Extreme Bull Commander MINI In-Depth REVIEW!!

Is the MINI the BEST 16 inch Electric Unicycle on the Market?
Higher voltage, more powerful motor, a larger battery, a full metal casing and a "Veteran like" suspension design; the Commander Mini has the spec line to be a contender for the best 16 inch suspension EUC on the market. But can it deliver on everything begode/ Extreme bull promises? This week, I ride and review the Commander Mini and see if it can give the Veteran Patton some real competition!!
Episode 132- Begode Commander mini review
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[@priceburnett]

What phone wrist holder do you use? Thinking about getting one.

[@jaysons8050]

Your video production is alway great. There's lots of informative EUC channels out there, but I usually can't stick around for more than 2 mins. However, your channel along with others like Wrong Way have made it easy to watch

[@willlawson6126]

I agree. Hsiang and Wrong Way! both are probably the best 2 channels.

[@jakl]

I'm holding out for the InMotion Adventure v14. I'm not going to preorder it, but just patiently waiting for a complete comparison among all suspension 16in wheels this year. Adventure/Patton/Extreme/Mini

[@andiman45]

It surprises me every time you have a new video that your are still with us....You are a martyr for the EUC cause. Great vid as always

[@SCasie]

Got mine this week from alienrides with the street tire and I am a 80/20 street to trails rider. As a high speed street rider, the conservative and polished approach to this wheel is the reason I went with it. Very satisfied with my choice. The suspension is solid and for a street wheel, it is amazing

[@willlawson6126]

Out of curiosity, what wheel or wheels were you riding prior. The Commander Mini has been the one I want, but this review has menthinking wait for firmware updates, or possibly go Begode Extreme.

[@JL-ws1gi]

​@willlawson6126 I'm curious about the same. I got a T4 and shopping around again, v14 tho 😮

[@SCasie]

​@@willlawson6126I'm coming from a Begode RS HS, mostly. I've also owned a 16x, v11, and v12

[@RogueTravel]

@@JL-ws1giI’m curious about the InMotion Adventure as well. On the Patton and loving it. T4 looks nice and light on the trails, haven’t ridden it though

[@updlate4756]

EUCDeals does come with a warranty. 6 months battery, 12 months for other parts. The difference is that the parts will be shipped to you, rather than you shipping the wheel to the store and having them do the labor.

[@mdk42o74]

Saving up for the extreme euc can't wait to see your review on the extreme

[@MitchG]

6:00 you said the mini doesnt have speakers.... completely false. It does have speakers and they sounds great on mine. How did you review a wheel and not hear the speakers turn on every time you powered the wheel on?

[@leonardomelo8378]

thats a beeper not a speaker

[@MitchG]

@@leonardomelo8378 wrong. The wheel beeps and then makes a sound from the Bluetooth speakers every time it turns on. I own this wheel

[@leonardomelo8378]

@@MitchG but it can be used as speaker to hear music? v11 also "got a speaker" but cannot play music (software limitation prob)

[@MitchG]

@@leonardomelo8378 yes the commander mini can play music from your phone

[@Stefonewheel]

Omg I think I just found the board for me. Thanks a lot for this video brother

[@derrickvinci]

The review I’ve been waiting for 🤝

[@CopperSteed]

Best North American EUC reviewer? I think so. I specify NA bc Adam over at Wrong Way has Europe on lock. Keep up the great reviews! You really got me considering the CMini before the V14 even arrives. It really is a mad bull.

[@EUCXR]

Great video production as always

[@aammdd706]

I got a patton and am very happy with it. but this looks like a sick wheel too, and no doubt a firmware update will let it tap more low end torque. I don't think you can go wrong with either of these options, boils down more to personal preference. Really interested to see you and the other reviewers get your hands on the extreme.

[@SaiyanEuc]

I love the way this wheel looks! Not super chunky but big enough for some business.

[@EverlastingEclipses]

EUC LIFE 4 LIFE!

[@patrickmckowen2999]

As usual great review👍

[@euc-mercielago]

Love the Inspector gadget music lol

[@TroyArn]

you're the man. thumbs up.

[@arevee9429]

I wonder if the "peppiness" would improve if the pedals were moved to the highest position? That might give the rider better leverage for acceleration.

[@matthewearl9824]

I was going to get this over the Patton. Then the Extreme was announced. I just ordered the Extreme.

[@revolutionaries007]

@hsiang the discount places offer warranty and will get you the parts (help) .... you have to be able to put the replacement on yourself is all..

[@nunbeam]

In one video you said pursuing top speed was like "going 50 with a canonball between your legs", and ever since I've called electric unicycles "Cannonballs." Still feels apt, especially as the smaller ones get faster.

[@bravedave90]

Hey Hsiang, Do you plan on reviewing the commander mini GT with 20 inch tire anytime soon? And, do you have any preliminary thoughts on this wheel? I'm really curious about this wheel at 20inches for ultimate stability at speed IMHO. But, curious to the possible adverse trade-offs going up from a 16inch tire. Thanks again

[@rayrous8229]

I actually like the cheap fender/mudguard. It's supposed to be light.

[@4nlimited3dition_4n3d]

It could be light and not be cheap gabage at the same time though.

[@j_a_a]

@@4nlimited3dition_4n3d the benefit is that in an accident it just flexes out of the way instead of breaking.

[@4nlimited3dition_4n3d]

@@j_a_a Except this is a Begode, lol. It will explode into pieces.

[@Michaelajacksonfilms]

Thank you, also what focal length do you shoot with?

[@PrimoHS]

Love my Mini 💪🏼🛞

[@michaelgatti3948]

No mention of your impressions on the suspension or how the suspension compares with other wheels? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@updlate4756]

Didn't even ride down any steps! :-D

[@Richexperience1]

Yep totally left that out.

[@OWGAC]

it was the stiffest suspension I ever rode! it was why I didn't take it down stairs. It would never bottom out but.. you aren't going to get a lot of help from it either.

[@Platypus-Dreams]

That's what the comment section is for 😅

[@Nr8k]

They paid him not to maybe

[@jashton8710]

I am attracted to everything about this wheel except for the price.

[@pumpkin00001]

How is the waterproofing of this wheel. I get 5 months of snow where i live and like to ride in snow😂

[@ElectricUnicycles]

Interesting, my Mini has speakers 🙂 When in doubt with a new wheel, use your phone to detected Bluetooth speakers. Waterproofing is superb. Confused why you wouldn't recommend riding it in rain 🤔

[@user-xz7gt8yw9s]

I bought the mini with the knobby wheels. I live in Hawaii and our roads suck. Just the regular roads might as well be considered of roading

[@ryangross5446]

How have you enjoyed the Mini? Im really thinking about getting the 50s version as my next wheel

[@TheSkyHive]

I am about to get my first EUC, I have decided on the Begode Extreme from E-Wheels! Used the link!

[@grb1969]

Now, order a lighter wheel to learn on and put the Extreme in the closet for a few months while you abuse, drop, scrape and grow on a more appropriate learning wheel. The worst thing about reviews of advanced wheels is that they don’t tell you (every fucking time) that these wheels are difficult to learn on and will hurt severely after you fall and it hits your Achilles’ tendon. Everyone gets injured multiple times while learning, and learning on a heavy/powerful wheel is statistically a bad decision. The 16x or V12ht are intermediate level wheels that are good learning machines. The bonus is that you’ll always have a spare wheel to loan to friends or use while repairing your other wheels. Almost everyone who has an advanced wheel also has several intermediate wheels that they are unlikely to dispose of unless upgrading their fleet to more nuanced uses. Getting the latest/greatest wheel (as your first) is almost always regretted by the consumer. Ask your local riders group for advice, those honest with themselves will agree… those who support high performance wheels being used as learning platforms are less trustworthy, which you can discover for yourself. I have multiple top quality mountain bikes that I would never even consider loaning to a friend who is less experienced, not because I care about the bikes but because I wouldn’t screw over a friend whose only mistake is naivety. This is true for every skilled sports equipment that I have ever experienced, and it’s even more so for EUCs. A good used mTen3, v10f or 14d can be found for under $1k (if patient). If I were CEO of one of these EUC companies, I’d limit the speed, power, and number of falls/day allotted through algorithmic restrictions that would lock out usage until the rider was skilled enough to make better decisions for themselves. Until then, I recommend full gear and learning on grass or Astroturf, not only for your physical health but also so you can resell the wheel when the next irresistible option comes to the market. Take all the hype with a grain of salt and listen to those people who don’t have a financial interest in selling you an inappropriate option. Please consider that Reviewers, Entertainers, Resellers and Manufacturers are NOT your friends… treat their advice with suspicion until proven otherwise. There are several good videos by honest people who have made this same mistake and almost all who have posted would have made different decisions after experiencing the trauma, pain and loss of wheel-value of having learned on an inappropriately advanced EUC. Almost no one regrets learning to ride after the initial learning process, so if you don’t permanently injure yourself, welcome to the club.

[@TheSkyHive]

What a wonderful, thoughtful reply. I live in a place in West Virginia....our population is less than 1000, so finding a used wheel nearby is a no go....I have already tried. I weight about 265-270 and I am 6'1-ish and athletic.....I was afraid that the cheaper wheels wouldn't be able to move me around. The Begode T4 is rated for 300 pounds and the InMotion V12HT only 265. I am afraid of the wheels not having enough power to get me out of danger if needed. Sadly my budget doesn't allow me to buy multiple wheels, I suppose I could learn on a cheaper wheel and then sell to someone local so I could make a riding buddy. Community, should I get the Begode T4 or the InMotion v12? I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THOROUGH RESPONSE!@@grb1969

[@oueuc2]

I second this. I started with V12Ht, and My God, the pain! I could only ride/practice weekends, cause after that, my legs were too sore, beat up (solid bruises from knee down), and tired from the weekends. After 3 weeks I got a used Ninebot A1 for $250 on ebay. 25lbs. Rode it 1 day, and could automatically ride my V12 after that. After 4 weeks, I finally took it on the road, paved, and dirt. Rode for 10 miles that day! I wish I got the Ninebot to learn on first. But I'm 50 years old too, short, and with bad knees. I also got the euc world app. My V12 sounds like a Fatboy Harley, lol

[@ionflow1073]

....I forgot to mention that I wouldn't trade that first experience with my 16X for anything in the world.

[@maneeoocho350]

How does this keep up with the lynx in power?

[@InsanitiesBrother]

Extreme will be my next wheel most likely

[@Acoustictears]

Begode Extreme or Extreme Bull?

[@TheDownloader86]

Extreme for sure :-)

[@DataGhostGhostware]

Good review for the most, some crappy comments on this review from a few others, a few inaccuracies but overall good, thanks for what you do, it makes it easy for us to pick out wheels brother, ignore the haters and keep bumping this content out, the speed review numbers were off at kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKrIq2ulfsdmoNE but the video was good man, I am looking forward to testing one of these out! Thank you again. Cheers from Alberta!

[@Baker_FPV]

This wheel slaps

[@wutruriding1355]

The most significant and maybe only difference between the Begode and EB line of wheels is the different suspension setup they offer. Most everything else, quality, firmware, voltage,etc., are mostly the same. Another great Hsiang review!

[@grb1969]

💯

[@callmelive]

喜歡看你的視頻，有你獨特的觀點和表達方式，看你有戴機械腳式的護膝，最近也在考慮買膝蓋護具，想請教跟一般膝蓋護具，它更好的地方在哪裡？支撐性嗎？

[@arevee9429]

And it was only 1 knee brace, not 2.

[@grb1969]

Knee braces are superior to pads in that they help prevent ACL injuries, which is caused by unrestrained twisting on the knee joints. The price is the reason why most people don’t use braces but they are worthwhile if you can afford them. I have both types and prefer the Leatt Dual-Axis when riding casually but use my Asterisk braces when appropriate.

[@teddy_123.]

Nice

[@EgemenKayalidere]

Hey, I have mini and I am 95 kg. I adjust the suspension wheels both side to right forward. But when it is 45km/h I am on it, I get wobbles. Do you have any suggestion not to get wobble ? I was using v11 before and while it even 55km/h I was not wobbling. Thanks.

[@alexaboarg2942]

Any answer yet? I'm thinking about making the same change. Are you happy?

[@Farmhand2k]

Those pads seem freakin cool. Just need to be stronger...

[@beaudanner]

I really wanted to love the Mini. The specs (on paper) are superior to the Patton and it's significantly less expensive. But the reviews don't lie and it seems that the Patton might be the better long-term choice. I'll give it 6 weeks and see if the Mini gets a firmware update If you've ridden both feel free to reply! I'm not in to high speed and prefer torque (brakeability), build quality, and manuverabilty. I have a 16x and although I love it I want to be able to stop faster on these NYC streets and have the suspension to deal with the rough roads.

[@ragon747]

I notice that in some point of the video you are using just one shin guard 😂

[@OWGAC]

My right knee is worst, so I sometime only wear my right knee brace!

[@mcdavis3406]

It does have speakers. I dont know y yours doesnt

[@dustinhankins2153]

Given that the mini has higher output than the Patton, I’m anticipating a firmware update to unleash its full potential.

[@BunnyslippersEUC]

Higher output on paper. Efficiency is very difficult to quantify. On paper, even my S22 should perform better than my Patton. The S22 doesn't even come close.

[@kingcreole9815]

ROLL THE INTRO !!!!!!

[@agustinustedjo4490]

OK Bro Hsiang....Veteran Patton Or Commander Mini ?

[@eBoard3R]

⚡👀⚡

[@macswanton9622]

Still waiting for out-takes and random public interactions Stay vertical, my friend!

[@firstlast9813]

I'm sorry... Did you say FIFTY?! I have a Master that goes 56 mph, but it feels sketchy at 51mph. That thing can hold pace and be smaller wheel.

[@OWGAC]

Speed above 40 feels sketchy on this wheel, an 18 incher will still be more stable and confident inspiring if you want to reach 50mph

[@ratmanmurray7137]

What range?

[@esk8unity]

i know right. idk why lots of reviewers neverrrrr do a legit, full range test. we always do

[@familytvbox5218]

I think that you installed those side pads wrong.

[@andyl2991]

it does have speakers 🤷

[@batmanoneuc835]

Patton 4 lyf

[@themystx2]

No thanks, sticking with the master. Get slightly more speed, 10-12 lbs lighter, and with the new v2 linkages the suspension is no slouch either. It’s amazing how people want a heavier, slower less stable wheel because it’s the latest and greatest when last years wheel is still better from a performance/weight standpoint.

[@TheThunderwars]

I still ride the master, and I still find it absolutely amazing. If you are regularly going 70 kph+ for long stretch, there is nothing like it...

[@dennisbruce7471]

If you don't mind doing 50 rather than 55, and if you want all metal durable build like tank rather than plastic with an inferior suspension and exposed mother board in a crash, the Mini will begin to make since.

[@LegitSpeedDesigns]

Sorry man..I generally love your reviews and a huge supporter. But I'm not sure how you can call this one a "In-Depth" review. You mistakenly state it does not have bluetooth speakers without verify it on the spec sheet. You didn't test it at all at the higher pedal hanger setting and your max speed was below what others have clearly documented on KZbin.

[@willlawson6126]

Slightly disappointed in this review. Out of all the new wheels, the Commander Mini was the one I had my eyes on. Seems like it may be lacking in the area I was hoping it would excel. I've only ridden amd fully experienced the HS and HT variants of the RS19. My hopes were an RS19-esque wheel with suspension. Punchy, nimble, and a great street wheel. I'm glad to know the Mini is street focused as I had assumed.....looks like the answer for me my end up the Begode Extreme with a street tire.

[@LegitSpeedDesigns]

Check out the Ride One review

[@kaygee1623]

Thanks for your video, you wasted my time again. It's a nice choice for us as Riders, Patton, Commander Mini, T4 or the Begode Extreme, Choose your poison. All good wheels with their pros and cons.

[@grahamkearnon6682]

Its a Gotway-Begode item, some people never learn!

[@ProGamingProphecy]

This one is slow, I can't wait to go 150MPH 😂

[@grb1969]

With the current designs, all wheels are unstable over 45-50 mph and require high skill levels to even approach these speeds. Better technology is needed to safely ride over 55mph, mainly due to the gyroscopic forces of the motor. An 150mph wheel is possible with current technology but the scale of the market will not yet support the cost. I believe that within 10 years we should see a 100+ mph wheel that is safer than today’s equipment. The eventual market for EUCs will exceed that of cars and bicycles combined and should only be exceeded by the market for clothing, food or shelter, which is why I take the request for an 150mph wheel seriously… that said, wheels that safely travel in excess of 180mph are unlikely to be seen as mass-market consumables for the foreseeable future, even though theoretically possible. The EUC has the potential to outperform all other vehicles currently available but they will have to radically advance the design for this to become realized. I’d have to do some major calculations but today’s tech could safely reach 70mph if (and only if) the total weight were reduced by half and the power was doubled. This is the reason why manufacturers are now focused on bringing smaller high-performance wheels to market… but it’ll probably be a long/slow evolution to get to 70mph. A radical design revolution is necessary to exceed the current limits. {I’ve described this tech elsewhere but I estimate that costs will triple for a doubling of speed at similar safety margins… so it’s still much cheaper than a comparable preforming automobile, and therefore viable.} FYI, the data collected from usage indicates that the current average speed of EUCs is 17mph… so the market has a long way to go before finally making cars and motorcycles obsolete, which is eventually inevitable, imho.

[@donscott6431]

Can’t watch the rest

[@skampster]

You’ll regret wearing that particular helmet one day.

[@jontaba80]

I hope you’re wrong for his sake

[@skampster]

@@jontaba80 time will tell.

[@MrRich777]

Are you the gear police? Are you his dad? He's been wearing that helmet for years and is obviously happy with it. Why don't you mind your own business and let him be.

[@skampster]

@@MrRich777 because he’s promoting it. I don’t care what he does in his own time, but he’s promoting unsafe gear the people who might not know any better. Bet you didn’t think about that hey….

[@TaiLegend]

@@skampstermaybe you should save this comment for the TSG Helmet spammers. That helmet is unsafe for the speeds done on EUC and it’s one of the most popular picks…

[@tomnoyb8301]

"Waiting?" This author is waiting for more range than Sherman, suspension rated to 320lbs and hopefully US tax-credit certification. Willing to pay $8-$10k for such a wheel, as will tens-of-thousands of others who will beat a path to buy one. Such a wheel will increase EUC market-size ten-fold. Remember what moving up to 100lb wheel did to market-size? Few anticipated that growth either.

[@VECTOR_Coasters]

great video! this wheel is completely useless in my opinion. got a few hundred dollars more to spend? get the patton or extreme as both have better battery safety, build quality, and performance. don't have the extra money? the t4 would save you a bunch of money while being just as good and the s19 has better battery safety and build quality than this wheel for the same price so i don't see a reason to get it

[@updlate4756]

Patton is $800 (35%) more from eWheels and $900 (40%) more from eevees versus the Mini's EUCDeals price, although that is with the regular store warranty versus the do-it-yourself parts warranty. Begode Extreme is the same price, but it seems to be meant more as an offroad wheel and there are some complaints about the traction of its tire on street. It's also the difference between a rear mounted air shock and a side mounted oil shock. We'll see how they compare once the reviews are all in.

[@updlate4756]

Patton's battery is also 180 Wh smaller. Both wheels are different enough where I think the buyer can weigh the pros and cons of each.

[@VECTOR_Coasters]

@@updlate4756 put a street tire on a begode extreme and it will be better than the mini in every way. at least that’s what it looks like to me

[@grb1969]

Good assessment, as always. 👍

[@donscott6431]

Do U even KNOW what a red-headed stepchild really IS?? I was adopted by such LOVING parents at such an early age that certain pictures are indelibly imprinted on my mind, ( the bottom of a telephone pole with a tin garbage can beside it, and sounds of cars going by ). Very bright white and a SMALL sensation of pain. English terms may introduce a comically-generated “vision”, but let’s all be careful. While writing this, I completely disregarded whatever you were spewing. Not un-subscribing.. but WE ARE WATCHING YOU.

[@mattmatt591]

I have not outgrown my big wheel Either. The days of young....!

[@phillipihakaradansey2194]

I would still prefer the Begode extreme

[@mopia]

50 mph is too slow its basically an ebike. need a wheel that can hold 70mph for freeways speeds and commutes. otherwise these are just dumb nerd toys

[@aammdd706]

ebikes are generally limited to 28mph, EUCs blow them out of the water in terms of performance. Get a motorcycle if you want to ride 70+

[@KhairulKlang]

I bet you can jump off from 50Mph running wheel and landed on your feet with a smile since that speed is a "toys" for you.

[@aammdd706]

@@KhairulKlang you can tell this guy doesn't ride lol. Even like 30mph on a one wheeled device held between your legs isn't "fun," it's like nothing you've ever experienced before. If you're hitting 50, that's not a toy that's a way of life for you hahah