Exposing Patrick Bet-David's Pyramid Scheme | Hasanabi Reacts to Always Marco

[@HasanReactionsfanTwo]

Shout out to Always Marco, you can find more of him at his channel: www.youtube.com/@AlwaysMarco I hope you enjoy the video :)

[@sevensages5279]

It's about time Patrick has been called out on his scheme! Patrick is constantly bashing and criticizing others when he has a most shady past! 🧐

[@thedude1982]

@@sevensages5279 u just don't like Armenians

[@sevensages5279]

@thedude1982 No, it's just hypocrite grifters! Doesn't matter where they are from! Ana Kasperian is an Armenian, and she's very likable!

[@NoNo47668]

People hate but those scams were just valuetaining

[@sevensages5279]

😂😂😂 Patrick didn't even come up with that name! He just saw the website and bought it!

[@cjboyo]

NOTHING is quite as demoralizing as doing a job interview and getting offered a “job” only to google the company and find out its one of these. Especially if you really need the work 😭

[@mrsulaiman19]

If you own a car do uber, until you find a good job.

[@pranays]

​@@mrsulaiman19that's bad advice better off with a minimum wage job than uber. The vehicle maintenance and the pay uber gives isn't worth it for 90% of people

[@CaptnCanada85]

Didn’t know the MLM history, but now his podcast and personality makes complete sense.

[@zoro8117]

Yes its almost always a scamer and Piece of shyte of a Person spreading those rihht wing ideas

[@wolf980911]

clealy a direct continuation of gonzalo thought

[@TheWholeDamnShow007]

His podcast was built for him to get attention so he can plug his MLM company to his followers

[@deckernk]

It's easy! You do work, Boss pays you -> Job You do work, Boss doesn't pay you -> Slavery You do work, you pay Boss -> MLM

[@johnwatters3431]

Except it's even worse than that. PBD would argue that you are your own boss, so it's really you pay some random guy who's not your boss or your employee.

[@JohnMwangi-jv3pp]

Good one

[@JhamEntertainment]

I’ve been waiting for over a year for PBD to be exposed for his MLM. Honestly, it makes his podcast even more hilarious.

[@wplants9793]

@MA-ts3xs This exactly

[@alih6953]

why years? Coffeezilla has done one a while back

[@IamLegend32]

​@@MA-ts3xs💯💯💯

[@pranays]

​@@MA-ts3xsSam Seder made PDB crew look like clowns

[@Fleshdeficiency]

I’m not valuetained! 😡

[@lanonstop3522]

😅

[@erockdlmon8645]

Hasan got a lot of heat for saying streaming is a hard job but if I had to explain what a pyramid scheme is and isn't to people 30 times in 20 minutes i would go insane

[@Mac0SXTutorials101]

Hassan was still acting like an out of touch prissy little bitch when he said those comments tho lol

[@gapsule2326]

Yeah streaming isnt necessarily hard. But doing it for leftist politics or history or science or anything that requires some level of care is difficult.

[@internalizedhappyness9774]

@@gapsule2326Jesus Christ so true! 😢

[@omargalindo7695]

Bro fr, chat was extra dumb that day it seems

[@nat123kol]

Nothing he said was wrong. But when an actor or professional athlete talks about how hard there job is everyone thinks who fucking cares

[@fdub301]

A pyramid scheme is indeed illegal, but the definition is specific enough for mlm's to slide by

[@abdalazeemal-mashaqba6600]

If you pay taxes the gov don't care

[@Angels510]

And they’re that specific by design

[@Trip4man]

if pyramid schemes are illegal then you have to consider banks illegal lol because that's EXACTLY what they do

[@dudeilikestuff]

Always Marco’s video was so good, glad i found it!

[@johnwatters3431]

I was wondering how anyone could fall for these kinds of schemes. Then I remembered that, back in elementary school, we used to regularly sell cookies and candy and shit for the school--i.e., beg family, friends, and neighbors to buy these treats--with the hopes of selling enough to either 1.) sell the most, or 2.) sell enough to get some cool prize from a catalog. I don't know if schoolchildren did this everywhere, but as someone who, years later, tried to sell MLM knives one summer out of pure desperation, I can say it's the exact same process.

[@Boredblacksheep]

I come via Marco's channel. The short answer is that you are presented with the opportunity by someone you know (and trust, bonus points if you hold them dear) in a moment of vulnerability. Then you get loved bombed and hyped with toxic positivity. And done, you're in. It fills in the need for money and community with the illusion of both.

[@savvyinfo9762]

Yes in my school I seen them candy lol never did it some reason didn’t wanna take a box to sell and no benefit for me

[@IamLegend32]

You're right, I never made the connection.. Even as I kid, I always thought those fundraiser bs was such a scam. The items were way overpriced and the "rewards" were super shitty.. That's why I never participated in them.

[@marcforget33]

PBD is a perfect example of a failed capitalist system. Of course he thinks the system is great but can you imagine what would happen if everybody chose the same career path?

[@merbst]

John Locke lived 100 years before the Founding Fathers, & he by the time they had read his book, he was primarily remembered for the concepts of the "tabula rasa" representing the blank slate of naivety & promise that we are born with, as well as his adaptation of that concept into the emerging theory of the "Social Contract" that comprises the rules that are imposed upon all of us born into society, in exchange for our protection from the primitive violence of Nature as was described by monarchy apologist Thomas Hobbes in his book, Leviathan. These are 2 of the cornerstones of the philosophical strand that would be further developed & named "Republicanism" a century later by Edmund Burke, as an ideology for people who shared his outrage about the Execution of the King of France & overthrow of the monarchy in favor of its replacement with democracy. Of course, during the past 200 years, the relatively reasonable ideals which Burke had written have metastisized, escalated in extremity until now that the original form has been renamed "classical republicanism" to make room for the modern Republicans whose ideology is more appropriately described as "ultranationalist neofascist reactionary authoritarianism", much like the degradation of "classical liberalism" into "neo-liberal austerity + platitudes + performative identity politics".

[@muscularclassrepresentativ5663]

Extremely based and informative thank u!

[@severalwolves]

and nowadays reactionary psychos rage against the concept of the social contract entirely - they’re aggrieved by the suggestion that any social obligation could trump their liberty to do or say whatever they want at any given time.

[@wplants9793]

Why thank you

[@johnfitzgerald2426]

All those people contributed to the founding of America, everyone else is just into chaos

[@jeliz187]

The whole RNC is an MLM. That's why guys like PBD are very pro Republican. The more influence you have the higher the level in the RNC.

[@curmudgeon1933]

You only have to look at Amway heiress Betsy DeVos. Trump and the GOP installed her as Education Secretary, deliberately, to train a whole generation of public school students to become willing acolytes to just such MLM scammers as PBD...and believe they will get rich by doing so. lol

[@yehoshuacanaan]

I think the kind of psychology that leads one to join an mlm just often overlaps with a worldview that leads to someone supporting the republican party

[@mfindley08]

I understand your reasoning, but that's just politics more generally, DNC included. See the current sun downing geezer in office for reference.

[@MaseTheMeninist]

Ironic considering the dems literally sabotaged Bernie in support of Biden

[@IamLegend32]

Good point. You're absolutely correct brother.

[@severalwolves]

I’m still blown away by the revelation that the ‘ment’ in Valuetainment stands for “movement” - its such a baby-brained idea of a genius move lol

[@immkk1125]

I thought it was value + attainment 😭😭😭😭 where is "movement" coming from? What's the heck does the "tain" mean??? My brain is so confused I refuse to accept someone can be this dumc

[@rozzaziobrown6515]

I assumed it was jusg value+entertainment

[@fourmoyle]

THISSSS

[@severalwolves]

@@immkk1125 nope it’s supposed to be: value + entertainment _+ movement_ I mean it makes sense with just the value & entertainment, but he just had to add something else for some fucking reason, it’s wild (and profoundly stupid haha)

[@immkk1125]

@@severalwolves well that's dumber than I thought...and I'm dumb lmao

[@WhitePillMan]

Always Marco is a real G going after these MLMs

[@IamLegend32]

Yeah going after MLMs is kinda like going after scientology. They like to threaten with litigation.

[@severalwolves]

watching hasan try to explain simple concepts to a chat full of cloistered 20 year olds is so aggravating haha

[@MAfr3ak]

Scams like MLMs replicate because the victims/customers/salespeople realize the scam/method then think they can do the same to others. Sometimes they're right but obviously there's only so many people to scam. I learned this from playing runescape as a kid.

[@TheShaggyGriffin]

Patrick Bet-David is just bizarro Mr. Bean. Looks just like him but never stops talking.

[@tashachantal5711]

21:20 When I worked as a sales accosiate at Bench, I had to buy their clothes every season and only wear their products while selling, bjt only management got a clothing allowance.

[@Mollypop_1]

I hate calling pyramid schemes multi level marketing, it makes it sound like it has a semblance of legitimacy.

[@laurag502]

or “direct sales companies” 🤢

[@SeenNothinYet]

I think is kinda “apt”, kinda … a pyramid scheme needs to be marketed at different levels in order to exist.

[@imalursi8180]

MLMs are recognized by court judges. What’s illegitimate?

[@Mollypop_1]

@imalursi8180 I guess it's better because there's an actual product with mlms but the structures are the same. Mlms are scummy and ruin people. I just can't feel good buying any of it

[@averyharley2197]

It is abundantly clear that the chatter age skews low, based on how hard it is for some of them to understand the difference between basic things like scummy practices vs. illegal behavior. As well as what actually constitutes for the definition of the bad words they've heard, like MLMs vs. Ponzi Schemes. Anyone who's searched, paid for, and used any form of insurance, especially health/auto insurance, knows that yes it sucks the way it works, but not having it is realistically not a viable option for the long term. Also that there is a difference between the insurance product, the insuring company, and the agents/brokerage companies that also sell on behalf of the insuring companies. Mind you, all three of those things have inherent problems, but some are worse than others.

[@pugness]

Admittedly mlm relies on that vague grey area difference between legal and illegal. So it's understandable why it's confused for legitimate commission sales

[@demoninveins]

According to the last demographic poll 37% of the viewers are 30+

[@omegadirective]

Listening to Hasan trying to explain the concept of insurance to his chat is so funny. He's trying so hard to explain it in a factual way, but the way the general public misunderstands the concept of insurance is so frustrating to me, a guy who works in insurance.

[@j_tsar]

what do you think about primerica? Just got to this country (from vzla) and a friend that also just got here but we don't talk much messaged me like a regular Convo and then she was like oh yeah let me show you how I make money and at the end of the presentation I found out it was primerica :(

[@j_tsar]

and I think people like us, immigrats that just got here are so vulnerable to that :/

[@severalwolves]

@@j_tsarKZbin seems to be deleting my replies stay away from that company - they are an MLM scam (and they do specifically try to recruit people from immigrant communities)

[@severalwolves]

@@j_tsarmy replies keep getting deleted but I am just trying to warn you to stay far away from that company!

[@severalwolves]

I am trying to warn the above commenter to stay far away from that company but my messages keep disappearing D:

[@presidentalpaca]

i used to watch a ton of videos recounting mlm stories from reddit, so i get that im not coming from the same place as everyone else, but it's still wild seeing chat fight hasan so much on this and not rlly get what a pyramid scheme is. it's always seemed straightforward to me.

[@presidentalpaca]

avon and tupperware are some of the most successful examples. and at their beginnings, they did have a somewhat positive purpose, in that they were a lot of women's entry point into the job market (tupperware parties and door-to-door avon sales). but regardless, you still need to buy the product, then it's up to you to sell it, or you're just not getting that money back.

[@severalwolves]

I watch a lot of anti-MLM stuff too. do you know the channel that does MLM “hun” posts, and then also covers r/nice guys, choosing beggars, and crypto bros taking Ls?

[@StoriesByDighe]

Oh god, really really back in the day I was in the WFG MLM. Lol Alhambra, CA. It's so much of a scam that the product they sell doesn't even sum out.

[@final_catalyst]

what makes the insurance sales mlm's is that some actually operate on similar models with 2 sets of businesses a mlm recruiting and sending revenue upstream and the salespeople being screwed. one company that was looking to recruit me, had my "manager" make % off every sale I would do and the guy above him gets a %on the total he collected and so on. with the idea being eventually I build a team of people. so it works as one at its core with stubs that are "ligament" but exploited as they are essentially "harvested" for their social connections, most of the time you will sell to family friends extra, then stall out. Then the mlm manager guy ropes in a few more to get more sales.

[@mgers75]

He verifies he's a con artist scammer by addressing anything that an honest answer would expose him with minutes of mindless word salad, filibustering, deflection, flattery, and changing subject. He's a master of this and it works almost every time.

[@zeliagonzales9422]

I love Always Marco! So glad he’s watching his videos

[@dropyourself]

Batrick Bet David

[@feistygheisty]

Batrick Bet Dabid

[@WiltedGoldRoses]

Batrick Pet David

[@commandantcarpenter]

🅱️atrick 🅱️et 🅱️avi🅱️

[@merbst]

My mom tried & failed to transition from a 6 figure accounting department manager at Northrop Grumman to selling Real estate. I assume because she was short & introverted she was only given a far away, distant small condo to sell which took a year of work to make $6K as her 3% commission.

[@sataniccabal4276]

Isn’t real estate, even if it did work out for her, a downgrade?

[@Mike_Sunshine]

PBD is a master gishgallop.

[@temporarilyimmortal795]

Whenever he's pressed on an issue he doesn't have an answer for, he interrupts the conversation, acting as if he has something profound to add, only to redirect the entire topic. He's such a sleazy scumbag.

[@hasanshaikh4463]

This guy makes great videos I saw his one about Ed Mylett and didn’t realize he became rich off MLM as well. And idk how these guys pivot to “motivational speaking”.

[@fourmoyle]

It falls in line with keeping your sales force motivated.

[@Boredblacksheep]

They write hype books using toxic positivity, feel good bs, etc. Then they become well known in an MLM company, then they become famous in multiple MLM companies and then they just become famous.

[@adamcornell1186]

I have been THROUGHLY Valuetained!

[@applecatnyango]

It's WILD that Patrick spins the government's incompetence at spotting and shutting down predatory business practices into uber-competence and then lean onto the fact that his shady MLM company has yet to be shut down to give off the impression that he's doing something legit instead of just _technically_ legal.

[@fudogwhisperer3590]

MLM is divided into two streams of money. The product that is sold and the "tools" or motivation and sales education side of the business that consists of weekly monthly yearly gatherings, books, motivational materials.

[@bh-zj4yt]

Behind every fortune is a crime

[@farrahirrgauss2599]

How about CROOK

[@lifeasrini]

This is the third video this week that has off handedly described Eric Warre as a bad guy ... new villain dropped i guess

[@myninjalife]

Had an ex break up with me because their parents were mad I told them their "multilevel marketing" opportunity was pyramid shaped and I wasnt interested. Well.. I was also young and pretty shitty at the time, so it could have been that instead.

[@Zetsubou738]

Great vid I'm just realizing my dad was in a few of these. Anyone ever heard of nikken....

[@Olie109]

I live in Fort Lauderdale. And just today driving somewhere saw a quite a big building with the Valutenment on it. I guess they just bought it.

[@alejandrorivas4585]

What? Where? I live here too. Well, I'm out by wilton but still.

[@sevensages5279]

With all that dirty MLM money! 🫣🫣🫣

[@signoresantinoburnett1169]

That's his studio.

[@Olie109]

@@alejandrorivas4585yes it’s on Dixie hwy just past Commercial a little bit on a right side. Can’t miss it- it’s pretty big 😊

[@curmudgeon1933]

11:50. Amway MLM owners don't go to jail...they get made Education Secretary. lol

[@rundmv93]

PBD has outstayed his welcome here online, enough fake sauce

[@merbst]

Mathematicians have a saying that MLMs are Capitalism's way of publishing people who don't understand divergent infinite series!

[@sarahsimon6]

42:31 THATS A CRAZY THING TO SAY LMAOOO

[@sevensages5279]

35:15 A simpler way to explain an MLM insurance co. vs reg. Insurance. MLM insurance salespeople mostly sell to their recruits!

[@TheInterestedObserver]

exactly your customers for the insurance become sellers of the insurance for new customers of the insurance who become sellers ad infinitum. It's like these coaching courses that are only sold to people who want to sell coaching course to coaches, so nobody is actually ever coached, you just create more coach sellers.

[@Fleato]

okay legit one of the few times I have been offended in the past years was when an old friend of mine from my Army days who I was in nursing school with, messaged me out of the blue, checking on how i was doing. then started trying to get me onto his MLM.... I was like nah man that's all you, and he kept pushing, eventually I said " I don't want to join your pyramid scheme" and he like, got offended and was like "what it's not a pyramid scheme it's amway they're a fortune 500 blah blah" like dude. you really think im dumb enough after i just called it what it is, that I'm going to sign up. but it's not their fault I guess they don't realize yet that they have been swindled into a pyramid scheme. they even opened with saying " I started my own business" and shit lol. like no, you didn't.

[@savvyinfo9762]

I used to swipe on girls on dating app promoting this mlm and I would chat with them and these women so enthusiastically trying to convince me to get on board so I can be rich and when I ask how and I tell them it’s scam right away un match from a dating app lol

[@milesbenham]

I have a homie that is buying into PHP, it is tough, he is such a believer.

[@heavenwaits]

honestly john oliver’s segment on MLMs is pretty useful and kinda built to deprogram MLM members, maybe try sending him that video?

[@pranays]

Cummerbund is the "belt" that matches the bow tie Hasan was asking about.

[@shunfutures8675]

Patrick Bet David’s belt makes him look like the heavy weight champion of pimps lol

[@IamLegend32]

Everyone go watch Penn & Tellers show "Bullshit" they did an episode on MLMs. The best breakdown I've ever seen of this scam

[@tonymontez2358]

PBD scammed his way to the top made millions turned into a right wing republican who preaches right wing ideology that hard work is the answer and you too can be a multi millionaire like him when that’s clearly not how it works, he’s such a grifter lol 😂

[@alde1611]

Support Always Marco he’s a good guy , he’s been trying to make it since his mate Phillip Solo blew up for a bit. Glad Hasan platformed him .

[@ashkaunadib7638]

As an Iranian, we do not claim this mofo.

[@zackamania6534]

The value is IN the TAINMENT, yall

[@darrenmulvaney7286]

Wow a sketchy boss...show me a boss who's not sketchy...

[@somethingclever1457]

I was in WFG in 2011. This video is accurate.

[@cjboyo]

I always send the last week tonight mlm segment to people in my life flirting with mlms It works like 20-30% of the time

[@texmex1210]

John Oliver has a really good episode on this multi level marketing crap.

[@Adela_S.R]

PBD is selling his merch on podcast, something is going on, I mean he was pushing hats , some drink..lol..I wrote and told them that it was odd to see a podcast with millions pushing sales for the "future looks bright" hats wtf..it was ghetto from a multi millionaire..threw me off really...

[@satorified1612]

PBD is HP’s new Jordan Peterson.

[@PaddyCollector]

capitalism is so great you can talk about business ALL DAY EVERY DAY and NEVER ONCE say what product or service you sell.

[@errickrichardson2520]

I see why Patrick loves Trump so much. Patrick wants to be like Trump. A super conartist. This video explains so much.

[@PhilP8980]

Patrick Bet-David. Valuetaining by answering questions with questions relentlessly.

[@GizmoMaxx]

Patrick David is a looooong time coming exposé.

[@ibejerdan]

Marco is good people, I remember him from his friend Philip Solo. Didnt know he had a channel, followed for sure!

[@rumbletown1563]

MLM are the truly worst part of capitalism

[@stevenlindell8345]

Man I’m happy I found this video. Something always seemed off to me concerning pat. Now I know why. He’s just a scam artist. Nothing special about him.

[@Jeremy-th5pt]

Like streaming is a "real" job! 😂

[@francescoconcordia6297]

Always Marco super underrated

[@zackamania6534]

Personal Brand David

[@Badlex727]

The person who made the video Hasan is reacting to sounds like if Ben Shapiro was a good guy

[@AntePavic-i2b]

HASAN YOU SHOULD GO ON PBD’s SHOW IT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION

[@Job-u1b]

A scammer calling a scammer out. Gotta love ametica

[@KingSeven123]

Pyramids are also multi level.

[@trajan74]

MLM's do target rich people. They love recruiting rich people because it helps them sell the dream. They make it look like all the wealth and success came from the MLM and in exchange the rich guy recruits poors like mad and climbs the ranks superfast and becomes vested. Now the MLM is just one more source of passive income for them.

[@goldenclarity4765]

Chat confusing the scam of capitalism for mlm scams 😂

[@literallyfake69]

11:46 i have several coworkers involved in MLM. completely legal that they are scamming and being scammed.

[@IronySpidery]

Someone needs to show Hasan a Ted Ed Historical or Mythological video. They are SO good.

[@huntr1998]

the product is insurance.

[@arkasiddique]

thank you

[@Simsrockslol]

mlm’s make me so ill. i feel so bad

[@khaliltribie8739]

had no clue about this but his smug ass attitude makes sense now

[@fdub301]

OMG, i can't believe it. Who'da thunk it?

[@pompelmostique]

I thought Betsy married into the DeVoss family... Her brother's last name is Prince... I think the Amway dude is her father-in-law or on her husband's side. Both sides suck.

[@curmudgeon1933]

The terrible twins ... Betsy DeVos as Education Secretary, and brother Erik Prince as founder of Blackwater aka Academi.

[@pompelmostique]

@@curmudgeon1933 oh he's a giant private miliary contractor turd. Erik is definitely a bastard too

[@randallphillips6555]

31:49 why we watch Hasan Reactions

[@TommyDavidVerbal]

Talk about calling the kettle black

[@jmuniz15]

Everyone that I have known in my life that entered an MLM in the end, got Fucked. Friends and family members that where die hard committed to it and had done it for a minimum of 10 years, ended up with nothing, having to work other jobs just to keep paying in to the MLM and having to constantly buy their product to stay relevant. In the end they lost everything and family members and friends don't want them around as they kept trying to recruit them and constantly sell them crap. Don't drink the Kool Aid. I tried to help em and teach them how to actually invest your money, and they will not have it. Now I am the one financially successful and they are in a rough situation. Don't fall for the BS

[@JamesKonzek-xr5zy]

I wonder how much PBD benefited from the Trump tax break.

[@omidsouresrafil7386]

PhD in saying nothing. You summed it up

[@GrimReader]

Insurance in and of itself isn’t a scam but the way it operates is. It’s illegal to not have insurance for a vehicle but if you have to use the insurance they will then charge you more which disincentivises you in using it. And the “discount” is so bullshit it isn’t worth it

[@endoritoo]

Why does hassan have an edgar cut?

[@meha1X]

Min 42:08 was unexpected 👽🤯

[@supermossboy1226]

I believe the word you are looking for is scrutinized...

[@standinby]

So this PBD's villain origin story. !@#$ing "Network Marketing" BS.

[@IamLegend32]

I agree, if you argue that MLMs are scam because of the failure rate, I feel like you're almost legitimizing it as a business.. And you're giving more fuel to the pro MLM folks. We just need to say it's in outright scam because it's false advertising and it's business model.

[@pranays]

Fix your comprehension skills

[@IamLegend32]

​@@pranaysafter you fix yours, doofus.

[@mrmarcowar237]

Why are they trying to bring down my boy PBD? I'm NOT valutained 😔😔😔😔

[@sevensages5279]

Because he ran a sleazy MLM ! And because he is constantly bashing others when his history is far worse!🧐🧐🧐

[@gman9002]

because someone sees one person get a lot of views by "Exposing" said person so everyone jumps on the train. Its pretty ironic people making money from talking shit about another person by calling them a scammer.

[@ZsoltHellner]

You work for 40yrs to have $1m in your retirement, Meanwhile some people are putting just $10k in a meme coin for just few months sometimes lesser and now they are multi millionaires. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life ✊🏻❤️

[@ZsoltHellner]

Only God knows how much grateful i am. After so much struggles I now own a new house and my family is happy once again everything is finally falling into place! I can’t thank you enough Mrs Mary Elizabeth Webb!

[@richiehedaya]

Hello how can I make such amounts monthly ?? I'm a born Christian so I try not to indulge in some kinda things but I’ll really appreciate if you can explain this to me. A lot of times I feel so down 🤦 cos I’ve had a couple opportunities pass me by because of ignorance. Then again not all of us have an idea of what meme coins are or how we are supposed to earn from them. Surely you can’t just google up a meme coin and invest in it casually, can you?

[@ZsoltHellner]

Thanks to my co-worker (Sean) who suggested Mrs Mary Elizabeth Webb.

[@ZsoltHellner]

After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my son's surgery (Benjamin). Glory to God.shalom

[@richiehedaya]

@@ZsoltHellner Who’s that supposed to be?

[@dustinvanpelt2068]

I like PBD. Still do.

[@JamesHobart-tb6ik]

PBD not so religious. Disappointed