EXTREME Macro Photography with 35mm Film

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@Huginn87OG 4 ай бұрын

A easier way to do the math is to just to divide the bellows extention mm & macro lens mm, which will give you the total amount of compensation to change. So 155 ÷ 50 = 3.1, so you change the shutter speed by 3 stops.

@simsanutiy 4 ай бұрын

That slide accessory at 12:50 combined with a digital camera would make a great digitizing setup, I imagine

@danielisenberg9434 4 ай бұрын

This is probably the first video on KZbin doing an allround intro to analog macro photography. About one year ago I got myself some Canon Bellows and experimented around with it. But back then I could barely find any information about it, especially concerning exposure compensation. Good job!

@adzbasslines268 4 ай бұрын

This has to be the best film channel; a frank, simple and no nonsense approach to sharing practical knowledge. I ended up choosing the Mamiya RB67 Pro S camera and a Sekor C 140mm Macro lens with two extension tubes to achieve a similar thing. It's great that the RB67 already has a built in bellows extension used in conjunction with the lens floating ring.

@fricki1997 4 ай бұрын

Softness not only occurs from movement - aperture and depth of field are the greatest enemies of high magnification macro work. Because the bellows factor not only affects the exposure time, but also the effective aperture, which means diffraction kicks in much sooner. At the same time you have an incredibly thin depth of field meaning you'd want to stop down the aperture but that would invite even more diffraction. With a compensation factor of 9.6, I believe you have to multiply your set working aperture also by 9.6 to get the effective aperture, this would be F/38 if the lens was set to F/4, way into diffraction territory on the 35mm format. At F/8, effective aperture would be about F/76 which yields an airy disk of 0.1mm! At F/11, it even is 0.14mm, that's why you should be very careful about selecting small apertures in high magnification work.

@Ralph-r2i 4 ай бұрын

Perfect start to the weekend… love the match shots ,, amazing…. Plus ya have a nice vhs collection

@RockPaperMario 4 ай бұрын

Love this video. By chance when I got my Topcon RE Super from my partner's grandmother it came with a macro bellows and lens which had been used for creating negative copies of slides for printing originally. And thankfully the manuals were all intact including great guidelines on how to actually use and compensate correctly. Opened up a whole new range of possibilities for me and I now adore macro photography. Thank you for bringing this to a whole host of new people including the knowledge of how to execute accurately.

@yellowcrescent 4 ай бұрын

Pretty cool. I have a Minolta SR extension bellows that I've been trying to figure out how to cobble onto my Panasonic S5 for doing Disc Film digitization (most likely need to design and print my own adapters). The extension tubes for RZ67 are pretty nice (i got a pair brand new in box last year)-- I always seem to pick the wrong tube combination and have to change, but in combination with the 65mm and 50mm RZ lenses, you can get a 2x magnification on 6x7 (with the lens literally on top of your subject.. lol).

@flyingo 4 ай бұрын

Love me some macro. Years ago I had fun making “mystery macro” shots then asking friends to guess the subjects. The guesses were wildly varied.

@OlidoesFoto 4 ай бұрын

3:49 This probably isnt ideal, but what I do for my Exakta, is I just put on the wlf, set up my subjet in direct sunlight, then once I am all focused, I just place the photosenor of my weston to the groundglass and only let the light coming from my groundglass to the sensor by covering the gaps with my hands. Fiddly, but I've got some good results through that method. Then again, it could just be a fluke, haha

@DethronerX 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tips and heads up for exposure compensation. I do have an SLR with bellows setup and I needed a video like this before I tried it out.

@JakesPhoto_ 4 ай бұрын

I might have to pick up the nikon bellows sometime sounds like it would make for a fun project! Great Video!

@dustysprockets1505 4 ай бұрын

Interesting and helpful! When I had a Rollei SL66 I had a lot of fun using it for super macro on 6x6. Great video!

@fricki1997 4 ай бұрын

I've got that camera. Haven't used it much for macro so far, but it seems incredibly versatile with the native reverse lens mounting plus built-in lens tilt.

@andyvan5692 4 ай бұрын

there was an easy way to do the bellows factor, Sinar used a target and a ruler, you measure the target through the ground glass, aka both ruler and target in the viewfinder!, this gives compensation exactly, in stops, or in mm, you chose, as both where on the ruler.

@oldmantaiter 4 ай бұрын

Love the record sleeve macro shots

@SenpaiSkyy 4 ай бұрын

Using the camera TTL light meter can have you skip the ruler. Also you can use the self-timer on your camera to activate mirror lockup to remove mirror shake. I use EL-Nikkor lenses on a set of m42 Asahi Pentax bellows with both my EF SLRs and DSLRs. Great Video btw so nice seeing other people showing off macro film photography.

@Xisbrezatsgzormd 4 ай бұрын

For macro at best he needs a camera like Yashica TL-Electro X where you can fix the mirror since this camera was designed to be screwed into microscopes 😅 Or probably telescopes too, it has universal M42 mount too

@SenpaiSkyy 4 ай бұрын

@@Xisbrezatsgzormd ⁠That works too. Most cameras do a mirror lockup when you use the self timer. But cameras with built in mirror lockup options are great too. M42 is really nice to adapt to any flange.

@Xisbrezatsgzormd 4 ай бұрын

@@SenpaiSkyy my Minolta X-700 and Canon ae-1 don’t do that 🥲 but thankfully I’m not using that function

@SenpaiSkyy 4 ай бұрын

@@Xisbrezatsgzormd Lol just checked my AE-1 you are right. I guess it’s a Yashica feature. My FX-3 super 2000 is what I use on my bellows. I just assume they all did.

@Xisbrezatsgzormd 4 ай бұрын

@@SenpaiSkyy I think it’s because they were always producing cameras on two markets: for people and medicine one. But in general I loved it, true Japanese quality, such a good cameras

@MarcoRoepers 4 ай бұрын

Very interesting. One of the things I was thinking about was buying extension tubes for my Canon FTb. I think I will go search for it now again.

@thatrandomguy-k3t 4 ай бұрын

Very nice with format like that, could you do a video on how to load and develop single 8 sound film in a Fujica ZXM 300? even if it's not made anymore.

@RJMPictures 4 ай бұрын

F8 is actually kinda shallow for this much magnification. Nice video

@Otokichi786 4 ай бұрын

Ooh, you're moving up to the "larger format" 24X36mm instead of Super 8 or 16mm Cine? I did this sort of thing back in the 1970's when I took Kodachrome 25 slides for an Orchid species club. I used a reverse-mounted lens, a double cable release, and a Sunpak GX8R/Capro RL 80 ringlight. There were no/very little information about exposure on very tiny subjects, so a pen and notebook to record data was necessary. For this sometimes handheld(!) activity, f/11-f/16 produced OK slides and the occasional 4 X 5" print using Panatomic-X. This ended when I changed jobs and I couldn't attend evening meetings. No, I didn't use higher speed film because the Orchid club wanted fine grain and maximum detail. Seeing people still use film instead of a digital camera is encouraging, even though this kind of activity is just a memory for me.;)

@MattysChannel1357 4 ай бұрын

Oh nice! I tried out some macrophotography with my RZ67, a 75mm lens and the two extension tubes that are available, this was one of the most un-wieldiest combinations I ever used, I didn't dare to use it in any other way but flat on a table with support under it in fear of breaking off the bajonett :D and the focal point was less than a cm in front of the lens too :D.

@NiGhtPiSH 4 ай бұрын

If you want some easy macro autoexposures the OM system was and still is in a league of its own. I do have to 3D-print new leaders for the rails of the bellows I got from Japan, to make it usable. But it was bundled with the amazing Olympus T8 ring flash and double cable release , so for the price I got the bundle, I cannot complain. Now the rabbit hole led me to the Zuiko 80mm 1:1 macro, the Zuiko 135mm macro and the double T28 flashes. As soon as they arrive, I'll be taking them for a shoot in the woods to see if I can do some work I'll be satisfied with.

@tonygraham6140 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for a video that can give insight and interest, and a hint to some of us to try something new, or just look into it. Don't tell anyone Noah, but I never knew what that symbol (infinity line) was. So what's next? Keep inspiring us as long as you burn.

@SlowGrafitti 4 ай бұрын

Attica! Attica! Attica!

@TheRenalicious 4 ай бұрын

Does a setup like this work with any lens?

@Ybalrid 4 ай бұрын

wouldn't TTL metering take the light "lost" (really, it's just the image being spread out farther) in the bellows into account? Edit: Though I think with a Canon A-series body you will need to be in stopped down metering mode, and I do not know if in this mode it will need the aperture preset signal, or if it just stick the racket to the position where f/5.6 should be and it becomes just a "over under" exposed indicator. The AE-1 Program and it's LED display will do something like that, but it's a slightly more advanced camera Edit 2: Oh, with extension tubes those signals are mechanically coupled with the camera. Same is true with Teleconverter. I don't think Canon made a "Macro Teleconverter", but Kenko made one, and it has a helicoidal, and it is made so that if you mount a 50mm lens on it, at full extension you get a 1:1 macro magnification ratio

@Luci-fd6ny 4 ай бұрын

The only bellows that I'll take are the ones in my 1917 kodak😅

@MattysChannel1357 4 ай бұрын

@AnalogResurgence Sorry, I wanted to ask before, but are you planning to do anything related to astro- or night sky photography?

@AnalogResurgence 4 ай бұрын

I’d really like too i just don’t have the proper gear for it!

@MattysChannel1357 4 ай бұрын

@@AnalogResurgence Oh, ok. I gave it a try some time ago, from two rolls of film less than 10 images were looking good 😁

@deltacx1059 4 ай бұрын

Always found it funny how macro people consider moving closer to the subject to mean more magnification, all bellows and extensions do is let you get your film/sensor to the location where the light from the object is in focus. I'm not saying it's wrong because there are already defined terms for the category but it's still funny sounding to someone who has been doing what is essentially the opposite of macro.