F4LESS ROLLERS - 07/09/2024 Finally breeding my second round breeders

Been a tough season so far, had sickness that wiped out a chunk of my breeders. The goal this year, was to try and breed out a kit or two of havoc birds into the sky, so I'm pushing for it. Hopefully, I will be able to get successful with what I'm doing.
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[@user-nu5pg4xn2j]

How many pairs are you putting up for breeding.. the havoc Crewe finally get there chance... best of luck with them..

[@effortlessrollersloft9659]

@user-nu5pg4xn2j when I did the cross back 2020, I bred out about 160 of these birds. I did not really expect much from them as I just wanted to fly birds. Out of the 160 birds, I did my best to select the best 20 (10 hens and 10 cocks) to move them forward. Granted, I lost a lot of really good birds flying, some I wish I could still have. When I move to my location now, I gifted out about 14-18 birds to random guys that wanted to get in the hobby. I can only wish they did something with those birds as I believe they were really great birds to fly, my wife persuaded me to keep them, and I'm glad she did. To answer your question, I have 10 hens and 9 cocks left. The goal is to breed all of them back to my pure DC birds and select those who possess the trait I want to bring back. These birds will all go back up in the air to retire. They have been proven as breeders as I bred all of them back to the Rick Mee side, and all the 2021 babies off them were really good. Living in the city and a small loft, I had to cut down and stay focused. But I sure hope to get them back and rolling soon enough.

[@user-nu5pg4xn2j]

@@effortlessrollersloft9659 well anyway the very best of luck with the birds and i hope everything works for the best....if you can get a break from the hawks and falcons... maybe then you will finally find out what the rollers are really like

[@effortlessrollersloft9659]

@user-nu5pg4xn2j my location now isn't do bad. But I've only been here for 2 years, so I'm still learning the area. I am finding that I can fly from late fall through winter with no losses and no bops until the spring migration. Which is mid April through mid May. Then I get hit like 3-4x a month until July. For some reason, in July, the bops are hunting my birds super hard. Not sure if they are feeding Youngs or what, but they hunt me hard!! Then in late Aug, I'm flying with little harassment from the bops. I guess, I'm curious to see how they will do as well now that I can fly with way less losses. Time will tell how far I can take em.

[@derrickrobinson4519]

😂lol...."not to bash on Rick Mees"...... I've learned is a Everybody birds ain't meant to be Everybody's birds.

[@reyosuna7026]

What are your deepest rollers doing? I'm more into deep rollers than competition kit birds..

[@effortlessrollersloft9659]

Deepest would be roll downs, I get a few a year. I've bred many different depths, anything from 10-200'. But I don't chase depth as most would, style is my number one when it comes to the roll. I've seen some very fast and deep birds that are A styles or axle and to me, that is just not a sight for me. Here's my order of the 4 factors of a roll: 1. Style 2. Speed 3. Frequency 4. Depth Depth to me is a factor that will vary from person to person. Some ppl like birds that drop right away, which makes them look deep. Some time their birds, which to me is the most accurate way of doing things, and lastly some try to judge depth by what they think it looks like. So, depth is at the bottom for me.

[@fredchapman4607]

Do you ever sell birds id like to get a couple of breeding pairs off you