F-20A Tigershark - They are charging $75 for this? This is a mistake...

[@botimegaming]

Which side of the armrest is really yours at a movie theater?

[@aidenwengert1649]

Both

[@tallleprechaun1318]

right side usually. Or whichever side lets me be farther from peoples

[@lil.xanywt3488]

Both on a Tuesday

[@axolotlknight]

Both

[@EQUAL_Thundered]

Depends which side i sit on, if it is towards the left, i will use the left one but if it is towards the right, i will use the right one :)

[@smokinggnu6584]

$75? For that price, i'd much rather get myself Helldivers 2 and then eat pretty damn well for the rest of the month with what's left over.

[@marsfreelander5969]

If at 11.0 thus would be great

[@mrdiaz45diaz78]

Join the helldivers become free

[@bradfordbroswtent.8450]

I live in Sydney, Australia, I am from New Zealand though, here in Australia it would cost me $114.29c, but in NZ money it would be $123.28c, Imagine all the stuff I could buy with that much money, here is the really funny part, even though it is only my wife and I here, either the NZ or Oz money doesn't even cover a weeks shopping or some of our bills here, at least here in Sydney.

[@smokinggnu6584]

@@mrdiaz45diaz78 really wish i could. Dont have the $75 or the $40 or even just $5 free for games atm or even forseeable future. Times are hard.

[@Shieldv13]

You could also get your self some Deep Rock Galactic

[@apljack]

20:35 I love how you can just watch that missile outright go 'nope' and veer hard for the ally jet in the back. And then the pay off several seconds later...

[@KoolKyurem25]

the little grey text saying the F-104 was hit that went ignored too

[@botimegaming]

I had the strangest message in another game that just went severe damage but aircraft kept flying... At top tier jets bo's brain only works so fast lol@@KoolKyurem25

[@echalone]

@@botimegamingI can relate to that xD

[@KoolKyurem25]

@@botimegaming fair enough lmao but it's just amusing to watch it happen under your nose

[@danielcamacho1913]

And the penalty was 44,000 silver. 😟 That's more than I get paid for most matches.

[@michaelkarnerfors9545]

05:37 Shout-out to Zuit for his cunning use of flags, and to Bo for knowing the reference. :D

[@liladoodle]

What is it? I don't get it.

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

@@liladoodle British colonialism as a whole, I think.

[@DERP_Squad]

There is an Eddie Izzard skit about British colonialism being based on the size of the flag. Essentially, we own it because our flag is bigger.

[@philhealey2520]

No because we have a "flaaaaggg"

[@MJPIA]

8:20 almost sounded like you had a cloaker chasing you

[@botimegaming]

You can never outrun the freaking cloakers.

[@sirwhippamus]

Just remember, thats the price of a full fidelity DCS module. But it's on sale right now so that's really at least 2 high fidelity modules. Still. The best and only WT content I consume anymore. Thanks Bo!

[@n1thecaptain965]

I feel like I lost IRL hitpoints reading that sentence out of sympathy for everyone who actually spent that money...

[@sirwhippamus]

@@n1thecaptain965 that's a lotta damage chief. 😂 I'm sorry for your loss. Come to the full fidelity side, we have cookies and health points and our spawn costs don't exist. 😆🍪

[@n1thecaptain965]

@@sirwhippamus already there mate, though I'm flying the FC3 aircraft first. They're cheaper and I can still get away with flying without a HOTAS

[@sirwhippamus]

@@n1thecaptain965 That's exactly what I recommend to anyone making the switch. Rock what you got, and when your ready, step into something you like and the rest will follow. I do get the plethora of systems seeming to be a hurdle so if you just pick the jet you love the pressure of it all turns into the joy of getting to master it. Honestly a lot of the systems translate well to the other jets (the viper and the strike eagle for example.) Oh! And check out TUUVAS, mans uses a controller for all his full fidelity stuff and offers all the control schemes for free to download so you can plug and play now if your wanting to start pre purchasing a hotas. It helps, but you don't need it. Don't tell my girl 😂.

[@stickboy24]

We need to teach you personal space...

[@jordanhawks1035]

You can always get a spray bottle stick

[@CommanderKraft]

Don't let Bo lie to you, that was very much a George of the jungle move. After all you didn't watch out for that tree...

[@TrickiVicBB71]

Hi Stickboy!

[@philliphagan4760]

With sarcasm: Gaijin doesn’t sell top tier premiums…they sell premiums at one rank below the highest rank. They don’t base the term “top tier” on BR.

[@setesh1294]

The F-20 is top rank.

[@irawan1416]

They do base the term top tier on BR, this thing is rank 8

[@philliphagan4760]

@@setesh1294 yep. I used sarcasm for both statements because they have said both in the past

[@philliphagan4760]

@@irawan1416 I used sarcasm for a reason. In the past they have always claimed they don’t sell top tier premiums. They got around this by always selling the premiums one rank below the highest and use that to defend their statement no matter what the BR. And yes this one breaks both statements

[@taylormjolsness7480]

4:22 to 4:48 that’s the best Top Gun canyon run I’ve ever seen and the whoever was in the F-16 behind you, he was very brave to chase you through that canyon

[@zehi04]

8:47 , zut did the maverick thingy "good morning aviators"

[@Phoenix_Phelan]

6:00 So what I'm hearing is that the British are just the ultimate loot goblins lol

[@BritishTeaLover]

I mean, we didn't make the worlds biggest empire just for the weather.

[@darthnihilus2729]

@@BritishTeaLoverNor for the spices, apparently.

[@Eclipse-lw4vf]

if you want this plane, highly recommedn waiting for sale, if u arent even to 11.0 jets in the tech tree yet, dont think about buying it because u will not have fun

[@GodWentAFK]

The Centauro 120 is an even more egregious premium, since it's a copy of the best vehicle in the Italian tech tree.

[@MechaNick767]

That Eddie Izzard reference was spot on and I loved it. xD 👍

[@kylekehoe]

How about we talk about the $120 German tiger premium

[@viperz3r016]

you can supercruise with this thing especially if you have 2 9L and 7F with a 45% fuel load, and at 6km you can go Mach 1.09 without afterburner

[@wingcommanderbob8268]

12.0 for this thing without the conformal CRMS pod or AMRAAMs is a yikes... should really have waited a couple patches before adding it, but hey, Gaijin moment

[@viciousslayer]

with the fm it has it does not deserve to sit at anything below 12.0

[@manager7186]

they should put it at like 4.7

[@DevCorpGaming]

I mean, Zuit is right by calling it an F-5, considering it was initially the F-5G

[@keithrogers6876]

I appreciate what you all do TBLF ^^ Anyone else having a chuckle at the TBLF members who live in USA going on about British colonizing countries that already have people living there?

[@Octane4927]

“There was a bridge there!” 💀😂

[@merafirewing6591]

That went Topgun/Ace Combat really quickly.

[@tallleprechaun1318]

75 USD for one vehicle? I could get a full game for that. Am I that out of the loop on modern premium vehicle prices? (although, only premiums I bought were Prinz Eugen and HSF Harekaze in WoWs)

[@inkycat7167]

I mean fuck it’s 500 HKD for me… 5 fucking hundred… a game is normally only 349 and i could get an extra 2 macdonald’s meal

[@-SkyCat-]

ok cool that's you.. some don't play many other games. some can do this and be fine.. if you don't want it then don't. that simple... nothing is forcing you.

[@georgewhitworth9742]

@@-SkyCat-Thats the issue, Gajin knows people like you won't point out the OBvious rip off of their product pricing, and your attitude is allowing them to get more and more greedy. Not to mention, what a calused reaponse. "Oh, there's a digital jet you want? But you say it's stupidly expensive? No one is forcing you to buy it." What a "let them eat cake" response.

[@rcrawford42]

What game does Gaijin think they're running? Star Citizen?

[@carlwheezerofsouls3273]

“nobody is forcing you” hows that boot taste?

[@austink4712]

The best Northrop vehicle ever made is the mailcat. Change my mind

[@AFriendlyTheo]

nah you're right

[@rowanyuh6326]

Bro said the best Northrop vehicle was made by Grumman

[@mason-x4k5x]

It was made by Grumman

[@lordsylph414]

love finding QuackBang friends in the wild xD

[@Phoenix_Phelan]

I appreciate Stick's drop tank joke as things were getting chaotic. xD

[@donnym3415]

When bo when into the canyon all I could hear was Eddie from stealth saying "goodbye Lieutenant" before he crashed😂

[@sortius_]

Don't get me started on the inaccuracies with this thing. The radar is wrong (it needs TWS, despite what Gaijin say), the engine is anaemic, and it turns like a boat. Not worth the money at all, which is a shame, as I was tossing up between the F-4 and the F-20.

[@BritishTeaLover]

5:50 You could also ask Hawaii locals about how they feel...

[@danielcamacho1913]

Many of them probably think they're better off being a state than not. Others are pretty glib with a racial slur for *everyone who's not Hawai'ian*

[@BufferThunder]

I would love to see Bo play Helldivers 2 with the group, its the perfect game for you all!

[@prindel7582]

hippity hoppity your country is now my property slaps union jack on it

[@MrRazgriez666]

6:27 hoarders is a funny way of pronouncing "collectors" 😂

[@themightywookie351c3]

Thank you for the review. $ 75.00 is not cheap

[@sea_muffin]

The MiG-28 is my favorite fighter jet! I’m so glad Gaijin finally added it

[@This.Handle.Is.Taken.I.Guess.]

The MiG-28 isnt in War Thunder, its just an F-5 with a F-18 engine and the MiG-28 is a F-5 painted black

[@jtl-08]

@@This.Handle.Is.Taken.I.Guess. that's the joke

[@sea_muffin]

@@This.Handle.Is.Taken.I.Guess. you did not just say that 💀

[@SlipKnot7866]

6:16 😱 Did Bo just refer to one of my fav comedians/actors!?

[@SlipKnot7866]

Man just got done watching a Doc on fighters that never were; The F-20 had the ability to equip 4xAIM7F and 4xAIM120 and not just 2 AIM7F. Makes me sad this Jet is no where near the potential it should've had in the game.

[@lonurad1259]

5:44 Ahem. Panama. Cough. Middle East. Cough. The entirety of the US west of the east coast. C o u g h .

[@akka8588]

No one: This plane costs $75 and is a mistake Bo's Wallet: take my money

[@Hadgerz]

Content Creator Program

[@rho117-sigma83studios]

Happy (day late) Birthday Bo!

[@jtl-08]

His birthday is today actually!

[@botimegaming]

Thank you!!

[@rho117-sigma83studios]

@@jtl-08 Is it? I have it on my calendar for the day before, but I guess I actually said it on time then! (I'm from Russia, a day ahead)

[@zehi04]

let's do a bit of a comparison ja37d viggen 360 flares 6 aim9Ls good radar amazing turn time great acceleration br. 11.3 f20 Tigershark 45 flares 6 aim9Ls good radar amazing turn time great acceleration br 12.0 costs 75 dollars Gaijin, reduce this thing to 11.7 , it does not hold up in toptier

[@internetdenizenW]

0:37 my average experience with teammates

[@mh-ki2dv]

THATS WHAT THE SOUND IS I just now realized the jets when flying past sound like the Wraith from Stargate Atlantis.

[@LaraineBouguer]

The great irony of making this the $75 premium is that the actual F-20 was designed to be much less expensive than competing planes like the F-16 so that America's more cash-strapped allies could have a competitive fighter they could afford.

[@NotTurboZoid2023]

I Loved it when you said, Stranger Danger have an AIM-9

[@mfern45]

It's not even that planes aren't worth the price, imo, it's that the gameplay on offer isn't worth the price. I'd pay $75 for a plane I wanted if I could play it in a bigger and more immersive game mode, but the gameplay on offer is more akin to what I'd expect to spend $0.25 on in an arcade.

[@imabanana5377]

I did my full USA Air grind with the F4S

[@tallleprechaun1318]

remember, no one owns it until they have a flag. Ironically, the British museum actually has preserved some items that would have been lost otherwise because they had the funds to spare to preserve the items

[@georgewhitworth9742]

The historical British rock, ngl

[@jermainemedlock]

The F20 has a drop tank now

[@saebeorht7275]

lol loved watching this aircraft in the anime area 88 as a kid.

[@jtl-08]

Great video Bo and Happy Birthday! I was excited and had high hopes for this plane sad to see its a $75 premium and not at all worth it for its BR.

[@prestonjohnson1343]

I was wondering when we’d see a Bo f20 video, the true MiG 28 😂

[@HankyInTheTanky]

F-5 is the MiG-28 tho??

[@prestonjohnson1343]

@@HankyInTheTanky ya I know I’m just saying those would of been cooler 😂

[@paulb359]

I was waiting for this video as Bo has always shown whether a vehicle is fun over whether it's "good" or "balanced". While it looks like it has its moments, I think I'll give this one a miss until the next sale.

[@_jaegerboy_]

$75 for an experimental aircraft that didn't even participate in any combat? Was it even battle proven? That damned snail...

[@greyfox78569]

Most of the improvements were done to existing F-5Es the engine it shared with the Hornet. It was cheaper in the long run to just buy a new Hornet than upgrade the F-5E to the F-5G (F-20 was called originally) and then buy a Hornet later anyway. That is what happen they either bought the Hornet or just stuck with the F-5E until they bought the Hornet.

[@hhale]

The conversation you had early on about whether to buy it or not is very similar to the conversation that went on at DoD and Defense ministries in other parts of the world. Great fighter, massive improvement over the F-5, but...the F-16 and F-15 were already a thing. It didn't help that marketing the F-20 to foreign countries was done strictly through the State Department, who had no interest in selling the F-20 in particular to anyone. After several years, three prototypes, and lots of interest but no buyers, the project was cancelled. Another Northrup project of that era however had a happy ending: the B-2 Spirit. I seriously doubt you'll ever see it War Thunder (pun intended), and if you did, it would be nerfed to hell.

[@weiwu1442]

75 dollars for a game thats been highly anticipated and requested is a crime in of itself

[@michaelkarnerfors9545]

Fun fact: the F-20 has the same base engine as the JAS-39, though Volvo Aero developed it a bit for the Gripen to be more tolerant to bird strikes, and with better engine control.

[@jtl-08]

It uses the engine originally meant for the F/A-18 the F404-GE-100 the Gripen uses the Volvo RM12 a licensed derivative of the F404 series.

[@Skylikesavation]

It would be good they implement some system where you have to have gotten to a certain point in the game to be allowed to buy a plane of this br. Otherwise this really makes a good premium, it’s not too different in gameplay to other things but it’s unique historically. Price wise yeah $75 is a lot but it’s not unusual for war thunder unfortunately

[@kamenwaticlients]

The War Thunder folks should add the YF-12A/F-12B to the game as a premium.

[@Keff11ispired11]

I've been loving it, as an avid lover of the f5e, this tickles me in all the right places from thrust to maneuverability only aircraft I enjoy as much and more right now is the f15 in terms of top tier aircraft

[@manager7186]

yeah i dont know why people are complaining just dont buy it if you think its bad

[@T95man]

It should at most be 60$ and that’s pushing it

[@danielcamacho1913]

At that price, I'd still wait for a 50% off sale. 😄

[@T95man]

@@danielcamacho1913 same

[@mfnamedsopor5759]

Now the F-5E they just added, that thing is awesome

[@ricolives1166]

I still remember that shooting range video when they said "we will never add top tier jet premiums" im 99% positive that video is still up. Either way the F20 is beautiful and more people will buy it to strictly bomb with it. I'm almost positive you can't even get a single base with it! Also another Abrams is surprising but more freedom is good. Finally, it was only a matter of time before they added a T80 premium. Since the Click-Bait came I KNEW a T80 premium would come and here it is. Don't be surprised if a Leo 2A5 comes soon too

[@BlackjackXCII]

THANK YOU for referencing the Eddie Izzard joke 😂

[@arcamean785]

Gaijin needs to pass whatever they're smoking to think this thing is worth $75... even DCS isn't that bad. :p

[@danielcamacho1913]

Are they smoking? I just thought their decisions were driven by vodka and sleep deprivation. 😄

[@skylerruelas2903]

Definitely waiting for next Christmas before I even think about getting this thing

[@_ZK691]

You guys are the best

[@TomPrickVixen]

Its the F-5H (aka Hot-Rod edition)!

[@GarGhuul]

Let’s get to work, Tiger-shark!

[@isaacking7437]

The grippen sounded like a cloaker when it was behind you

[@TrickiVicBB71]

Missile missed F4 and decided to track your friendly

[@V13per]

Tbh if it was like $50 it would be worth it. It handles well and rolls better then most planes. But 75$ is way to much

[@epicjulian99]

Yeah, I'm personally gonna wait until it goes on sale. I am not willing to spend full price for it, especially since the GE and Premium Time amounts didn't go up either

[@BrasilianZombie]

I really love watching you guys, especially because you have a normal gameplay. Beeing half british i don´t know if americans should say something about invading and taking resources, i mean the USA has done this more often in his short History then the UK.

[@xXSoul-ReaperXx]

If we have this we should get the super tomcat

[@bencollins7121]

i can forgive but i will never forget what you did to my f-16a :(

[@queuethorn]

love how every member of TBLF has their own unique flavor of failing trust exercises, ranging from 'genuinely apologetic' to 'slow-burn Machiavellian betrayal'

[@BBRAIN1977]

its nut that br and still engaging at 2km with those planes. always thought high br planes did the long distance engagements

[@majogl188]

2:20 Lol they said they would never do SO MANY things... From russian that translates to "Wait a year at the most, but probably in a week..." XD My favorite is still the Maus or E-100

[@MJPIA]

Just wait until BVR and fox-3 arrives next patch because bet that wont he higher than 13.0 so this'll get to fight that

[@RyRy_941]

While this video was a lot of fun to watch, I do think I'ma pass on the F-20 after seeing this. It does seem like a very capable jet, but miiiiight be punching just outside its weight class a bit at 12.0. Thanks for the amazing content, guys! AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY BO!

[@egmccann]

I was wondering when the Eddie Izzard quote would come up about flags...

[@MrRenegadeshinobi]

This is the crew I wish I had.

[@lmaniac58]

Granted....$75 for a vehicle alone is a bit much, however if I have to say, it's a lot better then spending $2000 for an IS-7 or $500 for a Rank II vehicle like on Gaijin Market....I mean if I'm going to spend $75 on WT, I rather get multiple vehicles then just one...still it's nice to see the F-20A in the game.

[@227thw0lpak]

Love Zuit trying to take things that don't belong to him.😂

[@super-kz1yy]

4:47 could have used his turn like sides ways turn to get threw that with f20 very easily but he was getting chased so he prob didnt think that

[@babalonkie]

Can someone help... i thought the 3 F-20's ever built could only fire air to air on their wingtips as the air to air system were not linked to the other hardpoints... Or are we really now going into the "What if" scenarios?

[@biomike01]

We already got a what if with the Japanese F-16

[@mahieuwim]

@@biomike01 Or the armed Horten. There's tons of what-ifs in the game.

[@skullyairsoft80]

It's a damn shame, I love the F-20 but I can't own it since I would never spend $75 on a single vehicle in a game I barely play anymore.

[@Juho-uf8si]

17:35 i was cheering so hard so that aim9L could hit his friendly F16 lol, those things never pull that hard for an enemy plane

[@Fenrir-Wolf1998]

People still complaining about paying a premium for $75? Come to Canada, you'll have to pay $110 for the vehicle

[@daniel_f4050]

I wish they’d given the F-4 and F-105 their underwing fuel tanks. The F-4 rarely carried the centerline tank except on long range escort or long distance base to base transfer flights. And an F-105 without those underwing tanks would have run from MiGs and be on its way home while meeting at least one tanker. Really every modern-ish (has an afterburner) jet fighter should have their fuel tanks. It’s kind of dumb to leave them off so many planes. EDIT: And former whale or not there is no way in hell I’m spending $75USD on a pixel plane that’s almost as good as what’s in the Tech Tree. That much money could finish the research and fully spade multiple vehicles.

[@nomeDdeepS7]

Missile knew where it was 😅

[@nekophht]

I honestly don't understand the appeal of spending enough for entire games for a single digital item for an online game. The fact that it seems not that great, at least at that BR, just makes it worse. At least your sorta of made it work anyhow? Keep up the good work, Bo & Co!

[@LAHFaust]

Gaijincononics, spend $70 for CoD and get 5 hour campaign or spend $75 for F-5 and get 100 hours of grinding for a F-16!

[@darthbader6506]

There's only one way to stop premium vehicles getting more and more expensive and we all know what it is

[@skodass1]

To be fair to Zuit his ancestors did EXACTLY that... flags means ownership of the land... i wonder how it would pan out if I placed the Danish flag on UK soil....

[@aussieaussieaussie8754]

yes the "road map" is good

[@Bucket_Ball]

Frankly, i think the latest update was one of the most mediocre updates. Not many new vehicles and a thousand new premiums, of which most are "top tier"

[@Caintuckiee]

Bring back Bismarck !!! That guy is freaking funny..

[@th0r945]

Bo get you own drop tanks as zuit paid for his own and thats why he can brag about them. Great video Bi, Stick and Zuit

[@ODST_Parker]

Bo, my Italian F-16A got its wing drop tanks, so I don't need my centerline tank anymore. Not sure if it's compatible, but it's all yours if it'll help.

[@danielcamacho1913]

So, BR needs to come down one increment? And then we wait for a 50% off sale?

[@trevorwhitham6742]

You’ll love top tier war thunder *top tier war thunder *missiles*

[@get_vectored2757]

I think at the very least they should have added a tech tree version of this jet with a better payload. That way I could fly it without paying a small fortune. I’m sick of the last few updates being centered around premiums instead of actual tech tree aircraft.

[@carlwheezerofsouls3273]

how do you think the low BR players feel? “you’re welcome little ones, you get a new SPAA….. in the french tech tree……. you wanted that, right?” the game is just being updated purely to keep the high level whales in the game, like Bo, as long as he’s there to buy the new jet and make a video about it, then the update worked.

[@MrAcuta73]

But the Brits let Warspite die an ignoble death. She said FU to the scrapyard!! RIP Grand Old Lady.

[@iffracem]

"They are charging $75 for this? This is a mistake..." No, it's normal operating procedures for Gaijin. Some of the digital representations of a vehicle/boat/plane only available in their shop cost more than complete, decent games. Often just copy/pasted versions of vehicles that already exist in the game. No Man's Sky complete cost less than that, and they've been supplying FREE DLC's and enhancements for nearly a decade. Everything they do is for revenue, from the deliberate introduction of vehicles at obviously low BR, the never ending grind to encourage players into using $ directly or $ through GE to buy their way through, the so called "events" (now nearly constant) that further adds to the grind, with an extra incentive of some "gift" vehicle to entice those afflicted with FOMO. And don't forget the "market" where they actively manipulate the prices by removing vehicles then adding them back temporarily to make them "rare", raise the price, increase their cut. Sure, they are in it to make money, to pay wages etc... but they go way too far compared to what they give back.