EXTREMELY Fast Bulgarians Man At Arms Build Order | Aoe2 DE

[@HeraAgeofEmpires2]

Let me know what New Civ you guys want me to make a Build Order for Next! Ill do all 4 before the game's release so you guys can get a really solid start on the ladder!

[@gregor9921]

Lithuanians, wondering whether you go for less vills due to the 150 extra food or jusz use the food for feudal age

[@albal156]

Maybe the +150 food that Lithuanians start with? Or see how many Keshiks you need for the Tatars gold making unit to be profitable?

[@jacobschiel3932]

How about a cumans battering ram feudal rush?

[@JonathanMeyer84]

Lithuanians or Cumens. I'm really interested in both.

[@MrSwordstroker]

Yeah that extra food on those cows kinda throws it out hey, also they have cows in userpatch on maps like hideout etc ;)

[@Zawazuki]

Very well executed! This looks like a solid strategy

[@Zawazuki]

liked! SOOOOO HYPE FOR DE!!

[@ayeminoo2067]

Thank hera. Really appreciate your effort to educate us. Summary in description will be awsome.

[@maranathashalom9402]

Tested the build, liked it a lot! I transitioned into siege rams and Konniks/Chevs, pressured enemies all game through, had enough eco for a lot of trebs as well in the end. No enemy had time to disturb my eco. Thanks for the build.

[@Nicholas-xz7ol]

King, glad to hear you're getting back into the aoe2de scene! Good luck in your new endeavors :)

[@rockin1014]

My goodness your the best aoe2 youtuber

[@ClemOL45]

Nice tutorial, you could even argue to go for the barrack with the second to last vill instead of last vill in order to have the barrack up when you click up and be even more aggressive. I guess 19 pop is even possible with a few dears instead of sheeps.

[@Cronidan]

Congrats on HCIV!! :)

[@jorgedelamora5905]

Great videos bro, keep it up

[@thisnameisnotfake517]

so this apm is what it looks like when you chew 5 gum

[@4C4P5]

You're a great teacher!

[@Wilshire71]

Helpful and to the point! I'd be curious to see the best use for the Lithuanian +150 food start. Keep up the great content

[@roastghost901]

I'm definitely curious to see what you can come up with for the +150 food that Lithuanians get.

[@karelsirucek5767]

Hello Hera, congratz for HC4. What do you think about adding early blacksmith for this build order, since Bulgarians get two bonuses for that?

[@ageofnumbersyt8557]

What about a 15Pop scrush with Lithuanians? The +150food could make a 15Popup possible and the early dmg inflicted might be enough to compensate for the weak eco?

[@pronoob2439]

Just tested it against hardest DE AI and easily beat it. I tried this build like Mongol build without 4 forragers/hunters. 6 on sheep, 3 on wood and rest on boar/sheep and build barracks before creating last vill and loom.

[@nightelf4161]

this dark age looks so smooth

[@Pecuniarly]

3:33 @Hera - Age of Empires 2, you get more food by having a lot of villagers finishing that sheep and shift-click to take the boar next. The food decays with a fixed rate per animal (as if one gaia-villager is gathering from it) so by finishing the sheep first you minimize the time that you have 2 animals rotting simultaneously.

[@duartemarco]

yes but you gather from the boar faster than you gather from sheep, so it's actually better to keep all on the boar then on the sheep

[@Pecuniarly]

@@duartemarco That's incorrect. You might collect from the boar slightly faster, but a boar has 340 food and a sheep only 100, so the sheep can be finished quicker than the boar, so taking the sheep first is better (unless you want to click up to feudal as early as possible).

[@sorinadrianpop5242]

@@Pecuniarly that is incorrect, always prioritize the boar over the sheep, it's not just about the food decay, it's about getting the most food in the shortest period of time. Also, while you eat the sheep, the boar decays as well so your logic makes no sense, you lose that food no matter what, either from the remaining sheep or from the new boar. And once again, I'd rather lose 50 food that I gather in 10 seconds over the 50 food that I gather in 5 seconds. Hera is top 3 player in the world, you think he got there but not knowing these details ?

[@Pecuniarly]

@@sorinadrianpop5242 The sheep can be finished much quicker, reducing the time that two animals are rotting at the same time, that makes perfect sense. Of course, if you want to go feudal as early as possible then take the boar first. And yes, I think that the pro players do not always do what is optimal, since they don't do all the math, and finishing one animal before the other makes only a very small difference.

[@sorinadrianpop5242]

Moving 6-7 vils from one food source to another results in loss as well, the time they are not eating plus the decay. Correct way to do it is to leave 1 villager to finish the sheep. Or try and micro the boar until the sheep is completely devoured by those dark age savages. But if I have to choose, I stand by my opinion, the boar has priority as it is being eaten much faster. There's also a villager going to lure him, that loss of time and energy alone makes the boar far more valuable.

[@masuderman2731]

OP man!

[@Naverb]

heraThink

[@toes5032]

Aight helpful and nice video, keep it up!

[@legitce5739]

Hera i really admire your fast thinking in aoe! :)

[@obeliant5025]

Amazing content. Can I ask what zoom level you have your hud set to?

[@HeraAgeofEmpires2]

50%

[@baumiphil]

hey hera. great video, thanks so much. apperently you only need to hit a boar once now and it will stay agressiv. can you confirm that? would be nice to run back to the tc quicker...

[@HeraAgeofEmpires2]

Hey i tried and it seems like sometimes when u hit it once, it chases for half a second then stops. Basically u have to hit it once then linger a bit to make sure its chasing u then run back. So overall it doesnt make much of a difference, but maybe it can help you lure those really far boars without loom now

[@baumiphil]

@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 oh ok, so in other words you still need to hit it twice to bring it back all the way?

[@HeraAgeofEmpires2]

@@baumiphil either that or hit it once and make sure its chassing u. I hit it once and ran back right away with my vil and the boar didnt even chase me at all

[@baumiphil]

@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 thank you for taking time! btw i enjoy your guide to 2k series! so many interesting insights in your decision making! keep it up!

[@satyakisil9711]

@@baumiphil Nili tried to one-shot lure boar and it barely worked. So two-shot lure is definitely better. Or pause a bit after first shot and then run back.

[@TheStrangeBloke]

So slick. I predict nearly ever Bulgarian game will open with this since their late feudal/early castle is kind of tight due to lack of Xbows.

[@amoghthorave3385]

Or you could go heavy with scouts I'm feudal do enough damage to slow them down and make konniks quickli in castle age.

[@blablubb4553]

Konniks are sick, because if you get countered by pikemen, your konniks just transform into infantry units after their horses get killed, and then maul those pikemen to death.

[@michaelrunningdeer8778]

+Hera - Age of Empires 2 is it necessary to research loom before clicking up im not a great player by no means but if you make the barracks a little earlier start feudal without loom i am aware this is risky but you can not farm any gold go straight into more wood and food only to go scouts or make a mining camp and go double archers i think the fact that you are up in his face that fast with men at arms and the resources he will have to spend to defend it will put you ahead.(your thoughts) Also if you go double range after should you upgrade them at all ballistics,thumb ring and heavy cav archer is there but the Konnik does not benefit from any of these nor does any late game light cav which you will also receive bonuses for.These are just some thoughts i really enjoy this civ but i am having a hard time with the nuances because although i played 20 years ago i am by all accounts still a noob i would really enjoy a deeper look at this civ from your prospective.

[@lukasg4807]

No loom is risky if they drush or their scout is still alive, if those aren't true then it's fine.

[@JonathanMeyer84]

If you were to try something very similar to this as the Lithuanians (saving a little time in Dark Age with the bonus 150 food, but losing a little time in Feudal due to having to upgrade your militia), what kind of time do you think you could hit to be in the same position (men-at-arms approaching the opponent's base)?

[@sd_pjwal]

also, is it not possible to queue garrisoning in the TC after clicking on the boar?

[@neel_epoch7580]

Hey hera can you do a tatar specific civ review along with their unique unit. I know you already made a compiled video on all new civs, but if you can show the speciality of tatar unique unit it would be wonderful.

[@maranathashalom9402]

Due to this vid I became a Bulgarian main :D They really need the elite fighter upgrade... Konniks are meh but a nice addition to take out SO and stuff. The auto-upgraded m@a are so strong, it's ridicuolous. Some players send vills to fight them because they think it's just militia, but it's swordsman already :D rip

[@solarboi-rover]

Well explained!

[@greyraven9164]

Didnt we have cows in the DLC for AOE 2 2013 ?

[@pepelui2914]

really good. i'll try it

[@challengeraoe1144]

Damn - don't blink or you'll miss the video Do a Cuman BO utilising that feudal aggression that they are set up for

[@CaptainCorobo]

Can you do an extended video on this,, where you go from the men at arms rush into krepost push

[@infinteuniverse]

What map is this? Is the standard now 4 sheep + 4 cows instead of 8 sheep? If that is the case, I think that will make for more aggressive/entertaining games in the early game since you get an extra 200 food to collect in the early game without having to build farms.

[@willdbeast1523]

Cumans fast feudal tcrush would be nice, I don't know how early you can go up and have the eco to support two tc vils

[@supermegaultratim]

Maybe not a build for the "professional" Meta, but really important for us casually Competetive Black forest plebs: the Fastest way to boom on a closed Map with the cumins. Hitting Imp with 100 vils at 25 min? Yes please

[@sd_pjwal]

can't you queue the hunting after building the houses?

[@MrSwordstroker]

"enough food to make some more villagers if i really wanted to" - Nah 32

[@joshuastanaland7099]

I'm new, about 1350 elo on xbox. Is there a trick to finding your opponent quickly on 1v1 Arabia?

[@Hansmaffai]

Nice. But wouldn't a 21 pop maa be better? Just clicking one more vill before u go up and still do the rest like u did. then the militia would transform into maa right when they hit the enemy, so kinda the same speed offensivly, but a bit better eco.

[@micheledellaira4306]

Hera, why do you think Bulgarians aren't used much in competitive 1v1s?

[@SauronArg]

what its the mod for know how many have in food and others? thanks

[@satyakisil9711]

But when to build TC with Cumans?

[@lucasb1904]

Hera, this works with Goths?

[@ryannayr140]

Cuman boom, dock and no dock!

[@murilom.6155]

Hera with the civilizations of the Japanese Inca Malian Persian Celts you can also pop 20 and I believe Mongolians too .. but you need to hunt a deer at least ..

[@SergiuHellDragoonHQ]

It disturbs me how fast you click and how often. Being a good AoE player is not for me I guess.

[@thecoltster1]

:( Love u Sergiu. Stronghold Crusader is my second favorite game ever.

[@blablubb4553]

Exactly. This video effectively discouraged me from ever playing Age II competitively.

[@Tocaraca]

This should work with the Ethiopians as well

[@bubumic2971]

How are u playing this ?? I wanna play too :(

[@streamofthought8662]

the 3 min militia rush seems to be hard to handle. i go 3 m rush into scouts into knights and iv been having great success

[@attilathehun2267]

Op

[@richardbos4696]

How do you defend against this?

[@n.b.2595]

Nice

[@465marko]

This is the fastest mouse clicking I have ever seen in my life.....!!! Holy shit. I guess the trick is you have to be on speed basically?

[@midas-holysmoke7642]

He's not the best player of aoe2 for nothing...

[@amoghthorave3385]

You should check out viper he's even better.

[@henningk.7305]

I gave Like no 420! Blaze it dudes!

[@tobiasfeil1993]

Everyone in 2021: "why does he shoot the boar twice??"

[@blablubb4553]

I can‘t even click that fast, let alone use hotkeys in such a fast and routined fashion. 😆

[@matthewmcneany]

Man, not having the short tree/walls mod for 6 hours is going to be painful.

[@infinteuniverse]

For 6 hours why 6 hours?

[@matthewmcneany]

​@@infinteuniverse I figure that's how long it'll take someone to build the short trees mod.

[@TheSpiritedFendron]

I want to learn this in order to use it with Incas

[@renizer]

Is it only me or this doesn't work as good towards the end if you have 4 sheep instead of 4 cows like standard on most maps? 😅

[@lukastraub7175]

omg i had to put play speed on 0.75, u made me too nervous. xD

[@jintarokensei3308]

Right, now I gotta do all of this crap the same thing...in real time.

[@joakinfrati7867]

peace

[@boogie5]

why would you show thevipr this?!

[@gastonhitw720]

pretty robotic speech bro, get youself comfortable 😂😂 love u bro

[@chiel1997]

I wanna see krepost rush ;)

[@nitesh1431]

ruso reaches ememy base in 9 min with 5 militia with aztecs

[@ShakeNBakeUK]

yo how r u so fast O.o

[@SirLaurenceNZ_2]

Maa into 1 range fc to get xbow, wait a minute :p

[@Sparklester]

Crazy how this strat would be mediocre at best nowadays. Almost 10 minutes by the time your three m@a make it you your opponent's base.

[@MartinBargados]

When you make this videos at least let us know how it went or just fast forward the rec xD

[@HeraAgeofEmpires2]

Im vs ai on easiest, and didnt even finish the game. I would just stomp it everytime anyways 11

[@MartinBargados]

@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 Then show us the efficiency of your build by smashing someone :P

[@jeroen92]

Is it me or are you playing very far zoomed in this game?

[@amoghthorave3385]

Yeah they zoom in almost 50%, helps with the micro

[@farisalnahhas363]

Hide this from RubenStock

[@ETfrogable]

You are clearly the best AOE II youtuber out here. Super kind and you explain everything and you are humble unlike the dirty snake, I will roll him in 1v1 don't worry. By the way, we don't have the grid lines + small trees + small walls + outlines for fish anymore ? : (

[@Post-ModernCzechoslovakianWar]

I haven't really played online, just watched some videos, and played against A.I. but I get a vastly different impression of Viper than you do. He seems pretty down to earth for a guy who has fairly consistently been rated the top AoE ll player when it comes to ELO and mad skills overall.

[@danielbentley7117]

WTF Viper is one of the most self-deprecating humble players out there

[@Post-ModernCzechoslovakianWar]

@@danielbentley7117 That's what was thinking too. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this comment sounded strange, and inappropriate.

[@giantwilburson9462]

i never knew how fast you pros click around. ridicukously quick

[@jordanwhitecar1982]

Seriously, if I tried to do that my accuracy would be so far off...my timing is absolute trash compared to this.

[@aquageto1824]

Haha hera trying to spoil strategies already before DE is even released to public

[@MemoContrerasf]

You had cows instead of sheeps. You got extra 200 food which isnt really a normal situation. Tutorials in normal maps next time bro

[@HeraAgeofEmpires2]

This is the normal map, nothing i ca do about it

[@mhmt.e2]

Where is the fun if you memorize the things with timings and buildings and bla bla. Just have fun guyz. Even losing is fun at this game so relax and enjoy.

[@postponingcamel5619]

Say the same thing about playing music and memorizing songs and you'll see that your statement doesn't make much sense :)

[@PermacultureCowboy]

This gives me a headache my carpal tunnel is so happy we have real strategy games now for the Middle Ages instead of this clicky click butt BS. But ya good job bro you are fast with a mouse 🙄