F-20 Tigershark Full Review - Should You Buy It? An F-5E, BUT CRAZY [War Thunder]

[@904_noah]

The F-20 was able to carry Laser and TV guided bombs as well as fuel tanks so I'm not sure why it didn't get them in game...

[@williamgunter4268]

It probably will eventually. If I recall correctly the F4S didn't get drop takes until after several months of being out.

[@riflescientist1744]

Because like the xm1 gaijin is a Russian company and refuses to give us premiums what they actually used. The xm1 in game is awful besides it's blowout panels

[@F-15E_StrikeEagle]

@@williamgunter4268 speaking of f-4s, it has aim-9L's irl and yet i dont see them ingame

[@BENKYism]

You could also get: -75 dollar menu burgers from McDonalds -15 rotisserie chickens from Costco -Netflix for a year with ads -Elden Ring + Shadow of the Erdtree DLC -2 rank 7 prems during the May 1st sale (50% off pack prems)

[@Bobspineable]

I mean this will also go on sale during November. Expect fat bank.

[@ashman8891]

Can't believe gaijin thinks this single overpriced turd is somehow more valuable than a full AAA game like Baldur's Gate 3, Horizon Zero Dawn, Elden Ring etc.

[@Cryo_Cake]

pretty sure the may sale is only 30% off nowdays

[@BENKYism]

@@Cryo_Cake 30% off SL tech tree vehicles and modifications, 50% off pack premiums

[@Cryo_Cake]

@@BENKYism i dont think thats right, i swear i remember the last may sale only being 30% off pack premiums

[@Eddie-bk8fe]

Look was this expensive... Yes. Do I love it... Yes. Is it worth 75? Maybe. But I have already grinded 4 tier 7 planes and made 5 million lions since it came out. It's been a massive time saver. This plane cost me like 2 hours of work in real life. But has saved me a month of grinding already.

[@tomtech1537]

I have a similar take after completing germany (other than alpha jet) and most way through ussr, I don't really feel like grinding US. The flight model is ridiculous, the missile load is ok enough and I find it far more consistent than I am with f4s or mig29.. or tornado lol.

[@ScoutKindaMad]

its prob the best if you want to grind anything in the american tech tree if your new

[@tabletop4455]

ah yes a new player spending 75$ and playing in a top tier matchmaker against IRCCM missles and level 100s

[@Potato_Chip11]

I just picked this thing up today, as an Xbox player it can be quite annoying to go two or three games without a kill just simply because everyone is better than you at everything. Usually I go after F-4S's because they aren't paying attention to their surroundings (Most of the time). I have found that when I am playing Air RB I usually get smacked by Radar guided missiles launched from like 2KM away, by missile spammers. I understand it is a skill issue thing, and I acknowledge that I have a skill issue. It will take time for me to get used to the controls and how it fly's. A little advice for anyone who is wanting to pick this thing up, make sure you pay attention to your surroundings, and keep an eye on your RWR, AND DONT CHASE SU-27'S OR F-15's!!!!

[@alloy299]

7 5 - D O L L A R S

[@frostedbutts4340]

$75 USD is a lot to me as someone with a OK job in the west. To a lot of people around the world it's absolute insanity.

[@mandichtittysmithyofcameltoe]

105$ if your Canadian

[@emjay3264]

60 pound

[@F-35Stealth]

I got it for 37.50

[@NiitzPT]

@@F-35Stealth where :(

[@AstroGamer_da_real]

The F-20 pulls more AOA than the F-16 AND has better low speed maneuverability.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

14:38 To be fair grinding every day for years as opposed to just paying $75 is a really obsurbe think to say to some one... Like I know no place where the minimum wage is lower then $75 a dacade..

[@foshyurgason]

Lmao that's a good point

[@TaylorMcClure-vc8fi]

Fun fact the f20 was the competitor for the f16 when the 2 were being tested to be put into service

[@dcameron902]

Im loving this thing 2 to 3 kills per game. I love that people assume that everyone who buys this is a noob. Had a lobby talking shit about f20 players, but at the end of the game both f20's were at the top of the leaderboards. Get good scrubs

[@General_kenobi12]

Haha, I also have f20 and just finished playing and my last 3 matches I got a 4 kill, a 3 kill and a 1 kill without a single death😂 my loadout is 6× aim9l and the 30mm gun pod. Are you getting a ton of downtiers? At least 60% of my matches are and I'm loving it.

[@anthony7697]

Don't have the money for the F-20, but got the A-10A when it was 50% off and I had researched almost all the Rank 6 US planes. I do so love all the people that think I'm just another 'lol I buy brrrrt for high tier' player, then wonder why they just got killed by an A-10 using it's gun in a dogfight on their 11.0 fighters. Even more fun when they do manage to shoot me down, and so instead of the 30 mm and 2 AIM-9L's (cause I don't use gun pods on an A-10 or almost any other vehicle) I spawn with the tech tree one with 4 9L's to further torment them with, though at that point, they usually figure out I'm not the noob they think I am and try and keep me out of guns range.

[@superJ1047]

You are not a noob in warthunder you are a noob in finance 75 usd for that is obscene

[@nichendrix]

Sincerely, my take on buying top tiers premiums is that except for the Blue Water Naval Premiuns, most relatively green players tends to have a very hard time adapting to these vehycles and their multitude of new systems. I've been playing for a little over a year, and have accumulated some premiums and squadron vehycle both non top tiers as well as top tiers for both Air , Ground, Coastal and Naval and Blue Water Naval American and Russian tech trees. I started buing the starter packs for all nations, the full alert pack and both pq if campaigns, then picked up some premium super-props, then I've discovered that Naval has the most enjoyable game modes, and researched and spaded the entire America Blue Water Naval tech tree in almost no time. But at a certainpoint it was becoming a problem playing Naval without premium account and getting past a certain level of where you have loads of similar vehycle that tend to often be on uptiers where they stood little chance before they get fully upgraded or at least upgraded up to the level 3 upgrades, sometimes even needing some level 4 upgrades are needed for these ships to become competitive, and since in Blue Water Naval, every upgrade is more expensive than Ground, Air or Coastal Naval, so when you win, you win insane amounts of RP and SL, but when you lose, it is also a giant negative SL hole in your pocket. I remember one time, that I started playing with around 500k SL, and then I've got ona series of half a dozen full uptiered matches where Ihad the bad lucky to have been one shoted at least once per match and lost pretty pretty quickly without killing any enemy, and the. I was only left with about 2k SL, which forced me to play with ships 2 ranks bellow my current rank in order to get enough money to play, because I couldn't pay for the my uppet tier ships repairs, rearmment and replenishing their crew. It was then that I bought my first top tier premium, it didn't make grinding Blue Water Naval much easier, and far from a piece of cake, I didn't perform much better than before, but I was more competitive because using the premium ship once per battle guaranteed I would always get a very positive SL cash flow, even when I've got my arse handed to me on a golden plate at a particular bad match, I would still get positive SL results. Later I've ot all Blue Water Premiuns except to the most recent one, most with GE which I earned playing, since until recently there was just one bought only with money premium on the Blue Water tech tree per Nation, and the most recent rank 6, BR6.7-7.0 premiunss (top Naval is Rank VI iamd BR 7.0) are quite a expensive. With Air and Ground my experience is far worse, I wasn't a begginer by any means, when I bought my few top tier jets and tanks, indeed I was already somewhat experienced as I was at upper tiers of Rank V on Ground and early rank VI on Air, but still I simply couldn't cope with processing so much information all at once, when playing with rank 7 premiums, as to properly play with them one have to learn how to use radar, IRST, RWR, and their multiple modes, knowing which ordinance to use against which enemy and in which situation, having to keep track of missiles being fired at you, and getting used to remember using countermeasures, or looking for a plane being 10 km alway anda few seconds later it is suddenly firing their canons on you at point blank, because the can go Mach 2. The same applies to Ground top tier Premiuns, with thir Laser Range Finders, Thermal Vision, Drones, Helicopters, etc., and the enemy team's players sniping at you from the other side of the map before you even realize that you have thermals, Laser Range Finders, etc., or you getting killed by someone lurking in the shadows with their engines turned off and the right camouflage to I distinguishable from a bush. Most beginners would not get 3-4 kills per game if they spend money o to tier premium jets and tanks, because they would have a very hard time learning to fly these planes or how to drive and shoot with these tanks, they until they master it all, they are just easy prey for experienced players that knows what they are doing. And nothing drives away players from games with a revenue model like war thunder than actualy spending real money for some item and getting worse results than before. So begginers buying Premium top tiers are probably single purchase users, they buy, get their ass handed, feel cheated by the company, and either stop playing or never spend money again. More experienced users, have a higher probability of purchasing multiple top tier vehycles than begginers. If I, a relatively experienced player, already playing at a relatively high Rank -- early Rank 6 in Air and 5 on ground -- couldn't initially cope with the learning curve of Rank 7 premiums right away, imagine how much worse is the experience for truly begginers. Sincerely, only when I've got late Rank 6 Air and Ground that I started learning how to use the Rank 7 Premiums, but then they were not needed for griding the rest of the tech tree. On Blue Water Naval having a premium has a smoother learning curve because there isn't much different in the combat itself when you go up on the tech tree, sure the ships becomes way slower, the guns get way bigger and better, fire rate decreases dramatically, but with few exceptions, like ships that have missile launchers, the combat system is almost exactly the same from reserve WWI Destroyers to late WWII and early Cold War Battleships. So adapting to premiums on Naval, specially Blue Water Naval is a breeze, xmpared to ground and air. Sincerely, my Rank 7 premium tanks, I still don't know how to play them properly, to me they are a little like the M50 Tank Destroyer, great when you get to use it exploiting its strengths, but most often then not you'll be trying you best to not being killed in one shot.

[@nichendrix]

​​​@@superJ1047I certainly didn't pay 75 dollars for any vehycle in WT yet, but sincerely, if I have more fun playing a paid cntent, I see no problem in doing so. My lifetime purchases on MSFS (which I play since 1993) is way larger than if I bought enough GE/SL to research, buy and spade every single vehycle on every tech tree in WT. Even my DCS lifetime purchases is way higher than all money needed to purchase all premium vehycles for sale in WT put together. The problem is spending money and receiving no perceived benefit or value on the purchase. Which, to me, often seems to e the case in WT. Finance will teach you that you trade money for value, or at least perceived value. It doesn't mean that the value perceived needs to be shared by others, even though it is a safer investment whem it is the case.

[@toasterhothead3312]

For the flares, u only need 2-4 for each missile (my flares/chaffe go out in pairs)

[@Ikoraswig]

Ariette, is the best plane even at 11.3

[@brackman7786]

So far i can say the plane works well, but its not worth the asking price. And of course the us teams are like GER ground

[@emmy8517]

its an OK vehicle but it will suffer the F-4S syndrome where loads of noobs fly a decent aircraft and are free kills flying around in top tier

[@ricolives1166]

I still remember that shooting range video when they said "we will never add top tier jet premiums" im 99% positive that video is still up. Either way the F20 is beautiful and more people will buy it to strictly bomb with it. I'm almost positive you can't even get a single base with its bombs too. Finally, it was only a matter of time before they added a T80 premium. Since the Click-Bait came I KNEW a T80 premium would come and here it is. Don't be surprised if a Leo 2A5 comes soon too.

[@pkemr4]

Su-37 is going to be a premium 13.0 or something at this rate

[@mazenmahmoud7689]

Imagine if they added the su 47 berkut as a premium 💀

[@valkyrie5972]

Hopfully a 2a4m can instead, would give me a reason to play germany

[@M1A2C.]

YF-23 will be a premium when we get 5th gen lmao

[@thekirby53]

its technically not a top tier prem. its 12.0. top tier would be a 12.7 premium.

[@anthony7697]

So, I don't know if they model the warheads differently (F uses a continuous rod, M uses fragmentation), but the M in game tends to track things better at closer range and at lower altitudes. To say nothing of high alt where I've nailed planes having fired from 25+ km away that the F just doesn't hit for some reason. I wouldn't say it's a quantum leap like going from basically any previous AIM-9 to the 9L, but it does perform noticeably better, at least to me.

[@Senbonzakura776]

Very cool. Now to wait and see if they make any "adjustments" to it

[@ReviveHF]

F-20 is capable of using AIM-120A in real life.

[@scaniadan2968]

Can't wait for the November sales!

[@valrond]

Yeah, or Christmas. Last year they released the rank 7 planes. I didn't buy any, I waited for the sales, some on November and other in Xmas. This F-20A is the first plane I buy full price in like a year and a half. And I'm having fun with it. I didn't want to wait 8-10 months.

[@General_kenobi12]

There is a sale in may

[@alphawolf1786]

​@@General_kenobi12it won't be in sale in may new premiums have to be out for at least the next 2 major updates before they can finally go on sale so you are better off hoping it goes on sale November

[@jovanni_orb5116]

How about separating props and jets tech trees like blue water and coastal navy. This will let new players that want jets get in and maybe help them learn jet gameplay with a reserve jet.

[@SkywarpG1X]

That's a good idea. Gajin take notes.

[@BlackWolf9988]

​@@SkywarpG1X but gaijin needs to sell premium vics somehow. A lot of people dont really care about early stuff in the tree especially when you have multiple trees already grinded and only care about high tier.

[@SkywarpG1X]

@@BlackWolf9988 Most people don't have a single tech tree maxed out. Let alone one multiple tech trees, plus if that was the case Gajin wouldn't create premiums for earlier tiers. Like M18 Blackcat, German T-34, Comet I Iron Duke etc. Clearly the snail has a team of marketing analysis that's telling them to create. Create earlier premiums to keep players engaged. So they are more likely to buy higher tier premiums. Which only reinforces my point and jovanni_orb5116 point. That prop planes and jets should be separated. Like costal and naval.

[@HAMlLTON]

the issue with $75 is that it’s the cost of a whole game, and all it’s going to do is allow you to progress in a free to play game. $60 are already insanely expensive

[@dogsrule4643]

You should review the Stag Hound anti-aircraft

[@its_homeslice]

Made a whole new account and got this to see how good it is at grinding and its a really good grinder i am getting called a noob and shit because im low level with a f20 but it doest matter its not the plane its this pilot for this aircraft its very good just be sure to watch out for your fuel

[@VipingRXY]

Sadly watching this in the future and its yet to be included in sales

[@mothermoy]

On sale today 11 5 2024

[@toasterhothead3312]

When MiG-29 12.3 or 12.7 premium? The MiG-23ML is near useless at 11.7 especially when I gotta fight against better opponents and it’s nerfs

[@Dysfunctional_Reprint]

I hypothesize that it does better than the F-16A because people see this and think you're a wallet warrior and they're about to get some free RP and SL.

[@WarThunderGerald]

Can you link to this skin please in description or comment here? Cant find it..

[@gertaro]

The plane is one of the best dogfighters in the game BY ITSELF, but at BR 12 it gets outclassed by everything else and it also costs 75 dollars so yeah...

[@TriclphZ]

lets be honest. this newest BR update here, F-20 js at 12.7 and the F-15s and F-16s with Aim-120s are at 13.7.. if you get a full uptier, you as good as dead.

[@kineuhansen8629]

70+ usd for a premium no thank you and for that price it should come with 10000 ge

[@MichaelMeyer93]

How does it compare to the F4s as far as a purchase?

[@jaxfet3]

f-4s just has terrible maneuverability, more of a strike aircraft or long range missle spammer with the radars guided aims

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

It depends on the play style you want. Do you want a missile truck with a preference towards medium range attacks, or a lightweight knife fighter?

[@Dysfunctional_Reprint]

The F-20 is this: Mom can we get an F-16? We have an F-16 at home

[@kyoto-fs3fc]

which is more worth it f4 or f20 for grinding and playing wise

[@Aviation_Pro28]

F-20 for having fun F-4 to grond the tech tree

[@Cody-k4t]

needs to be 11.0-11.3

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

13:03 I'm goddly in a F-4 phantum 2 in ever game/sim but am only just good in the F-16,F-15 and even F-22... Because my playstyle is best suited for the F-4 then it is to the newer fighters... Which the F-20 is likely your F-4.

[@MikeSpike.]

Hol up, F-22? You playing in the future?

[@dentist-chan]

Bro comments from 2034

[@zerthios]

Does the F-20 get a gun pip from radar lock? I see you using guns but not with the pip.

[@General_kenobi12]

Whay do you mean by pip?

[@shobe5235]

Yes it has radar gunsight

[@ViperFox_]

Agreed I have done better in the F20 than i ever have in the ADF

[@Lycon721995]

I'm a MASSIVE fan of the F-20 but that 75$ price tag wtf? Sucks this is prbably the only game i can fly this in. :/

[@SkywarpG1X]

The F-20 tiger shark is playable in Ace Combat 5.

[@dandelion4523]

I'm no fly boi but I hope this plane could help up our USA tech bois.

[@omgcannon896]

Play F16C block 30 installed, waiting for Mitsubishi F2 super Kai

[@AstroGamer_da_real]

?

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

The Super Kai was never built.

[@Elite_EM]

So how much did gaijin pay you to not say that its complete garbage????

[@F-35Stealth]

F-16🍆F-5E=F-20👍

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

Actually, replace the F-16 with the F/A-18. The engine on the F-20 is from the Hornet.

[@ashman8891]

This is a scam to bait noobs. It's gonna get eaten alive in uptiers and will be mediocre at best in CAS. I wouldn't even buy it in a sale. You're better of getting the F-5C. You can still research up to rank VIII with it while enjoying excellent performance at its current BR

[@pfguy.]

if they believe everything people say then thats their fault for not having any experience. Its about the pilot not the plane

[@DrFrogglePhD]

​@@pfguy. You sound miserable. Leave the house. Jesus.

[@altacc0604]

F5C has fallen off. Lots of uptiers, and yes u win most turn fights but ur crappy engine with its slow top speed means u aint catching anyone, and most people know to avoid you in a turn fight

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Why only noobs though? Like I don't have years to dacate to WT to get the F-16 for free but can beget permitting just pay $75... And it's not like WT is the heardest Flight sim to every exist that "honor" has to go to Ace Combat 7 online... Like why does every WT player think every WT player only plays WT and nothing else?

[@giantmidgetfreak1298]

If you haven’t got the Russian tech tree I recommend the mig23ML

[@Eeponizedpiglet908]

Currently lacs a drop take he says (whale he is using a drop tank)

[@surrounndedbyClowns]

Is this fighter earnable by just playing? Or you have to buy the pack ?

[@PringleVR7]

Buy it.

[@fire_drake12.arc.24]

Zunis are currently missing from the aircraft despite it being able to use them IRL. Gaijin once again half assing a US vehicle.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

14:20 I feel that is exactly what should be premium because it's slightly worse then the tech tree version and is a unique experice...

[@twchnoblitz]

Good plane, bad br and price

[@twchnoblitz]

Should be 11.7

[@Sacciii_]

i think this vehicle may be a worse version of the f16

[@pkemr4]

Its bombs arent strong enough for bases while carrying full air to air missiles

[@HAJARHICHAMI]

With 1 bomb 2k lb and 2 napalm u are able to get one base. Obv with 6 im9l

[@warThunder73]

U dont speak for us we buy what we want

[@valrond]

It's fine that this vehicle is a premium. Only 3 were made, and there is one remaining in a museum. You have the F-16A in the regular tech tree that is about the same. No need to put it in the regular tech tree.

[@alemsabanovic233]

I like war thunder community Make new OP premium aircraft - [community raging] now we are screwd because of wallet warriors Make decent to bad premium aircraft [Community raging] it's garbage, it doesn't worth it, total rip off

[@BillyLndn]

For 5€ more than the price of a AAA game you can get a reskin F5C 😂😂😂 War thunder whales are acoustic

[@axm2689]

'Acoustic'? I think you're the 'acoustic' one!

[@plastic_fish8138]

Nice got it at 17 seconds. Also 0 views man fell off

[@Tankenstein]

My own calculations say I should have at least 100 views per second in the first 23.4 minutes. My channel is done

[@AstroGamer_da_real]

@@Tankensteinit ramps up bro

[@Joe-lw1wc]

Tankenstein u fell off man u my fav creator 😔

[@waskus]

Buy it😂😂😂😂 75 bucks my Ass.

[@luisb7107]

Wow no bot comments...

[@aviation459]

Nope

[@TheCephalus]

but how sexy is it?

[@aviation459]

3rd

[@fenixsortudo1906]

If you want the game to improve: no If you want to destroy the game: yes

[@gramgram11]

Level 10s & 20s will buy anyway

[@fenixsortudo1906]

@@gramgram11 Yes, unfortunately the future of the game is in the hands of noobs

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Meanwhile DCS: "Want to expernce the full sim? pay us $80."

[@AstroGamer_da_real]

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough $20000 you mean?

[@connorwinton4343]

Only buy it if you enjoy top tier gameplay and know how to use it. So many idiots with this thing fighting on the deck with the aim-9ls and wasting them. this thing has incredible time to altitude and you can easily sling your sparrows up at 15k feet ~1.2 mach and you will hit your target if they're not notching/hugging the deck. Then dive down and dogfight whoever is left and low on energy.

[@valrond]

If you want to use the Sparrows, get the F4S. 11.3, and it has 4 Sparrows.

[@connorwinton4343]

@@valrond the F-4S doesn't have the same time to altitude and it can't regain acceleration quick enough after maneuvering

[@Denkmaldrubernacht]

Climbing with sparrows is foolish and won't ever convince me differently. You have way more kill potential lower to the deck as 1: you fight USSR a lot as USA, meaning you will get outranged and outspend by R27 2: no good player will ever die to a radar missile past 15km 3: hugging the deck, mostly and usually, gets the win

[@connorwinton4343]

@@Denkmaldrubernacht absolutely untrue

[@Denkmaldrubernacht]

@@connorwinton4343 very true, BVR is a gimmick and climbing in top tier is dead