Expropriation without compensation? Panic among South Africa's white farmers

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Land is a hot button issue in South Africa where racial inequality still runs deep a generation after apartheid. Based on the "willing buyer, willing seller" principle, the land redistribution promised by Nelson Mandela is slow. The ruling African National Congress now wants to speed up the process by amending the property clause in the constitution. A total of 139 farms have allegedly been targeted for expropriation, sowing panic among white farmers. Caroline Dumay and Stefan Carstens report.
A programme prepared by Patrick Lovett.
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[@wazybundas5567]

The reality is that majority will vote in favor of expropriation without compensation.

[@1895jk]

The reality is also that SA will experience mass hunger...

[@davidsimpson9647]

@@1895jk Like Rhodesia

[@acca1461]

@@davidsimpson9647 the reality it will be their own doing not that of White people

[@rent1plussouth562]

The reality is...Africa deserves to do what’s necessary to protect the land as the Americans and every other Continent does for their countries’ supposed original ppl. Expropriation without compensation!!!

[@rent1plussouth562]

1895jk why bcuz the white farmer is gonna get booted!? Doubt it!!!

[@che7879]

I am white and I support African taking back their land those people have suffered too much through our hands.come back to Europe we are waiting for you in open arms

[@WeAreTrueAfrican]

Reparations for the land you stole 😂😂🤣😂

[@rraumyz588]

They have to give back the land to the native southAfricans and go back to Europe No compensation

[@negritainthejungle1625]

It's about taking back what's theirs. PERIOD!!! YOUR UN POSSESSION OF STOLEN PROPERTY.

[@gmr4life884]

State sponsored racism. Congrats for supporting insanity.

[@kennethmayner6486]

The United States could utilize the South African farmers' agricultural expertise. Bring them all over as refugees. We have plenty of land.

[@azaniashabari2607]

I wish he can do that, Africa for Africans

[@azaniashabari2607]

We want our land back, those pale skin will never leave South Africa

[@iphone202020220]

@@azaniashabari2607 Go find a job and pay for land.

[@muradadam4955]

@@iphone202020220 you go get a job and make me money donkey

[@iphone202020220]

@@muradadam4955 No thanks, Go find a job and stop being a bum claiming welfare checks. Go work for your money, We're tired of paying for you with our tax money.

[@aussiestallion69]

All I can think is ... Zimbabwe

[@aussiestallion69]

grace njeru so Africans never invaded other lands? Had wars with other people? If it comes to be and the farms are repossessed come back and comment in a few years how that works out for S.A

[@decoloniz_afro]

@@aussiestallion69 HHHHHHHHH YOU SHOULD FEEL ASHAMED OF YOURSELF FOR SAYING AFRICANS INVADE OTHERS............A CHILD OF DEVIL JUST NEVER UNDERSTAND.. ESCAPING IS IN YOUR BLOOD..I MEAN BARBERIC ACTS IS JUST IN YOUR RACE LETS SAY

[@decoloniz_afro]

@C Cleopatra THIS DEVILS JUST NEVER GET IT

[@aussiestallion69]

C Cleopatra excuse me what did I decide for you? You are more than welcome to do whatever you want in Europe, I care not one iota. In any case you have very little military capability, economic clout, or social standing to influence European decisions. For your sake I would be more concerned about the influence China is having is Africa.

[@fernandomargellan3176]

@ Ross all you can think is Zimbabwe but do you know that theses people still came back after Zimbabwean sent them packing, why didn't they go to Holland for there farming ?simply because they know they will be poor . It's only Africa they know they can cheat

[@jmtrade777]

Does anyone else see this as making room for the Chinese ?

[@jmtrade777]

Rude Boy 77 - Ignorant,racist comments are generally made by ignorant racist people. If you sincerely think what you wrote then I feel sorry for you.

[@jeanne-annstott283]

Rare earth minerals - what's under the ground is the question to ask.

[@janemu-mx1ec]

I do, they are the only ones playing the long game and as an African, that scares me greatly

[@skywalker7778]

It's not about the farms... It's about the possibilities of mining UNDER the farms... The ANC government is seriously committed to remove farmers/tribal trusts and mine resources which will (mostly) be sold to China.

[@wisdomleader85]

@TheCamshafter They're communists. What do you expect?

[@doughtymqan]

SKYwalker 777 In other words, not producing, but looting.

[@damianpos8832]

@TheCamshafter make lot of sanse africa is chiness china

[@emilloffler1216]

@TheCamshafter No wonder some call them "the devil's people." Whatever they try to do run ends in criminal-corruption and ruin.

[@jeevansingh7772]

@@damianpos8832 I agree with you. Recently 50 heads of state from Africa were given 240 trillion USD by China. Caught in a Chinese DEBT TRAP. South Africa will be colonized but its people don't see the bigger picture. The Chinese takeover of South Africa.

[@peaxdge3569]

Did your father came with land to africa

[@tr1084]

Zimbabwe 2: Starvation Boogaloo

[@Dominic-fd2wz]

Carbon 6 communism always fails

Of course they will claim the best most developed farms.

[@Fuudimitzu]

@Woman Restored They will ruin those farms in few months probably.

[@optimistic5778]

And it wont be worth anything afterwards.

[@optimistic5778]

@Woman Restored Stealing is your forté

[@kellymonroe4380]

@@thestrengthwowwow4472 I'd rather be pink than black.

[@djlyon2864]

Ile Adura your time is up😂😂

[@tomfair8999]

Russia , Australia and the US can use these farmers. Word of caution, Zimbabwe did this and millions starved and the country's ruined.

[@ressljs]

I wonder if immigrating to America will be easy. I think Trump would welcome them, but a large segment of our government will either refuse to believe there could be discrimination against whites (see Canada for an example), or they'll block it simply to defy the President and if people in a far away country are being killed, at least they can go to sleep knowing Trump didn't get his way.

[@tomfair8999]

@@ressljs well said

[@kahumasolomon]

It didn't starve whites sanction s as always

[@jacquesstephen777]

Stupid comment, western countries plot to isolate Zimbabwe for what they did. That’s why they did. This time, they will not be alone SA and Namibia will follow

[@BobbaDons]

And people with money will not want to invest in a country when that countries government risks stealing from said investors. They are stealing from these farmers, who is to say they won’t steal from you... investors look at that kind of sh*t before throwing their money around.

[@SymphonyBrahms]

Welcome to ZimbabRuin.

[@cccCCCccc123ccc]

Zimbabwe 2.0

[@awannnn9858]

Compensation to whom the looters, vandalizes, occupiers you never compensate a looter who loots jewelry from a shop takes home and get caught you put him behind the bars you don't compensate him lol never imagine thugs will goona ask for compensation they are lucky they are not behind bars .

[@enlightenedarsonist3908]

2 years....will be seeing ads asking to send money because south Africans are starving to death.

[@pslgreg]

Too true, and I will be crying, from laughing so hard.

[@mm_exposers7236]

You guys are just piece of rubbish.. u always negative

[@luckydubeinrc5165]

Why does the south african government (ANC) not release the 60 % land they are holding unto, only 10 % is held by farmers ! the ANC is keeping the 60% land for themselves.

[@KabulMM]

@Stephan Gildenhuys Lying to yourselves won't make you clever

[@abdulgafarmuhiadinmohamed9177]

That false u lying ...

[@abdulgafarmuhiadinmohamed9177]

@Stephan Gildenhuys that's not the right thing to say .....

[@sakhilengobesa4898]

Are you sure you're stats are correct?

[@NoWeedDrinkSexFapping]

He "bought" it.. Yeah, ok.

[@gmr4life884]

As in exchanged goods, service or money for a piece of property. Welcome to the modern world. You folks have had a long time to adapt to it.

[@zakhelesimelane4096]

More like a thief that purchased from other thieves and want that sale to be regarded as legal.

[@LindaSibeko-j2v]

Bought stolen property 😊

[@michaelanderson1859]

Sounds like the farmers should take all their equipment with them and demolish any improvements they have made like buildings wells irrigation etc. The new owners can farm with horses and handmade tools.

[@CoolPapaCash]

Take everything and go. We'll use bones, sticks and horse drawn carriages. Bye bye now! Do forget to write!

[@cjels5400]

CoolPapaCash Dont forget to write down the number , to call if the first hunger strikes

[@g.mgomza239]

That's how you found us in the first place if you want supremacy you'll find it at your home so called europe

[@calvinroyal8376]

4,000 hectares to a Zulu "community" This one white guy has over 30,000 hectares.

[@ekd5213]

Paid for....managed well

[@Siya4k]

​@@ekd5213paid for where? They stole it.

[@kalaharimine]

The critical assett is the farmer, you can't eat the land.

[@maximusaugustus3355]

As a white man, my opinion is this land should be returned to the native people. Pay the white farmers a fair price and redistribute. Let Africa be run by Africans, BUT let Europe be run by white European Christians.

[@Allaboutmacpc]

The sad truth is that we have a racist government and nation. This country of ours will eventually become nothing and will be destroyed by the people in charge. There is almost nothing that can be done, best to move assets out of the country. If the state of the country doesn’t improve I’ll eventually move out of the country myself.

[@truth-Hurts375]

No....The sad truth is....you can give it but you cant take it !!

[@mupenzirobzy6643]

May be your those living on stolen land, leave us alone you not fit to South Africa

[@wendyferguson4829]

IT IS ALREADY DESTROYED COMPLETED AS NOT ONE GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT IS WORKING, THE COFFERS HAVE BEEN STOLEN BLIND, AND WE HAVE A SO CALLED PRESIDENT WHO IS A BILLIONARE HOPING TO GRAB MORE NOTHING MORE IT TOO THE THIEVING ANC 25 YEARS TO TOTALLY DESTROY A WHOLE COUNTRY THAT IS THE BLACK WAY STEAL, TAKE FOR FREE AND GIVE NOTHING IN RETURN THEN TURN TO THE WHITES FOR JOBS!

[@ibramblebush]

It's not your country.

[@ibramblebush]

@@wendyferguson4829 WTF?!!! It's amazing how for your people lying is just as natural as breathing.

[@hiltonmoses4025]

I'm taking my family and leaving this beautiful country I had so much hope but I have to think of my kids and there futures,it's not us as South Africans that's the issue its certain politicians that create hate speech among everyone I have an African gentleman with his family wonderful family on my left and I have an Afrikaaner on my right wonderful family as neighbors we braai together and watch sports together our kids play together our kids even go to the same schools in the area we take turns dropping the kids everyday as proud parents we have no issues with each other we love and look out for each other as brother and sister So I'm going to say this if you want land go and work for it take out a bond pay it off over years then it's yours only once it's paid for don't expect handouts

[@heaty007]

there is a place called soweto.

[@musajohannessithole8970]

Which bond? Who came with that idea of such a bond? Surely it's not us Africans. Allow us to build our country and continent. If we happen to call it a bond, it's fine.

[@musajohannessithole8970]

@Boerboel 1652 Let us idiot's do what idiots do best, expropriating land without compensation. You do not have to worry about that because you may course yourself an unnecessary heart attack.

[@Peterblack12]

And don't let the door hit you on the way out!

[@ericscaillet2232]

@@user-pi4su6je8p it was unequal as way back then the blacks were unequal - simple as that .

[@isrbillmeyer]

Stop the thing of "Reclaim" Working on a Farm does not entitle you to suddenly be a co-owner of the farm. They are talking of Redistribution. Take note - Redistribution, because all history proves that the whites did not steal the land. What you are witnessing is blatant theft based on race. The Apartheid Government relocated people yes - but they were compensated, given alternative land. In fact - after the relocation of 1913 blacks had more and better land than before. There is not even remotely a comparison between then and now - because what you see now is a cabal of thieves who claim that the 2% land from which people were relocated in 1913 now justifies them to take 100% of the entire South Africa without historical or legal justification. This is theft. Full Stop. And the world is silent or cheering on. And you French - you who tell Israel to go for a "Two State Solution", may you soon see your land also divided up among foreign nations as you are accomplices in the persecution of the Boer Nation and Israel. May every curse you brought on us with your action and deliberate inaction come down on yourselves.

[@ingedagte]

Amen.

[@smalltownjet906]

Well said👌

[@smalltownjet906]

Southern Africa should be grateful for Europeans coming here and creating abundance where there was little more than stone age development. European settlers came and dragged this part of Africa, kicking and screaming, up from the primordial ooze and rather quickly established a society and infrastructure that could parallel any. The native Africans also enjoyed the fruits of this renaissance or else they would not have flooded here in their numbers (even during the height of apartheid). Their population exploded due to the increased life expectancy and lowered infant mortality rates, introduced and afforded to them by Western technologies. Then, not so long ago the keys were handed to them. The keys to a veritable Rolls Royce of countries. And in less than thirty years they've managed to seize the engine, steal the wheels and destroy the paint job. It's sad but, unfortunately, Africans seem unable to run countries. Or at least, we have yet to see one successful example.

[@hadasayisrael4905]

@@smalltownjet906 just go home

[@brothacaim]

nobody asked them to come..go home

[@jamtree9746]

We made Rhodesia Great they made Zimbabwe ruins.

[@eddefy22]

Who are you going to give this farming lands too. I mean who can really run a farm, I mean it’s mostly something you’re born into. Clearly this is Zimbabwe waiting to happen, I mean do they even have a transition plan, to give the land competent and experienced farmers?

[@alexlamont4470]

brilliant give it to lazy people that does not know. how to farm lets all sit back and see what happens.

[@miked2721]

Makes me sick.

[@kevint7649]

South Africa is taking the path of Zimbabwe. See you on the way down.

[@stea4ever489]

We were there before...it was an apartheid.

[@davehamlyn3097]

The Transkei which is the most fertile land in the country and has the ability to supply South Africa withh food. The Transkei in the mid 1950s was given to the Xhosas and white farmers booted off by the then National Party Government. This area was thriving very well. Since the late 1950s nothing has happened. The beautiful farmsteads have gone and its previously productive farms are all gone as well. Its now tatally an unproductive area

[@Watcher15115]

What I also question is why the want to expropriate already established farms instead of building new farms in all the fertile unutilised soil in Transkei, Limpopo.

[@casalprincipe8255]

@@Watcher15115 because this is Africa. .. it's our continent and we can do what ever we want. .. get it or back to Europe where you belong

[@casalprincipe8255]

@Mark H because this is not Europe

[@Watcher15115]

@@casalprincipe8255 There is more blacks in Europe (12million)than whites (4million)in Africa. Maybe expropriation of black property in Europe should be the appropriate response then. Europe for Europeans! I bet you are not even from Africa, most proably USA,

[@casalprincipe8255]

@@Watcher15115 please by all means expropriate from those that murdered your people and stole their lands. .. I support your 100%.... pale idiot

[@GD15555]

Elon musk got out in time

[@iarrcsim2323]

The human settlement of Mars will end when the Marsians will expropriate without compensation. His ancestor's DNA is bringing family tradition to new worlds.

[@ericcastle7296]

He used his brains

[@smalltownjet906]

Southern Africa should be grateful for Europeans coming here and creating abundance where there was little more than stone age development. European settlers came and dragged this part of Africa, kicking and screaming, up from the primordial ooze and rather quickly established a society and infrastructure that could parallel any. The native Africans also enjoyed the fruits of this renaissance or else they would not have flooded here in their numbers (even during the height of apartheid). Their population exploded due to the increased life expectancy and lowered infant mortality rates, introduced and afforded to them by Western technologies. Then, not so long ago the keys were handed to them. The keys to a veritable Rolls Royce of countries. And in less than thirty years they've managed to seize the engine, steal the wheels and destroy the paint job. It's sad but, unfortunately, Africans seem unable to run countries. Or at least, we have yet to see one successful example.

[@bloggtalk5085]

who invited them?

[@dwhulk2422]

Whites in africa should be grateful everyday they are not hunted and killed in mass for the past and present war crimes against africans

[@johnroach1101]

Small town jet go and create your utopia in a country in europe goodbye

[@erniewalker5050]

Well thank you for walking in and setting up shop regardless of being invited. Since you think you people made life better, we'll live on the ground while you live in a big beautiful house.

[@BrytTrades]

Its funny how you 'whites' thnk africans needed you to come and "save" us. Go back to Europe if u dont agree with land being given back to natives.

[@buckrogers1800]

Like the old joke: What did Zambia have before candles? Answer: electricity. What did South Africa have before an arid wasteland? Answer: the most prosperous productive high yield agriculture in Africa.

[@sukhmangat5544]

Also Rhodesia

[@carloantonioambrosini]

France wii face the same destiny !!!

[@fitawrarifitness6842]

Look at what happened in Rwanda once they got rid of the foreign meddlers.

[@coolstuff2871]

SHUT UP. Crap. Do you think the blacks whose ancestors were murdered for their land?

[@noone-zm2rl]

Jip the people ther ar asking the white people to gum back to Zimbabwe now that the blacks are hungry what dus that tell u for the future of south africa

[@1pasupaty]

Wtf happened .tell me briefly what happened in Rwanda.

[@dimitrakopoulosroussos5255]

I stay in Limpopo about 5 years for a mining contractor job. As a well-educated Asian engineer, all I had seen before and can tell right now is, without white people conducting the professional work, SA will be fail and become one of the poorest countries in a very short time. I mean no disrespect toward back people, they are somehow friendly, kind and optimistic, they have the amazing talents of art, music and language learning ability, but they know nothing about developing the economy of their country, and the majority of them are lazy and have no discipline. You need white people to control the land as they know how to maximize the value. It may sound hurt and I am truly sorry about that, but it is what I saw.

[@nanisims9368]

@@elbuggo where are your sources please

[@davidsimpson9647]

You try explaining your logic to the white liberal elites who bless these terrorist,corrupt,black governments.

[@matSpector3]

While you lived and worked in Limpopo I'm sure you noticed the majority of your labourers were Africans? Is it fair to call those people lazy if they were responsible for being the workforce of the province? We can also take it that these particular labourers weren't as musically or linguistically talented as you say Africans are, otherwise they wouldn't work in construction for engineering. Maybe you are generalizing a few stereotypes?

[@g.mgomza239]

You are lying you are a boor And you can now work as an employee to direct since we need you not the owner

[@wow360news]

How will they learn if they never get in the game? At some point Africa has to stop being led by Europeans if they ever hope to benefit from living on the richest continent on the planet. I say take the leap

[@MzeeMoja1]

The amount of condescending comments on this post defeats me. People are choosing to go that so called Zimbabwe way because they have had enough of their dignity trampled over by way of having their land stolen such that they are born and die without ever owning anything. Yet over 80% of land is owned by less that 10% of white settlers and their children and grandchildren. Expropriation is long overdue; Mandela, the sellout, should have done this very earlier on. I am sure English speaking countries will want to help you out just give up the stolen land. The English right now don’t care if Brexit makes them poor, in the same way S Africans should not care about going the so called Zimbabwe way, it’s time for everyone to ‘take back control’!

[@philippotgieter1526]

Second zimbabwe

[@joanofarc33]

You should all leave! Because when this doesn’t solve their problems at least they can’t blame you though they will try! Zimbabwe did the same and went from being the bread basket of Africa to one needing food relief. When they were finally rid of Mugabe the first thing they did is ask WHITE farmers from neighboring countries to return to the country with the promise of 100 year leases.

[@v.lacbergs821]

"RAINBOW NATION" HahahahahaahH that's funeeeeeeh

[@jeffteague6051]

If you put lipstick on a pig it's still a pig!

[@ronnieg6358]

Since when has black been a color in the rainbow?

[@ronnieg6358]

@@LK-ho1dg Yes I thought that as soon as I posted. So why is it called the rainbow nation?

[@ronnieg6358]

@@LK-ho1dg This could apply to almost any other country on earth. Nothing special about SA.

[@ronnieg6358]

@@LK-ho1dg As a rainbow nation why can't we call them coloured?

[@MrUmarfarooq17]

what is the respect for property right of a stolen property ?

[@swarleystinson5200]

You cannot "steal" land bro. It was colonized by a state.

[@pmdal]

@@swarleystinson5200 kkkkkkkk

[@Sterben-iw3yx]

93% of Farms given to blacks have Failed.

[@NegSteLucie]

Why do you care? Give us our land.

[@ashleykate5095]

Take your land back Africans.

[@chiztruth21]

South Africa will soon self destruct

[@victormateveke2827]

Land should be returned to the landless black from whom it was stolen

[@Wtornado]

If only expropriation and deporting was this easy in Europe and North America

[@Wtornado]

@Woman Restored just look at the map of Europe and how it has changed the last 800 years . Look at the Crimia with their Russian dictator and how many times that changed hand in 4 centuries .

[@Wtornado]

@Megalodon Unlocked North American Indians were constantly at war against each other ALL FIGHTING FOR TERRITORY way before Europeans came affecting their technology that was still in the stone age . When Europeans came it gave them one more person to fight with their war parties. Men are men as soon as you put a weapon in their stupid hands.

[@Wtornado]

@Woman Restored actually in less then 30 years I think China and Russia will be having a go at Africa and it will change again. It is obvious that the West and Europe want out. Russians have experience in running foreign lands and proxy support just look at Syria. What is happening to the white farmers is normal they are the minority with no political influence and no totalitarian Army to preserve their places there.

[@Wtornado]

@C Cleopatra compared to Middle-Easterners we are docile lambs. They are the experts in human mutilation. China and Russia in fact all humans have the potential to dominate other civilizations from the Romans to the Greeks a d the Ottoman Empire to Genghis Khan . There will always be conquerors and weaker victims.

[@optimusprime7412]

It would be nice to send those fuckers back to what ever cave they crawled out from.

[@esbk]

No thief wants to lose their loot.

[@Jcp108]

esbk kutta the thieves are the black communist SA gov

[@AliClay]

Am sorry but if farmland was originally grabbed from the natives then they have no right to be compensated. We all know how colonialists took land with force during the colonial days. Theft should not rewarded even if it takes 200 years to correct an injustice that happened long time ago.

[@cheetahcheetah3756]

nothing was grabbed from Natives..get that part correct.. there were no natives.. watch Botswana today... same story...blacks flocked to SA when whites came. gold rush etc...

[@zakhelesimelane4096]

@@cheetahcheetah3756 liar

[@g.mgomza239]

First of all they are not african we should remind them

[@kevint7649]

Nelson Mandela is truly gone. Gone from life and now from memory.

[@KundaEstate]

Nelson Mandela. One of the famous cowards ever existed. After atrocity done by White people, he did nothing nothing at all when he had the power to prosper the country.

[@JoseMendoza-sj9zv]

@@KundaEstate which country was Richer, Zimbawe whit Mugabe or SA whit Mandela?

[@g.mgomza239]

Mandela and rainbow nation is the biggest scam in this so called afrika..

[@swirlcrop]

The South Africans deserve to get their land back. The world is so glad that the South Africans are legally getting their land back.

[@pslgreg]

Your leaders have you on a path to hell, and one day you will wish that you had the wealthy, safe, sane and stable, white run SA back.

[@adrianpilbrow]

Don't eat the hand that feeds you...

[@manayakakanataka5256]

nobody is cutting the hand here. the reform is there to give the land ownership to the person who actually work in land whether they are black or white, the white farmers will still own land after the reform. the result will give more land to black people because most of the farmers in south africa are black and cultivatd most of the land in the country, they just didn't have the ownership of the land because of the laws created during the appartheid. but i think it is useless to debate with you, your deep hate for black people is blinding you.

[@mikebim6257]

Give it up you stole it now the rightful owners coming to get it

[@AAde-or3qz]

3,300 Hectares!! Bloody hell mate why don't you just buy the whole country instead! I can't get over the cheekiness of this. Even if you CAN buy the land surely you don't need that much. Imagine if Bill Gates bought a whole country just because he has the money. Mind you, the Duke of Westminster owns most of London including my street so what do I know. Still, no black man owns not even a 10th of that much land in Europe. It just doesn't feel right..

[@southafricannewschannel1988]

They are greedy.

[@snowmcsnow4732]

There is nothing "Rainbow" about South Africa

[@Mercito]

Take land People are starving anyway IF is going to be like Zimbabwe so be it. But dont forget that EU and US starved The People of Zimbabwe with The sanctions so think about when ya speak about Zimbabwe

[@mthemburosemary498]

But botswana did it nobody is hunger

[@danydany6895]

Take the Land Back... From conlonzeris... Enough

[@kylesearle3495]

So these workers comon sense are telling them if they work for farmers, they deserve the right too that land, bs. What business can you go work for and after working years their say now i piece should belong to me. Utter bs

[@starlight3872]

I would leave but pour tons of salt to kill anything from growing.

[@TheOllidee01]

Star anisee please stay!

[@phumlanipiniza4314]

If this does not happen now, it will in the future and u colonist have no say about it. But the government must be smart in doing so.

[@peace6325]

If you don't want to be a farm worker without a home, study via UNISA to become an accountant etc. or encourage your children to. Land is earned mama. Only then is it respected. And yes... it is difficult. Nothing worthwhile is easy... if it is... Zimbabwe etc etc.

[@skywalker7778]

Ag please! This is a non-argument

[@heaty007]

You worked for a white farmer for 50 years and cant afford a house? hmmmm i thought white farmers were feeding the nation.

[@peace6325]

@@heaty007 you see, this is the point. It's about supply and demand. There's nothing wrong with sweeping streets for a living, but you can't expect to buy a new Mercedes at retirement. Due to our poor economy, my profession has collapsed. Now I can't afford healthcare or pension, so I'm getting to work 'till 75 or 'till I drop despite my poor health. I'm not wetting my pants because of a poorly run country and claiming a handout. Why? Because it's my problem, not the taxpayer's. The more handouts in a society, the weeker it becomes economically and morally. YOU are in charge of your ship. Not your so called past, other races etc etc. One should have pride and not steal (especially when something is not a necessity).

[@peace6325]

@Jeanne Dillon what a load of crock. They had the ability to explore. I am not familiar with Indian history, so cannot comment. But the Deutch only found the Khoikhoi here. The Nguni came from the north murdering everything that moved. The forebears of the Boers negotiated for land or settled where land was not occupied. And in some cases, like the blacks, took land by conquest. We can keep riding this merry-go-round into eternity. NOBODY is free of sin... bla bla bla. This is a broken world.

[@seanw1655]

@Jeanne Dillon you are blinded by your hatred of people that did nothing to you personally, you can not even identify one white person that has done anything to you personally. You are pathetic

[@brooklynlecorners1659]

To all negative minds against Africans please don't hate the player jst(blame) hate the game started by your forefathers.. thank you.

[@gmr4life884]

The players have every opportunity to find a better way instead of state enforced racism. Not even concealed, but out in the open for all to see.

[@glenncurley680]

This is the same thing that happened in North America!

[@toyedavies]

Get 20m and GO. Who DID you buy land from.

[@rthare1]

Land expropriation without corruption can work.

[@relacionar111]

Corruption is when whites get lands and money while native people don¡t get it.

[@yoerivanwassenhove673]

Which countries are willing to give us South Africans visa's to bring our skills to their countries ?

[@careyparker2673]

Sanctions against South Africa? Ever been tried before?

[@peppefrasca5179]

Sanctions are forbidden LOL

[@g.mgomza239]

Sanctions from where the USA?

[@reggiewilliams4246]

The native Americans need to do the same thing in the USA

[@southafricannewschannel1988]

EXACTLY!

[@louisvermeulen6164]

The natives Americans are too few. South Africa is quite unique in the fact that the minorities in this country are the ones that are keeping the country afloat, not the black majority. Whites only consist of 8% of the South African population, yet they see us as the treat, how pathetic can you be. (There are also other minority groups that contribute hugely to South Africa's economy, not only the whites)

[@Johanjg2]

GIVE IT ALL TO THEM!!! But along with that also stop sending monatary- and food aid. Watch them starve within 10 years.

[@carpathian677]

we wuz kangs....

[@geraldnkanyimuo7568]

n sheeit

[@jameslewis1605]

Just salt the Earth on your way out .

[@nthperson]

The moral issue involved is that every person has an equal birthright in the planet. Yet, (mostly by force of arms) we have carved the planet into nation-states and carved the nation-states into estates for individuals and private entities to control. Controlling any part of the planet is a privilege, demanding compensation be paid into a fund to be used to pay for public goods and services and to distribute a citizens dividend to all. The amount of this charge must equate to the potential annual rental value of whatever parcel or tract of land is controlled. This approach to “land reform” will not correct all of the injustice of the past, but it will create a better present and a far more just future for all.

[@dragosbelar]

South Africa seems to be going to fall apart.

[@mysterieuseenvoyee2432]

When colonizers were killing the tribes .It was ok .hen .But now when Natives Africans reclaimed their lands it is not right.Oh.I see.Reverse of the medal.

[@javibob86]

I guess this is the end of RSA...

[@southafricannewschannel1988]

South Africa ended in 1652 when white settlers arrived here.

[@SD_M9]

End of white arrogance.*

[@peacemathebula3597]

you the one who's added we won't fail on this one we served without them if they will to go the must must people are educated now they have knowledge on to deal with a farms if the wanna go they must Goo anytime any day

[@onaleronasrandomthoughts7793]

This guy has a PRIVATE HUNTING reserve while the people of that country are surviving, living in poverty. Is it fair?

[@saamychristen]

If the State wants to buy a farm within a week without having a competitor it should offer a price that is at least the price paid on the market. In the case mentioned it would be at least 200 Million Rand, not their fantasy price of 20 Million. To me both the ANC mainly consists of socialists obsessed with the land questions already discussed by Marx. All that has been proven wrong, unproductive and inefficient decades ago. The governance of the ANC for nearly 25 years is as well not a story of excellence and pure success. To my eyes neither the ANC nor their radical relatives from the EFF are in the near of being capable of that task.

[@LindaSibeko-j2v]

The Relity is we want our land back qha

[@nevilleokumu7885]

Expropriation is all about addressing historical injustices meted out to the indigenous people. sometimes doing the right thing (Expropriation) is painful

[@1895jk]

And ignoring socio- economic consequences....

[@nevilleokumu7885]

@@1895jk you are talking to people who are already suffering socio-economically due to the historical land injustice. ANC has a choice expropriate without compensation or land in the opposition in the coming election cycle.

[@xxxx-fu3jm]

Zimbabwe didn't fair too well when getting rid of the farmers. Mass starvation and economic collapse

[@xxxx-fu3jm]

Without white colonization the African people would still be hunting with Spears and living in huts. Everything you see and touch was invented by a white man.

[@nevilleokumu7885]

@@xxxx-fu3jm look at it this way, China and Japan were never colonized are they still hunting with spears? what about Ethiopia? Oh I see they are hunting and gathering with spears I suppose.

[@ndoukouman]

25 years of karmic cycle... And it’s not getting better... The guptas are next watch..

[@julianswanson751]

Any contract to land in South Africa by the queen of England has no validity and English and danish had no rights to steal the land in the first place. If the boers and Afrikaner want to stay they need to show an ability to share and profit together with the natives. Whites have not done this in South Africa. 90% ownership of land by colonizers on the colonizer’s terms is not even close to fair ownership especially as natives account for 80% of SA population

[@sibzism]

🙌🏾❤ thanks for understanding dude 🙏🏾

[@007mia7]

Wow, it’s naturally gorgeous in S Africa 😍 Just curious...they don’t have any other unused land? Do they have imminent domain laws for development like America?

[@the-selfish-meme7585]

Reap - Sow..... I mean that's what farmers do right?

[@CoolPapaCash]

Well done!

[@southafricannewschannel1988]

No, that's not what they did. They put bullets on our fathers skulls and took the land.

[@the-selfish-meme7585]

@@southafricannewschannel1988 Which side are you on? I cannot tell by your comment.

[@hansstrik4704]

I think the situation is worser then under the Apartheid, round 1900 they suffered and were murdered also 26370 woman’s and children because diamants were found

[@Jacob4277]

European people (those of European origination) are not entitled to any land they lived on in Europe before the formation of formalized land ownership, so why are African people (those of African origination) entitled to land that they lived on before the formation of formalized legal systems of land ownership? In that case the "go back to Europe" sentiment falls flat.

[@thebichocr7659]

so that means more refuges can move to Europe

[@swarleystinson5200]

This is the only comment that makes sense. How can the ANC ever be sure that the land they are giving away wasn't illegally taken by the tribes living on it even before apartheid? You have to start from a status quo and can't keep going with revanchism.

[@g.mgomza239]

African people owned land before white people existed

[@Eddyke]

@@swarleystinson5200 Europeans in Africa...Africans in Africa...that's different

[@phumlanipiniza4314]

If this does not happen now, it will in the future and u colonist have no say about it. But the government must be smart in doing so.

[@superbug1977]

Examine what happened in Zimbabwe. It will be the fate of South Africa.

[@judah7o7]

Give caesar what belongs to ceaser jesus said ...........................give the land back to the blackman unconditionally

[@hoodat829]

ceasar said it not jesus you asswipe

[@grobinson3986]

Now you call for respect property rights?? Comical, no take back what was taken then we will talk about property rights.

[@justbadluck1681]

If this is theirs,im saying this wrong ,why not use native language,your native tongue?go backwards?

[@d-d5193]

No compensation, they have to give the land for the landowners and leave with their guilt of choice of their ancestors inhumane shameful legacy.

[@rraumyz588]

Yes

[@granthornin3836]

They won't be so fat and smiling when the food fails.

[@mustikstyles9022]

All lands must be own by the state and be allocated to any South African who wants to use it for the benefit for the country.

[@nonozulu]

That's what the government is doing!!!!

[@spearfisherman308]

Yet that caused starvation in Zimbabwe

[@basedsigma5634]

The writing was on the wall 20 years ago. This is no suprise. Ignore at your own peril. It will go down just like zimbabwe, with the same result.

[@thekgi1349]

200 million for stolen land you must be crazy. Government must only compensate the land you bought but land that was stolen from a community - you must get zero - actually you must be jailed. When you stole this land you killed and did not pay.

[@limekaltenbrunn8003]

They only claimed the land was previously owned. The man did not kill anyone or steal the land. He invested in a land that he would only find out later that people were claiming it to be theirs.

[@christoffdebeer1233]

Lol that means the land doesnt even belong to the blacks. It belongs to the Khoi and San....so we whites and you blacks gonna rot in jail together it seems lol

[@NhlanhlaMathe]

Hilarious when you racists try to separate blacks from other blacks. thats not gonna work anymore.@@christoffdebeer1233

[@christoffdebeer1233]

@@NhlanhlaMathe the only racist here is you lol and khoi and san isnt black they are seen as their own culture. Hahaha your so smart

[@NhlanhlaMathe]

Zulus and Sothos are their own cultures yet all African. San people are Africans, your European tricks of divide and conquer are now dead. sorry@@christoffdebeer1233

[@bartschwartz7217]

Back to head hunting and pitching.they will kill each other by trivial issues

[@godfreythaele6298]

Why do you lie? where do you get your figures that the people are 50/50 regarding LEWC? its more like 75/25 and majority is for LEWC

[@adriaanvandermerwe4252]

There are 18 million black rural South Africans who live on 17 million hectares of black tribal land, which means that there are more black South Africans living on rural land than the total white population of South Africa put together. All black South Africans have land, but they are not allowed to own it because of the tribal land system. Except for the Zulus, all black tribal land is owned by government. So what is the point of farmland expropriation - All that it will do is put more and more farmland in the hands of government - Government does not give title to the land to the black people. No, government only leases it to black people, which is really nothing but the nationalization of farmland and at the end of the day we still have not resolved the land question, just as you have in Zimbabwe? So, the whole land expropriation is just a farce. People don't need land - People need jobs and here the government has been very successful at expropriating jobs from the whites through a process called affirmative action.

[@kiraborobert3767]

how did your great grand fathers compensate Africans when they displaced them from there land? And how do you intend to compensate Africans who have been in settlements after grabbing there land? to you it is fair for indigenous Africans to own 9 percent of the land? it's wrong to take back what belongs to them? go go EFF I just wonder those Africans who don't support expropriation without compensation

[@wendyferguson4829]

it was never their land the blacks came from NORTH AFRICA NOT SOUTH AFRICA THE ONLY INDIGENOUS PEOPLE ARE THE KHOI SAN, SO LEARN YOUR FACTS IRNORAMUS!

[@kiraborobert3767]

Wendy Ferguson let's assume it's true they came from north Africa, still they are africans. for your case you still have roots your European countries. what I don't understand why do whites want to be masters of others. more so through oppressions. up to now you still protect what you gain through blood shed and you justify your actions. you mean all that vast land was only inhabited by on two tribes?

[@langalakheshongwe5433]

@@zebinmarais4697.. What u r talking about is irrelevant.... We talking bout the land that was expropriated by the white south african govt. That is the land that must b returned.. These things of anglo boer war and mfecane wars n all that, has no clear records.. The land expropriated as from the late 1800... Thats what shud b fixed

[@kiraborobert3767]

Zebin Marais your an embarr

[@kiraborobert3767]

Zebin Marais so Africa is a continent for Europeans? your a real greedy European whose reasoning is to consume the whole world, but sorry for your greed south Africans must take back what belonged to them be it the way you acquired it, then that would be the better solution. your a real European who whose driven by greed

[@nathimthembu1199]

Property rights in Europe old milk... We are taking our land.