F-4X Super Phantom

[@ovaldreamx4397]

The most beautiful flying brick ever. It's simple, I see F4, I hit like

[@rtyrsson]

It certainly is a beautiful airplane.

[@RedTail1-1]

2009 called... They want their meme back...

[@cpt_bill366]

Hot rods of the sky! I love how engineers from the 50's - 70's were all about looking at every design and saying, "Hey, we can make it go faster!"

[@No_Deal-fergetaboutit]

Thanks for the RF coverage. I sent this to my dad. He got his 100 Missions N Vietnam in an RF-4C out of Udorn. Told me a ton about how the TFR, side radar, and cameras were employed. After that tour he flew border missions just outside of N Korean airspace using the giant recon pod you showed. He commented that it was considered high risk because that the N Koreans were completely unpredictable then, and they might actually shoot you down. The Israeli RF details will be very interesting to him. Thanks again!

[@SaintChesty]

@@No_Deal-fergetaboutit Give your Dad my best. Mine flew D models with the 435th. The Red River Rats fly again!

[@Akilius]

This channel is a treasure

[@wafflesnfalafel1]

super cruise at 2.4? holy cow

[@oldfrend]

i find that hard to believe. even with stronger engines the f4's aerodynamics were so compromised it would need crazy thrust to achieve that. even modern jets with better aero and much stronger engines can't achieve that.

[@McRocket]

Fascinating. Thank you. ☮

[@gun_maniac]

I love this channel so much

[@mauricio-wq5lu]

This was well worth my time!

[@MrMyu]

How did General Dynamics have such a large role with the plane? They built the camera pod, but McDonnell Douglas designed and built the Phantom.

[@SosaBoii-t1c]

@@MrMyu When this aircraft was being designed, McDonnell Douglas was going out of business or closed already

[@Csharpflat5]

McDonnell Douglas where deep in the design stages of the F-15 starting in 1968 and the F-18 in 1974 and the AV8B in 1975, along with a lot of NASA work in building 101. general Dynamics had excess capacity after slow down of F1-11A at that time. St. Louis employed around 30,000 at that time but where swamped with work.

[@ziggystardust4627]

@@SosaBoii-t1c Could you please not contribute misinformation? This is completely inaccurate.

[@LRRPFco52]

@@SosaBoii-t1c Uh, McDonnell Douglas was the biggest fighter manufacturer for the USAF and allies at the time, and remained so into the 1980s. F-4E was still in production, F-15 was in production, and F/A-18 hadn't yet gone into production.

[@plumtube01]

Great videos as always. Way better researched and presented than all the AI crap we are now getting. Keep up the good work.

[@steveshoemaker6347]

Thank you for this excellent F-4 video..... Old F-4 Phantom pilot Shoe🇺🇸

[@sailordude2094]

Super Phantom, I'm in. Thanks for the video!

[@TROOPERfarcry]

1:40 - Hey, look! That wing has a plane attached to it!

[@einfisch3891]

Nice work, your vids on these strange late cold war oddities are my favorite.

[@1lentWT]

perfect time to upload for an australian

[@Peter.A-A]

Awsome. Another video about the F-4

[@AllenRussell-e3r]

Lovely fighter, to most beautiful fighter of all time. Specially when it was flying by Robin Olds

[@rtyrsson]

Robin Olds was one of America's finest pilots.

[@gwramim4807]

F16xl, f20 and this 🥲

[@Csharpflat5]

McDonnell Douglas where deep in the design stages of the F-15 starting in 1968 and the F-18 in 1974 and the AV8B in 1975, along with a lot of NASA work in building 101. general Dynamics had excess capacity after slow down of F1-11A at that time. St. Louis employed around 30,000 at that time but where swamped with work.

[@265justy]

McDonnell Douglas may have been deep on the F-15 then ...But not the F/A-18...Northrop barely had the YF-17 in the air in 1974 to take on the YF-16...The F/A-18 in 1974 was not even on the drawing boards...It was all about the YF-17 as such...

[@cookingshowchannel_01]

Excellent.

[@sohrabroozbahani4700]

F15 is basically a death Ray machine, the radar is so good, if it sees you you are pretty much undone.

[@DarkRendition]

I never knew about this. Aussies make the best airplane ✈️ docs.

[@robertjames302]

Have i missed something? Mcdonald Douglas built the phantom not general dynamics. MD merged with Boeing. Why would GD be involved with the super phantom????

[@toddfleury7324]

Did you do a simple search before posting?

[@tinglydingle]

4:37 Supercruise at Mach 2.4? Only one aircraft has ever supercruised at > Mach 2 and that's Concorde. I don't believe for a second that a J79 powered Phantom could supercruise at Mach 2.4.

[@cjmanson5692]

If the airframe and engine were given the right modifications, it could.

[@tinglydingle]

@@cjmanson5692 Lol which modifications? The Phantom is a disaster aerodynamically speaking, requiring numerous modifications over its development and later lifespan just to make it flyable. There is no chance a Phantom could ever have supercruised at Mach 2.4.

[@cjmanson5692]

​@tinglydingle The modifications made to the airframe, as stated, include a larger tail area, larger air intakes, and new control surfaces, among other improvements. EDIT: Hell, you can find a picture of the design that has a comparison between the normal F-4E on one side and the F-4X modifications on the other at 11:08.

[@tinglydingle]

@@cjmanson5692 Be specific, because none of those except maybe variable inlets have any bearing on supercruising, and inlets alone aren't gonna take an aircraft that can't supercruise to one that's the fastest supercruising aircraft ever made.

[@cjmanson5692]

If you bothered to read that addendum to my previous comment, I left a timestamp for that comparison picture, which includes a variable inlet on the larger air intake side. I'm no engineer, I will admit that much. But I am a historian at my local air museum, so there's that.

[@joespeed1952]

My kind of plane, baby!

[@BENKYism]

For a brick it flew pretty good

[@lucasokeefe7935]

General Dynamics knows what the ladies like

[@MrMaximkozin]

Super cruise at M2.4 / M2.7, and Max speed of M3.2, now that was optimistic, Mig-25 disintegrated at those speeds

[@CallsignEskimo-l3o]

The Probe & Drogue refuelling adapter fitted to the F-4E looks quite awkward. It's interesting this type of refuelling would have been standard on USN & USMC aircraft, but the IAF procured the boom refuelling model instead.

[@patrickgriffitt6551]

Just your thumbnail doesnt show the highly modified intakes and conformal tanks originally designed. At least they were covered in the text. Good research.

[@Jason-7212]

The RF-4ES is not the only upgraded and modernized version of the F-4 the Israelis have developed.

[@胡睿-u3t]

这视频做的真好

[@paulricketts1089]

....there was a "ENHANCED Phantom" model. I don't know if it ever was produced. I read about it in "Jayne's". With a top speed in excess of Mach 2.5 and super cleaned up aerodynamically, it sounded like a winner........right up there with the F-15........

[@maestromecanico597]

Add to this a program by Boeing to improve the F4 that raised the same ire from the (then) F-teen builders who saw improving the Phantom as a potential distraction.

[@jaredvetter7705]

Are you using DCS for some of the footage? looks great

[@JimmyShields-z2h]

Makes me wonder if F111 off hands for Israel AF especially RF version of RAAF F111?

[@stannxd-g2m]

Now I didnt know that!

[@foxykaruptsock3213]

When you spot Heatblurs F-4E as B-roll....thats ma girl..and shes a handful but fun to fly.

[@ypaulbrown]

Gee wiz’s, I sure thought McDonnell made the Phantom, Later McDonnell Douglas in St Louis, not General Dynamics

[@treygates4636]

Whats the intro song

[@DanielCPhillips]

IAI had the capacity to build their own reconnaissance version of the Canberra Bomber. They could have purchased standard models from either the UK or the USA and done the custom work to allow it to fly at higher altitudes. Why didn't they? While the installation of a new custom wing and engine upgrade may require meticulous attention to detail, it is not particularly complex.

[@waleedhalawani1076]

Please make a video about the kurnas 2000, was it related to this program?

[@jrbeeler4626]

Why wouldn't General Dynamics start with their F-111F? It was complex, but the F model was faster than the F-4 and had tons of room for things like water tanks. The variable geometry would have helped too, and GD certainly knew more about their own plane. The timing would have been good too -- the F-111 program was winding down, and the F-16 started out as a small effort.

[@edwardd9702]

Could they really test run the engine in afterburner for 40hrs?

[@bhhbcc4573]

McDonnell Douglas methinks.

[@toddfleury7324]

Did you do a simple search before posting?

[@T.E.S.S.]

9:24 - "pragmatics" does not mean what you think it means

[@jjojo2004]

With the F-4X approaching speeds of 2.7 to 3.0 Mach, won’t the plane melt? An SR-71 or A-12 is made out of titanium to handle these speeds…..a Phantom is not. 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@largo6644]

An all aluminium - made plane, as the F-4 was, really could sustain this promised M2.7 speed? (and reach top speeds about M3+) I remember MiG-25 wings, steel made ...

[@Doomer35]

The SR-71 and Mig-25 used titanium alloy to keep the exterior from melting at mach 3. Was this F-4 designed with that in mind?

[@jimfarmer7811]

I think the specs quoted are complete BS.

[@ravissary79]

Wait... so if you add... water, to 50s turbojets you can nearly catch an sr71 and supercruise at almost double the speed of an f22? Doesnt sound real.

[@h.rdennett4036]

The surprised that Israel received this type of aircraft and advanced reconnaissance systems For use in that low relevance region ?

[@06colkurtz]

They had to make it left hand drive and run on Aus $. Did not work

[@FirstDagger]

2:04 Why are you using an F-4D mod for DCS? Israel flew the F-4E. PS You can just spawn the DCS F-4E Block 45 with IAF livery as AI plane.

[@cjmanson5692]

It's probably because he doesn't have the F-4E module for DCS, nor could he afford to buy it. The module is really expensive when not on sale, you know? And take into account that he very likely spent his money on the DCS Mirage 2000 for use as a Mirage III placeholder for the SAAF in the Border War video.

[@FirstDagger]

@@cjmanson5692 You can spawn the DCS F-4E Block 45 in IAF livery as AI plane even if you don't own the module. Took me 10 seconds.

[@cjmanson5692]

@FirstDagger Okay, true. I completely forgot about that. EDIT: Maybe he was unaware of that feature?

[@craigiefconcert6493]

Wow. At one thing the USA cared about the opinion of Israel’s neighbours?

[@deeacosta2734]

Thank goodness they didn't make this thing.

[@dkoz8321]

As soon as 'voice' said 'rekkie' pod where word 'recce' is used, I knew it was AI gen voice. So OP, FKU for using AIgen voice. Ya POS!

[@rtyrsson]

Aussie and Brits pronounce it "rekkie" and always have.

[@andrebarbosa224]

So telling that the Israelis threatened to shoot down our planes. they also attacked a naval intelligence ship killing 14 American sailors. Our "greatest ally" lol.

[@tibor1234]

Friendly spy planes ...

[@johnmeyer457]

The music is annoying.

[@Chounubis]

Issue with this and the F-20 - too little, too late. In the F-20's case, you have an excellent, cheap export fighter... But it's competing with the F-16, which had already fulfilled its role for some 5-10 years (Tiger came out mid-80s IIRC? The earliest F-16's since 1976?), and was equal to the "Tigershark" in the most important aspects (flight performance, technologies, etc.) In the "Super Phantom's" case, the F-15 made from the same company was around with a radically newer airframe for roughly a similar price (the F-4X wasn't exactly cheap), plus the onslaught of much newer tech which only 4th-generation airframes could reliably carry (you'd be putting a LOT of stress on an older 3rd gen, as this video demonstrated). Beautiful curiosity, and it - along with the "Kurnass 2000," and other Turkish, Iranian, South Korean and Japanese modified subvariants - showed just how much longevity this thing had.