F1 2017 - All 10 Seasons of Career Mode

The R&D system has been massively updated in F1 2017 compared to it's predecessor, but does it fix the longevity issues that were prevalent in F1 2016's career mode? Can I win the drivers championship in a Sauber again? Will we go through the 10 seasons without a single driver dominating? Well let's discover the answers to those questions.
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DRIV3R - Main Menu Music,
Grid Autosport - Menu Music 4,
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[@crgschumacher7207]

This really does show how OP Ferrari are on this game, especially when compared to RB and Merc.

[@Maxistanca]

My copy should be bugged😂Ferrari isn't so good in my f1 2017

[@someidiot2007]

at the very end of this kimi raikkonen would be 48 YEARS OLD.

[@PSLRacing]

Some Idiot 48 years old and he still is 2nd to Sebastian Vettel!

[@someidiot2007]

+PSLutonrules F1 IS CHANGING

[@cubeddoubled1543]

I haven’t seen Ferrari this OP since the Studio Liverpool games

[@aerospaceracecraft8954]

Not 2006 though, Renault would win all the races I would participate in for some reason 🤔

[@LorenzoMartullo]

this is the kind of video i like for a rainy afternoon after an hard maths exam. Just taking some biscuits, tea and sitting down in front of this loong, long video , ahaha!

[@CountFisco]

how about they implement a random team performance changer at the end of every season, so a couple of teams a year could swing up moderately or swing down so a team perenially stuck in midfield would be swung up to the top. This wouldn't be made to affect the upgrades themselves, just have a couple of teams at the end of each year just change in performance a certain amount.

[@PSLRacing]

I completely agree with you (and aarava who I think suggested it first). I did mention that in the video, but cut it out to save 3 minutes off the video. But if you want you can watch that cut out bit here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZvCnnt6paZ1ldE

[@CountFisco]

Maybe Codemasters could, at the start of each season, add a multiplier to each AI teams development cycle, which of course randomises every year. eg. Force India start with 4th quickest car but get unlucky and have a 0.58x multiplier for the season so they fall back across the season, whereas Toro Rosso get lucky with a 1.87x multiplier and climb through the field. Then the next year Force India get a 0.56x multiplier and fall back further with misfortune, but next year they jump up to a 1.43x and leapfrog back towards the comfortable midfield. Also, I believe teams like Renault and particularly McLaren should have a default development multiplier for themselves because it is unrealistic to see McLaren in the 2 bottom positions for 10 years straight. Renault also, but that's a less extreme case. If they had that this year it would make the RnD much more exciting on it's own, because you'd see Renault make a consistent charge forward, and also McLaren come up to be near the front 3 teams gradually.

[@lucasbranisso6185]

I think another option would be to scrap the current RPG-like RnD and make one like the RnD of the first games, but with a bit more control. You would have the 4 departments as there is, but you would only be able to set how many Resource Points to invest in each, then get upgrades with a chance based on how many RP were invested in a department. The current RPG-like seems too straightforward, so much that we already have figured out an optimum path. You follow it, rise to the top, win a few seasons, then just watch as your team inevitably falls back. It doesn't feel like the teams are battling in a technological arms-race. But it must be like this if we have a tech tree. Imagine following the optimum path and being unable to catch another team in RnD. It would feel unfair, since you know you are going as fast as possible.

[@randomname9949]

I think if your team outperforms the objective, then can develop more the car, and if yout team underperforms, then the next season you are going to get a bad car.

[@doctoremil2678]

The R&D system might be hard to deal with, but I love the fact that it's possible to bring the Sauber team from zero to hero. It's so heartwarming! 🤗

[@PSLRacing]

I think that's a fair summary. Whilst I do think the R&D system has its issues (and also how many people would play far enough into the game to get Sauber to the top anyway) I still think it is a much better alternative than having no R&D system at all.

[@doctoremil2678]

PSLutonrules How many people would do it? I know one youtuber who has done it: windvow8820.

[@sergiodelalamo189]

Oh god i have been waiting years for this...

[@sergiodelalamo189]

Thanks for the job you ve done!!!

[@PSLRacing]

Thank you for watching it!

[@therandomgamer18]

Hulkenberg and wehrlein win go's, vettel a 10 time champion and psl a 4 time champion, these seasons were weird and good

[@statmanandco.2749]

Well, I did not see these 53 minutes flying by. Great informative job, hope Codies would see that to make their system better. Even if they did a great job between F1 2016 & F1 2017.

[@PSLRacing]

Statman and Co. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, and to watch all of it is very flattering! Personally I preferred F1 2016's R&D system just because it was more exciting and random, albeit short lived.

[@youngerking4358]

Thanks for this video man, really thought nobody would do all the 10 Seasons

[@CountFisco]

would be interesting to see this done in a Ferrari/Mercedes, and see the team win literally every race

[@enzoking5959]

Great video thank you now I know i will never do a 10season career mode

[@voidroidgaming1839]

Love the Grand Prix 4 music in the background at 41 minutes

[@hp2823]

YESSS FINALLY

[@grungyflannel]

Wehrlein also never benefitted from the engine r&d like your driver did due to the teammate glitch

[@kybo1155]

Remarkable driving is dat, your Sauber driver didn´t DNF single race on 69 wins (simulate). thumbs up lol. only those Baku and Indonesia :/

[@PSLRacing]

Well when you simulate a race there are no DNFs and anyway it's pretty easy to not retire in this game since there are no random race ending failures in the car you drive. Also just to say there was not a GP in Indonesia so I can't have retired from it if it doesn't exist.

[@forzatoby]

In season 2 of my career mode with red bull, I won the wdc by Malaysia

[@alexandredaigle8479]

Just hearing you talk about car development, and stuff like that makes me want to play motorsport manager

[@TheMuricanMerc]

I don't think driving them out matters. Provided I got this game at the end of 2018 but am just now completing my 100% (all sessions) season 1, driving all of it. Vettel won the championship in Mexico and despite Merc being a better car for all but 2 races, when they were tied in R&D. Only thing notable was I was driving Palmer's Renault and was consistently battling for top 5s, managing 6 podiums, 1 win. And there is two races to go. Enjoyed seeing the development race. Using the info here to determine if I buy 2018 and continue the career there, or just stay with the 2017 game. (I never pay more than $10 for these games, hence why I don't ever have the latest one)

[@Venom-yh7vb]

I'm late to the party but thank u for uploading this. This gives me hope I can win the constructor's with Sauber and that the teammate glitch only affects the first half of the season...

[@AmanKumar-cr9fs]

3:34 A sight that you will never see in real life.

[@forzeferrari2668]

Phenomenal work!! Great job!!!

[@richardbelliveau8881]

I just finished my 10th season and it retired me and I don't even have access to that driver anymore. I've lost all my progress you can't even see all the races I won and lost. What utter crap nis that???

[@ryanedwards2261]

Will you do one of these videos for F1 2018?

[@TDBAINS]

I am with Red Bull currently in my career but I started with Williams and Massa my teamate until Season 4. I did all of the races at 50% on 106 AI. ABS off. No Flashbacks. TCS off. Thrustmaster TMX. In S1, Kimi won the championship by 11pts from Vettel. I was 6th and Massa was 8th. In S2, I was 3rd behind both Ferraris and Hamilton 4th, Massa 5th. Ocon was only 13th scoring 22pts. Vettel the champion. In S3, I won the championship and Massa 2nd but Ricciardo was 3rd and Kimi 4th. Only 12 people scored points. Merc dropped off as Ham was 5th 50pts behind Kimiand Bottas 8th. In S4, I Massa won the championship and I only came 3rd with Ricciardo splitting us. Constructors was Williams 1st Ferrari 2nd RB 3rd. In S5, I moved to RB and Massa won the championship again but my fellow Canadian Stroll came 14th scoring 3 points😂😂. I came 3rd and Ricciardo was 2nd. In S6, Ricciardo won by a point from Massa and i was 3rd again. Stroll picked up slightly and scored 61pts in 9th. Force India only scored 11pts all season by Perez, Ocon had 0. At the end of S6 the car order is: RB 1st Williams 2nd Ferrari 3rd (top 3 closely matched) Merc 4th (all alone in races as ahead of midfield but far off 3rd) Reanult 5th (far behind 4th) Haas 6th (far behind 5th) Toro Rosso 7th Force India 8th (they starting going down in S4) Sauber 9th (failed to score points always) McLaren 10th (failed to score points always) The top 3 are very close but also dominant. Merc cannot keep up with them but is much faster than Renault who’s much faster than Haas but after that it is close. Sauber and McLaren are quite close but far behind the rest.

[@f1gamer536]

PSL i know that this career mode takes a lot of time and effort, but maybe try this with each team to see if there is a different outcome?

[@PSLRacing]

It took me two and a half months to go through the 10 seasons, never mind the extra 2/3 weeks to script and edit. There's no way I'm doing it again, never mind another 9 times. Anyway the team you are in shouldn't greatly affect what happened here and what the AI teams do in general. I could get a different outcome by doing this again, but the team I'm in shouldn't matter at all.

[@f1gamer536]

PSLutonrules ah okay

[@patricklampe2840]

37:04 Nice

[@Gragooni]

10 Seasons in F1 2018 coming? :)

[@thepaisleyproject]

I'm in season 7, I can attest to the faxt that simming hurts the points and car performances. It is legitimately hard to catch back up now. Force india has the 2nd fastest car, Mclaren is in 6th, williams is like 7th despite me spending a season and a half there. Redbull and i won in season 4, mercedes and i won the championship in season 3, ferrari and i have won 3 championships, and i had the difficulty way too low in s1 and won the championship by 1 point with toro rosso... currently i have 5/6 championships won, but ooking like ill finish the my 6th championship in malaysia or usa

[@doobvids181]

I got to say that this game has a really nice ui compared to the new ones

[@blobmon786]

Thank you very much for this very informative video, i'm sure those practice sessions got very boring over time

[@sylvanlawrenz]

Just proves how badly developed this game really was... Also, thought I knew what was playing at 23:20. Of all the places, I would not expect the Driv3r game menu music to be in video like this.

[@PSLRacing]

Well I needed a lot of music to cover all of this video, that's how that song snuck in. Also I do like DRIV3R and so I do use it's menu music fairly often.

[@sylvanlawrenz]

Of course, just be careful of copyright though.

[@avengergr_3586]

So if I do every practice program and quali and race without simulating I will be near the top much sooner? Im currently driving for Renault and I'm doing every practice program and quali and do 100% races and have won 4 or 5 races I think and I'm still in the 1st season and I'm 2nd in the WDC and 3rd in the WCC but my R&D pace is going too slow because until now I only bought reliability upgrades and I haven't bought a single cost reduction upgrade for the other departments.

[@finnoone12]

On my career 9 years so far 1st season WDC Bottas CC Ferrari 2nd Season WDC Raikkonen CC Ferrari Season 3 WDC Vettel CC Ferrari Season 4 WDC Vettel CC Ferrari Season 5 WDC Ricciardo CC Mercedes Season 6 WDC Verstappen CC Red Bull Season 7 WDC Verstappen CC Red Bull Season 8 WDC Hamilton CC Red Bull Season 9 WDC Verstappen CC Red Bull

[@PSLRacing]

I'm amazed that both Bottas and Raikkonen won a championship each. At least you got a bit luckier with Red Bull working their way to the top so it wasn't just one team on top throughout. Still a lack of movement for 10 whole seasons, but at least there's much more variety with your career mode than there was in mine. Which team(s) did you drive for during this career mode?

[@finnoone12]

PSLutonrules ye I was suprised Hamilton had a lot of mechanical issues first year and same with Vettel the following year a bit more variety not much more though but I drived for Renault for the first 3 years then left to Haas for 3 years then to Mercedes still driving for them I just bought all the discounts so Haas or Renault didn’t do that well when I was there but with Mercedes by the 6th season they were 6th fastest by the 7th year we were 3rd Fastest again it came down to last race Hamilton vs Verstappen and Verstappen had a mechanical error so Hamilton won the race and won the championship by 6 points very close red bull were very dominant last 5 seasons most of the time a red bull 1-2

[@PSLRacing]

So you actually drove in all the races? Well congratulations to you if you did because I certainly wouldn't have played the game for that long. But I suppose the on track action would spice up the championship positions with reliability issues, crashes etc...

[@finnoone12]

PSLutonrules ye it changes massively I played pretty much all races 50% apart from the races were I had to retire 5 races it changes hugely season 6 Singapore seventh fastest car Sainz won the race after a safety car on the last 3 laps he was leading the race after his one stop strategy worked he won the race in front of HulkenBurg and Verstappen on the podium

[@finnoone12]

PSLutonrules just finished my final year on career mode a Ferrari resurgence with Vettel and Ferrari taking both championships with Red Bull surprisingly having a terrible year despite having the fastest car

[@aaronmarkham8540]

What type of helmet do you use?

[@FormulaProg]

How do you explain the fact that on mine and everyone else’s careers I’ve seen Raikkonen is much quicker than Vettel, it’s actually really annoying he wins all the time

[@PSLRacing]

Kopite 1906 I remember Raikkonen being stupidly quick on this game, but not since about 2 weeks after the game released. Reguardless I reckon if you simulated races and not actually took part in them, you would see different results. Remember if you do races yourself the AI is different to the simulated AI and in simulations reliablity issues, crashes etc... don't happen unlike if you do the races yourself. All of that could change the results drastically.

[@jamesking4001]

I won every race in a season last game and got the same message. Codemasters...

[@forr0_]

15:06 well, like 2020 season

[@brodeur212]

Great video

[@xbelyg7154]

I think the game is Good but it shoud give more littel Updates and at the end of every Season the order shoud change not much like McLaren is now dominetmt from the Botten but that they are in the midfield or Merc,Ferrai der a nur behind and zur Ai shoud develop faster and as i said more big and littel upgrades and you shoud get more pionts for the dev.Points and more longer you are at a Team you shoud get more pionts.Sry for my english but i Think you can understand me😊😊

[@thomas8466]

Im a little bit confused now because ive chosed williams as a team and massa as a teammate. So is it possible to get Williams to the top and stay there ? Btw im not simulating.

[@PSLRacing]

Without a shadow of a doubt it's possible. If you focus on the long term and upgrade your car quickly, you can get to the top with any team, including Williams. I don't know if you would stay at the top for the rest of the career mode, but I won 4 championships in a Sauber and only dropped down the order during the end of the 9th season. Let me put it this way. You can get to the top with any team easily, as long as you upgrade quickly. And if you get to the point where your team falls back down the order (especially if you've only just started your career mode) then I'll be astonished that you actually played the game long enough to witness it.

[@thomas8466]

PSLutonrules Another important question to me is, are the cars if theyre fully developed quicker in terms of lap times or is a team just "quicker" than other teams?

[@andrislazdins3604]

What difficulty level you set for your opponents?

[@AfcHarrington]

What happened to Hamilton in this is very similar to what has happened to alonso in real life

[@taps03]

I made the dumb decision to move to Mercedes from Sauber and now I regret it so much. Any help?

[@PSLRacing]

I can't help you because I've never moved teams mid-career mode. This is one of the points I made, that if you spend so long buying discounts etc... for one team, why would you want to move to another? All you can do is just wait until either after the next British / Abu Dhabi Grand Prix and see what / if you get any contract offers. Can I ask why you decided to move teams and why you regret it? I ask this because I would be very interested to know.

[@taps03]

I just simply didn’t think twice before I moved and I thought it would help me get faster. I regret it because now all of my resource points are gone and I just miss being in Sauber in general

[@davidebersia1688]

che nerd well done

[@terriortiz4551]

Did you ever get a contract offer?

[@PSLRacing]

I can't remember how much I said about contract offers in the video so I might end up repeating myself with this comment. I didn't get any contract offers until the British Grand Prix during the fourth season. They were only from Haas and Toro Rosso but during the fourth season we had done all of the set up work and out developed Toro Rosso anyway so there was no point joining either of them. By the end of the fourth season (as we just developed the fourth quickest car) I got contract offers from Red Bull, Ferrari and Mercedes. I kept getting offers from those three teams at the end of every season and after the British GP every season until the end.

[@kostaspasparas291]

Very good video but chris is soooo annoying when he aproaches you for the r&d pace

[@natecondy6193]

Nico hulkenberg podium

[@adolfhitleroffical]

so force india cant be higher is that right....

[@PSLRacing]

PS4 Fornite Are you asking if they can go higher than the 4th quickest team? If so then of course they can, especially if you are at the team managing their upgrades. If I won championships in a Sauber, then you can certainly do it in a Force India. But if you're not at the team, then it will take a while before they move beyond 4th, if ever. The gap between them and Red Bull is so large and the difference in rates of developments between all the teams is so small, that the quickest they could realistically catch up to the top 3 is after maybe 4 seasons. Anyway season 10 of this career mode showed that other teams (in this case Renault) can challenge the original top 3 teams, but it will take a long time for the AI to get to that stage.

[@adolfhitleroffical]

PSLutonrules okay thanks i goning to do all 10 seasons in 1 team so i never can make the decision Haas or Force india. i think in the.late seasons force is better so what you think i can choose best force or haas

[@TomGorian]

Ferrari are op in this game

[@ALPHABYTE1994]

it is all because of simulating, not realy driving races

[@Doodo981]

F1 2020?

[@forshort6769]

your method and analysis is wrong mate, i pointed this out in your R&D video but now its not just the r&d pace which you tested wrongly. (ill ignore the fact that you awknowledged your suboptimal r&d route in a msg to me bit then did not point that out in this video) simulating every race is what basically NOBODY DOES the results you got in your career mode are NOT AT ALL representitive of a normal career mode. any driven race will have safety cars and failures changing up the order and destributing points more equally, what you did is take away the race from your races and your method copy pasted the r&d order onto championship tables. furtermore how you interpret this r&d table is plain wrong, you shul be looking at it like aarava, the table does not show in which departments the r&d is distributed(and not all r&d upgrades offer pace, example tyre wear but they will move you up in the r&d table). TL:DR: your analysis is a mess and although i like thee idea of this video i cant like the video because of its lack of insight, actual analysis and scientific attitude. sorry

[@PSLRacing]

Just before I defend myself, honestly I think you've got some pretty valid points here and I do sort of agree with you on a lot of them. Anyway: I did mention that I went down almost the most cost effective route. Whilst your development route may be better, the fact is that a lot of people will do different routes of development (just look at my comments on my career mode review video or anybody else's career mode on KZbin). I can't categorically say which one is best, but what I can say is that my method is mathematically the cheapest way of developing, which I did say in the video. Completely agree that no one would do 10 whole seasons just simulating every race, that would be a waste of time and money. But for the sake of getting the video done in a timely manor (and for the sake of curiosity of seeing what happens throughout all 10 seasons) I had no real other option than to do it this way. It took me 2 and a half months to make this video and I didn't do any of the races, imagine how long it would've if I did! Also the bit about safety cars, crashes etc... not affecting race results when you simulate - I did touch on at the very end of the video. Finally I would argue that even if a R&D upgrade improves only your tyre wear, logically that would help your race pace in the long run. Yes it's not inherently a performance upgrade, but in a 200 mile race, it's going to help reduce your race time. Anyway I suspect (although I could be wrong) that the game just considers the car with the bigger bar to be quicker, you might be over-complicating it by saying than certain upgrades don't add any pace at all (except for the durability upgrades obviously).

[@forshort6769]

again thank you for your response, i like that you do engage with critics. if your r&d path is meant to be the cheapest path to take, you can't then analyse it on its speed(the speed at which your sauber developed) because this is not what you set out to do(develop at a fast rate). If you want to talk about the speed at which your car can develop you have to do so in an optimal career(driving all practice session, quali and srace by yourself as this is what other people will do in their career modes), if you dont take the optimal path(and even if you say this in your video before you draw your conclusions) you can't actually draw conclusions from a suboptimal approach to the subject. I'm sorry for not noticing that you touched on race scenario's not happening in your simulations, i must have been doing something else whilest i was listening to your video. And yes i understand that to make this video it would be way too time consuming to do all the races, but then if you dont go this time consuming way all your conclusions have to be relativeised and can't be called solid conclusions. For AI tyre wear does not influence their race, certain AI drivers and teams will have a tendency from the start to do a certain strategy(example max verstappen going for 1 stops in 50% races most of the time(i dont know if every season they change who has this tendency but in all career modes i have seen there are certainly a few driver who do it way more often)). Changing tyre wear does not change this, i conclude this because i rushed tyre wear upgrades in my first season with renault and hulkenbergbarely did any 1stops, before and after the races. Also AI is not as much affected with tyre degredation in their race pace, they can continue to be consistent on very long runs while you when the driver starts dropping seconds, this will have a way lower impact on race pace than for example engine upgrades, which we have seen in career modes of aarava and tiametmarduk are very strong compared to others. as for the bar theory, rushing tyre wear really did improve only my tyre wear and helpen my significantly, i didnt get quicker because my bar became bigger for chassis, i had to do weight reduction upgrades to become faster in pace. (again) i apologize for my first comment, which was very rude, but i figured to grasp your attention going controversial was my best bet.

[@darryledxavier6392]

people like arrava and the rest of career mode jump from team to team to make the other cars better and more competetive if they stayed with one team they would just dominate or ferrari would dominate as in this modded career mode

[@PSLRacing]

Darryl Ed Xavier This career mode was in no way modded, it was on the PS4 so it can't have been. Also I completely get why you would switch teams in older games and to some extent in this one as well. But if you start in a backmarker team and in a bid to become competitive you buy the discounts (which is by far the quickest way to develop your car in the long run) then I wouldn't exactly want to leave a team I spent so long setting up. That's the problem with the R&D system being so slow moving, by the time a better team offers you a contract, you could be on the verge of outdeveloping that very same team.

[@finnoone12]

This video was good but I agree with you on these points on my career mode I race every race and it changes a lot at one point Sainz who had the 7th fastest car won a race in my 6th Season Singapore

[@venom5968]

This game is based on I think AI, instead of which car u use....

[@PSLRacing]

I think you're somewhat onto something there. Certainly certain drivers (Vettel, Massa and Hulkenberg for example) are considerably quicker than their team mates. But Massa still stopped scoring points once the Williams car fell down the order, and conversely Hulkenberg only started getting podiums once the Renault car was comparable to Mercedes', Red Bull's and Ferrari's. So there is a distinct driver 1 - 2 structure at certain teams in this game, but the car's overall speed definitely plays a fairly big part in that.

[@venom5968]

PSLutonrules I should have lowered my opinion on the part where is said that the car doesnt play a big roll, but I can agree on the fact that the car his speed does play some roll, but my observing has concluded that the AI from Ferrari is really strong, compared to other drivers, in my case Raikonnen, while Mercedes had the better car, but Mercedes rarely comes in the top 3 for me so there is something wrong with AI system for me, but ehh idk, I also see that the Red Bull drivers arent really good for example Max in most cases places 4-8 (I have seen 10th) in the first season, that is kinda weird.. considering that Red Bull on paper has a better car??? Sorry for my bad English in Advance..

[@PSLRacing]

Actually that is a fair point, Mercedes were consistently finishing behind Vettel in races despite having the quicker car early on. As I said at the end of the video, I think it's because the game considers Vettel a driver 1 at Ferrari and Raikkonen a driver 2 whereas at Mercedes both drivers are treated more equally. So under the game's logic Vettel being a clear driver 1 gave him a speed boost allowing him to beat both Mercedes' and Red Bull drivers. It also explains why Massa and Hulkenberg (driver number 1s in the game's mind) were so much better than their 'inferior' team mates of Stroll and Palmer. Granted that theory isn't water tight as often Raikkonen was beating both Mercedes drivers (or at the very least Bottas) even when Mercedes had the quicker car. So it's difficult to say for certain why it was the case, but I think it's safe to say that Mercedes under-performed in this career mode. Although it could very well have been different had I done the races myself and not simulated them.

[@venom5968]

PSLutonrules Hmm curious, we may never really find an 100% answer, but I think we are on the same level of what we think is the problem/case. I do hope that the F1 2018 game is more balanced on the cars performance than the drivers, not hoping that 24/7 Mercedes and Ferrari drivers should be on top but a bit more tweaking to it, and it would be s pretty good f1 game..

[@lucianalexe7456]

wow dude, you are speaking like your life depends on this game :)

[@ardakaz1502]

First

[@someidiot2007]

at the very end of this kimi raikkonen would be 48 YEARS OLD.

[@avengergr_3586]

So if I do every practice program and quali and race without simulating I will be near the top much sooner? Im currently driving for Renault and I'm doing every practice program and quali and do 100% races and have won 4 or 5 races I think and I'm still in the 1st season and I'm 2nd in the WDC and 3rd in the WCC but my R&D pace is going too slow because until now I only bought reliability upgrades and I haven't bought a single cost reduction upgrade for the other departments.

[@avengergr_3586]

So if I do every practice program and quali and race without simulating I will be near the top much sooner? Im currently driving for Renault and I'm doing every practice program and quali and do 100% races and have won 4 or 5 races I think and I'm still in the 1st season and I'm 2nd in the WDC and 3rd in the WCC but my R&D pace is going too slow because until now I only bought reliability upgrades and I haven't bought a single cost reduction upgrade for the other departments.

[@PSLRacing]

If you do every session then you'll get more resource points than if you don't. So in qualifying, because I skipped over it, I only got about 20 resource points, and you would get more if you met your qualifying target etc... The same applies for the races where you get points for where you finish, avoiding penalties etc... So since I never did qualifying or the race I got far fewer resource points than if you did the sessions, and obviously the more resource points you get, the quicker you can upgrade the car. Also if you're finishing races much higher than you should do given the pace of your car (which it sounds like you are if you're 2nd in the championship in a Renault) then you should probably increase the difficulty. Car development will only make you even quicker.

[@avengergr_3586]

+PSLutonrules Thanks for your reply. My difficulty level is at 85 (Expert) but the only reason I have it there is because I want to perfect all practice programs and if I raise the difficulty the practice programs will be a lot harder and probably impossible to complete and I will miss a lot of Resource Points. I will probably raise it once all of the upgrades are fitted.