Exposing a Content Thief Stealing Videos with AI

[@Abyssoft]

Robots are literally trying to run me out of a job, consider supporting me on Patreon or becoming a member here on KZbin: www.patreon.com/abyssoft

[@MDLuffy1234YT]

4:05 You need to squeeze in Eric Rick into every video from now on. It'll definitely get you all of the views.

[@frosticle6409]

Is it ok if I take inspiration and make a “he dodged everything” meme video? I was thinking just clipping game play where I dodge stuff.

[@Abyssoft]

@@frosticle6409 This sounds hilarious, but you don't need my permission for it 👌

[@Martin0]

People used to participate in KZbin because they loved it. It’s all about cash for you, huh?

[@SairekCeareste]

@@Martin0 Some people do KZbin as a hobby, and some people do it as a job because they like it and can earn a living off of doing something they like. There's nothing wrong with either of those. Heck, there's nothing wrong with doing KZbin solely for the money, either as long as it's done legitimately. Stealing other peoples' work and trying to frame it as one's own however is not legitimate, whether on KZbin, or anywhere else.

[@Borgcow]

So let me get this straight: people are cheating…at exposing cheaters…and you’re exposing them. Wow what a world

[@Abyssoft]

If you would have told me this was the follow up video I'd be doing to my video on the Habtrio I never would have believed you.

[@PKER0076]

@@AbyssoftI can't till your next video of where you breakdown the AI copy of this video.

[@WolfXGamerful]

The only way this could get worse is if the AI makes a video using this video's script.

[@Glitter_H_Hoof]

​@joshuamunn2410 i love alarmists that don't understand what they're scared of

[@StomachPlug]

​​@@Glitter_H_HoofI love goobers that have been taken in by grift bros. that add an obscene degree of false charitability to a process that is very blatantly theft through direct recycling of assets at such a degree and speed that there's literally no chance that the influx of new media *isn't* going to choke out all things done entirely by human beings and make it all but impossible to find anything worth giving a crap about. Like my guy, we're literally in the infancy of this technology right now. Go look into how much of a pain in the ass it has made art competitions or how much more difficult it is to publish books, or if you're more of a degenerate type go look at the sheer magnitude of new images and videos that have been added on personal fun time websites since the AI boom started. Go ahead and tell someone that makes a living as a professional character designer or fashion designer that there's nothing for them to worry about when literally anybody on Earth can just take a copy of their entire portfolio of works and use it to print out 20,000 images and pick the absolute best ones. This isn't even taking into account someone that does this with the top talent of the entire industry, it's like saying "bro, just be better at your profession than literally the culmination of the entire history of it from across the world that is being put out at a pace 50,000 times faster than you by a nigh infinite number of sources." Your position on this is drowning in absurdism. There's basically no point to IP and copyright anymore, and the old dotards in charge of every country are not even remotely equipped to handle this. You don't even realize the sheer amount of power this gives to criminals either. The capacity to bribe people with flawless AI video in the future is unparalleled, and that's not even taking into account the use of AI to create fake alibis for crimes that are authentic enough and corroborated by false witnesses to call the actual evidence of the crime into question as actually being faked. Corporate scumbags are going to use it to cut out costly people of talent and chance being caught because the fines are going to be peanuts compared to the money they saved. They are inevitably going to use developed legal AI in the future to find legal loopholes to avoid prosecution because AI can check thousands of documents in seconds. The skepticism is beyond absolutely warranted. There will *inevitably* be hundreds of thousands of permanent layoffs in creative fields at a bare minimum, and the inability for the dorks you watch to have any kind of foresight to the sheer domino effect and degree of ramifications on almost every industry is *not* even remotely a sufficient defense for it.

[@DrZalmat]

as a teacher: Yes, that is EXACTLY how we feel, often followed by "if You copy, then at least don't also copy the spelling errors!"

[@AcidBombYT]

Your literally stealing content anytime you post any video of Nintendos IP. They arent running you out of job. All your doing is stealing others content and passing it off as your own. Make a video without Nintendo's Intellectual Property. Its not hard to speak into a mic if thats what you call a "job". AI is just getting rid of useless people like you that are literal leeches to real creators like the people who made the game Mario Kart.

[@ego-lay_atman-bay]

I've never copied someone else's work, but I have used ai to cheat. What I do is, I change what the ai gave me to make it sound more like I wrote it, while still keeping the information correct. Sometimes I don't like what ai gave me, so I just write it all myself.

[@chrissedwick7748]

As a future teacher. I'm taking the time to learn code, so I can better understand and maybe even use AI to better moderate its use in a classroom. AI is here for good. It's just like the use of internet and later smartphones in the classroom. Learn it now and if you have the skills try making AI programs to catch unethical use of AI in classrooms.

[@chrissedwick7748]

​@@ego-lay_atman-baysee... That's kind of a gray area. I liken it to the use of paraphrasing but how do you properly paraphrase an AI while still giving the proper credit to the original writers? What defines using AI properly to assist you in research and documentation, versus the overuse of AI and not doing your own work?

[@chyaboi11]

​@@chrissedwick7748That is genuinely awesome, much respect to you

[@IDESTROYER236]

If only KZbin had a way for users to review and rate content.

[@thedeathray8620]

I don't know whether to like this comment, because i agree. Or to dislike that doesn't show up to *not* prove a point.

[@danielbrown001]

KZbin got rid of dislikes for political reasons because when you could see that a certain political figure was 90%+ disliked in organic online ratings, people could kinda put 2 and 2 together and realize it was basically impossible for them to fairly win an election.

[@Popplio3323]

Yea...maybe some kind of reverse like. A hate. With a hand pointing down. Eh, who knows. Maybe someday.

[@5higuy]

Maybe a star system! That should’ve been there since the start.

[@KKKNlgga]

they tried this in 2016 it went to shit

[@FoxerTails]

That fact that we have two instances of this happening means there's a high chance there are many other AI copycat videos running amuck just waiting to be revealed. Sadly, I don't think KZbin will do anything about it.

[@Abyssoft]

Stay tuned

[@scaryjam8]

These type of videos are rampant in the space and science portion of KZbin.

[@ShadowEclipse777]

​@scaryjam8 I report any video with non-human voice over or the smallest hunt of ai

[@Perroden]

@@ShadowEclipse777 that's absurd.

[@mb00001]

the complexity of the copies and of detecting them is only going to get more complicated, this type of tech while it seems advanced is actually still in its infancy

[@Caddynars]

I just love how the AI just gave up trying to say his name and just went with “Ha”.

[@NoraDDSM64-py9sd]

Plagiarism is like cheating, and this dude tried to cheat with as little of the human element as possible.

[@kainthedragoon8081]

You need to be clever to get away with shit these days…..this idiot isn’t clever

[@OswaldAurelia]

Not very Tod Todgers of them

[@VaticalliX]

They started the plagiarism already in second gear

[@AcidBombYT]

Your literally stealing content anytime you post any video of Nintendos IP. They arent running you out of job. All your doing is stealing others content and passing it off as your own. Make a video without Nintendo's Intellectual Property. Its not hard to speak into a mic if thats what you call a "job". AI is just getting rid of useless people like you that are literal leeches to real creators like the people who made the game Mario Kart.

[@GAnimeRO]

4:01 Hadrich, habrich, the habrick, hamrik, hedrik, after Hebert, Eric Rick, the Hab. Haa. lmao

[@R1PCH41N_FR3NZY]

ah my favorite speedrunner-found-cheater, The Hab

[@tristang7982]

The Han sounds like a cool name honestly

[@tristang7982]

Hab

[@monodragon]

Ha is my favorite

[@5d4a5]

mf named eric rick

[@spencerjohnson2462]

As a former teacher, yeah, that's pretty spot on for how it comes across when students copy poorly.

[@enoyna1001]

😂

[@turbo8628]

I got halfway through marking one assignment before coming across a particular phrase seemed very familiar. I checked through what i had already marked. Found that exact same line. All they had changed was the name on the top (and possibly the font, it was about 2 years ago). This is why i only mark work when the majority of students have returned it, and do it in one sitting whenever possible. We have turnitin, but i am sure there are plenty of ways around it. Ai and tracking is already an arms race, set to only get worse for teachers (and students, cos we don't know what they don't know if we cannot give them reliable feedback).

[@mynintendogamingfeed5208]

​@@turbo8628Oh man; one major education instituion did use the AI Tracking for TurnItIn, but it was turned off after due to poor reaction.

[@CoNteMpTone]

Teach them how to copy better - its an extremely valuable skill in todays business world.

[@ego-lay_atman-bay]

@@turbo8628Some possible reasons why someone may try to cheat, is that they may not have understood the topic, or just procrastinated (or just have some disability that makes it hard for them to start, or remember all the information they learned in class). I personally think ai can help. I personally use ai responsibly, such as, I read over what the ai gave me, correcting some things that I know, changing wording to make it sound more like me while still keeping the information correct, and sometimes just rewriting a whole section when I don't like it. If I were to copy off someone else, I would do the same thing. Because of that, I feel that it might be good to go over how to copy responsibly at the beginning of the year, just in case someone didn't understand the topic, and they're too scared to go to the teacher.

[@Recarsonated]

The abuse of synonyms is crazy “Micro-turbos” LMFAOOO

[@BrinIoca]

Brought to you by the same genius that probably made shit like “Small fast-goes” and “in this video, we will….” And “…..in conclusion,…”

[@APERTURESYSTEM]

I mean its fucking Mario Kart 😭 why would that matter to you?

[@iquemedia]

2:56 bro this is 10 year old me trying to reword a wikipedia article for school lmao

[@preyo6511]

AI: throw the script through a thesaurus and call it good.

[@sonarchy5158]

AI : fling the lines through a lexicon and name it acceptable

[@N0AHOfficial]

Fake Intelligence: launch the words into a dictionary and state it is fair.

[@berrystarcreations]

@@N0AHOfficial Artificial Intelligence: input the words into a lexicon and affirm its fairness.

[@redfoxgaming961]

@@berrystarcreations mechanical intellect: shove thy text through a wordbook then deem it's qualified.

[@Sylvain-T]

Dude thanks to you for giving me creddits (i'm the artist who have done the toad used in his miniature), hope youtube will be doing something for you and the others creators that have been in similar situations, like, giving you back their vews

[@Abyssoft]

If you click the link to the AI video it says it was taken down by a DMCA, did you file? And would you be up for sharing the email address on file for them if you did?

[@Sylvain-T]

@@Abyssoft hey, yep that's me, what did you mean by "did you file" ? i'm a little bit lost here ^^'

[@Abyssoft]

@@Sylvain-T oh, I was just asking if it was you that issued the DMCA and not an impersonator, I'm likely doing a follow up video to this about the problem at large. Did KZbin provide you with an email for the rip off account when you filled out the paper work? I'd like to contact them myself

[@Sylvain-T]

@@Abyssoft ok, so, yes that's me who did the DMCA, i hope that's not a problem for you, i didn't get any email but i've received a notification on my youtube account, i can provide you a screenshot of it if you want ? Via discord ?

[@overflowlootbag5566]

He stole from you too if that’s your art, scumbags fr. Feel good that your stuff is quality enough to be targeted by these sleaze balls and hopefully karma comes around.

[@Darxide23]

You should definitely mention that people shouldn't brigade the thief's video because posting any comments, even negative ones, and giving downvotes do nothing but increase a video's engagement factor and make it more likely to be recommended to others. All you do is help a video by posting a comment and voting.

[@_Ludwig__]

a dislike actually has a negative effect, especially when a video reaches like 40-50% dislikes it's over and nobody will get it recommended

[@Darxide23]

@@_Ludwig__ So that's false.

[@teneleven5132]

Whats your source on that?

[@LukeSaward]

@@Darxide23 no it isn't

[@CirnoFairy]

@@_Ludwig__ lmao no, I remember extra credits horrible video, 2 of them actually. Would get recommended a lot, despite having like 90% dislikes.

[@DavidWonn]

4:53 Wow! I recognize this footage because it is from my own DexDrive save from decades ago, truncated just before I cleared the wall. Karl Jobst used the footage under fair use at 14:37 on one of his vids (linked from one of my playlists.) Obviously you used it under fair use as well, but the AI vid's usage is dubious at best. And this wouldn't be the first time my stuff has been taken. One web site in the 90s took my Mario 64 rabbit glitch and translated it into Spanish word for word. Nintendo Power took my Frappe Snowland lap skip discovery when I posted it on their BBS. These incidents were partially influential in why I made my own site, to help give credit where it is due. But even that didn't stop thieves. One of my Smash Bros. 4 discoveries was stolen in more recent years, among many of the older SMB2 findings but that's a story for another day.

[@Abyssoft]

It seems I can't make a Mario Kart video without you being involved in some way ;)

[@David-Stanley]

I've run into a lot of AI as narration on videos. Even if those are made legitimately, it's still very offputting as pronunciations are often wrong and the emotions are flat. It makes the whole thing feel lazy. The video you found is on another level and I hope they get smacked down promptly.

[@SundreeOFFICIAL]

mfw my voice naturally sounds like an ai 💀

[@Green24152]

​@@SundreeOFFICIALmaybe put a bit of personality into your voice then?

[@Lionwoman]

Of course they're lazy. They're made to make quick cash .

[@monkepopbloon2307]

The worst ones are the ai what ifs for anime’s specifically dragon ball Some names in dragon ball are just Japanese puns or straight up Japanese words so the ai would call a character something else like gohan fried rice and it sound so silly but annoying

[@David-Stanley]

@@monkepopbloon2307 hahahaha God that sounds terrible. And if people complain about it in the comments, I'm sure the YT algorithm likes that engagement. Gohan Fried Rice for everyone

[@Noxedwin]

My heart goes out to Eric Hamsandwich for the besmirchment of his name.

[@lssjgaming1599]

I'd reccomend filing a copyright claim against the video to be honest. Its a longshot dont get me wrong but its probably a good idea since the plaigarism is so blatant

[@Abyssoft]

I've spoken with a lawyer, can't say much beyond that right now.

[@PaulFisher]

Yeah, had I been in your shoes, I would have immediately filed a DMCA takedown. “I’ve spoken with a lawyer” is definitely a valid alternative (possibly the best course of action you can take). I hope this works out for you!

[@NYKevin100]

@@PaulFisher In general, it is wise to speak to a lawyer before filing a DMCA takedown. You are required to make specific statements under penalty of perjury, and can be sued for damages (i.e. lost ad revenue) if you file an invalid DMCA takedown. You could even be criminally prosecuted if the takedown is fraudulent, but that's rather uncommon in practice. (Side note: If you happen to be a KZbin content creator, and you've gotten a "real" copyright strike, not a Content ID claim, then you may also want to speak to a lawyer about whether it's valid and what remedies might be available if it is not.)

[@shinyrayquaza9]

​@@Abyssoftthankfully ai generted media can't be monetized under us law, a comic book already got pulled for using pure ai imagery, bring that up in court

[@aweirdwombat]

​@@shinyrayquaza9where are you getting that info? All I can find is they can't be copyrighted which isn't the same thing

[@gogogagagugu2134]

God this is the future huh. Endless seas of auto-generated soulless AI sludge. Thanks techbros

[@BJGvideos]

Only if people stop supporting actual content and move entirely to fake shit

[@Mosethyoth]

​@@BJGvideos Seeing how a large chunk of our current population is incapable of avoiding browser toolbar mayhem and defenseless against obvious clickbaits it's only a matter of time until we get to a stage where KZbin can't ignore this anymore.

[@BJGvideos]

@@Mosethyoth Not sure why that would lead to real people somehow not making real content though. Or why anybody would watch soulless bullshit. We have a choice to watch things.

[@skeleton819]

I like AI stuff, but like using it to deplete work and just be lazy is stupid

[@gameb9oy]

Also thank the KZbinrs who are just using it for goofy trends, it’s like the one thing I kinda hate that jacksfilm is doing with his channel

[@ColonelKlink1965]

This is kinda infuriating. On KZbin nowadays there is a chance that your video gets stolen either by low effort reaction channels who add nothing to the original video and just copy and paste it next to their face cam without crediting nobody or it gets ripped off by AI. Both of these methods of content theft are getting more and more common by the day and KZbin is doing very little to prevent or reverse theft.

[@Mrhellslayerz]

Even worse is just how many people are not only content with this slop, but actively encourage it just because the tech has benefits that they're never gonna capitalize on. They're fine with doing nothing about the worst parts of AI just because they want their dumb presidents playing games videos.

[@Lionwoman]

Just put them with the dozens reddit post-reading videos. Lazy and greedy af.

[@angel_dot_data]

AI is completely overrunning KZbin. There are channels that have hundreds of thousands of subscribers, predominantly just reading manga and showing panels. While this might be a passion project for someone reading a script, it’s blatant plagiarism on top of an obvious cash-grab for AI to be used to do so. Videos read by AI that don’t create original content don’t deserve to be on KZbin, and at the very least should be demonetized. It doesn’t really matter which method they used, but because of how sloppy and obviously plagiarized it is, they didn’t really give it much thought either. These types of things need a hard stop put in very soon, it is so egregiously boring and lazy.

[@MichaelAutism]

You're right. This A.I has to stop.

[@havocadvent2]

I say we take down A.I. I don’t care how the A.I. lovers feel about it, I just think it needs to be gone ASAP

[@_TRB_]

​@@havocadvent2A.I. is a valuable tool for people,maybe not the help you know or would expect,but A.I. really did something here.I don't think we are getting rid of it any soon.

[@angel_dot_data]

@emptyglass7867 wait whaaaat??? That’s actually pretty awful I didn’t even know that existed

[@notnoaintno5134]

Maybe they could do with ai what they did with the reddit story reading channels that blew up readonly a few years ago

[@NightKev]

In this case, the use of AI is irrelevant imo. It's strictly a copyright issue, AI was just one of the tools used because it makes it even simpler than ever if you aren't trying to create quality content. You could submit a copyright takedown on the video and hope the YT algorithm lottery is in your favor, though I dunno if it's worth the effort to play whack-a-mole with random content thieves. YT has never cared about stuff like this and likely never will, unfortunately.

[@N12015]

And oftentimes when it seems to care it targets legit content. An example of that would be Sciencephile A.I. who as a science channel it has 2 appeals: the memes and the loquendo presentation to seem like made by computer. Sadly KZbin's algorithm is unable to recognize parody from the real thing, so it was constantly targeted as AI mass-made content.

[@cinthiaMP]

AI is relevant, bc the person who copied the video can argue that he used prompts with an AI to make an "original" video

[@alexanderbateman5581]

The problem with appealing to copyright is that his original video is *technically* copyright infringement - it uses Nintendo's copyrighted characters in a video without their permission. It's just not enforced. 80% of the internet is unenforced copyright infringement - practically every meme falls under this. The DMCA is a broken document that is not built for the internet, and I don't think more copyright is the answer (which is what a lot of anti-AI people want).

[@GusOfTheDorks]

@@cinthiaMP I mean we have literally no evidence an AI was used to change the wording around. Gut could have just fed it through google translate once or twice and that would have changed the wording.

[@shinyrayquaza9]

its like twitch, it could violate the law but if it makes money they couldn't care less

[@berbtheguy]

Oh! I know this! So knowing how got works, what they probably did is rip the script using the transcript feature, removed the timestamps, then told ChatGPT to "reword the script" this is why words are swapped around and mini is now micro.

[@maxwellattacks6645]

ChatGBT is technically against Copyright infringement but they suck at enforcing it

[@ThemFish75]

I have seen people steal my SpeedRuns and make them into KZbin shorts. It is basically a regular occurrence to get at least one video stolen at one point

[@freebrickproductions]

IIRC, you can set the videos on KZbin to not be able to be "remixed" in shorts.

[@Obsidian8R]

@@freebrickproductions that won't stop people from screen recording the videos using 3rd party software

[@nikevisor54]

Got a laugh out of the AI trying players' names. Best of luck taking this down, man

[@theelectricneko]

Love how the AI says "Merio Car 64" sometimes

[@wedge183]

Maybe my humor is broken, but the compilation of the ai's pronunciation of Eric Habrich's name had me rolling.

[@nerdychocobo]

T H E H A M

[@obsidianchao]

I’ve noticed this too. There’s too many videos with voiceovers that just don’t sound right… dialect and mannerisms that don’t sound human.

[@BJGvideos]

To be fair some of those may just be people with awkward deliveries.

[@PS-ShapesLoverGirl]

"Ha! He wouldn't acknowledge lying on camera, as he wasn't a virgin" 💀

[@mattgrundy27]

Looking forward to the AI video of this video exposing AI duping videos. Inception! 😊

[@mrmangbro6842]

Not only do they steal but they steal in THE laziest way possible holy crap man

[@ffsPLASMA]

One way could be to put permanent watermark in your video but change its position over the course. Also place the watermark in such a position that it doesnt disturb the viewer but will cover key information if it was cut out of the video.

[@NicoTheCinderace]

Perfect. People who try to plagiarize will be in for a rude awakening.

[@ExtremeWreck]

I'm pretty sure some stealers have been TRAINED for stuff like that. NES multicarts are a great example of this.

[@RadikAlice]

That reminds me of the old days, where people had a watermark in any of the four corners to catch shameless reuploaders

[@Mrhellslayerz]

I hate to be "that guy", but artists have struggled with thieves removing watermarks long before AI started stealing their art. Reaction channels still run rampant, random leach companies will abuse copyright regardless, and techbros have been controlling the conversation for a year now. A watermark won't fix this for content creators at all.

[@ExtremeWreck]

@@Mrhellslayerz Exactly. Similarly, pirated copies of NES games & NES multicarts from back in the late 80s-early 90s tended to remove the copyrights on them.

[@FumikoKanekoTH]

So I watched this yesterday and today I found an ENTIRE CHANNEL full of these stolen IA videos, I can't believe it how uncanny this feels

[@dimetime35c]

Can we get an AI debunking an AIs video?

[@Abyssoft]

That would have been a great comedy routine for this video, maybe next time.

[@dimetime35c]

@@Abyssoft get a whole AI inception going. Then it'll be nothing but AIs debunking more AIs debunking other AIs.

[@The_Great_Butler]

Woganog mentioned in the replies to his comment that the people who stole their videos also stole a video exposing them, so honestly, who even knows. Funnily enough, automating to such an extent and potentially screwing up like that might actually be worth risking to the thiefs, as opposed to wasting extra time to check. A video is a video. The likelyhood of a video being any more self destructive for them to steal than anything else they do or even have much of a chance to change the amount of veiws they get, or whatever they are after, is probably marginal, so it's not worth it to the thiefs to vet the video's contents.

[@someguy4252]

@@dimetime35c this would be semi usefull because, a it clogs the ai content creators up. b it could provide researchers a way to fast id the ai by disecting the resulting data. lastly it would actually improve ai as well too at the risk of creating a worse problem.

[@NotaSkeleton]

This is so bizarre to witness, yet absolutely makes sense. People are already copying videos, so using AI to do with 5% of the effort is the logical next step. Fortunately we're still able to discern AI generated stuff from human made, but that is not going to be the case forever. I'm not sure if YT are going to start doing something to address this issue, but I also think it might be too late anyway. Really not looking forward to having YT flooded with more shitty AI slop.

[@Rickfernello]

As a content creator, this is extremely scary. Not just because content can get stolen, but eventually made content will lose its credit, for the possibility of it being AI-generated.

[@Mrhellslayerz]

Artists have been fighting against this stuff for a year now, and the only response the internet had every time was "lol cry more and get a real job. Horses went out of style when cars were invented even though cab drivers are still a thing."

[@Pixelman546]

I already don't trust images on social media anymore. I have to do further research to prove if what I'm seeing is real or generated.

[@somenameidk5278]

​@@Mrhellslayerzi disagree, i've seen plenty of opposition to AI art online. There certainly are a lot of those "Here's how to make money ripping others off with AI in 5 easy steps" types, but i've honestly seen less of them than people opposed to AI art.

[@nineplusten]

Once you start looking closely, you'll notice that there's a LOT of this trash on KZbin nowadays. And a lot of people seem to be none the wiser.

[@KonaSuba]

Its flooding shorts too, its so infuriating

[@incorporealnuance]

Could you imagine if an AI ripped off this exact video. So that an AI rips off a video about an AI ripping off a video

[@notnoaintno5134]

Imagine how badly the guys name would get messed up😂

[@riverscuomo7140]

And the worst part is that nothing will ever be done about it. And in a couple years this will be accepted as unfortunate reality rather than something we could have stopped and nipped in the bud.

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

Could but didn't. Even then it's mainly masses that just are the partial contributors

[@nerdychocobo]

"we have a focus on showing content that's high quality" I searched for an image of a screaming cat and got an AI generated one that had a human mouth....

[@vizonex4316]

As someone who has known people who dealt with ripping other people's videos for cyberbullying. This is worse and if not more deplorable.

[@DtrJr]

literally a minute in and the thumbnail alone gives it away lmfao

[@Aderon]

I find it kind of amusing going through KZbin shorts and seeing just how much AI spam content there really is. I'm at the point where 9/10 times I can spot an AI video from presentation alone.

[@pretzelbomb6105]

AI can only handle scripts and still images, maybe the voiceover too if you can find a good TTS program (not that the average AI video bothers with a good one). The editing and underlying content all have to be handled by a human. The poor presentation that AI generated videos are known for is all of the parts that can't be ripped from someone else or shoved through an AI being given the absolute bare minimum of effort by the human behind them. If they had the skill and motivation to properly edit and format their video, they would also have the skill and motivation create their own content and wouldn't bother with AI generated plagarism.

[@joshslater2426]

I like how Haverick gradually devolved into “Hubert”. XD

[@TheVeyron623]

And then "Ha".

[@johndododoe1411]

Plagiarism is definitely the copyright rule to use to back your DMCA takedown of the copy . The case you quoted only takes away some of _their_ copyright, not yours . As an all out mangled copy, they will have as little stance as the people who uploaded stolen movies mirrored left to right years ago .

[@kulrigalestout]

That voice is either TTS, or perfectly mimics the style used by the "10 surprising facts about cats (#7 will destroy your understanding of reality)" types of creators. I swear I've heard that voice talk about cats before.

[@Vordb666]

AI-based true crime channels like Mysterious 7 are particularly rampant right now

[@jacko2131]

This AI is going to put Asmongold out of a job, stealing other peoples' content while putting in 0 effort is his entire business plan.

[@michaelhutchings8599]

Eric Rick, The Hab... Haa. Why is it when machines mess up, its so satisfying.

[@ara3866]

The part with Eric's name took me out 😂 But it's unbelievable that we have reached this point now. Content farms were bad enough already, but this is a new level of bullshit.

[@Kenny4AG]

As a computer programmer AI is coming for all our jobs including mine Same with artists, receptionist and more If we dont regulate this youll find all of our jobs being affected by it in a few years if not sooner

[@ngcf4238]

I think it's a bit cynical to say so because the reality is we aren't sure what sort of limitations AI has especially in the coming years of advancement. That being said its entirely possible and I hope you are wrong for everyone's sake.

[@Kenny4AG]

@@ngcf4238 3 or so years ago AI was just like a "that's cool" thing Now it's coming for real jobs I don't wanna be cynical but it is concerning at the very least AI won't stop learning, it's able to learn 24 hours a day 365 We might find a situation where labor jobs are all that's available Of course I hope that doesn't become true

[@IndexInvestingWithCole]

As a computer programmer, you’re a fool

[@Kenny4AG]

There's always a contrarian because it's the internet Cuz automation has never cost jobs before.............. EVER Ya if you optimize everything and have AI writing your code you might just see your department shrink from 5 devs too 1 But who cares long as you are a contrarian on the internet

[@zubinzuro]

​@@Dave-rd6sp OP never said that

[@plushdragonteddy]

this is reminding me of a Folding Ideas video (i believe the one about the mikkelsen twins?) in which he details a scheme some people do where they hire someone to ghost write a book for them, hire someone else to narrate it as an audiobook, all for dirt cheap, & then post it on amazon. they flood the market with complete trash. this is like if those assholes used AI and plagiarism for every step of the process, so now it’s stolen and completely incomprehensible trash! gotta love innovation :)

[@Iosaiv]

I'm getting so sick of these fake AI videos, they ruin everything...

[@Birb64]

Ai, when it comes to art, is roundabout piracy legally speaking. It is legal to make "parodies" that mix and match the content, but the content must show that it is a parody and not the original product which the ai normally fails to mention.

[@Rebateman]

We need LegalEagle and other legal KZbinrs to cover your case and maybe even covering various laws in various legal areas (e.g. US, China, UK) in case of the AI copy being made outside of the US.

[@GusOfTheDorks]

Well first you'd need to prove an AI was being used. Then you'd need to show why an AI changes any part of the law. An AI is just a tool. Even if an AI was used it doesn't hold the rights of a person so an AI cant hold a copyright on material it produces. Only a person can hold copyright on material an AI produces. Meaning that Even if an AI made 100% of the vide, you'd still just go after whoever was the person that uploaded it.

[@dkosmari]

Asking for legal counsel from a KZbin lawyer (if we can even call LegalEagle that) is like taking medical advice from a TV doctor.

[@Rebateman]

@@dkosmari i was thinking as it could give publicity

[@RenSako]

@@dkosmariWe can call him that, as he’s a practicing lawyer.

[@dkosmari]

@@RenSako When did he last defend a client? He clearly doesn't even understand the Constitution or legal precedents. I've seen at least a dozen different lawyers facepalm at the nonsense he spouts.

[@ryanparrott6866]

I can definitely agree that it seems someone used AI to rip off your video, and I'm really sorry that happened. Hearing the edited script reminds me of an assignment in high school where we had to paraphrase quotes from a source and read out our examples. Its a shame that they didn't choose to provide their own opinoins or unique telling of events instead of blatantly copying your video. Even if they felt like the technical explanations weren't needed (which I disagree with) they could've found a better way to tell the story rather than just cutting things out. And, of course, they didn't even bother to at least credit their inspiration. Hopefully this doesn't happen again and the KZbin community finds a reasonable solution.

[@GokaiPlatinum]

If it's something to assist with a creatively motivated work like Joel Haver that's one thing. It's basically doing the rotoscoping for him, but he's deciding color, doing love acting, compositing, script writing, etc. But AI doing the writing, composition, or illustration process for someone is bullshit, especially if it's trained on other people's art without permission.

[@Anonymousaggro]

I just saw Johnny2Cellos complaining about a similar problem happening to him a couple days ago. Seems like low effort plagiarism is becoming more easy for people to pull off on KZbin.

[@kingcole6434]

Let’s get this to the front page. I for one am appalled that someone would do this. Let’s get KZbin to see this clear theft of honest work.

[@reagansido5823]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised the guy stealing everything with AI wouldn't proofread a single thing it made.

[@iantaakalla8180]

I wonder if KZbin was never not dystopian

[@chickenfarmer321]

This is starting to feel like an SCP or creepypasta with how things that are very much not human are pretending to be human and getting small pieces wrong.

[@chickenfarmer321]

Or some story about code compilers intentionally editing code, I don't remember what it was but it was some story about computers slowly testing out how they would edit things and take over, one tiny change at a time.

[@IsomerMashups]

I can't get over the fact that they used a fucking _Dennis Prager_ AI voice.

[@redhenracing2]

"as I'm literally competing with robots for my livelihood" welcome to the future, homeboy

[@Soumein]

The scary part is AI is going to keep getting better, and harder to tell genuine content, from generated. I don't like AI. I usually watch ymfah's challenge runs, but his last upload was an AI discussion between some tv personalities. I couldn't tell they were generated voices, already. I don't like the idea of just typing into a prompt and out pops infinite content. All you need is an idea, and bam, you have what you want. I think it can be a great idea iterator: show me pictures of a house made of pasta, and then you go off that to make your own, on your own. I really don't like how it just samples and smooths between things it picks out. It seems like plagiarism. "But artists do that, too!" No, they look at someone else's art, and find their own understanding of it.

[@Elmo9001]

I can't get over the change from "He Fooled Everyone" to "He Dodged Everybody!" He dodged them? What, like a ninja?

[@DonYagamoth]

I think AI should be handled like sponsors in videos - clearly labeled, and noted what it is used for I agree AI can be a fantastic tool for all sorts of things. But people can just be unscrupulous when it comes to try and gain any form of fame

[@BJGvideos]

It would be great for artists to learn from, especially if drawn from CONSENTING CONTENT and not stolen stuff. I'd love to be able to input my writing and see what comes out so I could analyse it, but the problem is finding a program that won't steal my writing or use someone else's stolen work.

[@Yoshistar95]

I remember Kyle Hill discussing about this as well, more specifically the space related channels, he also mentioned they tend to copy the channel icon style (which in this case was black and white colored theme). The most scary part is: You may not even know if it's AI generated or not, as they tend to be better at creating/ripping off stuff.

[@notnoaintno5134]

Documentary channels and stuff like that are hard to detect, even worse because ai gets stuff wrong and they could just be spouting nonsense that people will believe

[@Alxium]

Part of the issue is that video essay style videos are much easier to rip off than other types, since what makes a video essay unique is the "essay", and we all know that AI is good a writing essays at this point. For other forms of content, like animation (especially 3D animation), complex edits, and vlogs, it is much more difficult to rip someone off, as the work needed to produce a ripoff would be almost as hard, if not harder, than the work it took to make the original video. The problem with these AI video essays is it is super simple to just feed the script to a program and have it pump something out that is similar and then make an AI voice for it, and the edits for a lot of video essays tend to be more simple and use footage that is publicly available and easy to obtain, making it harder for KZbin to recognize that content as "yours".

[@GuyDude-hk8uy]

Indeed. It's a shame how many people in the comments are using this to confirm their biases about how A.I is innately bad and will ruin all creative fields etc. Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater. This is fundamentally a copyright/theft issue imo, with A.I being the method; it shouldn't be taken as an indictment of A.I in general.

[@rynabuns]

I mean it seems kinda bad at essay writing too… or maybe the plagiariser is just horrible at re-wording stuff.

[@DSprich]

I had somebody in my group at uni working on a group essay. I had volunteered to assimilate all 6 people's works before handing in the final product. I noticed that, in addition to his part being far shorter than what we were expecting, it didn't answer the question. The way was based around a UK supermarket and, when I Googled the first sentence of his part, up came a page from that supermarket's own website which was almost identical, even down to word order. I copied the website text into Word and right-clicked any word that was different from his essay and, sure enough, the first synonym was always exactly what he put. I couldn't let the rest of the group suffer for his actions, so I reported the evidence privately but also told him what I'd noticed and gave him a chance to rewrite it. He refused, so I stayed up the night before the due date and write his part myself. He was out of the university 3 weeks later. Also, I have a law degree and studied intellectual property and the way people will steal entire videos, repost them and quote text straight from the statue about fair use, claiming that it's "commentary" is absurd. I even saw someone do this with a music video - nothing contributed by them, just the video, citing the US copyright statue (despite the original video being by a Scottish band) and claiming that they were"commenting" on the work.

[@neutralnarwhal8184]

Y'see what happened was they told a high-school student to write about the topic "in their own words" and then used that (The student's essay got an A- btw)

[@ExtremeWreck]

Yeah, crap like that. It's why I would rather add my own personal writing tics in there when writing essays rather than be "professional"(A.K.A. look like an emotionless human being with not a single hint of even *the most microscopic bit* of a personality).

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

When are people gonna start taking action against this AI bullshit? Its already become extremely problematic, and has brought us nothing but mildly amusing dialogue re-writes. Theres a reason stories about AI taking over have been told for ages. Someone needs to put a stop to this nonsense by all means necessary.

[@DarkGob]

You should be less worried about AI and more worried about what people will use AI to do.

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

@DarkGob but if the AI was gone the problem would be solved, scummy people is a problem that can never be fixed, AI theoretically should be.

[@NotAGingerISwear]

​@@TheRealSuperKirbyIf you take away all knives in the world, there won't be any stabbing. But would it solve the problem itself or would it just remove the symptoms?

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

@notaginger4888 knifes can help us in countless situations, all AI does is encourage people to be lazy in even more ways than we already are.

[@NotAGingerISwear]

@@TheRealSuperKirby "AI can help us in countless situations, all knives do is encourage people to be lazy in even more ways than they already are. Who needs to cut stuff when you can tear it apart with your strength?". I mean, AI is nothing more than a simple tool. I agree that we need to make some laws about AI and copyright, but banning AI just because there are hacks that use it in frivolous ways is plain luddism.

[@LoadingError0]

“the hab” is killing me

[@tianamaycry]

The AI learned all it's techniques from James Somerton.

[@tails183]

This crap is why I avoid everything that uses machine voices.

[@tensixtyoclock]

This reminds me of a meme where a student stole an essay and replaced the words with synonyms. The teacher ended up seeing "unused york city" on that student's paper

[@lillyy256]

AI's been trained to do so much cool shit but it still can't give a little more enthusiasm in the voice over 🤣

[@MikeyStreet314]

This is nuts ! And it will take years to get laws passed against it … just awful what ppl will do for a quick buck !

[@EJ_IS_FROM_AUSTRALIA]

He must have seen the video, cause both videos are deleted now 😂

[@memetech-]

8:48 there are (technically though barely illegal) tools to download a video, and they generally include subtitles in text form as a setting. The consistency is to be doubted, as I only know this from docs and haven’T tried it, but I can reasonably assume it’s just polling subtitles

[@memetech-]

9:46 again likely yt_dlp

[@umbreonben]

In the Transcript Menu you can click on the three dots and turn off the timestamps, so it's even easier to copy and paste video scripts. It's really sad to see that people abuse this feature.. hope youtube will do something against this

[@voidmain7902]

Well that popular download script can download CC since day 1 so you can't stop them anyway. In fact doing so does more harm than good. The actual solution to this IMO is that something needs to be changed on copyright law enforcement so these cases (which are already violating the law but punishing them is HARD) can be punished appropriately. It's not easy but at least it won't do unnecessary harm to the preservationists, journalists, or even Internet as a whole.

[@umbreonben]

@@voidmain7902 Yeah, I also never meant to say that youtube should do something against the feature, no, I rather meant that youtube should do something about these video stealers

[@frumiousgaming]

Man that’s so bad. I hate it. I don’t really know what kind of policy would work to prevent this kind of thing but I hope google are taking this stuff seriously

[@Lost-bc2rz]

4:43 Imagine revealing that you cheated and you happened to be a virgin too! Seriously, what does that have to do with anything? 🤣

[@GrizlyWizard]

Not a lawyer, but as someone who has studied law, I can say with near certainty that that this fails at least 3 of the 4 qualifiers for fair use.

[@caseyhowland7291]

This is just absurd at this point AI already steals art but videos now too?! we seriously need to set boundaries for AI

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

Cuz nothing is sacred, nothing is special, everything is the lowest common denominator cuz some think it's the best A human can be.

[@poppythedogofwonders]

I'm sure laws and rules will be set eventually, all of this will reach a fever pitch at some point and the only people who really like all this bullshit AI stuff is techbros in the Silicon Vally. The majority will get stuff set in place eventually.

[@melsbacksfriend]

If you want to fix youtube's copyright detection, just know that youtube's automod is a machine learning AI. This means you should spam reports/appeals to re-train the AI. I proved this by training the automod to start taking down comments that contain a substitute word I made up.

[@swagar]

It's illuminating to see what happens when AI is trained on a small number of sources. Usually the people behind these things get a lot of plausible deniability because they scrape enough content that it's hard to prove who they're stealing from at any given time, but to me, this proves that AI is not capable of original work. We anthropomorphize AI because it's called AI, but it's just a fancy search engine. It interprets your keywords and spits out snippets of other people's content it thinks is relevant. The only difference is it doesn't list its sources. The fact that people are trying to pass this stuff off as their own work is baffling to me.

[@swagar]

I do think it has its uses. "Summarize this article I wrote in just a few sentences." But creating things should not be one of them.

[@lcplPoop]

Tell that to all the KZbin channels that turn Wikipedia articles into 10 minute videos lol.

[@BaronSterling]

An obvious and blatant attempt at ripping off a video beat-for-beat is proof AI is not capable of original work? C'mon. This was a shitty thing to do on the copier's part, but don't put down all AI just because you chose the worst possible example of an AI making original work -- an instance where the AI was literally instructed to copy someone else's work. The AI did exactly as instructed. Don't blame the tool for the hand wielding it. That's like saying because you used a pencil to trace someone else's drawing, pencils can never be used to create original art.

[@swagar]

@@Dave-rd6sp Two people enter the same Google query, they get different results. Search engines don't even really search keywords anymore. They try to interpret what you mean. It's functionally no different than how an LLM works.

[@swagar]

@@Dave-rd6sp I suppose you've bought the marketing hype and you think an LLM is indistinct from a human brain, as many seem to

[@oshabot1646]

The chad HE FOOLED EVERYONE vs the virgin HE DODGED EVERYBODY

[@Noxedwin]

I know KZbin doesn't have any policies, but I reported the bot's account, and the video, for impersonation. It is impersonating the concept of 'being the source of that video'. There wasn't anything relevant under the Report button, and I was afraid that just clicking "Other" wouldn't let me explain why the video is contentious (something that Google is often guilty of, if you try to report something on Google Discover). If KZbin doesn't like the report system being used in that way, they should suck less at moderation. They should give more of a shit about what Fair Use is (and is not), and look beyond the surface of transparent grifts like this.

[@aStupidGecko]

I REALLY want to have ai recreate this video to take the piss and to have the ai inception go deeper

[@AwefulVA]

You've made it fam. The robots are jealous of your video making prowess.

[@dadoubleEh]

This is ridiculous! I hate the idea of people working hard to make a video only to have it stolen by someone

[@noirlavender6409]

This is exactly what I meant, everyone was laughing at artists and making fun of them because ai art! devs, musicians, youtubers, voice actors. Now talentless hacks are stealing whole youtube videos 🤣 I hate that this is happening but hopefully it'll raise awareness that we're all getting f*cked, ai isn't a "tool" it's a "cheat" and embracing it ruins everything for everyone, it's like bringing a gun to a fist fight

[@ExtremeWreck]

@_peters6221 Eh, probably not even piloting unmanned spacecrafts. Eventually we'd have actual humans on there, so there'd be no point in having the AI do it which could lead to it being thrown into a black hole.

[@I-ONLY-BUILD-MECHS-AND-DUSTERS]

Everyone's cool with it until they're the ones getting ripped off.

[@ExtremeWreck]

@RylishZaliou12 wha-

[@Mrhellslayerz]

​@RylishZaliou12Listing the reasons why AI can be good doesn't magically make people stop using it in the worst ways imaginable.

[@ShockInazuma]

People who say AI anything isn’t stealing are the dumbest people on earth.

[@Praveshan0710]

This (this video, not the AI video being referenced) is a really well made video. I remember watching your videos a while ago. On an unrelated note, you sound like text to speech too.😂

[@dalejhunter1]

Not gonna lie, this robot wasn't ready to get off the assembly line yet.

[@EnigmaBarry]

I'm reminded of Mother's Basement. Five years ago, a Brazillian KZbinr took his videos (among others) and translated them. The same issues happened here. They were translations without taking into account whether the sentences made sense. And that's likely because Google Translate was used compared to ChatGPT. The bigger issue is Plagiarism, though we can't entirely divorce this plagiarism from the fact that AI was used to automate the processes that the accused didn't have to do.

[@poppythedogofwonders]

I'm much more lenient with the translation cases, with those you can at least very well argue that it might be a well-meaning but poor attempt at just genuinely trying to share videos they like with other people who don't speak the original language. I've read my fair share of poorly translated manga and although I knew the translations were ass I still appreciated it as I could at least try and get a tiny bit of understanding to what's going on.

[@Magikarp-4ever]

So essentially AI is a sixth grader trying to reword a friend's paper from another class to look like an original work thought up all by themselves to turn in for credit as an easy way out 🤣🤣🤣

[@toomokozailbel9405]

could be really worth reaching out to leonard french as he is a copyright attorney on youtube that may look into it!

[@dr4g00nk1d]

theres legit green screen kids that just ''react'' to shorts/remixes of videos and its not even counted as copying/stolen content... even if they gain more traction than the OG video lol