F-35 vs SU-57 - which would win?

[@riccccccardo]

When doing these videos always best to put the stats side by side.

[@riccccccardo]

@Antonio Tarasova 👊🏾

[@dinhamid515]

SU 57 is good

[@dinhamid515]

SU 57 is faster n very good manuever..

[@andreimazilu7585]

and maybe use the metric system as well, just like everyone else who makes these types of videos.

[@fork9001]

If you use imperial units for F-35 and metric units for Su-57, no one will be able to tell which one is better, avoiding all flaming in the comments (joke).

[@hishamtinaoui8201]

I don’t know about the performance superiority but design wise the SU57 is awesome

[@drumguy1960]

If the beauty of a plane had anything to do with performance the SU-57 would be awesome...Nobody can question this fighter planes beauty.

[@FIowersForMe]

The sound it makes its very unique when heard from the ground its terrifying its almost like a whistle sound

[@justsomeguywithoutashirt7535]

It's literally faster and more manoeuvrable, and the f-35 lacks fox 2 missiles, so the f-35s only chance at winning is using the superior stealth, that's it's only strength.

[@andreyusin3689]

​@@FIowersForMeDepends on the engine, I believe.

[@yomama629]

@@justsomeguywithoutashirt7535 the F-35 has far superior stealth, avionics, radar, sensors, data fusion, electronic warfare, and networking than the Su-57. All these things give an aircraft an insurmountable advantage in the modern era. The time of turning dogfights is long gone, and the F-35 is undoubtedly the king of the sky

[@stanshatter3875]

Nuts how the SU can Tokyo drift in the air.

[@Terence911]

XD

[@msl2867]

Plane go skrrrt

[@KapitanPisoar1]

Cool for parades and promo videos, useless otherwise...

[@sithassassinstl7864]

can it do it while loaded down with ordinance. Nobody really knows. The F22 was able to do all kinds of crazy stuff until they put weapons in it and then the weight changed the plane's entire agility profile. Also, looks good until you bleed all of your energy doing it and hang yourself out for a missile shot.

[@musiceditfor]

Can boomerang should we say.

[@XxnosmanXx]

SU-57 is an amazing piece of engineering. I’ll give them that. It’s a masterpiece

[@hannukoistinen5329]

Especially in Ukraine russkieboe :):)!!!

[@lukahiltunen7986]

@@hannukoistinen5329 häh

[@daseokamenis]

@@hannukoistinen5329 What is Ukraine?

[@softdrink-0]

@@daseokamenisgoogle it retard

[@BRADNONEYA]

They need to sell them to China, in return for money and man power to ramp up production.

[@dopplerapples7307]

That howling sound from the SU 57 is crazy n scary AF

[@bekeneel]

I've haerd F35 is crazy loud too, reportedly it's many times louder than it's predecessor here the F16.

[@fork9001]

@@bekeneel Not just the volume. It makes an eerie siren noise that makes me feel like something is stalking me. Imagine it’s coming in for CAS and the last thing you hear is the whistle of the Felon.

[@AMOUREDD]

That's another form of battle for mental wellness

[@norbertm5513]

all 9 of them... :)

[@spibuckeyefan1]

I heard the Su 57s have more bark than bite. Gen 4 engines

[@RealJustLaw]

SU-57 looks so damn cool!

[@andreasschmidt2739]

Orc made aircraft always sucks....

[@RealJustLaw]

@@andreasschmidt2739 your Nazi is showing

[@brutaladvance16.43]

@@andreasschmidt2739 Yeah, like the fat rat that is the F-35 🤮

[@brutaladvance16.43]

Look at those wings, look at those curves, look how big she is, she's so pretty.😍😍😍 not as the fat rat of the F-35.🤮

[@protohass]

​@@andreasschmidt2739sucks how? Because it isn't American? I think your bias is strong af

[@leeroykampalwe7398]

Su 57 looks amazing

[@godzillaeatsushi4979]

Look too fat

[@PAnGLiMaBAniJaWi99]

@@godzillaeatsushi4979 f35 is looks to fat... not su57 bro...su57 looks like slim body...

[@godzillaeatsushi4979]

@@PAnGLiMaBAniJaWi99 su57 is too wide compare to f35 that why it doesn’t look to fat

[@______1043]

@@godzillaeatsushi4979 su 57 looks sexy af thin and all that shit f35 is good at all but kinda looks fat

[@米空軍パイロット]

The F-35's body isn't that large. It just has small wings.

[@Dustinjamesmusicpage]

The 57 is the only plane I’ve ever seen that gave me a cold chill. In my life.

[@f7serrano17]

Hahahahaha! Why? All they have are prototypes? Smh lol

[@f7serrano17]

@@ottomais they only have 10 planes Einstein! And they’re all prototypes! I’m assuming the Suck ass 57 have no problems right? Just the F35 right? Remind us again how many export customers does the Suck Ass 57 have?

[@f7serrano17]

@@ottomais are you dense? Seriously? Read my lips dxxx axx!!!! Russia doesn’t have SUck Ass 57 operational yet!!!! All you have are 10 working prototypes!!! They don’t have one single export customer! Smh

[@f7serrano17]

@@ottomais hahahah! Putin wanted to sell it you dummy! India was going to buy it until it had issues with its stealth properties and radar! Don’t you read? The F22 was purposely not sold to any other country because the US(my country) was worried about secrets leaking out!

[@f7serrano17]

@@ottomais that’s why your weapon systems are getting beaten up in Ukraine! Hahahahaha!

[@Columbus1152]

The US, as well as all other countries building high performance aircraft, knows that fighters can be built that exceed the physical abilities of a human to withstand the forces on them. So, everyone ultimately comes up against that physical limit and evens the field. To gain the extra edge, the US design philosophy is all high tech, Russia is all about robustness and overwhelming force. I would hope we never have to find out which direction would win wars and we leave these questions to the fantasy sites on KZbin.

[@syedmuzammelali7101]

We can hope, realty is bitter then what we want to achieve

[@ramirexbruv6292]

True true

[@Zamir19499]

You're right!

[@millanferende6723]

Or some super advanced, hyper realistic simulations in the future!

[@DJSouthFlorida]

Men lie woman lie numbers don’t!

[@Rusich945]

The SU57 carries 6 medium-range missiles (up to 190 km) and two short-range missiles, a total of 8 missiles

[@danylokosmyna7115]

Yes 2باکستان آرمی موکی لات جادو مخلوق سےٹراسمیٹرزلگاکرپوری باڈی کنٹرول دل لیورکیٹنی لمزدل دبارئ ھےسیٹالائیٹ انڈرائیٹ سوففٹ ویئر آل کنٹرول پاکستان ارمی

[@bdaycake2847]

@@danylokosmyna7115 Wtf

[@danylokosmyna7115]

@@bdaycake2847 There was a dude that commented something in Arabic multiple times under every comment so I copied his text and replied to him. Apparently he banned for spam

[@bdaycake2847]

@@danylokosmyna7115 ohh… damn.

[@garycleveland6410]

Plus a 30mm cannon

[@blakeh2219]

F35 vs Su57 isn't really a good comparison. One's meant for BVR and networking, while the other is meant for Air Superiority. A better comparison between to nations would be the F22 and the Su57; both of which were designed for Air Superiority

[@roe151]

If the F-35 is in a dogfight, the pilot has made a series of errors in detecting the enemy aircraft.

[@cecilmessi6972]

Su-57 would fail to establish air dominance too. The best bet is to use it as a strike fighter.

[@deniscicic8074]

@@roe151 SU-57 is the one plane you can not detect first. Has 7 on board radars of various bands. It's literally a flying radar.

[@roe151]

@@deniscicic8074 That makes sense, so you are saying the F-35 may not detect the SU57 right away.

[@deniscicic8074]

@@roe151 Nope. I'm saying F-35 or F-22 can not sneak up onto SU-57 as they can with all other planes. SU-57 will detect them before they enter BVR attack range of their respective long range A/A rockets regardless of angle of their approach as it has radars on the wings screening flanks of the aircraft as well. It uses L- band for LR detection I believe, it's not weapons grade detection but it alerts SU-57 that stealth plane is there. so he can alter course and engage it, switching to front X-band radar and use its longer reach perspective long range hypersonic rockets which not even F-22 can not outrun.

[@brikeswardebbarma4029]

I love su 57 for its highest weight to thrust ratio and higher maneuverability 👍

[@anigmaYT]

F15 was better at dogfights f35 better in general purpose f22 better in fighting also f18 better at electronic warfare also the f16 is better than f15 just wanted to mention it 104 and 0 best kill do death ratio

[@stevenspilly]

The SU-57 does not "weigh 4 times less than the SU-27". The SU-27 weighs 16,380kg, the SU-57 weighs 18,500kg.

[@kenneth_4095]

maybe what the video says, it's about weight per size, the size of the SU-57 is bigger but only has a slight difference in weight with the previous version of the SU-27

[@stevenspilly]

@@kenneth_4095 still not 4x less any which way you slice it

[@555shekha]

Power of engines

[@Caytomadeit]

He probably meant %

[@evansamson2704]

Ok, good to know because I found that fucking impossible to believe when I heard it.

[@josephgriggs6739]

I’d love to see your thoughts on the new ‘Super-Raptor’ vs. SU-57.

[@brutaladvance16.43]

Would you like to know who is more powerful? the fat rat of the F-35 or the vellesa of the Su-57 🤔

[@yomama629]

the regular F-22 is already far superior to the Su-57, no need to compare new variants

[@shrekdorado4213]

Imagine a world without wars...

[@albiedam3312]

Then I wouldn't have a job t-t

[@shrekdorado4213]

@@albiedam3312 well this reality is sad XD :(

[@coyarmstrong291]

war part of our history and still go on till human being doesnt exist in earth

[@jumperman1962]

Not realistic. Humans are violent by nature……

[@albiedam3312]

@@shrekdorado4213 it is, and I hate it. I don't think anyone should die for ideals. But I'm willing to sacrifice my life to save another

[@watcher63034]

Aside from my take on which one wins, I absolutely love the SU 57's looks and aerobatics. If it has American stealth coating and avionics, I would pit that against most anything.

[@ФеликсДзержинский-ф2ш]

American stealth technology is called "Magnetic Wave Diffraction". Created by Russian scientist Ufimtsev. Recognized as unpromising in the USSR. Very thick coating and works in a narrow range. Do you know why ASML was created in Europe to produce lithographs and modern microchips? It would be more logical to produce in the USA. Lithography using inert gases Soviet development. Measurement systems are different. Copy impossible, you have to do the calculations. It took ASML 11 years to produce a prototype. Start mass production for another seven years. In Russia, lithographs and microchips are produced at 320, 160 and 68 nanometers. The plant is ready and this year they are launching production up to 7 nanometers with an improvement to 1 nanometer using X-ray radiation. The prototype PR 10 is ready. In 2021, according to the statement of the KRET company, a quantum radar based on the control of the chaos of quantum particles was successfully tested and will be integrated into SU 57. 2018 electronic stealth technologies. 2022 created "Product No. 2" Afterburnerless engine. So we're all good. Someone shoots down planes and helicopters in Ukraine with missiles, but no one can detect them. :)

[@dragonmyke]

It does!!

[@WhenindoubtFox-3]

@@dragonmyke no? No it does not have american stealth coating or avionics

[@DrScarface74]

@@WhenindoubtFox-3 it has much more advanced avionics.

[@intrepidoutlaw706]

@@WhenindoubtFox-3 bro he said IF it has american avionics and stealth coating. IF

[@demetriolabador3902]

Who would win? It depends upon the abilities of the pilot.

[@Inovatornotimitator]

SU35, SU57 = the best fighter jet in the world

[@Harry_Ballz]

​@@InovatornotimitatorThat makes no sense in this case

[@skull1161]

why do people always say this its like asking who will win an lion or a mouse and they say it's upon the abilities of the animal like no dude this is comparing the jets not the people in them and if you really wanna bring that up you should know that US pilots have way more flight time than russian pilots and have more expensive and intensive training

[@captainbryce1]

More than that, it depends on the nature of the battlefield. In a beyond visual range engagement (which is what all modern engagements are now) the F-35 is going to win because it has superior avionics, superior tracking, and superior stealth. In a dogfight (which is highly unlikely), the SU-27 is going to win because it can outturn and outmaneuver the F-35.

[@DorahMusipili]

Never we are comparing specific fighter jet performance with the best pilots in them in this specific scenario, Russia with su 57 will win usa f 35

[@riazhassan6570]

More and more, modern fighters are becoming platforms for launching smart missiles that carry on and do the job themselves

[@michaelrunnels7660]

All 4th generation fighters are platforms that can kill other aircraft beyond 30 miles. Some 4th generation fighters can destroy other aircraft more than 90 miles away. All 5th generation fighter have weapons than can kill any aircraft at 50+ miles......if it can detect them.

[@riazhassan6570]

@@michaelrunnels7660 Hardly need fighters anymore. You just need some plane to hoist you up to whatever height you need to go, look for the enemy with smart electronics, fire off weapons that think for themselves-and go home? That ‘Maverick’ stuff is becoming obsolete

[@davidhuett3579]

Which begs the question .. 'why keep building new fighters'? We can build a shit load of guided missiles for the cost of a fighter!!

[@riazhassan6570]

@@davidhuett3579 Quite so-however, it took people a long time to stop building hugely expensive, but hugely vulnerable, battleships. Tanks might also be on their way out, although a lot of money is still being sunk on them. Now it is all cheap, fast missiles and drones that think for themselves in swarming attacks. Fighters that can twist on their tails, hang in the air or dart around at Mach 3, impressive though they are, are becoming less relevant with the passage of time

[@michaelrunnels7660]

@@davidhuett3579 Firing a missile is only one thing a fighter does. True fifth generation fighters as defined by the U.S. are capable of inputting virtually every sensor in theater from every service, managing all the data, then assigning weapon systems throughout the theater to deal with all threats whether they be air, ground, or sea. The battle management capabilities far outweigh the missile firing capabilities in lethality. Think of it as a combination AWACS, Rivet Joint, and air-to-air fighter all in one airframe. This type of capability is what the U.S. thinks of as true fifth generation. Most other countries (and most internet posters) think of fifth generation fighters as an airframe having some level of stealth.

[@timothylee2772]

This should be a comparison between F-22 vs SU-57

[@baroneleve1196]

F-22 is even older than the F-35. It's obvious the SU-57 will still win.

[@Watchtower77]

​@@baroneleve1196F-22 Raptor is a different story.

[@MiG-31893]

@@baroneleve1196Su57 will be detected and shot down from miles away, with either F35 or 22 it doesn’t matter

[@Watchtower77]

@@baroneleve1196 SU-57 doesn't have all the required specs to even be considered a 5th generation fighter😂

[@LiamCochrane-ph2kx]

@@Watchtower77 which ones?

[@FusionMan-ev9yh]

The SU-57 will definitely win a close combat dog fight or any other scenario. Its front view is very intimidating, such as in the Top Gun 2 movie. Its safe to say that its maneuverability cant be beaten by any other jet out there but that is all for the capabilities of the pilot flying it.

[@skull1161]

It wouldn't win in a close combat dog fight, at least not very easily like you are saying. F-35 has 360 degree IRST, factor in that the newer aim-9x blocks are just as good if not better than the R-73 you get a merge that would likely end in both pilots dying or one pilot getting lucky. The dog fight is not done with guns, it's done with high off boresight fox-2's that do all the maneuvering. It's not even worth mentioning though, because the Su-57 is terrible beyond visual range, it's "stealth" is not stealth, it's a 4.5 gen with some radar absorbent material. If your somehow in a dog fight with a Su-57, a lot of things went wrong. Just to list some: Somehow your AWACs failed to warn you about a Su-57 engaging you, which is almost impossible. Somehow your wingman didn't detect the Su-57 either. Somehow you failed to lock the Su-57 after realizing it was closing in. And finally, ironically somehow you even saw a Su-57 since there's only about 10 of them flying in the world, 9 of which are busy doing air show tricks.

[@olivierdegrange2042]

​@@skull1161Non I don't think the F35 can outmaneuvered the Su57. The vectorial trust is a huge technology but not enough in front of a real stealth aircraft like the F35.

[@skull1161]

@@olivierdegrange2042 That's what I'm saying though, the F-35 has better sensors even in the dogfight, it doesn't matter how well you can turn if there's already an aim-9x coming for you

[@youloh3458]

@@skull1161 su57 also has a 360-degree IRST, and the R-73 has been decommissioned since the collapse of the USSR. And the aim 9x is 10 years behind the modern missiles of the Russian Aerospace Forces, such as the RVV-MD2. It is also worth noting that the su57 is more stealth than the F35 and F22, and it is also faster and has better maneuverability. Stop listening to American propaganda and be real

[@skull1161]

@@youloh3458 lol now I know your trolling, get a life you 300lb neck beard

[@ormbywaly4350]

These 12 machines are all pre-production prototypes. moreover, there are no 12 of them because the number 7 was smashed and lost. 4 machines are supposedly serial, the army returned to the manufacturer. 3.01, one machine has a different type of engine than the other.3.09 one older engine and the second development version a little longer

[@antonmode1626]

I don't want to upset you, but there are much more machines built) they are not in operation at the moment. Only 10 aircraft are in operation so far. Next year, about 40 more units will enter service. And a few years after the construction of another workshop for the assembly of these aircraft specifically, their serial production will grow to 90-100 machines per year. But this is a reserve for export. For Russia's domestic needs, only about 80 machines are needed.

[@jorislal]

@@antonmode1626, that may have been the plan but as we see nothing goes according to plan in russian military and given the economic collapse of russia that "not according to plan" will be even more severe.

[@antonmode1626]

@@jorislal Economic collapse? What? Where did you hear about this?)

[@bloodangels8301]

@@antonmode1626 Now country wants to buy SU-57 right now. And next year at most 2 or 3 new SU-57 will enter service.

[@SL-jo4om]

@@antonmode1626 As we've learned to our great amusement in the last year, Russia's military is actually a Potemkin army, whose main task is to syphon off money to oligarchs and apparatchiks. Deployment of the mythical SU-57 will probably happen around the same time as the "invincible" T-14 tank. "Any day now." LOL! Meanwhile, SU-57s and T-14s make great showpieces for military parades -- something Russia truly excels at. All in all, another tough year ahead for vatniks I'm afraid.

[@richardpeachey1103]

its not just about the aircraft, its also the skills of the pilot which adds a lot to any encounter.

[@brennansnitkey8530]

Do you really think any f35 pilots will be bad? No they will be pretty good while you can't say that about russia

[@benson4820]

@@brennansnitkey8530it doesnt even matter how good su57 pilots are, it simply doesnt have the capability to stand up against the f35. Its stealth capabilities are a joke

[@brennansnitkey8530]

@@benson4820 it only would have a chance if the f35 had all it's missiles gone and it was stupid enough to fly into the plane

[@samluca1244]

And proper maintenance...

[@chaseprobst7259]

@@samluca1244the only reason you can’t take out a squadron of su57s is because there’s not enough for a full one while the f-35 is on track to have 3000 units worldwide

[@mikekenyon8483]

Both are deadly. The difference will probably be the experience of the pilot.

[@zer0gaming1991]

I heard this one already.

[@japsracing959]

and numbers as well as there is only a hand full of su57 and f35s come in the 100s game over

[@charlesdixon552]

There's more than 1000 F-35's.....What are there 12 SU-57S? lmao!

[@KapitanPisoar1]

Pilots dont matter in 21st century....

[@mandonini_]

@@charlesdixon552 This is a comparison 1 vs 1 plane. Thats what the tittle says. I understand that you are a American BOT. Have a nice day.

[@absolutelynothing9394]

It's like comparing a fighter against a bomber. But this time, the bomber is also a fighter and has the radar signature of an aircraft carrier.

[@idontknowanygoodnames1498]

With all the important info of both aircraft classified, all anyone can really say is which is most produced and which looks the best.

[@fredrickgraves2869]

In the case of Numbers the Russian's are screwed...they've only built 12 SU-57s vs the US already having produced 730 F-35s

[@SuperDinoFilms]

"looks best" should be kept out of the conversation, this is not Instagram modeling.

[@idontknowanygoodnames1498]

@@SuperDinoFilms you misunderstood what I said

[@engraciofuluyafoy6404]

Russia is a battleground never conquered. Russia relies on winter and it's troops. Russia defends first then attacks later. The UD on the other hand brings ear away from home. What if war is brought to homeland US? How would the pampered Americans react?

[@widevader]

@@idontknowanygoodnames1498 well you have to account to which country spends most money on their military, no doubt russia would mass produce su57 if it had put 10% of gdp into military, and took trillions in debt.

[@DEPUTYVETERANARMY82]

Su 57 looks like something aliens 👽 made. Beautiful plane. Me being prior Army I still love the F 35

[@RoachXV]

Looks pretty similar to the F-22 tbh

[@jamesofallthings3684]

If you're army the f-35 won't be helping much. The warthog saves your assess.

[@mattk9644]

It’s literally a copy of an F-22 the Russians can’t do anything original they wanna be us so bad

[@coccolino68]

su 57 - piękna maszyna ! 👍

[@annoymouse890]

Naprawdę

[@Amalgz6gl]

Yaa❤

[@AdiMaco]

Both jets are formidable!

[@AlvaroALorite]

5:10 "... execute the menouver which literally defies the laws of physics" *DOUBT*

[@thejdgoodwin]

Good catch. Nothing literally defies the laws of physics, including quantum mechanics.

[@krekona6332]

@@thejdgoodwin 911 defied the laws of physics

[@thejdgoodwin]

@@krekona6332 No law of physics has ever been defied. None. Nowhere. Never. ...except perhaps in the imaginations of those who have little understanding of Physics. Laws of Physics have been revised upon the receipt of new data, or new interpretations of the data. But laws of physics actually defied? No. You're engaging in magical thinking. Follow the science.

[@Echo4Sierra4160]

In a dogfight the SU-57, that's what it was made to do. The F-35 would dominate in BVR.

[@AKlover]

If the F-35 is not "Running Slick" i.e clean wings with no missiles or tanks it has no particular advantage in BVR. USAF all but admits "If an F-35 is dogfighting........ Somebody Fucked Up!" Meaning the F-35 cannot dogfight. The SU-57 has helmet mounted sighting/cueing too as well as high off bore heat seekers it also has A cannon IIRC 1-2 variants of the F-35 do not.

[@spartanx9293]

@@AKlover If any fighters ever in a position to dog fight they have f***** up off boresight missiles have killed the dog fight not to mention why would an F-35 ever be in beast mode if air superiority had not first been achieved And the 25 mm cannon on the f35 functionally does not matter cannons are never used in air-to-air the last kill with a Cannon occurred during the Gulf war both were from a TENS firing at helicopters

[@Thetequilashooter1]

@@AKlover You obviously don’t keep up on the news. There are quite a few articles about how successful the F-35 is at when dogfighting, and quite frankly its maneuvers at airshows are a hell of a lot more impressive than the Su-57s. The F-35 has displayed much better high-g turns and shows it’s incredible power. All the Su shows is that it can go low and slow performing low-g maneuvers. Hell, the Su hasn’t even shown the ability to shoot its guns or air to air missiles in flight from its internal bays. And yes, the F-35 does have HMS, plus its pilots have binocular vision, the ability to see clearly at night, and they can see through the aircraft, which gives them a huge advantage, plus they can que their missiles, and link to other fighter’s missiles to shoot down their adversaries. Only the F-35B doesn’t have a gun, but a gun pod can be mounted if necessary.

[@slycer876]

@@AKlover the f35 can actually do some pretty surprising things though in airshows usaf is hiding it but fr the f35 will never win in a dogfight with the su57 unless u put a monke in it

[@apolloaero]

@@AKlover The F-35 is not good at a rate fight, predominantly used in 2 circle fights. With most aircraft having off-boresight missiles and HMD, this would result in mutual kills. Where the F-35 excels is in high alpha or 1 circle fights, which matters a lot more. Where it suffers though is in energy recovery, or so I've heard With that being said, I like how you immediately assume a dogfight just to discount its BVR capabilities. The Su-57 would have to survive getting into the merge to even attempt wvr. Even with its IRST, the Su-57 wouldn't be able to detect it soon enough to matter

[@MrLiusz]

Hello, I like the su 57 the best so far among the fighter planes, it's simply amazing :)

[@palohagara105]

except it is not. And does not even exist. No,.5-10 pre-serial prototypes with still pending changes and NO MOTOR (Izdelye30) =that is not ready,finished plane.

[@sojourner4137]

Good comparison but you never mentioned SU 57's target acknowledgement to target engagement capabilities. You skipped that fact. I believe it is double the F35's ability.

[@anigmaYT]

Source

[@mehmetedex]

in the past battles took years with these tools we can see our end in a mere hour

[@ElTigreDelNorte_]

Whoever loses their stealth aircraft first loses the war

[@julwiezdeghorz5089]

Indeed. Pretty scary. WW1 and WW2 will be nothing compaired to WW3. 🤔 Even the Covid virus and its variants will not survive .

[@CrayonEater255]

@@ElTigreDelNorte_ dude the Su-57 is not even stealthy at all, those giant engines reveal their position

[@arnavcarpenter4063]

Very neutral comparison, I like it.

[@kartatay-ru]

Если ты услышишь звук Су-57, тебе понадобится консультация психолога.😁

[@RO-pg9hw]

Well chances of hearing it outside a parade in Moscow is extremely low so no worries. 😂

[@anigmaYT]

​@@RO-pg9hwyou need to see a psychologist because your clearly hallucinating if you hear su57

[@EvilMonk20]

I hate it when people say "literally defies the laws of physics" .... but it's physics that allows the plane to do this. What you mean to say, is it defies your novice understanding of what you think physics should be. It doesn't intuitively fit in with your preconceptions of physics.

[@lompehvelen5293]

SU-57

[@Thetequilashooter1]

Is a joke.

[@jijbuizen]

@@Thetequilashooter1 Thats not what your mom said last night

[@FirstOrder-le9is]

@@jijbuizenmakes no sense but alr

[@jarekrosinski8862]

comparing the F 35 to the Su 57 is like comparing a sports car with an off-road car and wondering which one is faster

[@denverchin44]

Su-57 is faster than F35. hahaha! Try to be more precise in comparison.

[@denverchin44]

Otherwise, Su-57 was built to defeat all latest aircraft of its adversaries. Do you really think, Russia simply created Su-57 for nothing? Su-35 latest variant is more deadlier than of F35 which is only better on papers but not on actual combat. To remindyou, F35 and even their other jets are not yet tested at war against powerful opponents unlike Russia.

[@TheRealBillBob]

Well if you use that comparison, an Off road car can get you there faster if it can cut across non-asphalt terrain to get to the goal faster. 😂😂

[@r25012501]

SU57 is actually a very impressive piece of work it wasn't made by dummies the 1st time i saw it stop dead and in a spin and then just zoom off my brain broke was like wait wait wottttt....😱

[@CMark89]

As with all things... It DEPENDS. These 1v1 comparisons are never as simple as it may seem. I'm an eagles fan, and when we brought in a select bunch of players some years back we started getting touted as the, "dream team." Well, everything and anything can look fucking awesome on...... Paper! In real life, however, that's a different story. There is a number of factors that go into play here. So as of now, I'd honestly go with the aircraft that is actually produced in abundance lol. I mean, let's be honest 😅

[@Glidescube]

I wish they had developed the YF23.

[@thomasboulos8368]

because a bunch of crooks in DC owned stock in Lockheed and Boeing.

[@randygravel2057]

“It weights four times less” what does that mean?

[@riazhassan6570]

He means one-fourth. This is a common error

[@randygravel2057]

@@riazhassan6570 I doubt a fighter jet weights 1/4 the weight of another

[@riazhassan6570]

@@randygravel2057 Same doubt here. Made with cotton wool and bamboo sticks, perhaps

[@huntersawyer9324]

​@@randygravel2057it doesn't. It's a really quick Google as well idk why he fucked it up

[@ro6178]

I think the su-57 is slightly superior on a dog fight against the f35, but not against the f22 raptor, I'll love to see that comparison !!!

[@vk_o2540]

Yeah "slightly" 🤣 .... in 100 dogfights SU-57 would win 100 engagements.

[@ro6178]

@vk_o2 honestly, yeah! (Slightly) they're both great Aircraft even though the su-57 has advantages doesn't have all, perhaps the f 35 sophisticated radar engage the su first 😉 and succed, after all is not just the machine, is the pilot !!! Also the f-35 is not meant for dogfight like his counterpart, again 🙄 let's make it real f-22 raptor vs su-57 more fair fight .

[@yomama629]

@@vk_o2540 nope, AIM-9X and F-35's HMD visor don't give a fuck how maneuverable your aircraft is

[@lulu_hendz]

I think the su-57 is actually nicknamed the f-22 killer

[@yomama629]

@@lulu_hendz anyone calling it that is seriously misinformed. With a radar cross-section 1,000-10,000x the size of the F-22's and a much worse radar it stands zero chance against it

[@pharookgagamel9443]

It is SU-57 in fact it should be compared to F-22 not this little F-35

[@spartanx9293]

The su-57 is going to crash and burn it is inferior in every way to the F-35 it was so bad the Indians even backed out

[@soumyadeepghosh3562]

@@spartanx9293 Indians backed out because of PRICING ISSUE, MANUFACTURING IN INDIA ISSUE and RELIABILITY of parts issue. Not because it is inferior to other counter parts. Also, yes it is not as much stealth as F22 and F35.

[@theTutenstien]

To f-22😂😂 su-57 isnt even real 5th gen. Try compare it to a f-15 or f-18 maybe

[@joshthemigpro1733]

@@theTutenstien it is a 5th gen fighter

[@joshthemigpro1733]

@Fred Garvin no its not tho

[@farmingpinoy1776]

I'm skeptical about the stealth capability of SU-57, which is the prime feature and advantage of the supposed 5th generation fighters.

[@NYJGreatness]

That's pretty much what the Russians told their buyers in order to buy their junk.

[@roman.impulse]

@@NYJGreatness Knowing what your F-35 buyers are saying, I can guess why you say that

[@Roruoni]

I personally think the sensor fusion suite and data sharing platforms are the most valuable aspects of a 5th gen fighter. These days multi-band RADAR schemes with data uplinks enable enhanced visibility of stealth aircraft. Where an engagement takes place matters so much more. The Su-57 RADAR visibility is much reduced headon anyway. It's use as a bomber therefore is still viable. Seems standoff attacks are going to be the preferred strategy of use of these aircraft in contested airspace anyway. That's how the Israelies keep using them. Why risk the aircraft close up when the missiles can be launched from safe airspace.

[@totallynottoaster1114]

The official patents from the Russian Government for the Su-57 and the documents about the RCS were leaked/translated, the Su-57 has an RCS of 1 meter squared, from the front that's not even talking about the side or back.

[@m.a3914]

@@roman.impulse Yeah most of the richest coutries in the world...

[@Gravitasfree]

Well as there are less than 20 su57's, and about 800 f35's... I'm gonna say the f35.

[@freshairforever7760]

f-22 wins all dogfights

[@yousiflakho1771]

@@freshairforever7760 US chose quantity over Quality...

[@freshairforever7760]

@@yousiflakho1771 keep telling yourself that , SMH

[@mojackis8096]

@@freshairforever7760 the us did choose the f35 tho. the f22 is too expensive

[@questioneverything4722]

@@mojackis8096 Nothing is too expensive for the USA military budget bro. They went with the F35 due to Raytheon, Boeing, Lockheed MArtin's profit motive..

[@symstriker6074]

700 vs 30 manufactured aircrafts. F-35 wins :)

[@JaySuds312]

It's not the plane, it's the pilot. 😏

[@slycer876]

I ain't gonna lie su57 is sexy also I think a better match up would be f22 vs su57 also the su57 would have the edge in a dogfight and in bvr f22 no doubt but I think they say su57 can pick up things as stealthy as f22 under 50 miles I don't know if it's true. I hate how some people that know nothing about aircraft say ohh su57 will always win and f35 will always win like bruh.And we all know that Russia and America ain't gonna fight each other else that would be the end of the world they would just fight proxy wars like the north and south Korean one.

[@AdalbertSchneider_]

wow, somebody with basic knowladge ! Strange on YT :))) And yeah, the deciding factor would always be the pilot, plus the circumstances in which they would face eachother. Not to mention, that this scenario is highly unlikely to begin with...

[@slycer876]

@@AdalbertSchneider_ yep russia and usa would fight each other I think they would be fighting proxy wars and a merge would most likely not happen

[@slycer876]

@@AdalbertSchneider_ ur smart too and thanks.

[@Thetequilashooter1]

The Russians claim that the Su-57 is super maneuverable, but so far it has not shown anything impressive that you’d actually see in real combat. The maneuvers that matter most are high-g turns, both sustained and instant, top-end speed, and the ability to recover from high bleed turning, none of which you’ll find in any Su-57 demonstration. Going low and slow performing low-g maneuvers won’t cut it in real combat, and will only make the pilot a sitting duck. I’ve seen both the F-22 and F-35 performing more h-g turns than any Su-57. Russians like to boast about their aircraft having super agility, but if you watch none of them demonstrate sheer power, which is what’s needed for dogfighting.

[@splendid9910]

Heh, ofcourse, they just pick up information from some biased news source filled with clickbait and way-off estimates of the Aircraft's capabilities, basically they hear what they want to hear. Common sence prevails in the silent majourity which hopes that this engagement never takes place at all.

[@bryanrussell6679]

Guns only fight, I'd say the Su-57 has the better odds. I think the BVR engagement will favor the F-35 all day long. And I have to agree with so many others, the Felon looks badass.

[@yurykuleshov]

F35s chance if hitting su 57 is less then 50% with 2 rockets in bvr engagement😉 russian were smart and created a variety of those, so 2 rockets fired come as 2 independent event statistically creating 75% chance when locked on. Yes f35 might fire 1st, bur most probably. It will miss. Having 2 rockets left, the pilot will prefer to leave the fight, but he cant outrun the felon 😇

[@bryanrussell6679]

@@yurykuleshov Maybe. But I'd also bet the newer missiles perform better than what is considered public knowledge. But I'd rather see neither plane having to shoot at each other.

[@yurykuleshov]

@@bryanrussell6679 very true! GOOD DAY AHEAD 👍

[@Pepsi-Mann21]

@@yurykuleshov What's stopping the F-35 from firing all missiles at the Su-57?

[@InglewoodzFinest]

Y’all understand that the f-35 simply cannot be found. You guys aren’t getting that but ok lmao

[@РайанКупер-э4о]

I don't know about combat performance but as a program f-35 is better because in same time span it delivered more. It doesn't matter if Su-57 is worth 5 f-35s in combat (it doesn't) if there hundreds f-35s against only 20 Su-57.

[@mondg6051]

Sometime the capability declared is not true so my judgment let see in combat which is the best

[@pedromiguelalmeida4446]

let's hope not.

[@rwu76239]

SU57

[@slayersboxer915]

f35 wasn't made to be the best, it was mae to be just good enough to sell to allies, theres a reason the f-22 was never given to a single allied country. because its the best of the best and they couldnt risk it getting in an enemies hands

[@ripLunarBirdCLH]

F-22 is an air superiority fighter jet, just like Su-57. And AFAIK F-22 have avoided detection flying RIGHT THROUGH RUSSIAN AIRSPACE on multiple occasions. Therefore Su-57 would be down before it even realizes what hit him. F-35 however is not an air superiority fighter. It's a multirole fighter. But seeing as Russians traditionally have trouble building modern radars, I wouldn't expect it to be able to detect an F-35, certainly not over its own territory where it can gain access to ground radar data. Also building a couple prototypes then never proving they can actually do what Russians CLAIM they can is traditional Soviet disinformation tactics.

[@bekeneel]

@@ripLunarBirdCLH On most I agree with you but F35 isn't just "good enough to sell to allies" lol, cuz US has lots of F35 too & even discontinues F22. F35 has that air superiority as well, some new features too (which is normal considering F22 was made in 90s already). Unless you mean dogfights, which is something of the past anyway.

[@GamingStarslegends01]

@@ripLunarBirdCLH give f22 to ukraien and see what happens

[@alejandrorenovatio9736]

@@ripLunarBirdCLH The same was thought by the pilots of an F-117 that flew over Serbia not long ago.

[@KevinGodin-tx7zt]

Correct we don't give out the true stats numbers on what it can do too. It's confidential. F-22 is tried and true and we have 180 of them so a fighting force Russia has like 5 SU-57 and it's not tried and true at 5 jets lol

[@shelukindo]

When you look at both planes you wonder about the character of both teams of designers and their briefs. Su57 ...create something sexy and bad ass at the same time. F35 design a stealth plane

[@igorvasin6960]

ok what do I think? I watched an impartial analysis of the F-35 and Su-57 from an American expert. he said that US marketers indicated the smallest wave of reflection of radio beams from the F-35 hull, while the Russians indicated the largest wave of reflection from the surface of the Su-57. that is, if we compare seriously, the F-35 is more visible to radars than the Su-57. but the Su-57 also has additional equipment for detecting targets without radar exposure, which allows it to detect a target without revealing its presence. In addition, the Su-57 has additional radars on the wings.

[@anigmaYT]

Are you serious the us created stealth I think their jets to it best

[@anigmaYT]

If you think the su57 is less visible than the best stealth aircraft in the world your stupid

[@kumarraj_2199]

STEALTH: F-35 Wins. Better all around stealth while the SU-57 is only focused on frontal aspect stealth PERFORMANCE AND MANEUVERABILITY: SU-57 wins. Russian fighters are known for thier maneuvarability, ruggedness and robustness in WVR combat if handled correctly. SU-57 accelerates faster, has 3D thrust vectored engines, better maneuverability and very high AOE that the F-35 can only dream of. This does not mean the F-35 cannot maneuver well but SU-57 claps the F-35 in any maneuvering aspects RADAR AND AVIONICS: Draw. Both 5th gen jets have powerful AESA radars. Range and power of these radars are classified. US jets are known to field reliable radar avionics but the SU-57 also carries advanced AESA radar that goes toe-to-toe with western ones. FIREPOWER: Both jets have internal weapons bay. Both jets can carry additional weapons for non-stealth missions on external pylons I'd opt for SU-57 with its advanced radars and maneuverability if you want to maintain air supremacy into contested airspace. This jet is a potent dedicated air superiority fighter. It is rugged and robust and can maneuver well and dogfight. It was made for that. I'd opt for the F-35 in suppression of air defense or strike missions. It has excellent stealth that gives a high survivability and can also defend itself well agaist air threats. It has a powerful integrated radar and avionic that makes it more versatile in strike missions and better weapons selection vs ground targets. If both aircraft goes toe to toe without support like AWACS it would depend on pilot skills. Both jets are stealth with powerful radars and ECM jammers. Both may or may not detect each other at BVR range, and if both jets detect one another both have also powerful ECM jammers that reduces tracking and lowers the resolution of radar locks. The moment both jets have a good radar detection, tracking, scanning and resolution they are already too close to each other and may have a few moments before merging into WVR. The Su-57 is better at WVR becuase of its maneverability but both jets are armed with high off boresight missiles (AIM-9X and R-74M2) that may end up with mutual kills on both sides. Pilot skills are the factors that will affect the outcome if both jets meet each other

[@Rumbler298]

On point. My country use both russian and american jet and our pilots says that it depends on skill. Sorry for bad english

[@boikanyoonneng9170]

You are lying you realize that right?

[@Thetequilashooter1]

You’re way off. The Su-57 is often criticized for not having enough engine power, a flaw that India mentioned early on. The F-22’s70,000 lbs of thrust is far superior, giving it a huge edge in dogfighting. The F-22’s AESA is a mature 4th gen radar. Russia still to date hasn’t put any fighter into service with AESA, something that the USA did over 20 years ago and has a substantial lead The F-22’s stealth, radars, situational awareness, sensor fusion, and maneuverability are all superior. When it comes to weapons, the F-22’s beats the Su-57’s as well. During the MMRCA tender India’s Air Chief stated that the USA had the best weapons, radars and systems, and the USA wasn’t even offering its best.

[@kumarraj_2199]

@@Thetequilashooter1 That was the HAL FGFA that was based on the Su-57. Im talking about the serial production Su-57. It is true that the F-22 has more thrust that the Su-57 but thrust does not mean winning a dogfight. The Su-57 has 3D thust vectoring that goes any angle while the F-22 has only 2D which goes -90 +90 degrees. Thrust difference aint that far off and wont make any difference. Thrust vectoring meanwhile gives a real edge. With 3D thrust vectoring the Su-57 has better manueverability and AOA vs the F-22 Now radars. both the US and soviet union fielded AESA radars on ground systems. Russia has been using AESA radars for its S-300s and S-400s. Its not new tech and both countries already have that technology. It was the Japanese that first fielded AESA radar on fighter (Mitsubishi F-2) and other followed suit. If you really understand radars then you should know that AESA radar does not mean it more power than PESA. Russian N035 Irbis and N011 BARS are one of the most powerfull and capable PESA radars, perhaps even more powerfull than eary AESA radars. Even the russians are following the trend of AESA radars with thier Zhuk-A/AM and N036 Byelka to counter western AESA radars. Now weapons. You mentioned india. That was subjective. Even india's frontline fighters are Su-30MKI which was already refitted with AESA radars. You are talking about weapons, the latest variant of the AMRAAM AIM-120D has a max range of 160+km compare that to the R-37 hypersonic missile of the Su-57 with a max range of 400+km. US missiles looks like a peashooter compared to Russian ones. Well that is to be expected because the Russian are ahead in missile tech

[@Thetequilashooter1]

@@kumarraj_2199 3-D thrust does not give a significant advantage over 2-D with significant paddle movements. In fact, 3-D has a drawback because of its significant weight. Plus, thrust vectoring is especially useful at lower speeds, and the F-22’s power advantage gives it the ability to recover from high-g turns much better than the Su. Put it this way, in exercises against Malaysian Su-30s with 3D thrust vectoring, a F-18 came out on top three out of three times. Go to KZbinr Channel “The Ready Room” to see the video. And that’s against a clean Su without any ordnance. Yes, AESA has been around for awhile, but Russia doesn’t have it in any jet fighter in service. The US has put AESA in its fighters from over two decades ago and has a significant lead. It’s essential to have if a fighter wants to be considered 5th gen, and it’s why all nations are trying to switch to it. It’s main drawback is that it’s costly to develop. If a nation doesn’t have the manufacturing capabilities to build high tech equipment on mass scale efficiently, like Russia, it is going to struggle putting it in service on large scale. And AESA does offer significant advantages, including the ability to jam PESA radar. The MKI has Bars, which is PESA, not AESA.. The Zhuk radar was tried on the Mig-35 in the MMRCA tender , and it failed to reach the desired acquisition ranges. Since then it hasn’t been put on any fighter in service. The R-37 is a long range missile designed for taking out slow aircraft like an AWACS, not a maneuverable jet fighter. Quite honestly, Russia’s missiles are overhyped. When was the last time a Russian missile ever got a BVR kill? Try never. Russian missiles are not more advanced. For India’s Air Chief to state that the USA has the best weapons, radars and systems, when it wasn’t even offering its best says a lot. For India to have to go to Israel for BVR missiles after India’s last little skirmish with Pakistan says a lot.

[@FactkingAnkush....]

The descent ♥️ my favourite The descent- war is going on 😊❣️

[@nkwentimichael5207]

SU 57 is better

[@trevorrees7371]

A rare unbiased review. Well made vid

[@halukduztas6042]

It's the horse rider. But still seems 57 set the rules.

[@YoucefDZ3131]

Su 57 🔥🔥🔥

[@Ravelcs]

I've seen close-ups of the Su-57. I have to appreciate that they are still making the machines where so much of the work is forged by hand. Good old school that doesn't get influenced by modern trends. Bolts and nuts on the wings. It's charmingly retro. Where American high-tech is losing a bit of its soul, Russia is betting on decades of proven technology.

[@chrisavcs]

How can something “weigh 4 times less” than something else?

[@masonwilliamson5388]

by being made out of lighter materials?

[@lonelee5353]

because the info is wrong, the su 57 is heavier than the su27 by 8 tons

[@samluca1244]

SU-57 is good on paper and airshows, while the F-35 is already good in actual performance.

[@джентельменудачи-п2б]

В каких характеристиках? Ф 35 кусок говна.Су 57 как самолёты ВСУ уничтожил если ты не в курсе. Су 30 см самолёт поколения 4++ уже три раза уничтожил ф 35 два раза с лётчиками Италии и один раз с летчиком США. Только ты один не в курсе 🤣🤣🤣🤣. А Су 57 на голову лучше чем Су 30 см.

[@omwando1]

The y’all can’t even produce the su 57 we have more f35s and su 57 and y’all say it’s better I bet it can’t even drop bombs

[@davout5775]

@@джентельменудачи-п2б The Russians bots are now inventing propaganda. That's funny ngl 🤣🤣

[@sinanacar7564]

Su 57 looks prettier but f 35 has better technology and more stealth.

[@MrRoninGT]

Are you sure or so you want?

[@Ceausescu_Nicolae]

If Su 57 was a car,was the most beautifull car in the world!

[@johaneskyaruzi8789]

@@Ceausescu_Nicolae it's very dangerous plane out there. But, F35 is more.

[@Julio_Tortillia]

You should have compared SU-57 to F-22 not the F-35. The F-35 is a multirole aircraft that mostly would be used for CAS while the F-22 is a air superiority fighter specifically designed to secure air superiority much like the SU-57.

[@napobg6842]

F-35 is better air superiority fighter than both and pilots as well as real life exercises are proving just that. F-35 is coming on top in almost every scenario.

[@krzysztofkaruzo6899]

There is enough comparisons of F-22 and SU-57.

[@Stickman006]

@@napobg6842 the f22 raptor is better than the f35 in air to air combat.

[@Stickman006]

The su 57 is labelled as a multi role stealth fighter just as the f35

[@napobg6842]

@@Stickman006 debatable

[@englishpicnicbyisurunanaya4721]

SU 57 is very attractive. It can fly like an eagle 🦅

[@danmiller5881]

Russia can't properly keep tires inflated/maintained on their asault trucks...Is the 57 even combat ready?

[@penttikurkinen2464]

F-35 would win, Su-57 does not quite exist except three prototypes :)

[@JVRPhotographs]

perhaps you haven’t knowledge about a fighters jet😅😅😅

[@VladiMir-nq7km]

F 22 + F 35 = Su 57 Das ist einfach Mathematik

[@laynestaley4630]

F35🇺🇸💪🤜🇷🇺🇨🇳🇰🇵

[@anigmaYT]

F + F is 2F not su

[@joshuanelson7790]

The f35 is far beyond it in tech

[@joshuanelson7790]

@George Orwell 🙄

[@DaiosNashoba]

Good video thanks for staying accurate. People need to know how deadly the SU-57 platform actually is.

[@Grid88]

Thanks! I tried to remain impartial.

[@ginolorenzo4117]

It's not the jet, it's the pilot.

[@TRR23123]

I agree, jet also matters in some points, but pilot skills also count

[@malapetaka7030]

Yeah like motogp. The rider is more important

[@fork9001]

And a whole lot of luck

[@lonelee5353]

aight can an me262 beat an f16 then ?

[@aidanwilliams9452]

@@lonelee5353 F-22 stands no chance against the Wright flyer

[@AzanKhan-v5m]

I think su 57 is better than f 35.

[@anigmaYT]

You have a right to be wrong

[@vilim3897]

Right you are.

[@jeanjuleseulentin18]

The su57 has 12 prototypes and the f35 has 690 operational aircraft that 58 f35 per su57

[@mlrd6622]

ye but this is a 1 on 1 situation, doesn't mean that america is better.

[@hayatel2557]

No one asked you about numbers? When comparing the ratio needs to be 1:1. For your info F35 is a plane with lots of trouble. Program is cancelled and replaced by F/A-XX

[@OMR6468]

yup Russia can't even build these machines lol

[@anigmaYT]

​@@mlrd6622the only scenario su57 wins if it somehow get close enough without being spotted from over the horizon And the chache of that is 0

[@bricsofficial]

@@OMR6468 They build better lol 😂

[@echo-channel77]

Russian design has ALWAYS greatly exaggerate their claims. I would bet that at least a couple of the features which exceed the F-35/F-22 have severe restrictions. Not to say that the US does exaggerate too, however, the US tends to work out issues relatively quickly. Russian aircraft, not so much. What is disturbing is the cost difference. The US is spending more than ever, yet falling behind. Make it make sense!!!

[@XYZ-bi9eb]

the su-57 will win because the super expensive f-35 does not work.

[@stefanrz_]

Sure😂😂😂

[@Spudman9]

@@stefanrz_ 5 Felons vs one expensive ass raptor. raptor costs 206 milion meanwhile the Su-57 only 42 milion

[@universe627]

You can't determine which one would win until they actually engage in fight

[@SuperDinoFilms]

Or until the Russians are able to manufacture theirs

[@manjusumansiri5647]

Su 57

[@cemo3292]

Su57 wins easily

[@bayraktar112]

F35 is an attack aircraft while su 57 is air dominance one. They designed for different aims, roles. They both arent comparable, its like comparing Leopard tank with skorsky helicopter.

[@boakyeagyeman4793]

are they not all armed to the teeth? Don't bring a sword into a Gun fight okay?

[@bayraktar112]

@@boakyeagyeman4793 Tank and helicopter are both armed but for different roles, missions. Means, they arent comparable

[@niweshlekhak9646]

@@boakyeagyeman4793 F-22 Raptor is designed to be an air-superiority fighter so is Su-57, F-35 is a stealth fighter developed to go into enemy territory undetected and strike first. They have different purpose, if 12 Su-57 are coming towards US, US will send 12 F-22 Raptor not 12 F-35s.

[@daltonturner3113]

@@niweshlekhak9646 I agree, but we wouldn't need 12 😉

[@thejdgoodwin]

The primary difference will be in the pilots. The American pilot breaks ground, and flies into the wind. The Russian pilot breaks wind, and flies into the ground.

[@drumguy1960]

LOL

[@samluca1244]

SU-57 is pampered with superlatives in comparison videos. Advance avionics? And yet its navigation system is powered by a garmin technology...

[@hanabangirawan3291]

sukhoi still the leader , the real havoc for all enemies

[@vincivan8163]

If that is true, then why is the Su-27 the only Russian fighter jet to have a positive kill ratio? This is ignoring that 5 of those eliminations were MiG-29s. You’re ignoring 50 years of combat experience from Korea, Vietnam, etc. Even when facing against their American planes Russia still gets defeated. Operation Rimon 20 is a great example of this.

[@Rusich945]

@@vincivan8163 dude, don't kid yourself, the Koreans, Syrians and Vietnamese defeated the Americans, only thanks to Russian military specialists

[@hayatel2557]

​@@Rusich945 tell this dumb dude that the American didn't win the vietnamese war. The war stopped and send American soldiers in a very bad state of mind nearly mad. Most of the return soldiers committed suicide.

[@owenstrickland1645]

Honestly I would hope the F-35 would carry the win but I think the SU-57 has a better chance

[@lissettelopez8331]

Assuming the tech from the 57's tech has not been touted more than it actually can.

[@daltonturner3113]

The F22 is already superior to the SU-57 in every category, the F35 is literally undefeated against the F22 in simulated real life war games. This is not even close. The prototype not even tested in combat would get the ultimate smack down by either fighter.

[@13dma1rz]

Well, since the SU-57 is largely vaporware (they only have ten of them) I don't think it's a fight we have to worry about right now.

[@artiefakt4402]

Moreover... Russian weapons are usually half as good as they pretend them to be...

[@Schwiza1978]

I wouldn't be that sure about it. They say 16 and there are 12 different types of them. The same was thought for Russian tenks at the beggining of the war, but now nobody speaks about their number, because we just learnt that they are capable (but really, not in theory) to produce at least 90 in a month.

[@MoskusMoskiferus1611]

Su-57 is still young, it needs an experience to be better like MiG-23

[@AKlover]

In A dogfight, no question I would take the Sukhoi. If the F-35 is not "Running Slick" I'd still take the Sukhoi.

[@Thetequilashooter1]

Just curious, what maneuvers has the Su performed that you’ve seen that you think are impressive enough to defeat the F-35? The reason I ask is because from what I have seen is that the F-35 can pull more high turn g’s, both sustained and instant. The maneuvers you see the Su performing at airshows aren’t what you will find in real combat. What matters most are being able to perform high-g turns, and the ability to quickly recover from such turns with powerful engines. Going low and slow performing low-g maneuvers doesn’t work in reality.

[@julwiezdeghorz5089]

I will choose the Mig 31, armed with Kinzhal, i will strike directly on F35 air base. Lol😂

[@heatblast5794]

@@Thetequilashooter1 F35 can't even defeat an F16, what kind of stealth jet is that who didn't try to take down an F16 while F16 shoot down an F35 with aim 120D missile. That's a shame for F35 seriously investing a lot of money for these jet and has no great air superiority.

[@heatblast5794]

@@julwiezdeghorz5089 that's a great one

[@julwiezdeghorz5089]

@@heatblast5794 Indeed. Lol.

[@gorillaump5869]

We have the F-22 for the SU-57- F-35 is a strike fighter. But the F-35 can engage the Su-57 before the pilot even knows he's been engaged and fired on- defeating the purpose of a dog fight.

[@julwiezdeghorz5089]

Indeed you are right. But when two stealth aircraft facing each other, dogfight os inevitable.

[@oscarzheng9902]

@Ailen Gilean russia considers it a stealth fighter but its only stealthy in the front

[@YamadaAninao]

The su-57 cannot be called a stealth fighter, it only looks stealthy in design but not in practice, it doesn't even proper engine nozzles design, doesn't have a DSI, and doesn't even incorporate an S duct design for it's engine intake. In conclusion the F-35 with it's superior avionics and practical design that gives it stealth would destroy the SU-57 I'm a BVR fight 10/10 times

[@walidarab9018]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@youloh3458]

f22 is a failure. it was not sold and has already been discontinued. and all units have not been serviced for many years and they literally rotted, so there are so many videos of the f22 crash from scratch on the network, because due to lack of maintenance it turned into scrap metal. And the f35 is needed only for sale, the plane itself does not represent anything, but its advertising brainwashes people and they begin to deceptively think that it is good. what kind of idiot can even think that he is the 5th generation, or even better than a bitch, laughter

[@mayofficialsnhangthu7084]

Su-57 💪🏻1🌏

[@VGRLZN]

I don’t think so

[@Gunni1972]

Depends on which contest. You know, Tests show exactly what tests mean to show.

[@watcher63034]

F35. even in a dogfight, the F35 does not need to be directly behind the SU-57. The Su 57 may get it in a dogfight if it is behind it to start, but not very likely i would. There arent many Su57's and there are LOTS of F35's. Theory is one thing, but theoretically, Russia could take over the Ukraine in a week. How is that one going though?

[@Irishrebel092]

100 percent agree. these numbers don't take into account the pilots. if they did, then the various Ukrainian pilots that sparked the "Ghost of Kyiv" legend, wouldn't have been able to shoot down multiple SU-35's in 40 year old MIG 29's

[@siraevD]

@@Irishrebel092 Ukraine does not have a single confirmed aerial victory It's just a fact...

[@NYJGreatness]

The Russians always overrate their junk. I'm not sure why people still take what the Russians say seriously anymore. It's all junk. We see how they're performing in Ukraine.

[@NYJGreatness]

@@siraevD : And Russia still does not have air superiority lol. Russia makes a bunch of junk and the war in Ukraine shows us exactly that. Pathetic.

[@watcher63034]

@@siraevD And Russia has very few, unless you include shooting down their own jets! LOL

[@Viper6-MotoVlogger]

In the end, a pilot having a good day in an inferior aircraft can beat a pilot having a bad day in a superior aircraft.

[@Milvus_In_Excelsis]

Not true for the F22 and F35.

[@spartanx9293]

The thing is an F-35 pilots never going to be having a bad day

[@globalconfideration1254]

Theres no such thing as bad day if the battle will take place at night

[@Thetequilashooter1]

@@vetrocomvetrocom9737 I guess you better go tell all the nations that are buying it that you know more than their experts, and that they’re all making a big mistake. LOL, go away troll.

[@mmabagain]

We build parts for the F35 at work and it is awesome but it looks to me the SU57 might have the edge.

[@anigmaYT]

In dogfights

[@BRADNONEYA]

The F-35 wasn't built to be a special individual fighter jet. It was built to be a mass produced pack hunter. I'm a big fan of the program, but I'd still like to se the US build another 150 F-22 Raptors with upgraded open architecture software. I don't buy for 1 second that the US won't need a true air superiority fighter, with China on the rise. Also, with Japan and European countries developing Gen 5, and 6 tech, you have to stay ahead, because your friend one day, and become your foe tomorrow. The SU-57 is an awesome plane. It's main problem is the lack of production capacity, but that could change rapidly if Russia cuts a deal with some of it's friend nations. If they were willing to sell them to China, I'd bet China could help them produce 100 in a year.

[@davout5775]

Who said that the US doesn't need air superiority fighters? It's definitely not the US. Otherwise they won't be buying more and more F-15EX units. It is completely pointless to make F-22 5.5 gen fighter when the 6th gen is right around the corner. Within less than 10 years according the US estimates they could field a 6th gen fighter with next gen radar, engines, stealth coating, open architecture for easier improvements and drone swarm capabilities. Also according to the US the fighter is on time. Given all that there is absolutely no point in restarting the F-22 program with all the new technologies and improvements to make it a more recent machine. It would take time and money which could be otherwise spared for the 6th gen program. Not to mention F-22 is being used for testing of new technologies like engines, radars and coatings. There are even pictures of modified F-22 likely using 6th gen technologies for testing purposes. SU-57 looks great but inside is rotten. You don't need to be part of the program to know that. They took so many years to develop something the Americans had for decades and they are still struggling to make the so important engines for that plane. The Americans are already looking forward to replace the F-135 with the XA-100 adaptive cycle engine. Keep in mind that Izdelye-30 even on paper is not as good as F-135 or even its older brother the F-119 in F-22. Russia is also struggling to develop a powerful but also compact AESA radar for the jet. The 2+ decades old APG-77 has more T/R units than the radar inside SU-57. We know that because we have pictures of both radars. Even the smaller APG-81 has more T/R units. I can't even imagine the new APG-85 - the replacement of the APG-81 which would also be built with GaN semiconductors. In other words Russia is falling behind rather quickly. That's to be expected. The Russian IT sector is around 33 billion dollars. That nothing! In comparison the US IT sector is 1.8 trillion dollars! The difference is so massive that both cannot even be remotely compared. Russia is forced to import components from abroad because it simply doesn't have the capacity to make these products. The biggets problem I believe is with the semiconductors. They can make only very basic designs. You can look at some processors like the Baikal. Their latest BE-M1000 is close to performance to low-end smartphone CPU based on 28nm fabrication from TSMC. And it is not like it is based on Russian core desings. It is actually based on ARM core cortex core desing. So basically the Russians can design semiconductors only based on off-the-shelf designs from the market.

[@bradgrand79]

The F 35 is very underrated and should win this fight in BVR until the merge, then the su57 is favored. Another consideration is training, American pilots get over double the stick time as their Russian counterparts do.

[@_samtakoi_]

F35 уступает по дальности атаки и радару, это означает, что никакого боя даже может и не быть, F35 будет уничтожен еще до того, как он поймет что встретился с врагом))

[@fuffoon]

The SU-57 is fearsome but its 5 prototypes and so far just hype and paper stats.

[@Valettam]

3 prototypes and 5 combat ready 8 more in the building right now

[@DeadMetaler]

Like most things in ruzzia.

[@Fah1994ytcan]

@@DeadMetaler russia is winning bro

[@DeadMetaler]

@@Fah1994ytcan on paper

[@LevBarsky]

@@Valettam 10 prototypes and 11 series production aircraft already built (I believe that includes the first of the series that crashed during testing)

[@naumchejanevski2375]

They are both good ,it comes to the capable hands of the pilots.

[@ghotridr9550]

And FATE

[@Threaldaveoss]

It really doesn't though. There is a high chance the F35 will detect and launch me Missiles at the SU-57 at a far greater distance than the SU-57 could radar detect the F35, but we haven't seen it in action yet so we can't say for sure.

[@anigmaYT]

I meanf35 computer smarter than any pilot

[@bricsofficial]

@@anigmaYT F-35 without being stealthy is far better than your F-35 😂

[@andrewbear1159]

690 vs 12 . Who will win? Very difficult question !!!

[@ulikemyname6744]

I'm more inclined to believe F-35 will win such an engagement. The technological sophistication is really a very arguable question and the findings we made in Ukraine are priceless. We see that Russia is very dependable on foreign nations for most of the high tech gadgets we see for example in their own drones. Sensors, cameras heck even GPS guidance is based on foreign companies and those components made around the world but Russia. I highly doubt that Russia can't make the easy stuff but they are sophisticated enough to go head to head with F-35 which is the latest and greatest from America which is considered to be the most technologically advanced nation in the world. Ofc everything regarding both fighters is pure speculation because we have very little official info from both sides and even the info we get is kinda only leading to the answer but not exactly. Yet if we take into consideration the things we know for sure to be true then things are not looking good for Russia and tbh I thing the situation is even more rotten then what we can see. Now after the sanctions imposed the situation will be even more desperate.

[@blasty137]

Everyone is saying that the Su-57 would win a dogfight, while that's certainly true it's also very unlikely that they would engage in a dogfight, nearly all air encounters in the last several decades were resolved well beyond visible range. Also, the Su-57 is not stealth by any means.

[@MrRoninGT]

Are you a sofa expert?😎

[@subasthapa4839]

@@MrRoninGT very likely

[@sj4632]

Liar

[@kingqw3rty-_-982]

@@subasthapa4839 and I guess you aren’t

[@Khaledf]

Su57 looks like F22. I think Americans already know its design. I think F35 is designed to win. I vote for F35

[@Lucia-sy7le]

Can I use a mail-in ballot for my vote on this? I live in Chicago and it's kind of dangerous for me to leave my building.😅🤣😂🤣😅🤣😂🤣😅🤣😂

[@johnbodman4504]

I would much rather be sitting in the su-57.