F-4E Phantom GUNPODS & Mig-21 Furball Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ Thank you guys for watching and if you have any ideas for future videos please put them in the comment section below, big Thank you to Heatblur for allowing us to have a sneak peek at the F-4 here, thank you all again , much Love.

[@stevensutton2252]

Day 127 f4 phantom vs tiger shark vs f14 tomcat ❤❤❤❤

[@RosalindMullins-i7l]

Good idea🎉

[@numberyellow]

NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs SU-57, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs NGAD, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx

[@firebald2915]

The key ring wobbling @5:29 is pretty cool realism. Fun stuff, GS.

[@Zephirot080]

Dude, loving the F-4 content you have been putting out lately

[@Ifoughtpiranhas]

GS read the comments the past couple of days and said, "You guys want guns? Fine. May I introduce the F-4 Phantom gunship, my dudes!"

[@JustinMartino]

ROFL I legit thought he was going to dogfight with those.

[@Tobbzn]

WWI era handguns out of the cockpit when

[@TheCobra114-o5e]

The gunniest gun phantom gun

[@Tenchigumi]

​@@Tobbzn back in the days when drive-bys were airborne.

[@martyadams5551]

Y'all should read up on Chico the Gunfighter from Vietnam

[@loogul]

Bring three gun pods, employ two of them. Almost commit fox-4 (read: lithobraking) by way of experimental rudder-controlled gun dispersion technique (DOD approved). Jettison gun pods into low earth orbit (to be recovered later by Gemini crew). Enter furball (some of that pilot shit). Egress at lawnmower altitude. 7/10 absolutely fantastic mission. Remember next time that landing the plane is completely optional. Welcome to floggit, captain.

[@billcedarheath387]

From my real world 1980s experience with the F-4E, we didn’t use the SUU-16 20mm gun pod at all. We didn’t even do familiarization training. It wasn’t in our mission profile at that point. The 20mm pods were a C and D model thing. We did have the 30mm GPU-5 and when we did fly them we had them centerline for ground attack. One time we put them on the centerline and both inboards. Let’s just say the one time testing was enough to know... one on the centerline was enough. 🤣 Also, the Phantom is most happy over 400kts and under angels 20.

[@thedyingmeme6]

"Angels 20" is altitude at what? 20,000 feet??

[@chadirby6216]

I worked on E-models in the early 80s, and our MSgt had spent a long time working on them by then. He said that it was possible - technically - to put at least FIVE of those pods on an F-4E. You had to do some hotwiring to get them to fire simultaneously, but it had been done as a test. Apparently, the pilot had some Words about flying the plane with all pods + the centerline going at once, and it was never tried again. (...and you could have put a sixth one on...) The same MSgt also mentioned that they'd done a hotrod version of the F-4 once, with modified engines and a lot of aerodynamic tweaking (including a radome swap for a metal one) and ran it up to almost Mach 3 - for a few seconds. Again, never tried again.

[@billcedarheath387]

@@thedyingmeme6 Yup. “Angels” is altitude in thousands of feet. “Cherubs” is altitude in hundreds of feet. Angels 9 = 9000 feet Cherubs 9 = 900 feet.

[@hoilst265]

When you put the other two pods on, were you trying to make a Mig-27?!?

[@chadirby6216]

@@hoilst265 Yeah, that was the end result. Not a pleasant situation.

[@CelticSemperTyrannis]

So you mean to tell me I forget where my M4 is for like half a day and the Post gets shutdown, but air force just dumps 3 gunpods over enemy territory?

[@M167A1]

Just be glad you didn't lose your NVGs

[@yowie0889]

The pilot crashes his jet: "Don't worry Sir, we'll get you another". The Tanker bends his main gun barrel "Don't worry Sir, we'll get that fixed". The grunt loses his bush hat "Charge that man!"

[@titaniummechanism3214]

They weren't missing, the Airforce knew exactly where they were. In enemy hands, no need to search for them ;)

[@afroamasiaca]

Not to mention questionable serviceability

[@twocubez7848]

Worst thing to hear in the Army on a field op: “Hey man, can I borrow your NVGs to find my rifle?”

[@barbaros99]

1:50 - Ok, I know you said you love flying low in this thing but come on my dude! You're trespassing on gopher turf.

[@Chris_Hood]

Trying to avoid AAA fire only to get ambushed by a rogue COW 🤣 maybe!

[@bjornhellgate3985]

​@@Chris_HoodViet cow

[@Andrew-13579]

I was thinking: Damn, the video is smooth! I want his computer specs. “Are we going in at treetop level?” “No, at tree-TRUNK level!” “We’re going in at prairie-dog level!” I don’t even fly the Huey that low at 110 knots! 😂 He literally can’t wait to get a Buccaneer in DCS.

[@R005t3r]

Hunting gophers apparently.

[@Chris_Hood]

@@R005t3r in the immortal words of the philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre, _au revoir, gopher!_

[@furball277]

01:52 casually setting up the aircraft while flying lower than tree top level @400kts 😅

[@rvnerd7671]

Jester sounded like he may need a change of pants after getting out of the aircraft.😂

[@EpicureMammon]

Hey, at least he didn't eject!

[@chenrayen]

The whole time in defense I was thinking “common GS do some of that pilot shit!” That was so thrilling

[@therealkillerb7643]

You dropped the gun pods? That's coming out of your salary!

[@Andrew-13579]

Everyone watching the video at that point : 😮😧😱🫣

[@windsorcorbin1005]

Call sign "Poncho" for F4s in Vietnam that used multiple gun pods for ground support

[@JoeKier7]

I was going to give someone grief for a gunpod on an F-5E since it has an internal gun. Until I saw the THREE pods. Oh, baby!!!

[@stevemc6010]

F-5E only has two rather obsolete 20MMs, it would actually make sense to sling a SUU-23 underneath it Except that uses up one of its very few hard points lol

[@Leon1Aust]

Aussies ordered the F-111C in early 1960s, and we were awaiting for delivery due in 1968, but due to the F-111 wings departing in flight on the early models, along with an extended wait for rectification the US offered a loan of up to a few squadrons worth of new F-4E Phantoms into the mid 1970s. The Aussies were so impressed with the Phantom, that an official request by the RAAF to the current political government was to keep the Phantoms with the new F-111C. I heard it was a very loud performer at air-shows, wish I could of seen one when I was very young kid but this DCS simulator is as close as you can get.......unbelievable creativity in this sim.

[@krismurphy7711]

Real World F4s were loud and awesome. Used to watch them do overhead breaks to landing at Miramar growing up

[@jimbenson3926]

At the airshows at Townsville they use to come in low and strafe the airfield, simulated.

[@mikemontgomery2654]

I’ve been fortunate enough to see four operators of Phantoms, 3 of them flying. The Luftwaffe, USAF and Turkish AF were the flying operators, with the last one being RAF, in a museum. You would never forget the smoke.

[@stuartroberts5629]

When the T-birds flew F4s, I couldn't hear for 2 days...

[@svenjonsson9]

Man, that was a hell of a fight to stay alive, and it just goes to show you, DO NOT GIVE UP! You got to go home to fight another day, and the MIG 21 did not!

[@scalpelsledge]

Your videos are getting better and better, that intro, production value through the roof!!! Love this channel.

[@mdk3787]

2:10 now this is podracing

[@TheMailmanOfSteel]

You went from "not using the F4E cannon at all" to "I got guns for each of ya'!" Nice.

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

*_"I'll be your huckleberry"_* - Doc 'F4E' Holliday _(probably)_

[@CapitanoAraym]

I wanna Jester saying something alike "GS, please: the F4E is a "jet", not a "lawnmower"" as soon it flies so low :P

[@dystopianlucidity4448]

575K, it’s really awesome having watched your channel and celebrating 80k. Every minute has been a pleasure.

[@dogsnmotorcycles]

The F-4 is the jet I used to see as a kid, but didn't see them much when I was in the USAF. Guard and Reserve units flew them. When I was a young Airman, I used to hear the older guys talk about duct taping AAA damaged F-4's in Vietnam and they just kept flying.

[@texasknight5175]

Probably beer cans instead of duct tape...

[@thomasfarley5070]

Thanks!

[@Lemon0Tart]

shoutout to that MiG-21 pilot, great fight!

[@JonNo86]

That was easily one of your most epic and cinematic dogfights in a while! I too really thought that Mig-21 was going to be the end of you. The level of anxiety I had while you were flying UNDER tree-top level while setting up the aircraft...Jester isn't the only one that needs a new pair of shorts when he lands!

[@staceymeador87]

This was my favorite episode. I thought GS shaking him off his tail was next level. Loved it. Had me screaming at my phone.

[@LanceRyley]

When I was a kid, the local Air National Guard flew F-4s out of Bradley. My dad would take me to the airport and we'd watch them do touch and go's, then land and deploy the chute... really amazing to watch. Later that guard unit changed to A-10s which were impressive in their own way, and now I think it's converted to an Army National Guard unit with a couple of Chinooks.

[@MrMorden00]

In Vietnam the original F-4Cs did not have an internal gun. The 366th Tactical Fighter Wing got the idea to use a centerline 20mm gun pod in A-A mode, and they scored several MiG kills that way. The squadron got the nickname "The DaNang Gunfighters" as a result. I would really like to see you do a video to replicate this, using the 20mm centerline pod in A-A use instead of the internal F-4E gun. I'm sure the aiming will be more challenging and the drag of the pod won't help either. I plan to do this after I pick up the DCS F-4E myself.

[@frankbizzoco1954]

Awh i thought you were gonna shred some bandits with all that 20mm lol

[@texasknight5175]

Same.

[@THX-1138.]

Even knowing that this is a Sim I was stressing that low level approach to target. Glad there weren't any fire hydrants in your way.

[@PolarisOssifragus]

In multiplayer seasoned Mig21 pilots are going to have a field day fighting inexperienced F4s

[@stark5353]

Just like in Vietnam.

[@TitterpigRancher]

Calling the pilots of the Mig-21 "experienced" vs. the Phantom pilots is being generous.

[@HereticsRight]

@@TitterpigRancher The Mig-21 module has been out for ages, they'll definitely have an advantage while all the new Phantom pilots get up to speed.

[@ajkulac9895]

As soon as F4 pilots figure out to take the fight into vertical MiGs are done. Don't do circle fights and scissors against a MiG-21, always go for a high yo-yo to stay behind him but keep your energy up. Thank me later.

[@alo1637]

@@ajkulac9895 oh dear you are going to be surprised.. all that talk with taking the vertical vs mig 21s is all Vietnam talk. not the same mig ;)

[@kelvaris1]

Dude, that's some serious nape-of-the-Earth flying.

[@StealthCloudchaser]

Great dogfight there GS, Amazing defensive flying from your part.

[@TDE1593]

The gun run flying through your own tracers! That was awesome!

[@Andrew-13579]

“And that’s when I shot myself down.”

[@SeaWasp]

I don't think I noticed it in other fighters, but at least in the F-4 it's so cool to see a fast jet being flown with analog knobs, and an analog timer for your bombs. That was the first real thing I noticed in the cockpit when you started flying it!

[@rattleheadx]

Spicy furball! In other news, I was watching a Task & Purpose video yesterday about the F-22 upgrades they're planning and saw that he used footage from GS as some b-roll. Neat!

[@brucehearn2621]

Heatblur, if you see this, nice job. You even modeled the auxiliary intake doors. Now, if only I could spot the strengthening strap underneath.

[@michaelhartsburg3090]

Sweet! Worked Avionics on the F-4 a life time ago…. She turned jet fuel into smoke and noise ! Thanks!

[@timsullivan4566]

VERY exciting! Thanks, GS!

[@dmitrynova]

i'm liking the intros more and more! that shot with the canopy closing was a really nice touch! and since i almost always watch to the end, i really like landings for some reason, gives a feeling of relief the plane got home safely 🙂

[@bomkata]

I have heared of low flying but didn't realize you put a lawnmower on the bottom of the plane do you do hedges also

[@Manuel_Wlisses]

Your videos are incredible and immersive! Great job, man!

[@__GaryHarris]

That was one hell of a dogfight. I was waiting for Jester to say come on do some of that Pilot shit lol. Great job.

[@mjtpaiq3998]

growling you’re officially have the best music taste ever for that kind of videos

[@renevanderkraats3811]

Wow. Although a favorite of mine, I always pictured the Mig 21 as a low maneuverable missile delivery system. Seems it can hold it's own in a dogfight too. Impressive fight, that was really tense!

[@midnightbluevt]

That Fishbed at the end had me genuinely tense. Your POV of the NOE ingress made me kinda uncomfortable, too, but damn, that last fight, especially with Jester shitting enough bricks to build a castle the whole time...

[@sonar357]

I was stationed in Misawa, JN back when the JASDF still flew the F4 and those planes are LOUD! But, so freaking cool to see in flight. It just LOOKS powerful

[@LanceRomanceF4E]

I flew the F-D in RTU at Homestead AFB with the gun pod. Good for staffing, but was glad to transition the F-4E. The one with the gun.

[@robsmith6406]

Bro is a phantom veteran now

[@jmaster1969]

That was one impressive dog fight glad you was able to pull it off

[@RoosterAbarth]

The General Electric GAU-13/A AKA the GEPOD30 were an awesome addition to any fighter that could carry them!

[@tsufordman]

This was my favorite configuration on Wings Over Vietnam. Universal Loadout for ground targets and MIGs.

[@geonerd]

I was wondering how many gun pods you could carry! A little disappointed you didn't use the gun pods in A2A mode! ;) Can you please demonstrate the bomblet dispensers. (The pods that drop hundreds of mini-bombs out the rear.)

[@michaelj4009]

That was one hell of a dogfight with that mig. I really enjoyed this one.

[@josebrown5961]

Okay now I love that the Phantom has gun pods available. But did pilots in the 60s just throw away gun pods? They are heavy but are they that heavy?

[@TheHarvHR]

They wouldn't have thrown them away ideally, same with the bomb racks that GS jettisons in other videos. That being said they both *could* be thrown off in the event that you need the performance edge in a dogfight. That all being said, while the Phantom could carry 3 gunpods it was very rarely done. The gunpods were not well liked, they were inaccurate and vibrated a lot, and caused a lot of weight and drag. On the Phantoms with the integrated gun they weren't often used, and the ones without the vulcan the single pod underneath was used out of necessity but not because it was liked

[@paulhiakita251]

What a great fighter of its time the f4 was. It confirmed that just missiles was a mistake and that it's a must to have guns back in play.

[@DoradoFever]

An even "brrrrtier" Phantom... Hell yes!

[@ST-vg1gc]

I'm diggin the wheels up to wheels down format, GS. Great video!

[@bluesman260971]

Triple gun pods?? Bring the pain 😂😂

[@murph3194]

I tell ya what, I watch every one of these vids put out and it's been a min since I heard a bit of panic in that voice. lol Well done getting out of that last pursuit bud.

[@benn454]

GS to the ground crew mounting the gun pods: More. More! MOAR!

[@Thekhajjah]

Love seeing these. The F-4 was my first aircraft love. Later worked on F-14s. Would love to see some fighter wing action from both sides

[@polarbear2697]

Perfect! Broke down waiting for a replacement vehicle, just what I needed exactly when I needed it!

[@hawk947]

So close to the deck you almost are taxing there lol

[@rileydavis6762]

That intro was amazing! Great video GS

[@case.98]

i like how the phantom of the first module to get the mirrors with raised canopy right

[@abstractedaway]

11:15 Hey, go easy on Jester, I don't see him hitting eject on you this time! 😂

[@Avera9eWh1teShark6]

You should consider the MIG Killers campaign by Reflected Simulations when it releases. It's a course meant to emulate the TOPGUN School during Nam and how Navy pilots learned how to properly dogfight in the Phantom.

[@mikeb.3918]

Didnt see any tracer or smoke from the centerline gun pod. Is this just a graphics glitch, or was it not armed?

[@MrDeelightful]

Man, this was the most thrilling DCS chase I've seen in a minute! The tracers audibly whipping by you on either side close to the end was wild. Do you have cinematic cuts of your videos anywhere, like Patreon or something? The way you started this one with the take-off really gave me that vibe, and with how exciting the rest of the chase was I think this would be a great candidate for something like that.

[@Rjelmiles]

I developed a gravel rash watching your run into target. Great dogfight at the end. I really enjoy your videos.

[@Inazuma68]

„I also fight Jester who is freaking out“ - that was the best 😂😂

[@vvtli808]

This reminds me Hawk Hunter from the “Wingman” books and the outrageous upgrades he did to his Falcon. SIX PACK!

[@LtDavidB312]

I remember reading somewhere that there was a group (can’t remember if it was just a flight or a larger number) of F4s that flew with three gun pods doing CAS and ground attack, calling themselves the Laredo Highway Patrol. Don’t know how much truth there was to it though.

[@Dv087]

How would you like to be a fly in that tree. Or better yet a bird. " My feathers got sucked off & I don't know why "

[@sogerc1]

There's two kinds of scissoring I enjoy watching. The other one is this 😉

[@Power5]

oh damn, you already did it. Just commented about this in another of your videos. Back at Elgin in the 60s they supposedly mounted 15! working 7.62 gunpods to a phantom. I want to see that mod.

[@Cybernaut76]

Just a minute or two before 13:34 I started thinking "Get the heck out of there before the enemy gets really pissed off and reacts more forcefully to your presence and actions". Seems like we have similar thoughts.

[@valuanalyst]

Coolest F-4 loadout ever.

[@MrHrannsi]

I guess GS forgot he quit his Farming Simulator session 30 minutes before filming this 😊

[@Jahanbakht1977]

A gun fight in your Phabulous Phantom against mig-21/23/25/ or even mig-29 would be challenging and pretty AWESOME 👍🏻😎

[@TheSandCats]

I love the intros you've been doing recently!

[@therocinante3443]

LOL GS took the comments to heart and flew with a meme loadout. Hahahahahaha

[@MrSwayzZ]

The phantom is a beautiful plane,love looking at it

[@poppopdadski7559]

That's my favorite paint job...F4 is a monster.

[@MrMyu]

Did the centerline gun pod not fire? I didn't see smoke or tracers from it.

[@pancudowny]

Those GE J-790's look like they need the burner upgrade... seeing how they're being their classic, smoky selves during low-speed flight.

[@lewiemotorsports3616]

Those gun pods violated those ground targets 😂 but man that mig21 was scary, tryna dodge him and the AAA Wizzing by at the same time, man ive never seen anyone drive the phantom like that 🔥

[@mhult5873]

That was a mission, strafe-run and dogfight to be proud of! Thank you again for, as always, another great video! My wish is to see the simulated F4 Phantom get hit, shot down and/or other non-victory ending :) I´m so curious of how the plane looks when going down, all the way to the ground. And how the simulation looks when ejecting. Br //M

[@Ulysses-fy4sq]

As some young, terminally online Tik-Tok-troglodyte might say, it's your Phantom era and I'm here for it.

[@subjectc7505]

The Phantom can really pack a punch, it would be cool if they made the Terminator variant. We'll have another weapons bus next to the Eagle.

[@JC-uk8lp]

Loader: “How much 20 mike mike do you want?” GS: “All the 20 mike mike”

[@mdu2112]

Actually 2 large or 3 medium drum sets depending how you cut it.

[@PhantomP63]

At those low altitudes, the biggest threat isn’t a Fan Song, it’s songbirds in your fans

[@bigcomputerman4482]

Excuse me, did I just see 3 M61's? Are you trying to shoot down a mothership from the galactic empire?

[@RoosterAbarth]

Those are GAU-13's, GEPOD30's.

[@hunter35474]

Technically 4 M61's if you count the internal gun.

[@bigcomputerman4482]

@@RoosterAbarth 13's have 4 barrels

[@RoosterAbarth]

@@bigcomputerman4482 Very good, I stand corrected. But I still want to see an A-10 with 4 GEPOD30's

[@hubble37]

One very exciting sortie in the F-4E Phantom especially at the end!

[@smogdanoff7053]

Will be really interesting to see the inevitable AJS 37 vs F-4E video

[@jedimasterjoe5386]

That dogfight chase was crazy! Call it a fox Chase!

[@allanonyoutube]

"Say you're addicted to M61 without saying you're addicted to M61." **Using it to all pylons available**

[@jasonmorahan7450]

That actually had me on the edge of my seat against that MiG-21 😂

[@Taurevanime]

Nice flight. But since those pods were initially developed to give the early phantom a gun to shoot planes with, how about trying a flight with an early Phantom and the centerline pod to go MiG hunting?

[@christopherz1994]

Finally gunfight in F4! Have been waiting this for long time