Exposing Discovery Institute Part 9: Douglas Axe

The next idiot in the hot seat is Douglas Axe, fake biologist, blog writer, and conspiracy peddler. The twist here is that this guy has actually published peer-reviewed literature. Three whole papers in fact! Not quite as surprisingly, they suck, so let's talk about exactly why they suck, with plenty of references to good literature for context. And we can learn about molecular biology in the process!
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[@mrpocock]

The structure paper he did at Babraham is trash. I was at the Sanger Center at the same time as him and all of us students would meet up in the EBI regularly. His supervisor had a huge fight with him over that paper and refused to be a co-author. It's unheard of for a student to publish without their supervisor being on the paper like that. It was a huge scandal. And he told us he had done the work to prove creationism, and even described how he'd "fixed" the result by how he framed what counted as a functional protein. He is a dishonest, garbage person IMHO.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

Darnit, that testimony would have been a nice little addition to this video 😂

[@AGEvoBio]

​@@ProfessorDaveExplains If you'll make a second Axe video, have this addition, Dave. If you dig a bit deeper, maybe you'll gaze into an abyss, like in the case of James Tour. 🙂

[@delusionsalyer]

​@@ProfessorDaveExplainsnext time announce the frauds before publishing

[@davidbutler1857]

This explains why Axe spends much of his book angry at getting dumped

[@chbu7081]

The Discovery Institute, an institute where nobody ever discovers anything.

[@marknieuweboer8099]

Except a new way to make money by doing nothing. Axe perfectly illustrates that.

[@yourneighbourr]

and they're not an Institute either lmao

[@monkeymanchronicles]

They discover how wrong they are everytime they do an experiment. They then proceed to test numerous ways they can convincingly misrepresent their findings.

[@chriscasperson5927]

Incorrect. They discovered Lying for Jebus and how to fleece gullible fools.

[@paulrevelersmithsonian9016]

Wrong

[@chriscasperson5927]

Professor Dave: "Jack Szostak." James Tour: Recoils while hissing, like a vampire exposed to garlic.

[@DavisJ-ln6fw]

He's just jealous really.After all Jack Szostak has a Nobel Prize and James Tour. He cares about stuff like that.

[@pufffincrazy5275]

Tour just starts melting likes he’s made of sugar

[@davidwatson2399]

​@@pufffincrazy5275 Dave rips open the curtains and drives the wooden stake.

[@dancingnature]

Tour did , didn’t he 😂😂😂😂😂

[@tzvikrasner6073]

The "think like a four-year-old, not an adult" argument is always just so amazing to me. They're literally saying "being stupid is right". Having said that, my five-year-old nephew is more intellectually curious than everyone at the DI.

[@insouciantFox]

Ignorance is strength

[@maaderllin]

They like the minds of children because they find it easier to manipulate them. This also lends credance to the "P*do-con theory". The reason conservatives always pretend they want to protect the children is that they want to be the ones to abuse them and assume everybody elses also wants to.

[@SloverOfTeuth]

A technique which flat earth grifters use too.

[@nope19568]

cults/cult like groups cant have any members thinking to deeply about the fact they're being spoon fed shit with a blindfold on

[@sloppyking7661]

Professor Dave WHY DO YOU HAVE SO MANY PLAYLISTS??? I've been watching for like three months now and I'm still like barely halfway through your educational content You're a freaking machine man

[@101stub]

So many interesting things to learn, and lots of anti-science being peddled currently to debunk and smackdown!

[@nolsterbuckr4833]

Seeing the DI being taken down with surgical precision is something else. I wish my ten year younger self had access to this series- would have made my life a lot easier in my argumentative teenager phase.

[@LiverpoolReject]

Same! Homeschooled with this crap as the basis of my education, it's been a chore unlearning this BS!

[@tastethejace]

​@LiverpoolReject why would your parents do that to you?

[@LiverpoolReject]

@@tastethejace o you didn't hear about the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, who created the world 6,000 years ago and is going to return any day!? We must prepare ourselves for his return! The answer is because they chose to be ignorant and small minded.

[@nolsterbuckr4833]

Cognitive dissonance really sucks. I see my parents deal with it when it comes to political events and their desire for consistency is always based on the path of least resistance. Sucks to suck I guess.

[@TylerB1318]

I am a simple man. I see Dave exposing the discotute. I watch and enjoy every second of it.

[@blakksheep736]

Discotute? 😆

[@Hylofear]

The shutterstock image really takes the cake. It's so obvious that she's been edited in, and quite poorly too. Her hair has a hard boundary with the background, and her shirt has a glow around it from a bad keying of the green screen.

[@davidbutler1857]

What's funny is that some years earlier, Gauger was giving some presentation and making some ID related arguments and citing some of her work, and apparently a comment from the audience remarked "So you found evidence of a beneficial mutation in your lab?" and this seems to have triggered the moderator to shut down the Q&A session.

[@TheCynicalPhilosopher]

I did my undergraduate research on beta-lactamase enzymes. The idea that they cannot survive mutations is absurd. If anything, there are _way too many_ variants of beta-lactamase enzymes.

[@Dr_Mel]

They really grabbed onto the fact that bible and biology both start with the same letters. Incredible.

[@Soapy-chan]

And that only works in a few languages

[@simonwgill]

Just started the video, but I have to ask how bisexual fits into that now?

[@DoctorOnkelap]

so does babbing which is the root word for the bible

[@Philitron128]

"Curious that you godless atheists claim that biology points to evolution and debunks creationism, and yet you've never considered that biology and Bible share three letters. Coincidence? I think not! Checkmate secularist-materialist-scientism. " -best DI argument

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

@@simonwgill Adam, Eve, and Steve

[@tenshi9397]

Another DI researcher that doesn't have legit credibility and is a grifter. Keep debunking them, Mr. Farina!

[@crescentmoon2806]

I can't read Mr. Farina anymore without hearing James Tour screaming 😭😂

[@JasonM-lq7ri]

@@crescentmoon2806Go! Go!

[@CriticallyCorrie]

@@crescentmoon2806Literally same 😂

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

Mr. Farina! Go! Go! Go! Unlike Tour, we are all cheering him on!

[@AleisterCrowleyMagus]

@@crescentmoon2806 MR FARINA DRAW DRAW - seriously that was so epically insane that it should live on forever in memes etc. Why Rice hasn’t put Tour out to pasture is beyond me completely…

[@ryandenilson5210]

My favorite section of Professor Dave. I look forward to the day you refute William Dembski and Ann Gauger

[@Tomato_Dragonzord]

Appeal to common sense fallacy in this guy has reached the level of flat earthers screeching: "lOoK, iT's fLaT bRuH, jUsT uSe uR cOmMoN sEnSe".

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

"But steel is heavier than feathers"

[@phobosinferno]

Common sense has lost all meaning thanks to these people.

[@incubrian]

don't forget how they use PRECISION SCIENTIFIC INSTRUMENTS the instruments: eyes

[@miaomiaochan]

The term "common sense" has been rendered meaningless, IMO. It's just another way of saying, "what I personally think is obvious".

[@MetaphorUB]

I too have a degree in chemical engineering and y’all should definitely come to my TED Talk on theological pluralism in ancient Christendom.

[@johnoglesby-vw7ck]

BRILLIANT!!!

[@raptorcrasherinc.9823]

Where is it?

[@farkasmactavish]

These notifications are always an instant tap for me. And then I go back and rewatch the playlist from thr start.

[@coolguyinc.1555]

I read that as an instant fap and got very confused….

[@Soapy-chan]

relatable

[@1ermejo4ever1]

Rewatching the whole playlist is wild, that's so many hours

[@yippieskippy2971]

Agreed. Oh wait...I do that w/ Gutsick Gibbon & Forrest Valkai ​🤔@1ermejo4ever1

[@paulrevelersmithsonian9016]

bored?

[@Soapy-chan]

thanks youtube for playing a TEN MINUTE ad (about a depressing topic no less) right when I go to the bathroom and can't skip! That's why I use adblocker...

[@Spaceoctopus1776]

Don't blame KZbin, that's probably because you have the free account. Upgrade and you won't get ads. Plus when I i play the rectal version of the alien chest burster, I have my phone on my bathroom sink

[@markd.s.8625]

​@@Spaceoctopus1776uh, youtube is literally to blame for that.

[@helmaschine1885]

​@@Spaceoctopus1776No and money excuses huge and unstoppable ads. And not everyone has money to throw at KZbin for the few times you end up watching stuff on your phone.

[@tonyduncan9852]

I pay for nothing. Always have. Always will. (Sorry, Dave!) Bathroom problems (or washing up problems to do with rubber gloves) I am willing to endure.

[@Power_to_the_people567]

⁠@@helmaschine1885KZbin originally only played 10 second ads and they were all skipable. So it is totally KZbin’s fault for introducing long ads with no skip option

[@mattng1324]

I once read a wise comment and it went like this - "The Discovery Institute has not discovered anything" So true 😂

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

Technically DI did discover... charlatans, grifers, and true believers. Oh and also Ctrl-F (see: cdesign proponentsists)

[@user-ee7bz3ip2b]

They discovered a unique way to make stuff up

[@jimbob8992]

They've discovered a regular income by duping the incredulous.

[@gigibythesea1133]

​@@hanifarroisimukhlis59894:24

[@nemanjalazarevic9249]

They discovered the embodiment of the seven deadly sins! Themselves! Thats gotta count for something, riht?

[@InfiDale3476]

“Who is he and how does he lie.” 😂

[@tastethejace]

Who is your father, and what does he do?!

[@christophersandford5888]

I just need to express how useful it is to have a series like this as just an interested lay person. Especially on platform like KZbin the algorithm presents all sorts of information and Professor Dave pointing out individuals, institutions, and journals to be wary of is invaluable to those of us who are just trying to stretch our interest. Likewise reminding us of where we can check and look for reputable sources of information and science communication. Thank you!

[@cosmidia]

This was hands-down one of your meatiest DI-Debunks, in spite of its length. Thank you for shedding light on these clowns. It is alarming how many people in all of our lives are susceptible to this bullshit, and I appreciate you arming me with the knowledge necessary to dispel it, for free even. Never stop, Dave!!!

[@galileog8945]

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." I. Asimov.

[@douglasobanion5227]

Did that 'cult of ignorance' in America begin with the folks who told Americans "You can't trust anyone (to be king), therefore you have to trust everyone to vote. You can't trust anyone, so you mist trust everyone."? I am just being coy. But seriously, scientific community is going to injure itself if the people who step into leadership roles, preach science instead of teach science. A fitting colocialism. Stated to the whole science community here might be 'check yourself before you wreck yourself'. Oh yes I did say that.😮

[@RichTheMusician]

If the DI folks don't believe in evolution, how do they think we get a Charizard from a Charmander? Do they think Prof Oak designed them separately? Get real.

[@_amberine_]

bruh yeah, how do these idiots think i raised my house cat into a damn wrestler?

[@alexiscorral5594]

What? Charmander is being intelligently designed..... Congratulations! Your Charmander was intelligently designed into Charmeleon lol.

[@j0j0dartiste21]

That is literally how they think evolution works

[@floppy8568]

I'm just waiting to see someone not get it...

[@soggybiscotti8425]

Lee Cronin made Mewtwo in the lab. Checkmate James.

[@DryptosaurusDavid]

I never thought I'd see the DI again.

[@enlacostaizquierda]

As long as lying for the Lord is profitable there will be AiG's, DI's, and the rest milking the sheep. So even if some how DI collapsed something as bad, if not worse, will rise from the ashes.

[@natethegreatest1000]

Me when a new Prof Dave video comes out: "MR. FARINA, HERE, GO, GO, GO!"

[@chasingcheetahs5017]

I like how James Tour's hilarious breakdown in the debate is becoming a meme.

[@Yourwaifuisntreal]

M I S T A F A R I N A M I S T A F A R I N A M I S T A F A R I N A Z E R O ! ! ! ! !

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@chasingcheetahs5017, He was the meme of old man yelling at clouds by the end...

[@davidbutler1857]

Holy shit I even read that in Tour's high pitched scream voice

[@raptorcrasherinc.9823]

MR. FARINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@robsengahay5614]

It slightly restores my ‘faith’ (sorry) in humanity to see Dave nearing 3 million subscribers.

[@raptorcrasherinc.9823]

Hail Dave, not big Y(Yahweh)

[@xingbutcher]

This series is fantastic, keep up the great work exposing these charlatans for what they are.

[@danem.9402]

YAAAAAS Dave. More DI debunks! Love your stuff you are THE MAN, man.

[@johnpirone526]

As a health science major specializing in medical biology that is a research assistant in a bacteriological Lab, studying primate genetics in relation to antibiotic resistance using molecular biology… I would like to say that Dave is the MANNNN

[@wyldink1]

Not all heroes wear capes. Some just post awesome DI takedowns on KZbin.

[@fazergazer]

This topic is in my wheelhouse. Many of the examples Axe cherry-picks as being “finely tuned” are in classes that are not evolved to tolerate mutations…due to misfolding. There are classes of proteins that are hypertolerant to mutation: for example tailspike proteins that must tolerate mutation and still fold, so they can explore sequence/function space efficiently as part of their adaptation to host receptor mutations. Plus, other proteins co-evolve with their folding partners or chaperones in order to maintain structure/function. I developed folding reporters that have been used to screen naive libraries to identify folded domains that subsequently also contain functional modules or that can substitute as folding partners in protein complexes. (GFP folding reporters and split GFPs). ❤

[@lordyeetown1831]

This just released as i was rewatching the entire series so far. Lucky me!

[@JM-jc4hm]

Professor Dave deserves a Nobel prize in chemistry for his inspiring and tireless work in science education.

[@coniferviveur3788]

Don't know about a Nobel prize but there really should be some public recognition for the excellent and important work of Prof Dave.

[@raptorcrasherinc.9823]

@@coniferviveur3788 Agreed. Some award would be warranted, but not a Nobel Prize.

[@abjo]

Brilliant takedown!!! Thank you!!!

[@reneoswaldogonzalezpizarro7116]

Liking the video before watching it because the whole series has been amazing...

[@Soapy-chan]

it's not only keep women pregnant, it's keep teenage and even ten year old girls pregnant. don't educate them on sex to prevent it either. don't protect children from abuse in churches, foster care and other places either.

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

Oh definitely. Young, pregnant, barefoot, and blissfully ignorant.

[@helmaschine1885]

​@@hanifarroisimukhlis5989blissfully abused and helpless/s. Fixed it for you.

[@Soapy-chan]

@@hanifarroisimukhlis5989 basically conservatives live out their fetishes and kinks in real life instead of keeping it fictional 😅

[@JPJosefPictures]

Can’t get enough of this series!

[@themoonisfalling9078]

Starting a college called "The Bible Institute of Los Angeles" is actually insane

[@djhalling]

"and it's one of the most frequently cited papers..." *Ooh, that's actually quite impressive* "... among creationists" *Oh!*

[@CriticallyCorrie]

One of my favourite KZbin series, keep up the good fight, Dave!

[@JessicaLindsey-jw6nu]

Another video that I can put into my play lists, keep going Professor Dave!

[@soonerarrow]

Thanks, Professor Dave. You're doing the world a favor by continuing to expose these lying AF charletons. ❤

[@happyhippo4664]

I have a degree in chemical engineering. This guy does not speak for most of us!

[@pufffincrazy5275]

thank you for NOT using your hard earned degree to lie for nut-cases

[@silvaskiproductions3937]

fellow chemical engineer here. I for one am proud to have him representing us!

[@corn_lord]

@@silvaskiproductions3937 Why, so you can think like a four year old?

[@silvaskiproductions3937]

@@corn_lord are you a chemical engineer? didn't think so

[@corn_lord]

@@silvaskiproductions3937 Broski, Axe said some really stupid stuff. If you literally cannot defend it at all, I think that's pretty sad.

[@Atlas6355_]

This MUST have its own Netflix series! The world 🌎 needs to see this!! 👏👏👏

[@seedye]

Yes…but…two reasons that won’t happen: 1) Dave isn’t related to any of the Netflix execs, like Graham Hancock, 2) not a pseudoscience grifter like Graham Hancock.

[@tobiaszczarnota7879]

​@@seedye Will Dave do a video on Graham?

[@mikotagayuna8494]

@@tobiaszczarnota7879 Try Miniminuteman. He's an actual archaeologist who did an exhaustive debunk on him.

[@daveg-Vancouver_Island]

@@seedyeyea I just found that out myself, about Graham having a family member working for Netflix, no wonder he got that series on their platform when it’s so full of shit and been debunked many different times!! Graham is such a grifting pos!

[@logandabrute]

let's go i've been waiting like 6 episodes for this

[@stathamspeacoat]

My ex's sister went to Biola the same time I was going to a different university for the exact same degree. Once I tried to discuss something in that field with her and she had no clue what I was talking about because all they did was Bible.

[@stathamspeacoat]

Another time, she informed me that her legs have always been bigger than her arms.

[@quecee]

​@@stathamspeacoatI'll bet she thinks that men have an odd number of ribs.

[@davidwatson2399]

​@@quecee And a talking snake

[@blakksheep736]

Worrying...

[@alexeypolevoybass]

@@davidwatson2399 my trouser snake doesn't talk as much as that one from the Bible, though

[@alistaircorbishley5881]

I followed this series from the start and enjoy seeing how the religious fundamentalist behave on the other side of the pond. Coming from the UK 🇬🇧, it amazes me that these organisations still exist and have such a broad reach - they would be laughed out of town over here!

[@marknieuweboer8099]

2:50 and a bit further: to be fair, it was StevieM himself who openly gave up the "Intelligent Design Theory remains silent about the identity of the Designer" lie with his book Return of the God Hypothesis.

[@quecee]

I can't believe that DI actually paid $29 for that Shutterstock image! They would have normally just left the watermark in and embarrassed themselves that way.

[@alexanderalexandrou]

I'm amazed how much I've learned through these debunking videos while having a good time.

[@joshTheGoods]

It seriously makes my day better when I see a new video from Prof Dave! I'm an asshole for not having joined Patreon before today.

[@4ozscoop]

I live for this series.

[@daredoggo]

"Scientific scholar?" More like scientific squalor.

[@GottfriedLeibnizYT]

I see we're having another clown from DI.

[@catboom6712]

Dave, thanks for doing these videos. Really appreciated. Someone has to expose those creationist propaganda.

[@RichTheMusician]

Praise be the Dave, for he is always with us.

[@prvt.harumi6821]

Yaaaaaay , more of Prof Dave!

[@wyrmofvt]

Biola is an initialism for "Bible Institute of Los Angeles" - so it's name is still that.

[@kevinlawrence1582]

20:30 did he say if the 4 year olds are correct then the true picture looks more like this? I literally had to rewind just to make sure that yes that is what he said. Like what is he trying to say that academics are wrong and the four-year-old way of looking at the world is correct? Priceless😂😂😂

[@evanstein3011]

Omg I've been waiting so long for another one! Please do William Dumbski next. That guy and his specified complexity crap is one of the cornerstones of ID.

[@cygnustsp]

I remember watching a debate with him like ten years ago and he was terribly embarrassing.

[@evanstein3011]

​@@cygnustsphe actually debated Hitch! He's really fallen but 15-20 years ago he was a heavy hitter, I'd say him and Behe were the real ID "theorists"

[@alexiscorral5594]

I have a feeling that Bill Dembski is the last top DI dog that Dave will take on & his "specified information".

[@jeremyf1901]

I’m so grateful this series exists. I’m sure there are so many institutions like the DI.

[@Marconius6]

Did he actually just make the argument "but if the 4 year olds are right"?!

[@Fukiyel]

*-== WHO WOULD WIN?? ==-* Thousands of researchers undergoing and publishing myriads of peer-reviewed studies in order to understand our world better through observation, theories, experiences and conclusions... *....OR....* This guy's feeling

[@Acidfunkish]

"Undeniable: How Biology Confirms our Intuition that Life is Designed." Woof. If it was confirmed, it wouldn't be considered intuition, anymore, would it? It would be science.

[@HerrMau]

Please keep up what you do. Your work is incredibly important in the most important fight of our lifetime - the fight to preserve science.

[@CreationMyths]

Warms my heart, Dave.

[@sciencenerd7639]

hi Dr. Dan!

[@CreationMyths]

@@sciencenerd7639 Hello!

[@FloSchmdt14]

I don’t know why I’m still watching this series, I have yet to understand a single piece of chemistry that was discussed

[@RainMarrlen]

Probably because it's fun to watch people who have no idea what they're talking about get destroyed by someone who does

[@Marniwheeler]

​@RainMarrlen Oh they know. Axe is a PHD, he knows why he is wrong, he just doesn't care.

[@NOORPHANSTUBE]

Whoa first time I get the first comment on a big time KZbin video! Love your content mister Dave!

[@thomasbellerive7382]

This is insane, I'm heart broken that a Christian this well educated can be an anti-vaxxer and say this kind of nonsense 😭😭 Well, there are despicable people everywhere, thanks for exposing some of them Dave

[@penguin82875]

@@tom-hy1kn I thought you were a Tour fan…

[@EBDavis111]

@@tom-hy1kn Tour's a trumptard. So are anti-vaccers.

[@NoxaClimaxX]

I don’t think anybody’s unraveled the intuition argument quite like Douglas Axe, and he didn’t even do it on purpose.

[@godless-clump-of-cells]

Keep up the good fight, Dave. Your time, effort, and lack of mercy for these charlatans are deeply appreciated.

[@grego7596]

It took 1.0926 seconds for me to smash the "Like" button. Awesome series. Keep them coming.

[@alexanderlopez-dt9ty]

Professor Dave, you should do another video on Stephen Meyer. He recently spoke with Joe Rogan on his podcast.

[@daveg-Vancouver_Island]

Oh god, really? Joe Rogan will have any idiot on his podcast, he had Graham HanCOCK on as well!!

[@davidwatson2399]

​@@daveg-Vancouver_Island Anything for the cash register.

[@pureflix8086]

You should be proud, Dave. Today, james tour can catch his breath and gather his wits.👍🏻

[@101stub]

😂 might be true if he had any wits.

[@jamierichardson7683]

​@@101stubhe definitely has half

[@101stub]

@@jamierichardson7683 maybe a quarter...

[@cthellis]

Never heard of this one. No wonder he only gets a 22 minute drubbing!

[@rdhealthcare6426]

Love the zoology and debunk content.

[@pitust]

"BIOLA" stands for Bible Institute Of Los Angeles, doesn't it?

[@chriscasperson5927]

All you need to know about BIOLA is that Low Bar Bill Craig is a Research Professor of Philosophy there.

[@davidfitnesstech]

There has *never* been a time in humanity when entering "God" into *any equation,* has given us new knowledge of *anything.* In fact, "God" only makes the equation *nonsensical* and it just collapses.

[@douglasobanion5227]

Davidfitness...,, My biological ancient family in ancient Ireland were considered to be 'God' in as much as 'God' denotes a beging (or fresh start). The name the family had back then was Ui Bhanain which in the old Irish language means Son of The First Lady - and so, like the Biblical scenario of the Jewish 'having no God before the Jewish God' the ancient Irish locals ignored all previous ancestral connections and old grudges, in order to enjoy relative peace and a more well defined beginning than was the previous version laid out in even older Irish oral histories. One can imagine that ancient Irish and other folks who respected or 'worshipped' their ancestors (like Indigenous Americans did or still do) may have restarted their society and histories many times. These fresh starts (or 'creations' if you will) probably required the literary presence of a Virgin Birth - hence my biological ancestors name being Ui Bhanain 'Son of First Lady'. Because other ancient cultures such as the ancient Americans (Who I am also related to via my great grandmother) it is almost certainly the case that the pre-Christian world had many such families scattered around and being used or abused as 'Gods' if not at the very least being used as placeholders for their respective societies, clans or tribes beginning. People like to know where they come from., and they also like domestic peace and a sense of belonging within society. Ancient ways gave people those things which are all very practical and fought off old grudges and bloodshed while promoting equality within their society. When Christianity came to Ireland, my biological ancestors dropped our local charade in order for us to adopted the Jewish ancestor depicted in The Old Testement as God. By doing so, we escaped the bonds if regional biology and our social responsibility to pretend to be something we knew we weren't - God's or the Irish version of the Jew's Adam. We also knew that God The Almighty Creator of All of Creation did not create any of our human ancestors from dust in a literal sense as the Jews believed Adam was. But we didn't worry much about the discrepancy between literal and metaphorical interpretations of Adam (a symbol of the first human). We didn't worry about that because the Jews had long been on a trajectory to understand that Adam had a human father - a man. In The Old Testament Daniel foresaw this biological argument being hashed out by a person whom Daniel referred to as The Son of Man. Much later in human history Jesus repeatedly referred to himself as The Son of Man. In that way, he did not argue against biology. But Jewush leaders did argue against biology for reasons that include their being literalists. Literalism always assume authority. We can see that being the case with some twentieth century literalist such as Adolph Hitler who probably knew he was speaking bullcrap, but many people accepted his 'Arian race' vote-capturing speeches as literal truth. He had a scientific approach to the 1930's challenges Germany faced. His science was of course flawed and resulted in millions of deaths during The Holocaust, but it was 'science'. It was nonsense science, but it was science nonetheless. Of course history documents times when Christians have committed smaller scale atrocities. No lable 'Atheist', 'Christian', 'Muslim', and such guarantees that a person won't slip into literalism that typically closes off other pathways of thought and always assumes unwarranted authority. I suspect that is one of the many reasons that Jesus merely hinted at his knowledge of biology by calling himself The Son of Man, and by doing so leaving it up to people to interpret it as they needed. That was 2,000 years ago. Thanks in part to modern genetic discoveries as well as lessons we learned when science went horribly wrong in the twentieth century, Christians and others can be honest about 'The Son of Man' (Jesus) and about the fact that we are united by a common human ancestors that was preceeded by a pre-human ancestors, that was preceeded by well, you know how the story goes - 'In the begining...' I got a bit off topic, but that roughly describes the Christian sense that too few Christians have the gumption to say publicly. As for the local Irish who used to use my biological ancestors as 'gods' (a starting point for their ancient society), I don't think that their Irish descendants ever forgave us for our part in Christianising Ireland. The local Irish still tell ghost stories about Leap Castle that my biological ancestors built in Coolderry Ireland. Old grudges die hard in people who still claim to believe that fairies live in the forest. Speaking of Ireland reminded me of the shamrock, which of course reminds me of The Trinity; The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit; three parts in one. That concept takes into account that Adam had an Earthly father who people eventually held up as God. The Trinity is not a leap of logic, but it does refer to a very ancient leap of logic when earlier humans made God's out of their anscestors.was it forgivable that early humans did that? Jesus would say yes it was forgivable. Is it forgivable that science such establish authority equivalent to a god (as some science fundementalists do today)? Answer - Probably not, but they will do it anyway because some humans want answers more than they want truth. That is just rhe way many people are. So Davidfitness..., there is some sense in what many people call nonsense. I am genuinly sorry if no Christian ever took the time to explain these modestly complex aspects of Christianity to you. I wish that I could have done a better job of it myself here.

[@mohamedtaqi6322]

Thank you Dave ! Another example of a search paper abused by creationists is Durrett and Schmidt's "Waiting for Two mutations" (2008) , the paper is discussing a specific type of mutations and a model that can calculate the waiting time for that binding site to evolve (to explain how it evolved in different species of Drosophila, which creationists agree they are the same "kind"). The paper concluded that it is possible for that to happen in reasonable evolutionary time scales, unlike Michael Behe's claim that it would take more than the age of the Universe. But here's the catch, the paper said that prespecified type of mutation would take more than 100 million years, in humans with an effective population size Ne = 10000 (but the model discussed in the paper is NOT about humans) , the fact that creationists used this paper at all to say that 2 mutations need 100 million years, shows how dishonest these people are. Because : Even if a specific mutation needs 100 million years to evolve and become fixed , this doesn't say anything about the probability that ANY other mutation would evolve... waiting for a specific thing is not like waiting for ANYTHING that works. Besides, the paper is only discussing a specific set of binding sites and loci on the genome, and not the whole genome, so the probability of a specific mutation evolving on a specific locus, is way smaller than the probability of ANY working mutation evolving on ANY given locus. And what's funny is that other creationists (Young Earth Creationists) love mutations, and use high mutation and fixation rates, because they would not be able to explain how so much genetic diversity (too many alleles) and heterozygosity was introduced to our gene pool since Adam and Eve, about 6000 years ago, so these guys need a hell lot of mutations to explain that, since the only sources of genetic diversity are mutations and gene flow.

[@liger314194]

Bro you are doing the lord's work here man. People will be watching this series years into the future.

[@mmerri9780]

My father in law asked me if he can take my 6 yo daughter to "The Ark Encounter". I am so tempted to send these creationist debunks to him

[@Hundredyacrewoods]

Do it.

[@Tiktaalik59]

Wow, your father's request sounds like a child abuse. No, it actually is child abuse. Don't let him do it.

[@WalterWunder]

How can a sect center like "Biola University" even have the status of a university? Academic degrees for rain dance, fascism and tea-leaf reading? Are there no guidelines in the USA? Such a thing is unknown in Europe. Well, unfortunately there are still theological faculties, but no academics take them seriously, they are medieval eyesores, don't count as science and are gradually disappearing. But schools of magic à la Hogwarts or "Biola" are thankfully unthinkable.

[@samsoto1990]

I can't wait

[@razercp9322]

THANKS DAVE LOVE YA ❤

[@jonnawyatt]

Don't suppose Douglas Axe will write a paper which details how his god designs and creates.

[@robertcarsten4050]

Had to rewind to make sure he said "and if the 4 year olds are right" Buddy...... No one has ever used that sentence before because..... Well there shouldn't be an explanation required here

[@alexmenke7131]

I could watch these on repeat daily and not get bored

[@ericsbuds]

thanks for the upload! rally appreciate you refuting these people!

[@noneofyourbusiness7055]

Pretty sure I found the videos you showed of him. No comments in months, not even my new one. Looks like they know people are looking in their direction and have taken steps to protect their flock from inconvenient information…

[@nuniqoffical]

I dunno how these folks get PhDs..

[@maylingng4107]

They receive PhD's by pretending to go along with science and keeping quiet while in school.

[@mjjoe76]

By getting PhDs in unrelated fields or by turning their backs on legitimate science in favor of a political and cultural agenda.

[@helmaschine1885]

Being good at studying isn't a guarantee that they're a good & honest human being...Same way doctors that end up harming patients get PhDs and accolades before they get caught. Having a talent for studying and/or having money for good tutors.

[@maylingng4107]

@@helmaschine1885 Doctors generally receive an M.D. degree.

[@cygnustsp]

Ben Carson is a brain surgeon and yet fully YEC and anti evolution.

[@TheDZHEX]

10:43 I lost my sh*t when those little explosions showed up on the structure, for some reason I find that absolutely hilarious xD

[@Richardj410]

It never ends the stuff people make up to prove the are correct.

[@ObservantHistorian]

I came across this comment earlier today in response to a post on Creation Myth: "just give your example of a Creationist making the blunder - preferably give us two - as a Design proponent I do not believe that even the young earth Creationists are generally as bad as you make out. Where it is just a non-qualified KZbinr or preacher in their pulpit (who cannot be challenged as they preach), fine, you may have a point, their usage of terms may be very bad, even fatal to their argument. BUT I STILL WANT TO SEE THE CLIP, not just your blanket accusations which I find vapid and irrelevant as I do not make the errors you make - and neither do all the PhDs at the Discovery Institute, Stephen Meyer et al" I suggested that the commenter take a look at this series.

[@Visshaldar]

it never ceases to amaze me how these guys can call the audience stupid right to their faces and they don't notice. "academia is in an ivory tower looking down" = "you're too stupid to learn what they know"

[@pureflix8086]

Thats even more funny since his degree makes him one of those in the "ivory tower" 😂

[@ErrantMasa]

they shout that from their obsidian bunkers while daubing the Wedge Document across the walls in their own excrement!

[@SemiIocon]

It's so revealing how they think about academia as "dispensing great wisdom from above", because that is how their religion is structured and they are unable to imagine groups who aren't structured just like that.

[@fazergazer]

Plus, using folding reporters we can challenge proteins to evolve compensatory mutations that make their folding trajectories robust and more tolerant of designed mutations for active site engineering! Such “super folder” proteins have many uses as scaffolds for protein engineering and design. Gene shuffling and selection using reporters makes laboratory engineering and selection of new protein folding and function argues against Axe’s simplistic and disingenuous mindset.

[@KeithCooper-Albuquerque]

Excellent video! I love your work!

[@handstandish]

Quite a blunt approach Dave. I like it! More idiots please for our education and entertainment. Thanks from here in Australia. Were there kangaroos on the Ark?

[@ajniecithya5849]

Said the king to the bishop: you keep them dump, I keep them poor.

[@mattbrook-lee7732]

The 10^77 number has really caught on with creationists. You see it quoted all over the comments on KZbin. Usually with the additional claim that they have personally done the maths. How do you stop these myths from spreading?

[@marknieuweboer8099]

Mocking them as often as you can.

[@al4nmcintyre]

Three peer-reviewed papers? I ended up with a couple just in the course of being a PhD dropout, despite not really caring about publishing papers. How are these guys so bad at doing any actual research work? Oh right, creationists...