F.W. De Klerk | Full Speech | Oxford Union

[@SakaSalawu]

I'm a Nigerian. But I appreciate and admire this great leader. He made significant personal and political sacrifices in the interest of humanity. What he did undertake in context of South Africa society was akin more to racial suicide. He was a politician of unparalleled intellectual and moral fortitude. History will surely be kind to him. May his soul rest in peace. FW de Klerk made me appreciate that fact that good men could be found anywhere, and that generalization of behavior and attitude amongst a people can be misleading and dangerous.

[@albertarthurparsnips5141]

I’m nostalgic for the days ( so long ago, now ! ) when interviewers used to continually ask him about how he would compare himself to President Gorbachev. He always used to answer , “ We simply share the same hairstyle . “ 😅

[@stogiermink]

Rest in peace. An inspiration for change.

[@johanpieterse3987]

FW doesn't get enough credit for what he did. He gave up power to a majority that his people oppressed for a very long time, full well knowing the anger of the black community. If that's not courage I don't know what is.

[@janco333]

His people? The majority of white South Africans wanted apartheid to end as evidenced by the referendum in 1990.

[@johnlamb3101]

Veraaier personified.

[@johnlamb3101]

Go and live with your black brothers - if you love them soo much.

[@kazer353]

@@johnlamb3101 go back to Europe

[@godfreyberry1599]

Credit for WHAT exactly?. SA is certainly well on the way to complete oblivion.

[@OlafLouw]

Wel nou is ons heeltemal in ons moer

[@johnlamb3101]

Hoor Hoor!

[@menelisisikhahlane9542]

I thought he was going to invite his neighbors 😂😂😂

[@gregory3768]

We need this guy to come back and be president desperately. We are in serious trouble.

[@freedomisslavery6840]

It's his policies and decisions that have caused you to be in serious trouble today.

[@gregory3768]

@@freedomisslavery6840 When he was in powee the country was one of best in Africa. Towards the last 5 years they were busy dismantling the Apartheid structures. But one thing is certain they knew how to run a cpuntry and protect it's birders effectively 🇿🇦❤😎

[@ridgemondhigh4891]

@@freedomisslavery6840 He was acceding to the international community hijackers, as well as from within.

[@rushdienfakier7978]

When will South Africa elect quality leadership that governs based on there peoples interest holistically and not only for there own motives or for there own racial groups benefit. As a South African myself I feel that there is more of a subtle reverse apartheid kind of policy being initiated under the guise of empowerment with a hint of corporate corruption that manipulates its leadership by creating policies that contributes to social divide and I can confidently say that its taking its toll in South Africa. We need a leader, a true, genuine leader that will follow the morally correct path even though all odds are against him/her, and who's vision is not only for the today, but for tomorrow and whatever lies ahead.

[@johnlamb3101]

Never - while the communist ANC is in power. Dream on mate. Immigrate.

[@thesmithersy]

RIP FW de Klerk. The man who ended apartheid and never got the full credit he deserved for it.

[@noutpijkerenvan188]

Only Nelson Mandela gave the man what he deserved.

[@WalterWhite-bc8ck]

You mean *Forced* to end it😂...

[@thesmithersy]

@@WalterWhite-bc8ck No. He chose to willingly. Indeed, he had to tell his cabinet in secret.

[@WalterWhite-bc8ck]

@@thesmithersy so the sanctions and the boycott, youth uprising and other countries didn't play a role in any of that...🤣 Mind you... SA was going to be liberated regardless... Through civil war... Do you think 20% of the population Can withstand war with 80% of the other population with destroying the country 🤣🤣🤣... Don't fool Yourself... There's a very special place in hell for FW De Klerk and the ANC

[@godfreyberry1599]

Apartheid is ALIVE AND WELL in SA - just far more insidious.

[@nokwandasthokomkhize5218]

This comment section is very telling. Both sides are angry at him for different reasons

[@tobeytransport2802]

I’m not, I’m British and think he’s very honourable man. Very honourable to give away power in the name of peace and equality

[@FelimDoyle]

@@tobeytransport2802 When Nelson Mandela passed away, FW de Klerk said, with a smile on his face, "BASTARD, I hated him, he always got the better of me!"

[@FelimDoyle]

Spending time with Nelson Mandela made him realise how stupid he was and how inhumane and illogical Apartheid was.

[@FelimDoyle]

[White Irish, living among my forefathers' oppressors in Middle England!]

[@gerritkruger4014]

@@FelimDoyle not true, he denounced apartheid way before he met Mandela

[@EstevaoBDavid]

I am not a South African and I am BLACK african and I am deeply sorry on what is really happenning out there for all the sides and parts but something I will say for what I have been noticing so far... "No matter how bigger is your weapon that can destroy everything, no matter how intellingent you're that can slave any kind of source of people for being poor or else, NEVER understimate ANY source of PEOPLE NEVER bacause one day will be really dificult to overcome the issue that you have caused just because you're not God that knows what the future is going to be like" hope u will fix the issue in the better way

[@johanstrydom2919]

The ANC has to be defeated! !

[@sbonelon9779]

he prevented civil war

[@elsabemarx4385]

Rest in Peace Mr de Klerk

[@SymphonyBrahms]

De Klerk was a great man.

[@lizgichora6472]

Thank you Mr De Klerk for this lecture on Peace; Justice, and Equality. Achieving shared Principle and Values in a free, democratic South Africam

[@findusfishfingers]

The comments section does not disappoint. Filled with second-guessing racists on both sides that would not have any capability to run a refrigerator, let along wind down a potential civil war. For those of you that bash De Klerk, you have no idea of what he was up against in regards to the internal and economic situation of the country. It was untenable, and the alternative was either complete civil war, which could have devolved into a Zanu-PF like state, or a complete police state that would have resulted in thousands losing their lives and the complete suppression of the majority population. And for those of you who are wishing for the good old days to come back to SA, they were simply untenable. You're fantasists who wish for some kind of latter day NSDAP utopia in the midst of a country with a majority population that made that impossible. Of course, if you look at the current situation, it's an unmitigated disaster with extreme disparity between rich and poor, endemic corruption massive white flight, a failed infrastructure and a still two-tiered society. But I believe it is hard to lay what SA has become at the feet of either De Klerk or Mandela. They, at the time, did amazing things, made amazing sacrifices and together laid the foundation for the potential of a better society. The problem is what the leaders of the country did after De Klerk and Mandela left the stage, which has been a shameful litany of graft, corruption and a lack of caring for the people on the part of the government and corporations. So unfortunately, while the rest of Africa, to varying degrees is making enormous progress in education, income disparity and modernisation, South Africa declines, despite its advantages, and it will continue to do so until there is a government that again, like De Klerk and Mandela, cares about its people.

[@unakoontei5556]

REST IN PEACE MR DE KLERK❤🙂

[@elizabethnadrau195]

l like these speeches, I am afraid they are sad but they is a lot of reality in them.Can we learn to correct his mistakes as he is like he was apologising here. . THIS reminds me of a lot of lot of what happened. SouthAfrica let's change and start afresh and stick together like Mandela's Wishes. Mandela didn't want to come out of Prison because he found that the country was still not t free as he wished. The SouthAfricans don't feel here free as they still demand the ( Giving of the Land officially to black people.). This does'nt mean we. won't stay together.Change of Papers and change of Policies maybe.,? Because there is still Apartheid here.There is still Rasism , Discrimination here in this country.( Lot of Colourbar) here.These must be officially stopped.

[@goochiegooch1414]

A great man who helped end apartheid....

[@shamirpatel3569]

Sir, you are a hero for me alongside Madiba, Malcolm x and Mahatma Gandhi

[@OenEnawkm]

Shamir Patel If only we celebrated him as we did with others in South Africa. The reality of our country is that racism is still a major issue and the ANC which fought for our freedom, now inculcates racism and excludes whites in its policy formulation.

[@OenEnawkm]

Goochie Gooch If only we celebrated him as we did with others in South Africa. The reality of our country is that racism is still a major issue and the ANC which fought for our freedom, now inculcates racism and excludes whites in its policy formulation.

[@frikkies333]

Help to create a shithole

[@frikkies333]

He helped us into a shithole

[@Flashheartwoof]

He gets his adulation. Meanwhile his country is going to pot. Nice suit. Nice words. Utterly useless.

[@freedomisslavery6840]

A traitor to his own people.

[@kwakuadzatia7857]

Perhaps compromises had to be made to avoid war but they've had far reaching consequences as we live in the most unequal society in the world today...there needs to be a change in the constitution to the benefit of the majority.

[@andrewdutoit9571]

@Kwaka Adzatia If after 30 years of 'Democracy' and the society is still unequal what is the problem? For example, Germany and Japan had been utterly decimated during WW2 but yet a few years after it they were back to normal. Why, because they put effort into educating the populace and into building their Countrys. What happened in South Africa, the Majority inhereted the Super Power of Africa and what happened? Absolutely nothing, no serious effort to educate the populace and no hard work. So what do you expect? Get the Majority to pull finger instead of expecting handouts and maybe there wouldn't be an 'Unequal Society'.

[@OlafLouw]

Totally agree

[@badwellasia4898]

As a South African I can advice the Palestinians stop taking ill advice from outsiders.

[@Humanophage]

I think his wife's fate is a good metaphor for how he treated the people who entrusted him with power. She trusted him and was married to him for almost four decades. He abandoned her for the daughter of a millionaire who was financially helping his party, even as the wife protested. She was loyal to her people and never bowed to Mandela. She was found strangled and knifed by her African guard, and the media initially said it was a suicide rather than a murder. He is a traitor and a swindler. I am not South African, but I consider him to be one of the most disgusting traitors of the 20th century.

[@controlroomlandry271]

You try being President of a country during one of it's most turbulent times in history, then we talk again...Are you an armchair expert?

[@janco333]

It was ultimately the vote of all the whites in the referendum that ended apartheid.

[@tyrellpillay7587]

Lol as soon as you said “I am not a South African” your point became very baseless.

[@Humanophage]

@@tyrellpillay7587 Why? As a white man, I am concerned about my people in every country.

[@ronalddippenaar2381]

​@@tyrellpillay7587I'm South African and cofìrm that DeKlerk was a scoundrel.

[@dr.ashvin.s.soobagrah6996]

RIP my friend Frederik.

[@HieMan-g1n]

Well at least he didn't bomb 200 civilians.

[@yevgenio6204]

Die Klerk, hoekom gee pad jy nie net en verdwyn in die vergetelheid nie

[@goodafy]

Under Apartheid, white children had their own well furnished schools where they were taught that they are superior to everyone else, their teachers, politicians, business leaders, parents, military leaders and even their Christian reverends in churches taught them from the Bible that they were superior God's people from Bible passages. Suddenly the same people changed their tone and say accept others as equals. Please understand their confusion. There is a story of one white teenager confronting his parents when they tried to instil subtle racial superiority in him. Then non-whites are not allowed the two year military service after high school, best non whites can get is being an 'askari' Gradually they will come to terms that SA has changed. Economic change is coming too. Imagine growing up being told that Mandela in a hardened TERRORIST that should die in prison, suddenly he is your president and later the most celebrated statesman around the world with noble PEACE prize trophy, I would be confused.

[@johann.9271]

The way you describe white schools and what we were apparently taught is completely false. Our studies were purely academic and neutral to any political ideas. Today, however, politics dominate everything - even in schools. Even my parents never spoke about politics and never forced political ideas on me. When they voted, they NEVER revealed who they voted for. Not even to each other! As for the churches... the church I grew up in never ever discussed politics during services. It was all about God and community. You, my friend, have no idea what you are talking about.

[@Aro_Gidigba]

​@@johann.9271very odd your god never brought you to see the path of decency

[@AlcaTres81]

Two great persons. Two great world leaders. Bravo!

[@emmadercksen3422]

Olivier Mouton There is and will be Only ONE world leader and that is God the ONE and ONLY

[@Nola_Egypt]

18:21

[@philipamadeus9359]

This goes prove that Apartheid did not end voluntarily but just because they had no choice. To me, de Klerk is no hero. He says, "that we bring justice," which justice was wielded against these perpetrators of human rights abuse. Luckily for them, Madiba was already worn out when they released him from prison History, they say, favors its writers.

[@dijonflynn7478]

the man who sold us out.....

[@nokwandasthokomkhize5218]

How?

[@janco333]

The majority of whites voted for apartheid to end in the referendum.

[@boerqwhaas]

Israel should learn a lot from South Africa - this is how you negotiate yourself into defeat. I hope they will not make the same mistake. This guy is absolutely a fool. And a psychotic liar to boot - thats the only way you can be this ignorant. Betraying your own like this and then just shrugging your shoulders - unbelievable.

[@johnlamb3101]

Israel has the USA backing them. Israel can “do” anything they like. Can’t compare the 2 countries.

[@johnlamb3101]

Let’s be very clear - the US never supported ZA. Their backyard was filthy with racism. Don’t complain about ZA. The US are only on the scene for their own good. “Might is Right”! The sanctions imposed by the US against ZA were astonishing. No trade, no arms, no oil, not even Kruger Rands, monetary. But when the US wanted ZA to “Help” their ally, Jonas Savimbe - ZA was OK. US dirty war in Angola which ZA had no part in until Kissinger got involved. No help with any arms, troops etc - ZA got involved in a war which escalated, involving Russia, Cuba, East Germany and Angolan forces and at the peak of this US dirty war - Kissinger dropped ZA like a hotcake to face the communistic forces on our own. What Help? In 1979 the US ambassador to ZA had an airplane which was allowed in ZA airspace for his usage - only to find it was a spy plane - taking sensitive pictures of our installations for the benefit of the Pentagon. How filthy is that? Friend? Helping ZA? Wherever in the world the US have been - it has been an absolute debarkle. Always wanting to “Kiss Ass”. Weapons of mass destruction - Iraq. Whaaat? Got their ass kicked. Iran - could not even land their own helicopters on their embassy roof? And got kicked out. Saigon - what a mess - got their ass kicked again. Vietnam - lost that war to the Vietcong - some ratty tatty communistic army. OMG Afghanistan - lost that war to the Taliban. What a mess. In the Horn of Africa - against some backyard terrorist malisha - Clinton pulled his forces out - as they were getting their ass kicked badly. You want to carry on - those are just the highlights. This nation helps nobody - Had to hide behind Atomic Bombs in Japan - as the US new they could not defeat Japan on the ground. This nation is all wind and nothing else. As for Biden - what a fool.

[@johnlamb3101]

Hoor Hoor. The world biggest Veraaier. May De Klerk rot in He11 forever. Loves Houtkoppe.

[@philipkoekemoer4705]

Poes

[@John-cg1ex]

Today’s problems in SA come from the fact that the Freedom Charter to redistribute the wealth was not implemented, instead the So called Washington Consensus of capitalist exploitation was adopted, and the the new government agreed to pay the external debt of the apartheid regime, which should have been repudiated as onerous debt not enforceable.

[@Jack-ii7zm]

take a look at venzuela and Zimbabwe to see what nationalizing does, another bloody fool spouting populist garbage.

[@johnlamb3101]

Traitor.

[@andilemngomezulu1896]

De klerk the killer

[@sbonelon9779]

so he is a traitor because he did not fight back when BLACKS were claiming their own country. their homeland. I cant believe you forget this is AFRICA not EUROPE.

[@francafrancescopetrarch6206]

You seem to forget that, this is KZbin invented by a white man

[@chs1183]

KHOISAN were first then whites 1652 then blacks over 100 years later fo your reseach

[@jeandrephilip3738]

This is south africa..not the congo

[@jeandrephilip3738]

Everything was developed by white men....so give ur phone .car and house away ...and go live in the bush

[@sansam100]

@@francafrancescopetrarch6206 do your research well, know the three founders of you tube by their face, stupidity cant be linden under the race card, I have gone to school your your fellow white men and my performance has outdone majority of them, Race doesn't make a person better than the other. You sir are among the irritate people

[@gmbhgermany8413]

The great traitor!!!

[@krommekachelpijp1]

W.F de Klerk. Thanks you for the corruption Plaasmoorde murder the murder of E ter Blache fear stupid flag ( mandela g string) South Africa is fucked up now!

[@controlroomlandry271]

@@krommekachelpijp1 What has that got to do with Mr De Klerk? Everyone is appointed a day to be born, and a day to die regardless of who is running the government or circumstances etc.

[@nokwandasthokomkhize5218]

Even your own people don’t want you in their continent. The dutch don’t care about white South Africans🤣😂 it must really suck hey

[@johnmajor9564]

What could have been the alternative to deKlerks policy?

[@BlockN]

traitor

[@PeterJohnJnb]

REALLY???? Isn't that getting a little old now? Do you really think he had any other options????

[@John-cg1ex]

The National Party did not give up power because they suddenly saw that apartheid was wrong. They gave up power because the majority in the streets made SA ungovernable, along with the armed struggle from abroad, the fraternal aid from Cuba, and finally BDS. This can be an example for the liberation of Palestine from the river to the sea.

[@albertarthurparsnips5141]

Speak clearly and plainly. Don’t bother trying to hide your sentiments. They are, in fact, genocidal. Use good, honest English. You wish to annihilate Israel. And see the extermination of its Jews. This is what you wish to see. And what you argue for.

[@findusfishfingers]

Not really. No Mandela exists on the Palestinian side, and moreover, there's population parity. A very different situation.

[@donnybrasco1601]

Naand se verraier. judas

[@mayrajoo3515]

Not everyone can forgive, it takes courage. You will one day learn❤

[@laeequenadvi4746]

WHO IS ALMIGHTY ALLAH WHO PROTECTS HUMANS ON EARTH FROM SOLAR WINDS WHAT IF THERE IS NO PROTECTIVE SHIELD Almighty Allah says: و جعلنا السماء سقفا محفوظا و هم عن آياتها معرضون " And We have made the sky as a roof withheld (from them),Yet they turn from its portents. (Qur'an,21:32) This verse indicates to that our life on Earth is protected from solar rediations and atomic charged solar winds, meteors and other cosmic attacks, pose a threat to living things on Earth. Asteroids and meteorites have penetrated the atmosphere and hit the earth throughout the course of history. First of all let us make it clear that the word " السماء" (Sama) is used in the above verse which is singular thus it refers to the complete known universe. Space researches explains that the " سقفا محفوظا" (protecting roof) has very vast meaning which refers to all magnetic fields discoverd in space from original magnetic field to the Earth's magnatic field to atmospheric layers around the earth. 1. Troposphere 2. Stratosphere 3. Ozone 4. Mesosphere 5. Thermosphere 6. Ionosphere 7. Exosphere Functions of these layere are to protect Earth from : 1. If these layers have not been existed, life could not be possible on earth.They protect life by providing weathers. Moreover most of Oxygen occurs in this region is responsible for the life of Aerobic organisms. 2. Ozone layer absorbs Ultra Voilet Radiations and thus protects life from hazardous radiations of the Sun. Moreover it provides "Green House Effect" which is responsible for maintaining comfortable temperature on Earth. 3. Mesosphere burns up million of meteors striking the Earth and thus protects Earth from these meteors. 4. Exosphere absorbs harmful radiations from the sun protecting layers underneath. Above discussion makes it clear that" السما" (sky)in the above verse means the universe.It means that Almighty Allah has protected our life on earth form all kind of threats and attacks from space. Because the magnetic fields have covered the universe including the earth like an umbrella. بديع السموات والأرض إذا قضى أمرا فإنما يقول له كن فيكون o ( البقرة : ١١٧) The Originator of the heavens and the earth! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only:Be! and it is. DR.MOHAMMAD LAEEQUE NADVI Ph.D. (Arabic Lit.) M.A. Arabic Lit. Director Amena Institute of Islamic Studies & Analysis A Global & Universal Research Institute, Donate to promote this Institute SBI A/C30029616117 Kolkata,Park Circus Branch Thanks [e-mail]

[@Awakeningspirit20]

Very incredible things you have written… amazing how when you find pop-ups like this about Christianity it’s these baseless and nonsensical Bible passages about how you better follow God and his son or else scrolls are going to open up and sheep come out of them or whatever garbage… and what you have here is actually supported by science. If it weren’t for the brutal character of God in your religion and if the way you see His universality and that sort of personality were the character of God… I would become a Muslim. I already have felt like since I met God that I was one. I just can’t justify the paradoxes in both Islam and Christianity and how both seem to be hijacked by extremely bigoted and wronged individuals who would make it impossible to be a part of the religious community. This critique is more of Christianity since that’s my background.

[@theovanstaden5766]

You reading the SATANIC VERSE. At the end of allah, Jesus Christ is waiting for you!

[@theonukwayo4018]

They are not sorry. They still want to make the Western Cape a country. It will not happen

[@Jack-ii7zm]

Seeing how fucked the rest of the ANC run SA is I don't blame them.

[@047mihlali]

Murders speak at Oxford, how nice 👍

[@gerritkruger4014]

He isnt a murderer

[@Lovelyanna15]

@@gerritkruger4014 please go back to the history books, how many people were killed during his term of office. How many people were tortured to death.

[@gerritkruger4014]

@@Lovelyanna15 but he was not involved in any one of them, nor did he know of it. And he fired those that took part in it