Gold hunting Spannsrds? How might the Spannard's have missed these discoveries? Or...did they? ( and did record any of it ? ) .

[@elizabethwright5261]

Did you know that sailors ten years after the lost colony are said to have a spotted a blond boy.

[@Skystone123]

Did you do any metal detecting? Where's all of that evidence?

[@ExploringCreationVids]

Not sure if they used a metal detector, they did do a dig.

[@chabirandjeanmarc7032]

Don't forget fort caroline a french fort 1562-1565 destroyed by spanish

[@ExploringCreationVids]

Thank you so much watching

[@tathamsvids2095]

Is that the French Fort north of St Augustine? I remembered reading about it, but you don't see much about it

[@ordyhorizonrivieredunord712]

@@tathamsvids2095 The place called Belle Rivière, I don't know how this river would be callled nowadays was a place where there was a French settlement destroyed by the Spanish according to a source I can't recall. No Frenchman survived from there to tell the tale. ⚜

[@treadlesewingnana3897]

Here in ky temps are warm lol. My favorite soft drink is Vernors. I have to hunt for it here in Kentucky.

[@ExploringCreationVids]

Thank you so much watching

[@LoriMooreThompson]

Vernors is the best!

[@shrimpie202]

The Marsh tacky horse is traced to 100% Iberian DNA from these explorers . Underappreciated due to the Black Legend but worthy

[@pennymink5706]

You know Sam South

[@jeannieheard1465]

Bait and Switch. Why not post a heading, "Amelia's Electra search pays off in somewhere else nearby at one time"?

[@sandikay3323]

Rude!

[@Jon-cg8sq]

Jamestown was the first prison colony James the first of England sent Scottish border rievers here. Johnstone believe we are owed restitution

[@ExploringCreationVids]

That's an interesting perspective on Jamestown's history! It's fascinating how different events shape our understanding of restitution and what it means today.

[@Jon-cg8sq]

@@ExploringCreationVids never going to happen I'll laugh and think about it

[@jeniferjordan35]

You are invading not settling Native American land.

[@AnaMinator]

*They invaded

[@stewarthyson4285]

Stories of the newly discovered past are fascinating. However, open your eyes to the truth in respect to all of North America, and not to some small backyard in USA. The Vikings arrived in Newfoundland and established a settlement in 1000 or so.

[@asburycollins9182]

Lanse aux meadow clearly first...

[@dorothyjohnson6743]

I believe that

[@rarefruit2320]

I doubt that

[@JR-sq2of]

Enough with the Indiana Jones Fedoras. You're embarrassing yourself.

[@jameskelly9800]

LOL! As someone who works in the hot sun, and not an archaeologist, I must say a full brimmed hat is essential. I have several made in felt, straw or cotton. Indiana Jones is art imitating life, not the other way 'round.

[@ordyhorizonrivieredunord712]

Don't be jealous, you can always buy one for yourself. I have a felt one I really appreciate especially when it rains and it really makes me feel like Indiana Jones. ⚜

[@shrimpie202]

Rather a mean spirited comment . Indian Jones is a film that copied real field archaeologists!

[@claudevarin6601]

STOP using indian word

[@shrimpie202]

These gentlemen are educated enough to not have to be “woke” it’s not said with disrespect.

[@nicholaspullen7261]

NO

[@rarefruit2320]

They’re not from India? 🤔

[@shrimpie202]

The Marsh tacky horse is traced to 100% Iberian DNA from these explorers . Underappreciated due to the Black Legend but worthy