F1 Drivers & Teams FED UP with Verstappen's UNACCEPTABLE DRIVING!

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Ай бұрын

The Austrian GP has turned out to be one of the most controversial races in 2024, especially in the closing stages when Norris and Verstappen were fighting fiercely for the win but the Dutchman decided to take his elbows out, resulting in Norris ending his race while Max dropping down to P5. However, with Verstappen ultimately getting out as the winner of this event and extending the lead to both Norris and Leclerc for additional 10 points, Norris will have a lot to say about this type of racing and with the field now closer than ever, could accidents like this happen more often than not?
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@phaenius
@phaenius Ай бұрын
It's not the old Verstappen, he always was like that but last two seasons he didn't have competition.
@Sha-yw6fb
@Sha-yw6fb Ай бұрын
Yes bcos Mercedes created a galloping horse cart for lewis ,..
@mauriciogomero9049
@mauriciogomero9049 Ай бұрын
if they where fighting for 10th place I can assure it would have ended the same. Lando is too soft to handle max. all the goat people praise like schumacher senna and prost had the same mentality but only max gets the hate
@DrSaxxy
@DrSaxxy Ай бұрын
Exactly. You don't need to make questionable moves when you have a car that's so far ahead of the pack.
@WdyWP
@WdyWP Ай бұрын
My sentiments exactly!! Now that there is a car that can match the Red Bull, Max will bring the nasty/dirty driving back out.
@Sha-yw6fb
@Sha-yw6fb Ай бұрын
@@mauriciogomero9049 don't dream on your lalaby world..mate .senna yes ..schuey yes ..not prost at all...prost was one of the most professional racers of his generation...
@xander0901
@xander0901 Ай бұрын
This is a good lesson for Norris as this is what’s required to fight with Verstappen. Norris needs to be more aggressive and ruthless to match Max’s style on the track. You can’t come into this expecting a fair battle because Red Bull as an organization is upfront about using everything they can to gain an advantage.
@Sha-yw6fb
@Sha-yw6fb Ай бұрын
Spot on mate 👌
@mindingminds
@mindingminds Ай бұрын
Trash take. How about just racing clean and following the rules?
@sourav5ingh
@sourav5ingh Ай бұрын
i blame Ocon
@The-walloper
@The-walloper Ай бұрын
😂 Me too.
@mauriciogomero9049
@mauriciogomero9049 Ай бұрын
5 seconds for ocon
@tardisboy1
@tardisboy1 Ай бұрын
same
@ArmyJames
@ArmyJames 26 күн бұрын
I blame Latifi.
@nawshiz951
@nawshiz951 Ай бұрын
The Stewards should be to blame. Took them forever to give the exceeding limits to Norris. That would have eased up Max
@douglasjones3013
@douglasjones3013 Ай бұрын
Norris wouldn't have the limits if they gave the place to Norris because he overtook off track and moving in the braking zone
@user-rl1rn4qq9p
@user-rl1rn4qq9p Ай бұрын
Lol how pathetic do you sound right now
@davelee1866
@davelee1866 Ай бұрын
Oh come on!!!! Lets all agree to blame Ocon........🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@pattidale7968
@pattidale7968 Ай бұрын
Lando and Max were both a bit aggressive . So how do you fix that so that it doesn't happen again??
@thewisePLAGUEIS
@thewisePLAGUEIS Ай бұрын
@@pattidale7968you don’t, y’all need to stop crying like a bunch of children and let them fight it on the track like EVERY race between rivals has done since the beginning of F1
@ajilitynelson538
@ajilitynelson538 Ай бұрын
After 2021 Abu Dhabi I care less if max like run them over they enable him to drive that way with no consequences.the sport has become his family business🤷🏾‍♂️
@mindingminds
@mindingminds Ай бұрын
They created a monster.
@ludolfm5514
@ludolfm5514 Ай бұрын
Till year 2000 we called this hard racing and everyone liked it.
@TheNorville2
@TheNorville2 Ай бұрын
Who called that hard racing? people hated it and still do.
@ludolfm5514
@ludolfm5514 Ай бұрын
@@TheNorville2 this was nothing compared with Senna, Prost, Schumacher and so on. Incidents happen, and make it less boring.
@daleyfamily2179
@daleyfamily2179 Ай бұрын
@@TheNorville2 you clearly have not been watching F1 very long lol.
@trevord.6545
@trevord.6545 Ай бұрын
People expect the drivers to all be best buds with sunshine and rainbows coming out of their ass now. These F1 reaction channels have been having a field day with the clicks this whole thing has generated when really it's just the hard racing that we haven't seen in years
@ludolfm5514
@ludolfm5514 Ай бұрын
@@daleyfamily2179 you probably just saw what you wanted to see
@Marcel-ct9wq
@Marcel-ct9wq Ай бұрын
Check the battles between Leclerc and Max 2022 same corner, Max went all the way on the curbs to avoid a collision. Same with Sainz 2023, same corner. That is how you do it.
@___vedma
@___vedma Ай бұрын
exactly ! Max's moves were identical to Vettel in Austrian gp 2019 . Both squeezed norris . Lando could've avoided the crash by going slightly to the curb
@StenWasTaken
@StenWasTaken Ай бұрын
Finally someone who understands, you are allowed to drive on the curbs
@johncunningham1625
@johncunningham1625 Ай бұрын
It’s okay to admit Max’s wrong doing, if the roles were reversed his fans would still say Norris was at fault.
@Headless14
@Headless14 Ай бұрын
No, we wouldn't.
@zeffie100
@zeffie100 Ай бұрын
You talked to all of them, mr knowitall?
@peggyblank
@peggyblank Ай бұрын
Lando said no apologies needed anymore he was too emotional and frustrated. Time to admit it too?
@maafremsayablong
@maafremsayablong Ай бұрын
Lando need more time fighting Max
@illusionnl9237
@illusionnl9237 Ай бұрын
actually so true ....they have to taste eachother better .....uhm wait ...well u get the picture...lol
@Sooneh20
@Sooneh20 Ай бұрын
This is racing. Sometimes may be good sometimes may be bad. I myself see this as a “not enough space left, but a dumb move to try and claim 1st place from 2nd like that” incident. They’re both at fault. Not just one driver. It’s the media and McLaren who make this small incident way bigger than it should be.
@gwenevers
@gwenevers Ай бұрын
Exactly! Let's just enjoy the racing and stop this childish hate campaign
@alexanderpino3379
@alexanderpino3379 Ай бұрын
ROFL 😂 Britons are really butt hurt. As if this incident is one of the worst in history. I guess they forgot what Hamilton did in 2021 on Silverstone. Or what Magnussen does on an almost weekly basis
@clvecooledge2407
@clvecooledge2407 Ай бұрын
That's debatable what happened at Silverstone's in 2021 I think it was max fault put him in a William's he wont be able to do these things or send him banger racing as he loves crashing so much.
@brianrasmussen2956
@brianrasmussen2956 Ай бұрын
Max will never change.
@Sha-yw6fb
@Sha-yw6fb Ай бұрын
That rascal never does for now ...great pretenders along with the whole team in sync..
@freethinker--
@freethinker-- Ай бұрын
@@brianrasmussen2956 maybe when he grows up.
@user-yt7jb7kk1i
@user-yt7jb7kk1i Ай бұрын
World champion
@RedHaloManiac95
@RedHaloManiac95 Ай бұрын
Lmao this is a joke both Norris and Max deserve penalties for this race. Don’t blame max without blaming Norris. Norris literally dive bombed 3 times forcing max to go outside track limits once or else he would’ve been hit.
@paulcadden4967
@paulcadden4967 Ай бұрын
Max never lost those antics, he's always been a driver willing to break the rules to be ahead, he just hasn't had anyone that close behind him lately for these tactics to be needed again
@stevensutcliffe2033
@stevensutcliffe2033 Ай бұрын
Reply its not just Verstappen its red bull philosphy, as is the bias FIA to RBR antics
@mauriciogomero9049
@mauriciogomero9049 Ай бұрын
you like schumacher senna and prost? they race harder than max and yet people praise them for that but y'all just hate max
@omenvii242
@omenvii242 Ай бұрын
​@mauriciogomero9049 Yup! People are too soft and sensitive these days. Max is unapologetic, and it's just straight blunt. It's something I like about him, he doesn't like to beat around the bush.
@JHX1
@JHX1 Ай бұрын
Exactly, some people should look up how those heroes from back then did race and how nasty they were...
@MrSvante88
@MrSvante88 Ай бұрын
@@mauriciogomero9049 it's not about racing hard, it's about following the rules created for fair competition. Moving under breaking is to violate those rules, which is something Max has done since forever in F1. Has nothing to do with liking him or not. Sport is about fair competition, not about someone violating the rules to gain advantages.
@dp5131
@dp5131 Ай бұрын
Was Max aggressive? yes. But it was on the limit. One can clearly see it was Lando's sudden turn to the right that caused the impact. It was exactly like the one Max avoided in the sprint race when Lando got him cos he would have hit Lando's back left corner. He stayed and got him in the next turn. Lando just turned and rammed into Max. You can't just blindly follow the track when there is another car. You have to take evasive action. Rewatch the Lando Max battle in the Sprint. Max gave up to fight another turn. And those who are saying he forced him off the track! Forced him off the track? Don't be so dense, if you pause right before the impact you can SEE he's not even over the white line, a car isn't off track until all 4 tyres are outside the white lines.
@russellwong88
@russellwong88 Ай бұрын
Both drivers were driving aggressively. If they weren't, they wouldn't be doing their jobs. It's called RACING!
@pieterbakker5290
@pieterbakker5290 Ай бұрын
When you cannot win fair and square yuou shouldn't be in F1.
@madwiggyNLD
@madwiggyNLD Ай бұрын
Norris pushed his car over the limit and even after the crash he did not care 4 his car . max did and was able to finish the race . while norris had to F up his car so bad he needed to retire . Btw that corner is Negative camber and to overtake like norris did is just almost imposible .
@Dunk1970
@Dunk1970 Ай бұрын
What nonesense. The punctured tyres just degenerated in different ways. Norris' just developed the long flapping puncture that was striking the car every wheel turn. He called in to his pit saying he was retiring the car while driving back. As for the corner, Norris overtook Max on lap 63 on the inside, making the corner without going over track limits and had track position. Max re-overtook Lando off the circuit and should have been told to give the place back, just as Lando did when he went off the circuit a lap or two earlier. Lando's attempt on lap 64 was to go wide to get the cut back for the turn afterwards. Max decided that having defended the insdie line initially, he would swing across and block Norris on the outside as well. You simply cannot do this, as that level of erratic driving is banned. Norris overcooking it on one lap and giving the place back (while also getting a penalty for it) is zero excuse for Max breaking the rules on multiple laps with no warnings from the officials. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipCmlHuZnK6iirs
@eddybesselink6256
@eddybesselink6256 Ай бұрын
See what Peter Windsor has to say about that.
@RedHaloManiac95
@RedHaloManiac95 Ай бұрын
Yup someone with actual knowledge and not just feelings. It’s laughable that no one wants to say Norris contributed to this with his tactics in previous laps.
@TheNorville2
@TheNorville2 Ай бұрын
Actually Peter was pretty much on the fence he surprised me. Jolyon Palmer and Ant Davidson had receipts and videos....quite cleary show what happened over several laps.
@muhammadshahrilabdulmalek3734
@muhammadshahrilabdulmalek3734 Ай бұрын
Youre britain, definately This is only your personal view. Not everyone.
@kylegrey3161
@kylegrey3161 Ай бұрын
No max is wrong and I’m not British
@rockstar-ov4lp
@rockstar-ov4lp Ай бұрын
@@kylegrey3161 how is he wrong?
@user-yt7jb7kk1i
@user-yt7jb7kk1i Ай бұрын
Lando had a car width and no chance to pass on the outside and no Max did not move under braking according to telemetry but the facts aren't important when your minds made up
@daltonhawbaker1166
@daltonhawbaker1166 Ай бұрын
Lando drove Max just as aggressively. Contact was inevitable the way they were going.
@fsconsultantcy2559
@fsconsultantcy2559 Ай бұрын
If Lando had shown the skill and patience Max did in Monza he may have won or on track anyway ( had 5 second penalty before this shame the fia didnt get this out faster )
@jonathantheori7541
@jonathantheori7541 Ай бұрын
Shame fia didn't black and white flag crashstappen for his moving under braking
@fsconsultantcy2559
@fsconsultantcy2559 Ай бұрын
Nortis should have a grid penalty next race his car was dropping lots more stuff that perez in 🇨🇦
@glaciershark9947
@glaciershark9947 Ай бұрын
@@fsconsultantcy2559shut up stop being a troll
@Xer0.Visual5
@Xer0.Visual5 Ай бұрын
@@fsconsultantcy2559100% true.. to bad people now a day are just keyboard warriors and can’t really see facts anymore. It’s the Netflix gen! 😅
@danx1736
@danx1736 Ай бұрын
Would the real mad max please stand up!😅
@ramiromartha7267
@ramiromartha7267 Ай бұрын
Nah the media is just jumping on the hypetrain to hate verstappen. If you want to be a champion you have to dirty sometimes. Norris lost his cool and didn't think his actions through. Max isn't just gonna give the lead just because someone is next to him. You want the lead fight for it. And if you can't handle that, go play chess or something.
@erictripton
@erictripton Ай бұрын
Lil Lando must realize his passing skills need work. Max or Lewis, will not make it easy for him, remember that. Lando needs more woodshedding from my point of view.
@freethinker--
@freethinker-- Ай бұрын
And mad Max needs to respect a friend that has a faster pace.
@illusionnl9237
@illusionnl9237 Ай бұрын
@@freethinker-- while racing ...friendschip doesnt exist
@freethinker--
@freethinker-- Ай бұрын
@@illusionnl9237 it does for gentlemen.
@freethinker--
@freethinker-- Ай бұрын
@@illusionnl9237 it does for gentlemen.
@user-yt7jb7kk1i
@user-yt7jb7kk1i Ай бұрын
Wins are earned not conceded
@nicholassimpson5836
@nicholassimpson5836 Ай бұрын
Careful lando his car may end up on top yours
@Sha-yw6fb
@Sha-yw6fb Ай бұрын
Spot on mate ..really in truth that what happened to lewis and mad max nonchalantly walked away from the incident implying lewis deserved it..his is dastardly barbaric character...of insane monster ..
@Dee-cannon
@Dee-cannon Ай бұрын
​@@Sha-yw6fb that was insanely cold blooded to just walk away, stunning lack of humanity and character
@petergroedvelt4236
@petergroedvelt4236 Ай бұрын
Could it be this is an english channel?
@illusionnl9237
@illusionnl9237 Ай бұрын
shhhhh....ur not supposed to talk about that
@maartenmidden1651
@maartenmidden1651 Ай бұрын
Everyone seems to be forgetting that Hamilton, Schumacher and othe great drivers also do all kind of tricks. Lando too. So stop whining and let them race. Maybe make the cars a bit more sturdy zo they can race more agresseviley
@whotfissid7188
@whotfissid7188 Ай бұрын
Every driver thats been a champion has played dirty before, senna did, prost did, schumacher did, hamilton did, alonso did, and now verstappen as well, verstappen is just easily villainised
@Sha-yw6fb
@Sha-yw6fb Ай бұрын
It's a load of bull s...if you don't know about spot admit it don't make a mockery of the spot...
@whotfissid7188
@whotfissid7188 Ай бұрын
@@Sha-yw6fb i do in fact know about the 'spot' , go watch how dirty schumacher was, he's called the dirtiest driver of the game yet people love hating on max, go watch how much hamilton used to use dirty tricks as well
@Inside-wheel
@Inside-wheel Ай бұрын
Landon tried overtaking from 3 car lengths away 4 times, what Lando needed to do was find somewhere else to overtake
@TlotlehoMoreli-zp6uo
@TlotlehoMoreli-zp6uo Ай бұрын
Bud, that's the 1 of 2 proper corners to overtake people in Austria
@Inside-wheel
@Inside-wheel Ай бұрын
@@TlotlehoMoreli-zp6uo I get that mate but he needed to get closer, Verstappen was over aggressive but lando walked into it 4 times, you have to be careful lunging in on people who are aggressive! He should of just kept the pressure on for a few more Laps and tried to force an error, not get involve in the error, I wanted Lando to win
@TlotlehoMoreli-zp6uo
@TlotlehoMoreli-zp6uo Ай бұрын
@@Inside-wheel you have a point👌
@Negoti4tor
@Negoti4tor Ай бұрын
It is unbelievable that Max always gets the blame. Nobody is talking about Norris. I can agree for the fact that Max changed his line in the brakingzone, even though it was minimalistic. But Lando could have avoided it easily. Same like Max avoided a collision on the divebombs of Lando. Both were hard racing on the edge. If you look back on other races more drivers race like that. Same defending in that corner, but it seems that when max does it all media is trying to blame him. I really feel like there is a hate being created by media. In my opinion we should enjoy the fights between 2 great drivers and its Lando's first time he gets a car where he can win and he will probably do so later this year. We should sit back and let them fight.
@the33rules73
@the33rules73 Ай бұрын
Norris was on the wrong side !!! 🤷🏻
@___vedma
@___vedma Ай бұрын
Max's moves were identical to Vettel in 2019 Austrian gp at lap 4 , both moved slightly left squeezing Norris , lando could've avoided the crash by going slightly to the curb . Also Norris was driving recklessly, he was constantly on the track limits, He needs to be more skilled and smart to win against max . ( from a McLaren fan )
@Negoti4tor
@Negoti4tor Ай бұрын
@@___vedma I'm a fan of both Lando and Max but I see that Norris is doing the same things as max when he was younger. Divebombs are one of the... But Lando will get there eventually I hope. It is good for the championship
@driptohxrd2039
@driptohxrd2039 Ай бұрын
I totally agree and plus us fans want action and when it happens everone soon goes to cry and blame others
@___vedma
@___vedma Ай бұрын
@Negoti4tor I am not saying Max is Saint, both drove dirtyly, norris has potential but he always makes mistakes under pressure. Like in Miami, Austrian sprint and Spain in lap 1 .Everytime I expect something from him he bottles it . Last year in Austrian gp max was in the same position as norris with sainz but went slightly to the curb . Lando should figure out his mistakes and find an effective way to beat max :)
@FrostbytesYT
@FrostbytesYT Ай бұрын
Another in depth analysis on a controversial issue. Great video. I really hope Max doesn’t let winning go to his head. Sportsmanship is still a factor that needs to be met.
@bobtutton1700
@bobtutton1700 Ай бұрын
If you receive a penalty for causing a crash and are given a penalty, but the person you crash with DNF's and you finish ahead of them and receive points , WHAT IS THE POINT OF THE PENALTY. You should be placed behind them , in which case no points. Just a point of view from the other side of the fence.
@SWD3104725
@SWD3104725 Ай бұрын
@@bobtutton1700 Silverstone 2021 ...
@lilibordei721
@lilibordei721 Ай бұрын
​@@SWD3104725I was going to say the same thing.. he obviously won't responde to you.. must be really stupid to say something like that without thinking about Silverstone lol goes to show what kind of intelligence max haters attract
@MiltonGuerrero503
@MiltonGuerrero503 Ай бұрын
@@SWD3104725 That never happened, lol
@marcel1867
@marcel1867 Ай бұрын
@@SWD3104725this!!!!
@subhashismandal9871
@subhashismandal9871 Ай бұрын
Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
@tylerdurden4006
@tylerdurden4006 Ай бұрын
I wonder what everyone would be saying if Lando did that to hamilton while fighting for a podium. I bet you all would be screaming for Lando to get kicked out of f1. But bcoz it was max, you all happy about it and think it's Max's fault he got divebombed in a corner. 😂
@stacyjohnson6627
@stacyjohnson6627 Ай бұрын
No said anything when Verstappen did it to Hamilton 2020.
@tylerdurden4006
@tylerdurden4006 Ай бұрын
@stacyjohnson6627 lmfao, I remember you all crying so very very hard at that one.
@brianrasmussen2956
@brianrasmussen2956 Ай бұрын
Any other driver than Max would have gotten a strict punishment.
@mdcclxxviepluribusunum1066
@mdcclxxviepluribusunum1066 Ай бұрын
@@stacyjohnson6627attempted murder was just one accusation
@TamasKiss-yk4st
@TamasKiss-yk4st Ай бұрын
There are clear regulations what said you are not allowed to change your movements direction in breaking zone.. (also before the braking zone you are only allowed to move once, before the crash he was moved away from the white line, because he thinked Lando will try to go inside again, but when he realized he moved to the outside, he changed his direction AGAIN, the 2nd defendig move isn't allowed, especiall if it's inside the breaking zone)
@alexdlrg
@alexdlrg Ай бұрын
The British F1 media has gone too far demonizing Max, while being blind to the mistakes and reckless driving of British drivers. In protest, regardless of what happens on track, VOTE MAX FOR DRIVER OF THE DAY THIS WEEKEND AT SILVERSTONE!
@monstrousella
@monstrousella Ай бұрын
so... if max went ballistics again like you say he did, then carlos went ballistics on him as well, exact same corner, exact same move, different outcome? you're a joke.
@a2ashraf
@a2ashraf Ай бұрын
Driver Point deductions should be introduced. Strong enough to deter this action from happening. And it should be called v-deduct
@MrSvante88
@MrSvante88 Ай бұрын
That's probably the only way to get Max to follow the rules sadly.
@kennethjmcarthur2428
@kennethjmcarthur2428 Ай бұрын
@@MrSvante88 No. The driver behind must acknowledge their position and allow the driver in front the chosen line for a curve/corner.
@mauriciogomero9049
@mauriciogomero9049 Ай бұрын
that's the most stupid thing I've ever heard
@britishgaminglivingthedrea5148
@britishgaminglivingthedrea5148 Ай бұрын
​@@kennethjmcarthur2428yh so all your going to get is one car in front of the other with no over taking that's not even racing pal it's hot lapping.
@a2ashraf
@a2ashraf Ай бұрын
@@mauriciogomero9049 uve been v deducted for stating your opposition.
@markvanderknoop131
@markvanderknoop131 Ай бұрын
When did that happen? Noris even thinks differently.
@drumprof
@drumprof Ай бұрын
Yup...they've got him exactly where he wants them....
@p.sethia1830
@p.sethia1830 Ай бұрын
just why max isn't celebrated
@Sha-yw6fb
@Sha-yw6fb Ай бұрын
Bcos he has been a celebrated rogue driver in 2021..mad max ...
@freethinker--
@freethinker-- Ай бұрын
@@p.sethia1830 arrogance
@rockstar-ov4lp
@rockstar-ov4lp Ай бұрын
are u nuts?
@Leonardnl
@Leonardnl Ай бұрын
Lando 'The Torpedo' Norris.
@bkeen7013
@bkeen7013 Ай бұрын
Maybe Verstappen was a bit naughty moving to the left entering that corner, and maybe you can assign more blame to him than Norris, but I honestly loved the racing and view this more as a racing incident than anything else. After they went off corner, you can see Norris purposely turn into Verstappen with his right front tire (probably out of frustration), but I don't really care because it was good hard racing and was highly entertaining. Senna and Schumacher would've done the same thing, in my opinion. I'm sure Verstappen will be vilified at Silverstone.
@troman5000
@troman5000 Ай бұрын
If you are going to pass Max, pass him. Don't pull next to him and play patty cake with him! Max ain't having it!
@user-rf2nv9sv9l
@user-rf2nv9sv9l Ай бұрын
I will say , there is only one driver he respects and that is Leclerc . It has always been clean racing between them in F1.
@Papaondas
@Papaondas Ай бұрын
Nando is learning with Hamilton how to cry , raise your level Max is a step above
@illusionnl9237
@illusionnl9237 Ай бұрын
MORE LIKE 5 STEPS
@oxcart4172
@oxcart4172 Ай бұрын
Don't world champions always tend to be aggressive?
@LeonaKanzaki-xt5js
@LeonaKanzaki-xt5js Ай бұрын
And I can't stand up with lando rude behaviour everytime
@jphits7610
@jphits7610 Ай бұрын
More aggressive max! This is still not enough to win 🎉
@kfthai
@kfthai Ай бұрын
Yeah... Crash all rivals who want to over take you, u will be a dirty Champion again.
@jiripacak9354
@jiripacak9354 Ай бұрын
HE NEVER CHANGED. This is very good and make the sport interesting. Do not be jealous Hamilton. Can you imagine, Max let mafe free pass. We will have nothing talk about the race. Risky situations are interresting. This is why for me the Moto GP is much more interesting. Just magine the crush risk of the boys. They are the heroes.
@The_Lost_Subrosian
@The_Lost_Subrosian Ай бұрын
To be fair, Hamilton had his own period where he used to force cars off or smash into them including hitting Massa with alarming regularity.
@douglasvankammen2916
@douglasvankammen2916 Ай бұрын
And botas or rear ending kimmi at the end of pit lane
@mdcclxxviepluribusunum1066
@mdcclxxviepluribusunum1066 Ай бұрын
This isn’t about your irrelevant hate for someone better than you
@JHX1
@JHX1 Ай бұрын
Every long period winner did that... And all were hated at the time.
@ashtonlyle7654
@ashtonlyle7654 Ай бұрын
Also why is this guy still talking about 2021
@TheNorville2
@TheNorville2 Ай бұрын
Because that is where he got away with murder or nearly murder at Monza and Brazil.....
@BGB1983
@BGB1983 Ай бұрын
Max did the same years ago. Problem with Max is he's out in front and never gets to battle so he's not used to it. When he does he just pushes people into dangerous situations. He's done it numerous times over the years. Can't stand him. Middle pack is the best to watch in F1. Least they battle and 9/10 do it fairly and good to watch.
@mauriciogomero9049
@mauriciogomero9049 Ай бұрын
fight... right.. only DRS. I'm sure you didn't enjoy 2021 and 2016, not to mention you despite schumacher senna and prost following your logic
@kennethjmcarthur2428
@kennethjmcarthur2428 Ай бұрын
Max battles as well as anyone on this circuit. WTF
@ollowayne7818
@ollowayne7818 Ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6aWpZymbq-Nlac idk man the crash itself looks pretty okay that was no UNACCEPTABLE DRIVING in my eyes as a F1 fan since the eraly 90´s, just really unucky in the end result. thats just my personal opinion.
@alvarorey1549
@alvarorey1549 Ай бұрын
huh? you just linked verstappen's onboard that proves he was veering to the right to protect the inside and then reacting (late and under breaking) to norris taking the outside line and completely closing that too, which caused the crash
@Agdem_
@Agdem_ Ай бұрын
@@alvarorey1549 ?? It doesn't matter if it caused a crash, it's perfectly legal to defend your position by doing that, and it happens all the time in F1. The only reason you have an issue with it is because you aren't a real racing fan as the original comment is mentioning, he's watched since the 90's where these incidents have happened often. Modern F1 fans think any sort of contact should be a penalty.
@alvarorey1549
@alvarorey1549 Ай бұрын
@@Agdem_ I suggest you read the rules and stop making assumptions about me as a racing fan. Since you clearly don't know either of those things, but are still commenting on them, you are not worth continuing a conversation with. Have a nice day
@ollowayne7818
@ollowayne7818 Ай бұрын
@@alvarorey1549 have you seen how lando defended in spain at the start pushing max into the grass? Well that move was also not allowed under todays rules. so pls sir step back a little and dont try to unvalue someones opinion. In the end i guess we all watch F1 for good racing Max and Lando both delivered on that part for me as a Fan. and maybe if you watch the max onboard again you will might agree on me max did nothing dangerous there and you maybe even look up landos onboard you will see there is around half a meter more curb on the left side. it is a relative low curb and it is not outside of tracklimitis if he doesnt cross the while line with all 4 tires so i would call that usable for lando to maybe adjust his breaking sligthly to the left to avoid contact. just think about it
@Sha-yw6fb
@Sha-yw6fb Ай бұрын
Seriously see a professional optamologist..
@peteratherton897
@peteratherton897 Ай бұрын
Happened in carts, happened with Hamilton, now it’s Lando, Max is a dirty driver, any time he’s threatened in a race, he’d rather crash than be over taken, bad driver
@Sha-yw6fb
@Sha-yw6fb Ай бұрын
❤ spot on mate..
@saidaikarasaidai
@saidaikarasaidai Ай бұрын
??????
@kennethjmcarthur2428
@kennethjmcarthur2428 Ай бұрын
Trying to excuse the driver behind from bumping the lead to gain advantage? Too many rules eliminate a race. Might as well just give the trophy to the pole.
@mauriciogomero9049
@mauriciogomero9049 Ай бұрын
if they where fighting for 10th place I can assure it would have ended the same. Lando is too soft to handle max. all the goat people praise like schumacher senna and prost had the same mentality but only max gets the hate
@kennethjmcarthur2428
@kennethjmcarthur2428 Ай бұрын
@@mauriciogomero9049 Agreed. Max was ahead and does not need to apologize for taking an outside line clearly evident in his track and the driver who did the same in front of him.
@asapbizzle5470
@asapbizzle5470 Ай бұрын
Dont ever change Max
@MrSjGibbs
@MrSjGibbs Ай бұрын
You “pundits “ keep saying Verstappen turned under braking. The in car shot shows the steering wheel was not turned. It is acceptable for British drivers to crowd people off according to you. At best Norris misjudged the closing speed with DRS and did not react in time. It was never going to be a clean pass by Norris. He needs to clean up his driving style if he wants to win races at this level. Probably why he has only one win.
@pvega1461
@pvega1461 Ай бұрын
The wheel was turned to the left, the data shows it, the in car camera showed it. Max even admitted he opened the wheel. You ok???
@adamruddle6558
@adamruddle6558 Ай бұрын
He was driving across the line under braking. There was room to the outside as they entered the braking zone which he closed off under braking instead of holding his line. He is trying to find a loophole by steering in the instant of applying brakes. He knows exactly what he is doing and is trying to find the loophole to allow him to get away with it.
@peaceemecheta1149
@peaceemecheta1149 Ай бұрын
That's why i don't like listening to British or Dutch media because they are biased
@Shyky1981
@Shyky1981 Ай бұрын
And there goes another couch steward. F1 needs to hire you. You clearly know more than those they employ.
@laughsandwich3842
@laughsandwich3842 Ай бұрын
So just for reference. In 2016 when rosberg was found guilty he also had not “turned the wheel to the left” but he was found guilty on the basis that he had not turned in the same manner as he done for all the previous laps of the race. Deliberately leaving the car to drift wider than usual. I’m not saying max turned left but there are other ways to get the car to be more left. People mentioned it for Lewis touching people by turning the car with throttle or lack there off to get it to under or oversteer so it does not have to be a turn to the left of the steering to be deemed that he was wrong against Norris
@Recon6delta
@Recon6delta Ай бұрын
It is safe to say Max won’t get anymore reach arounds from Lando before the race
@user-qd5uc8ty4q
@user-qd5uc8ty4q Ай бұрын
Same old Verstappen, once a cheat always a cheat. His team literally cheated to win his first WC (basically unpunished budget cap breach, which kept him in the championship, and getting the race director to blatantly ignore the rules so he could get right behind on fresh tyres to win it), and he's always done this, and always will unless he's punished. He's not a worthy World Champion as far as driving style is concerned because it's always the other driver who has to back out to avoid an accident. I mean, when a rule is brought in to combat something he has always done (moving under braking) then something is clearly amiss. Grow some, FIA, or this is going to happen more and more (fun though it is!).
@driptohxrd2039
@driptohxrd2039 Ай бұрын
Honestly these toxics fans need to leave f1 ever since DTS came out f1 has died fans are getting delusional
@janvanholten7592
@janvanholten7592 Ай бұрын
This was NOT an aggressive move by Verstappen. He indeed moved a bit to the left and Lando's reaction to that was not alert enough and started too late. A downright clumsy situation actually.
@waynenimrod6070
@waynenimrod6070 Ай бұрын
You just refuse to want to see crashtappens fault
@LeafyRL1
@LeafyRL1 Ай бұрын
@@waynenimrod6070 max vercrashin
@latinlatino5146
@latinlatino5146 Ай бұрын
Least delulu Verstappen fan
@hugokwok1894
@hugokwok1894 Ай бұрын
yes he moved to left while turning right in order to close the door lol
@MrSvante88
@MrSvante88 Ай бұрын
An honest question for you Mr Van Holten. Are Dutch people tribal? Aren't you afraid Dutch people will come off as a bit insincere with their unwavering support of someone who keeps breaking the rules?
@skunkkang5713
@skunkkang5713 Ай бұрын
Lando just frustrated when he divebomb Max 3 times without any ounce of thinking. Lando be like back off bro or we crash. His mistake is he doesn't consider that Max rather DNF than giving him a free pass. Both makes a choice and pay for it but Lando is the biggest loser. He wreck his car after the incident while limping back to the pit. It just race incidents and Lando is the loser of this outcome that why those funny brits lose their mind. If u can justify to say last race when Lando push Max to the grass as racing incident I also see this one as racing incident.
@britishgaminglivingthedrea5148
@britishgaminglivingthedrea5148 Ай бұрын
Dive bomb is apart of racing they is loads of races this happens in all formats. Plus Lando did one dive bomb and made it stuck it were max who passed of the track a lap or so before the max knocked Lando off. Not a max or Lando fan just saying what everyone has seen apart from max fans
@mdcclxxviepluribusunum1066
@mdcclxxviepluribusunum1066 Ай бұрын
There’s a projection in that fan boy comment
@headhunter1012
@headhunter1012 Ай бұрын
@@britishgaminglivingthedrea5148 Lando dived at least 3 times wake up and I don’t see a reason why Max should be all at ease with giving up pole when those two aren’t in the same team nor was Norris driving clean. He was aggressive in his driving and there was a consequence. Yes Max did also defended his pole aggressively but thats how this sport works If you are not willing to risk something you aren’t a F1 driver anymore so stop whining about rough racing
@danx1736
@danx1736 Ай бұрын
Like mad max doesn't EVER dive bomb...the bias is real.
@headhunter1012
@headhunter1012 Ай бұрын
@@danx1736 he does and if he crashes it’s his fault too 😂so whats your point? Never said that only Lando is aggressive while divebombing every driver who goes for a divebomb is being aggressive and taking a risk
@mikepaizes6294
@mikepaizes6294 Ай бұрын
Lando and hamilton together cant match verstapen. 😅😅😅
@aj41926
@aj41926 Ай бұрын
Max is also correct that Norris dive bombed the heck out of him The laps leading up to that
@GunterDS_SteReo_G
@GunterDS_SteReo_G Ай бұрын
British bias ... maybe its an idea to start an own race competition, call it BTCC and there you go ...
@FCV-fh3iu
@FCV-fh3iu Ай бұрын
Kkkk 44 fanboy , anti Verstappen squad at work again
@Azframer
@Azframer Ай бұрын
Verstappen did not move over, on both onboard camera shots looks like he veered to the outside of the turn. But from the drone or helicopter view, Verstappen was only angled toward the outside and kept the same angle. Lando had a choice, hit Max or the brake. Lando chose to hit Max. If I saw it any other way, I'd say it.
@AmandaPanda-nq1do
@AmandaPanda-nq1do Ай бұрын
Exciting racing. Thanks Max. ❤️
@carldaniel3155
@carldaniel3155 Ай бұрын
Lando on SKY news today, said both were to blame... Look at the on-board footage of Max he never steered left. Also just before Lando made contact, Max steered away.
@user-yt7jb7kk1i
@user-yt7jb7kk1i Ай бұрын
Don't need facts we're British 😂😂
@rodneycampbell1550
@rodneycampbell1550 Ай бұрын
This is the reason I could never be a fan of Max. He is very entitled and self-centered and doesn't believe he should take responsibility for his actions. Nor has he ever.
@Tommy-bp7gs
@Tommy-bp7gs Ай бұрын
It was risky driving. Lando nearly hit max twice to the point he had to move. Lando decided not to move off the track and crashed unlike max avoiding landos dive bombs. In the post race interview he was very mature unlike lando who was putting their friendship on the line. They both took risk and this happened, it's racing and it would be boring if everyone was cautious and apologised for their mistakes that are controversial
@itzsnookerplayz3631
@itzsnookerplayz3631 Ай бұрын
Lando dive bombs was good but the third time max went into him. My opinion is that max isn't a good driver at all it's just the car which is good😂
@Tommy-bp7gs
@Tommy-bp7gs Ай бұрын
@@itzsnookerplayz3631 So even when the car was slower and had errors and faults, you still think max is a bad driver? If that's the case why isn't checo up there. I'm not arguing though I am interested on why you think that 💪
@itzsnookerplayz3631
@itzsnookerplayz3631 Ай бұрын
Well look at the race he is dangerous. He did this to lewis and I'm talking about max not checo
@Tommy-bp7gs
@Tommy-bp7gs Ай бұрын
@@itzsnookerplayz3631 Sorry think it was the wrong comment I reply too, I feel like max is fine tbh
@geralddennis-k9j
@geralddennis-k9j Ай бұрын
We have to see what Jos has to say ! Isn’t he the team principal 🤔
@ZeroChilli88
@ZeroChilli88 Ай бұрын
The driving from Lando was a bit wayward with the dive bombs but max was completely in the wrong turning left into lando thrn to try and run him off the track is just poor and shows his lack of sportsmanship. Max always has been and always will be a dirty driver
@user-uc1tt6ew2g
@user-uc1tt6ew2g Ай бұрын
It was max fault not the england driver
@thewisePLAGUEIS
@thewisePLAGUEIS Ай бұрын
Nah, y’all just growing soft. Current F1 DTS watchers and fangirls would get a stroke watching any race before 2019.
@AWitlessIdiot
@AWitlessIdiot Ай бұрын
I've been watching since 2009 and you're full of shit. The racing now is garbage and designed to allow leading car to run outside car off the road. Go back to 2012 and watch one of those races. None of what max did at Austria occurs. If you want to meat ride max, why embarrass yourself while doing it?
@abirahmed1465
@abirahmed1465 Ай бұрын
whatever norris did, he surely compensated himself for that almost immdiately, no call from team or fia. also they didnt do much clean battles with vertsappen
@Mogget5
@Mogget5 Ай бұрын
Whatever you may think of the outcome, we need more racing like that to make F1 exciting again. It has been far too predictable and boring for far too long.
@stephencoe5161
@stephencoe5161 Ай бұрын
its racing not passing . harden up buttercup . Lando dive bombing & Max having to avoid him & leave the track is ok i guess
@greeny07
@greeny07 Ай бұрын
Exactly.. they made a boring race a lot more spicy. Both driving on the limits. They both made mistakes!! But it was a lot of fun to watch
@MexDejony
@MexDejony Ай бұрын
actually crazy how in 2019 when verstappen did the divebomb on charles, bro was called a dirty driver by everyone, when norris did it its way less 😭
@Sha-yw6fb
@Sha-yw6fb Ай бұрын
Demolition derby driver mad let loose again in F1 track ...
@clvecooledge2407
@clvecooledge2407 Ай бұрын
Verstaapen has never changed it's like the saying it's my ball & no one else is playing verstaapen thinks it's his God given right no one is allowed to overtake him or beat him.
@lesdobson4904
@lesdobson4904 Ай бұрын
How can crashstappen keep a 10 point margin for causing an accident that saw the receiver knocked out of the race with zero points!!!!!!!
@MrClassytangerine
@MrClassytangerine Ай бұрын
The same way Hamilton did in 2021
@weinto4.687
@weinto4.687 Ай бұрын
can we stop acting like 100% of the blame for the crash is on verstappen? watch the fucking onboard. he never turned his wheel left. he kept it straight and followed the racing line, he had the apex, he had the line. lando should have backed out. but he’s still naive to the true scope of verstappens racing skill. he’s never been in a car capable of going wheel to wheel with max. and he doesn’t have as much experience racing that hard
@ivozeferino6043
@ivozeferino6043 Ай бұрын
IN OPINION MAX IS A DERTY DRIVER 😢
@gizmo1252000
@gizmo1252000 Ай бұрын
luckily your opinion counts for jackshit :)
@mikejon100ify
@mikejon100ify Ай бұрын
Max and Joss are like a pair of bookings. Arrogant to the last never admit that wrong never say sorry the worst kind of racing drivers ever..
@kaaskroket6796
@kaaskroket6796 Ай бұрын
we do not care
@granthallam7644
@granthallam7644 Ай бұрын
Could not agree more!
@MegaRikmaster
@MegaRikmaster Ай бұрын
Yes, let’s drag the Father of a driver into the equation. Like Hamilton apologized when he pushed Max of in Cops Corner into the wall with 56G’s, No he celebrated wearing the British Flag instead 🎉😂😂😂 you people are hilarious
@mauriciogomero9049
@mauriciogomero9049 Ай бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAH YOU EXPECT A F1 DRIVER SAY SORRY FOR RACING HAHAHAHA dude people praise schumacher senna and prost for their agressiveness but if it's max is unacceptable, lando is too soft to face max he has to learn that if he wants to win a wc he has to take the fight to the mud
@danielevilla03
@danielevilla03 Ай бұрын
It's false that only Hamilton and Leclerc were capable of fighting cleanly with Verstappen. Ricciardo did that as well. (If you're gonna bring Baku 2018 as a reason to exclude Ricciardo you should exclude Hamilton as well for 2021, but both would be wrong)
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein Ай бұрын
Stop with lies in thumbnail
@michaelshore2300
@michaelshore2300 Ай бұрын
Lando Had reduced the leed From 8 to 5 sec before the pit stop
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein Ай бұрын
Impossible lol the pitstop was 6.6sed
@illusionnl9237
@illusionnl9237 Ай бұрын
and increased his gap to max ...in points ....LOL
@goodimy
@goodimy Ай бұрын
If a driver dive bombed me twice and both times went sailing off the road I'm not sure that driver could say he drove perfectly. It was try a hail mary time after time. Yes... no double moves allowed but was so slight and left enough racing room. I don't think a couple other elite drivers wood had gotten into an accident there. Alonzo...hamilton. ..leclare. but i do think this might help lando become an elite driver if indeed he has the mental to be one
@brianhudy8375
@brianhudy8375 Ай бұрын
Yup, the old Max is back. Norris braked twice and I don't blame him at all for going for it a 3rd time, I just wish Lando would have totally wiped him out REMEMBER people, the stewards blamed Max 100%. Tough one to admit?
@lilibordei721
@lilibordei721 Ай бұрын
' I wish he took him out' says a lot about you.. while saying max is a bad driver lol.. obviously a traumatised pathetic brit
@MiltonGuerrero503
@MiltonGuerrero503 Ай бұрын
You know they are always biased. They have not applied penalties to british drivers when they should. btw, they give the penalty based on the outcome of the other driver. Had lando continued in the race, they would have said that it was a racing incident.
@kennethjmcarthur2428
@kennethjmcarthur2428 Ай бұрын
Hahahaha, making rules so the driver behind can get ahead by bumping or disallowing the lead driver to drive his line. Max's line was an outside line similar to the driver ahead of him. Weak argument.
@brianhudy8375
@brianhudy8375 Ай бұрын
Geez you guys, look at the incident again! Max was driving on the inside line and then cuts back to where the rubber was and cuts off norris which was dangerous driving according to the rules I don't care if it was Norris or anyone else...... that's dangerous driving according to the rules Goodness guys,take another look, if u don't see what I am talking about, u r blind
@brianhudy8375
@brianhudy8375 Ай бұрын
Look at rule 33.4 clearly saying what I am
@getzbeamed5795
@getzbeamed5795 Ай бұрын
Can british not cry about Max for one minute?
@triat63
@triat63 Ай бұрын
Look at the Peter Winsor opinion, than you guy,s can learn something.
@KevKlopper
@KevKlopper Ай бұрын
This. They all want exciting racing but without excitement. 2024 mindset.
@mattg5852
@mattg5852 Ай бұрын
I respect max’s talent as a driver, but he has a huge anger issue and I’ve said this time and time again. This anger issue he has when things arnt going his way and then is a dick about it and never or extremely rarely accepting the blame has always been my biggest problem with max
@mauriciogomero9049
@mauriciogomero9049 Ай бұрын
it's not anger issues it's just that he will go to all lenghts to not give you the position. if they where fighting for 10th place I can assure it would have ended the same. Lando is too soft to handle max. all the goat people praise like schumacher senna and prost had the same mentality but only max gets the hate
@mattg5852
@mattg5852 Ай бұрын
@@mauriciogomero9049 Schumacher got the hate and still does to a certain extent. I like Schumacher, but I didn’t start watching f1 till 2001, after his more controversial incidents happened. I also don’t respect some of the things Schumacher did earlier in his career. As for max, he does have an anger issue still. Do I think that was a main factor in this incident, probably not. But Max is a very aggressive driver that has pushed the boundaries for aggressive overtaking and defending and has gotten away penalty free more times than he should have in the current rules. And yes, M.Schumacher got away with his fair share of penalties also. I also think one of the greatest passes made on Schumacher was by Montoya in Malaysia in 2002 (he believe)
@Lars-rj9en
@Lars-rj9en Ай бұрын
ha ha ha ha ha -- 10 points!
@user-sb9rl9se3k
@user-sb9rl9se3k Ай бұрын
One rule for max another for all other drivers
@Marcel-ct9wq
@Marcel-ct9wq Ай бұрын
Lando hits Max while not in front, Lewis SIlverstone same ..
@granthallam7644
@granthallam7644 Ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@gk863
@gk863 Ай бұрын
​@@Marcel-ct9wq it was Max hitting Lando don't confuse facts and others
@THEBUFUMAN.
@THEBUFUMAN. Ай бұрын
just remember his old days, same driving style but without competition it was not obvious. If Mclaren is able to push them we will see this often.
@joeypouw
@joeypouw Ай бұрын
Nobody can't beat max hé is the goat
@petyrkowalski9887
@petyrkowalski9887 Ай бұрын
Max needs a race ban and licence points. He claims he didnt move under braking.. which is a bald-ass lie, unless he didnt break at all.
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 the stewards have all data…he didn’t move under braking lol they have all the proof, you have your deluded fantasy
@davidtaylor954
@davidtaylor954 Ай бұрын
I go back to an old unwritten rule from my racing days. The responsibility for a successful pass lies with the driver doing the overtaking. That's where it begins. From then on it is judgement.
@marcusgunn-ie5fw
@marcusgunn-ie5fw Ай бұрын
Was u doing 200 mph into the corner no so bit different I would say
@patb5266
@patb5266 Ай бұрын
​​@@marcusgunn-ie5fwneither were doing 200 in that turn😅.
@britishgaminglivingthedrea5148
@britishgaminglivingthedrea5148 Ай бұрын
Can't get away from the fact that max turned into the corner and when lando went outside of him he turned away from the corner to block him turning under braking which is breaking the rules. End of argument the pal.
@SA-uu4my
@SA-uu4my Ай бұрын
If he does it again in future when he is in front...copy what Noris did...
@henrywillreign9713
@henrywillreign9713 Ай бұрын
This i the same thing that happened when Lewis was dominating the grid. Verstappen was only "allowed" to be aggressive only as a means to stop Lewis' reign. Now 33 doesn't want to get off the throne😂😂😂
@taar7997
@taar7997 Ай бұрын
100% it's nice to have a battle but not like how verstappen always cause and accident n blames the other driver
@iancross3879
@iancross3879 Ай бұрын
Lewis + Norris both use the same tactics - why are you not jumping on their cases!
@Sha-yw6fb
@Sha-yw6fb Ай бұрын
If you have not woken up go back to bed dream and your world only not any body else's...
@mindingminds
@mindingminds Ай бұрын
"Back to his old way"? He has never changed. He is the same unprincipled driver he has always been. It's just more apparent when he is challenged (which he hasn't been for the last 2 years). It's funny that people excused and supported his terrible ways when it led to robbing Hamilton in 2021, but now that it's against Norris, they raise objection. 😂 I say good for all of them, including Norris. This is what happens when you reward bad behavior and elevate a spoiled manchild.
@perwin1979
@perwin1979 Ай бұрын
Please let them not change and race! This is what we want to see!!! Ruthless, aggressive, taking risks… if you don’t like it watch snooker! Be happy we have 2 great drivers, two teams are batteling like this! The best drivers battleling like this!! On and over the edge!
@tonyboswell5414
@tonyboswell5414 Ай бұрын
Max doesn’t like it when other drivers drive like Max😭😭
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