Street Fighter 5 Players Have Rose-Tinted Glasses

[@Brian_F]

Launch SFV was grounds for a class action lawsuit. If it had came out in a post-Cyberpunk world we'd have seen Ono testifying on the stand. However I think people are just mixing different talking points from different people to create a message that doesn't exist. I think there's a class of people who are comparing end-game SFV to release SF6, and others are interpreting it as people comparing launch PRODUCT sfv to launch product SF6. I don't think there's many (if any) people genuinely saying the launch product of SFV was better than the launch product of SF6. Launch product SFV was a travesty, even though I genuinely love end-game SFV gameplay. Launch SF6 is the best fighting game product I've ever played, with really good gameplay as well for a 1st season. Should just appreciate it for what it is and look forward to it being refined even more.

[@dddaaa6965]

Majin Obama could kick you head clean off with his weakest move

[@poepertist]

In my opinion sfv didnt get interesting till season 5 (the season v-shift got added)

[@doogies]

maybe one of those things where i see more people reacting to a minority than the minority being that large, but I just genuinely am baffled by people being cooled on the game 6 months in. I can see the miscomparison, but this is a separate issue: player perspective and maturity. I expect this to be an issue with Tekken 8 as well, where we are hotswapping a POLISHED game *regardless of systems/gameplay differences) with an UNPOLISHED one. I think with the way we play the games competitively now in our ecosystem, going that hard day one on a hotswap like that just FEELS jarring and it is throwing people off. You have to know that's what you are walking into at the start though...

[@Brian_F]

​@doogies that's facts. Crazy how hard people are on sf6 s1 gameplay when it's way better than launch sf4 or sfv. Let it cook for a bit. And product quality wise it's better than anything we've ever had.

[@dgw4049]

Facts. U can only understand the failure of the SFV release if you loved USF4. The SF4 community was huge, dedicated and hype but was totally crushed by SFV's bad netcode, laggy inputs, poor value, lack of content, mediocre graphics, poorly tuned mechanics, clunky ui and incoherent plot on release. While SFV was solid by S4, the SFV release was a failure in nearly every way imaginable. SF6 has been far superior to SFV thus far in basically every category except in-game currency.

[@Rhombus-qt2ro]

Pretending SFV was better than SFVI at launch is some real crackhead shit. Good rollback alone clears all SFV launch content.

[@misterkeebler]

​@EnjoyNHBTVof course it mattered. Thats why capcon attempted to implement rollback in sf5 and they just did a poor job with it. And let's pretend that netcode wasn't important in this scenario....sf5 launched with basically just survival mode. It didn't get story mode until four months later, and it didn't even get arcade mode until season 3. The only people playing 5 for the first year in particular was just the competitive scene just dealing with the online and traveling to the numerous offline events. It was a horrible product for everyone else the first couple of years.

[@ScurviestJim]

'dead game' screechers are generally just best to be ignored but this one in particular is just confusing. I like to think they either werent there for sf5's launch, or they selectively blocked it in their memory because it was too traumatic.

[@cynical_perks8725]

Launch SFV was the most "who is this for?" fighting game I've ever seen, casuals like me hated it because it was barebones yet full price, and fgc fiends like a few of my friends hated the online and dumbed down mechanics. It pushed me and others I knew to ignore Capcom and play other games.

[@TheredstrawberrySRK]

I'm never gonna forget people saying that if Zhi commented Evo finals in 2016 he'd say "Welcome to Top 8 of Street Fighter V, where each player in top 8 represents a frame of lag."

[@hiagustres]

The "SFV was great on launch" gaslight is crazy

[@NurseLee]

Man, a lot of these players also forget that SFV at Launch didn't have "Open-Player Lobbies." You could only invite One Friend at a time to play and that was it. Players had to wait about a full month just for open lobbies. Overall, I am so grateful that the launch of Street Fighter 6 was SUPER SUCCESSFUL! And it's pretty much the new Gold standard for Fighting games, more or less. Take care Majin Obama!

[@SoulWarriorSF]

It was always SFV gameplay for me that was ass

[@VarthDaver]

My favorite meme is release Nash taking the spotlight because of the 8f of delay making it "challenging" (to say the least) to contest his dashes that had horrible animation, when you had R.Mika doing war crimes with her clap and oppressive gameplay right there with impunity. And let's not talk about the lack of features that SF5 offered to the player on launch. Truly a game that was carried by being called Street Fighter.

[@moist__owlette]

SF6 is an insane game and always so fun to come back to. I'll be honest, the people dooming on the game probably just need to take a break for a day or two and play something else. You play any game for too long constantly and you're gonna hate it.

[@egrassa1480]

It's been like 4 months break for me, still no desire to come back. Throw loop still would be in the game and no matter how you will try to justify - its ass, and its not fun

[@skrumpf6793]

skill issue @@egrassa1480

[@taxxxevasion]

​@@egrassa1480just tech lil bro

[@Bakedea87]

Its ass, until a ryu wins a tournament. Itll be trash. Just my opinion.

[@nnme576]

​@@egrassa1480take the throw

[@johndcoffee632]

"Game n-1 is objectively better than Game n because i like it more" has been going on since people been complaining about backgammon not being as good as checkers. My first FGC memory of it was GG players moaning about BB being 'dumbed down' , it goes in generational cycles for every community.

[@doogies]

Sometimes it is true tho. Sometimes it's not. *looks at strive

[@johndcoffee632]

😅true,true@@doogies

[@anonymousnate678]

Some people like to be nostalgic about video games more than they like the actual games I swear.

[@Saint.Cosmos]

Damn, THAT'S BARS.

[@mario101395]

The funny thing too is that I would legit say that SF6 is a more complete game than even like, season 3 of SF5, it took FOREVER for 5 to get to even an acceptable fighting game title. I will say though I'm always down for people complaining about SF6's monetization because it is legit awful, it feels like a monkey's paw situation where it is like "hey can we get a complete game with fleshed out movesets and actual mechanincs on release?" and then capcom was like "sure" and made that game, plus a billion microtransactions and the worst unlock system for base costume colors I've ever seen lol. Anyways, SF6 is sick and people are just mad they are bad at the game, I've been there before. Hell, I was getting mad at all sorts of SF6 stuff and then realized how much of it is just on me, people just cannot accept that maybe they suck and it isn't all just game mechanics. Not saying the game doesn't have flaws, cause I have my fair share of actual issues with the game, but people are just ready to jump on the "last game better" train because they are probably way worse at SF6 then they were at SF5 at the end of the game's life.

[@Balmungofsky]

Hell no, SFV had a garbage launch. Modders had to come in and mod the netcode to be reasonable. It was the most bare bones release I've ever seen of a fighting game with no story mode, and short arcade modes.

[@user-fe5bm6ot8o]

I legit can’t imagine simping for SF5, what the fuck bruh

[@doogies]

its weird

[@versatilelord8893]

Even though there’s mechanics stuff from it I don’t like. I still think it’s a great game that deserves more respect

[@mgbrad5018]

I don’t ever take anyone seriously if they say a game is “dead” or that launch SFV was a good game…

[@JustPokey]

I've never heard literally anyone say launch SFV was acceptable, and I'm the team captain of the V>6 squad.

[@doogies]

ive seen some very questionable tweets from your camp man. get them in order 😂 that one i showed is a weird one but i've seen enough to make me want to talk about it....

[@decksteroussnail]

We need a rootkit to teach these zoomers a lesson

[@N00BSYBORG]

Anybody saying Vanilla SFV was better is either trolling or wasn't there. Vanilla SFV was half a game that barely worked and took like 5 years to stop sucking ass. Vanilla SF6 by comparison is a lot more fun, a complete product, more balanced and has been way more successful at bringing people into the scene. It's probably one of the best launches a fighting game has ever had.

[@Wolfedge75]

I have a habit of picking up games when they first launch, and SFV was no exception. It turned out to be a huge waste of money and it was so barebones I wound up dropping the whole franchise altogether. (Though 6 seems very promising) But the worst thing was that SFV’s business model would influence an entire generation of fighters. T7, BBTAG and to a lesser extent Strive... It really soured my view on modern fighting games as a whole.

[@N00BSYBORG]

@Wolfedge75 You're not alone. A lot of people who weren't obligated to play SFV or the most diehard fanboys chose not to play it. I would occasionally come back to it but could never stick with it. I almost dropped fighting games as a whole cause everything was either watered down trash like SFV or unplayable online. SFV was where the push for esports and dumbing fighting games down started. If fighting games are a ship, then SF is the captain. It's the face of the genre, so it's almost always going to have an influence on other games.

[@thejunkmanlives]

@@N00BSYBORG idk how people claim sf5 started "dumbing things down" when sf4 is the first time mashing the down corners gave you a dp(and the 360 motion was also killed). arguing about the launch is a waste of time. the issue is where the games are starting off mechanically. so v system vs the drive system.

[@N00BSYBORG]

@thejunkmanlives Bro there's a big difference between making things a little easier and dumbing them down. SFIV had shortcuts, ultras and big ass reversal windows, but you still had a lot to learn if you wanted to play that game competently. There was room for player expression with the Focus Attack mechanics too. SFV gimped buttons, gimped movement, gimped combos, gimped projectiles, gimped defensive play and straight up removed some attacks for characters or locked them behind VT. V-system was an interesting concept but all it did was create degenerate comeback metas. SFV was dumbed the fuck down.

[@nekogami87]

@@Wolfedge75 Didn't DoA 4 or 5 did the base game + anything else DLC-style first ? but even if we didn't have dlc we would have gotten 5 paid version of SF5 anyway so ... (and less costumes)

[@henriquerodrigues7795]

Only credit I'll give SFV close to launch over SF6 is they did release more costumes and they were more affordable. As well as being able to buy characters with fight money. Up to their last big bundle they made, with all characters and costumes, I didnt spend a penny on SFV other than the box price.

[@TheWordPlay]

9:00 that's an image I can still hear I remember being excited for SF5 bc I came into SF4 late; saw this as a chance to finally play a Street Fighter while it was new. I was so disappointed to see how SF5 launched that it took me years to give it a chance. I'll miss some characters from 5, but will gladly take SF6 anyday!

[@poeticthief]

I can't believe people were forgetting the 8F meme. That was repeated ad nauseam when SFV launched. Also, as much as the season 2 DLC characters are beloved now, it killed a lot of steam because there were no returning characters outside of Akuma, who also had a controversial redesign. I even remember people throwing a fit because you have to buy his classic design.

[@RedHero1]

"Periodic excessive input lag" are 4 words that should never be uttered by someone in reference to a video game. Combine that with the online, ugly models on some characters, and the fact that Windows saw this game as a rootkit on release (not sure if they ever fixed it) and I don't see how someone can say YEAR 1 SFV is better than SF6.

[@eggbreakerdotexe]

The rootkit got patched out after 24 hours IIRC. Maybe less.

[@VolTheProducer]

The rootkit wasn’t on release either - It was introduced with one of the year 1 updates/patches. Point still stands though!

[@konojereda1993]

People that say this only come out once a new game comes out. SFV still exists, but they'll treat it like it's gone forever like they're putting flowers on a grave and remembering the good old days. I think if you prefer the previous game find some people and boot it up instead of being annoying about the new thing online, especially if the new thing is actually really good like 6

[@NeoBoneGirl]

This is the natural progression of a fighting game player. The game YOU started with and got good at is the best one. When you start losing at the new one, it's because the game is ass and the old one is better. The next Gear game can be as good or as bad as it wants but I can guarantee you the Strive players are gonna be going "Maaaan, this game is mad random, you just mash buttons and get blown up, it's not about fundamentals anymore." when they get knowledge checked to death by newcomer Sting (Like The Guy)

[@matmil5]

Like Xrd Players to Strive?

[@NeoBoneGirl]

@@matmil5 Yeah pretty much. I think the game is ass for multiple reasons but it's easy to find people who have no idea what they're talking about hating the game for reasons not based in reality. Same with XX to Xrd, same with MVC2 to MVC3, same with fuckin SF2 to SF3, it's the eternal chain

[@mextyle_327]

Wrong, i was trash at SF4 and is my favorite, i didn't like sfv but i was better and sf6 im still not sure is bad 🤔

[@kadorwarehouse]

As a multigamer who watches you to keep up with fc dramas and events, i really appreciate you keeping facts straight against revisionism

[@lorcanman]

They can have multiple wives

[@lt_johnmcclane]

@enrique7934I think they were trying to say that they’re more than just a Street Fighter player or a fighting game player but it’s a pretty funny term to label themselves with lol I think most people would just call themselves a gamer or simply point out the fact that they play more than just fighting games

[@superultrathanksmom3845]

just found out ima multigamer brah thank you

[@Scuddi]

some people are addicted to novelty. when something is static, they get uncomfortable.

[@ssjAnnaPaquin]

I really have to hand it to SFV for being the #1 force behind growing the Xrd scene in my city

[@Se7enRemain]

This shit is insane to me. People were so down on SFV, that they said it should get an episode of scrublord saturdays on the Super Best Friends channel. Do these people not remember banana ken? 8 frames? Season 1 MIKA!? Time is a fucking circle, man.

[@buff00n3ry]

SF6 was phenomenal on release because of how *AWFUL* SFV was on release: Capcom learned a LOT from how badly they initially messed up with SFV's launch. Yeah, SFV eventually became a game people could play, then eventually developed into a game people enjoyed booting up. But at launch? Nah, people were playing V cuz it was gonna be on Capcom Tour and they fuckin hated playing that shit.

[@randyminish111]

Thanks for putting this out there. Shit blows my mind, I was starting to feel a Mandela Effect about SFV and this discourse.

[@dddaaa6965]

Not only that but most of these complaints DID happen in 5 the same or worse, not only did it have an enormous input buffer to hide these flaws but but V trigger DID eat your inputs, with variable frame delay that increased as the game went longer (lmfao) and wasn’t found out about until the game had been out for YEARS. Any time I try to watch a sfv video I turn it off as soon as a jab anti air happens.

[@Uooooooooooooh]

I quit playing fighting games for 3 years after I played the release version of SF5 for 2 months

[@bigeoof1804]

I knew the cycle of nostalgia was prolly gonna come for SF6 eventually, but I didn't expect it to happen so fast. I know this is naive but I kinda thought it might not happen at all considering the, largely earned IMO, salt and negativity that came out of the launch of SF5. Not to say 6 is above criticism, but man, it felt like it took a long while for the community to properly warm up to 5. Anyway fighting games were better when they had 8 frames, way way WAY worse netcode and a fraction of the content that's in SF6 #SFVWasBetterFRFR.

[@Pandaman64]

Honestly, I thought it would be faster. The nostalgia folks normally wait like a month before shitting on the new thing.

[@GuyWithAnAmazingHat]

Nostalgia used to be diagnosed as a mental illness, it's a phenomenon that straight up clouds people's perception of reality.

[@reverieofmusic436]

The betas for SF6 had more content than SFV did even a year after its release. These people are insane, and I'm not even that into SF6

[@masterofdoom5000]

These motherfuckers would have ended Capcoms fighting game career if they had to play LAUNCH SF3 in the form of New Generation, this is the best first step in a fighting game I think I have EVER seen.

[@GELTONZ]

That is *NOT* the DOA pricing structure. DOA was $2 per costume, $3 if it's destructable/transformable/an expensive license. $100 season passes got you 100 costumes. Just sayin', DOA5 got a lot of crap for its DLC but it was honestly really well handled and a lot of what they did was way ahead of their time. DOA6...was...just incompetent. You know how people say "notice how the one thing that works is the cash shop"? Not for DOA6, took them 3 months to fix the button that takes you to the Playstation Store. So yeah, THAT ONE was a disaster but it was still under $6 per costume. But beyond that, yeah nah people are crazy. I have a lot of beef with SF6 (largely the roster) but it's better than SF4 and 5 at launch. But then again I think SF5 had a better launch roster though and while I will never forget about the embarrassment that was the SF4 arcade launch roster, the home version roster for that was fine too so...I think I'm gonna blame the roster. It's just the cast of SF2, a few reskins, and an embarassingly small amount of new characters. No SF3, no Alpha unless you count Kimberly, Juri is the only SF4, and if you don't count Luke then the only SF5 is Rashid who was DLC. I mean I get it, SF2 nostalgia is what everyone knows but I think for the actual long time SF fans the roster is pretty poor.

[@AlgaeEater09]

I played SF4, skipped five because it was so bad. Bought six. Best fighting game I’ve ever played

[@Thorax101117]

You basically hit the nail on the head saying literally no other fighting game would've survived a Street Fighter 5 launch. I don't even think Mortal Kombat could've made it out of a SF5 type launch alive. SF6 had a great launch and it can really only get better from there, even with the hiccups so far. Kinda blows my mind that all that guy can complain about is the inputs in 6 being fucky. I'd take fucky inputs over no content, practically nonfunctional online, 8 frames of inbuilt input delay (Fighting Mika with that was so much fun), a rootkit and the only SP mode being fucking survival any day. Hell, at least in 6 costumes are being distributed evenly so far vs Chun Li getting 18 costumes and some dudes only getting 4.

[@NaotaGray]

Imagine defending a game specifically in its first version not having basic game features. We had an entire era of watching players give a thumbs up because they weren't allowed to rematch/ change character. I genuinely feel like Twitter going downhill has done AOE damage to the FGC

[@ShadowBlade79]

The fact that anybody would even attempt to compare Vanilla SF6 to Vanilla SFV is funny to the point of being insulting. I have my issues with SF6 at the moment, but these are things that can be addressed over time. As a product, SF6 absolutely nailed it on launch; they clearly learned a few lessons. Definitely the best SF launch we've had in years.

[@BoomerangKuwanger12]

Its crazy thinking about launch SFV. I preordered that shit cause I loved playing SF4, and this was WAY before I even knew about the greater FGC or any competitive shit, mostly playing Single Player content at home, and even I remember how horrible it was. To this day I can distinctly remember my face when I opened that character select and was greeted by Banana Hair Ken, No Blanka and No Guile. Main menu had no story, I don't even think it had training, and no combo trials, which were my favorite thing to do). It's so funny being part of the FGC now and seeing that I was not the only one who was there for that shit, even as an outsider I knew that shit was ass LOL!

[@malik2978]

You a real one for this cause I see these tweets and I'm like these people gotta be from a alternative universe 😂

[@Se7enRemain]

Time is a fucking circle, dude. Anybody remember how angry Gootecks and Mike Ross were about Ultra SF4? Remember how it suddenly became a real game when SF5 dropped? The current game is always shit and the last game always rules

[@Se7enRemain]

Wait... I made this exact comment already LMFAO. I didn't even realize. That's hilarious

[@Gustavozxd13]

I haven't even played that much of SF5 but somehow that connection lost sound effect will be tattooed into my brain for the rest of my life

[@thatguysixx]

Damn street fighter players doing what call of duty players do every year 😂 saying the previous game was better then the current one

[@SuperLegendOfBros]

Always have.

[@Arassar]

CoD players might have a point, though

[@EvilPineappl]

Cod 4 was the best tho.

[@kye4216]

Anyone who thinks 8 frames of delay is “working” needs their head checked.

[@ZanzaSFL]

They conveniently forget how angry people were with capcom even before SFV’s full release because characters were getting rebalanced during the beta tests. People were actually having a lot of fun with characters in beta, only to get the following beta and learn that characters were being allowed to do less and less as time went on. We had way too many opportunities to play SF6 before release imo, which may be adding to these feelings that the game is already really stale, but at the very least nobody felt like the game was progressively getting worse with each beta.

[@slifer875]

People who want to fucking defend SFV and capcom for 1 secondm , may i remind you of the Altimor SFV fan netcode patch saga?

[@soseji_pan012]

I'm just glad the jp street fighter communities are thriving, I hope the interests also bled to other fg like gbvsr and whatnot in the long run also can't wait for evo japan, hope them streamers like shaka etc showed up

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

I love the stuff that happing with Street Fighter 6. The one patch can feel a little tough but it's definitely way better than the beginning of SFV. Looking forward to the future for sure.

[@renann3]

"At least SFV had working inputs at launch" it also had 8 frames of lag at launch

[@mrbuu82]

It is worth noting that SFV came out in February 2016 and A Shadow Falls did not come out until June or July 2016. Regardless of how much you like or dislike SF6, it has significantly more single player content at launch than SFV did.

[@ThatWolfArrow]

People who say sf5 is better than 6 whilist ignoring the fact that 5 spent half its life swimming in dogwater really be on jester time. You're comparing a vanilla game to an endgame product, get over yourselves.

[@yabbadabbindude]

I remember a comment that stuck with me during SF5 release, " the worst thing SF5 did was make people think SF4 was a good game" . Meaning people didn't even think SF4 was a complete enough product

[@doogies]

also kinda true lol

[@GC_GordonChow]

People really did forget that SFV was once a legit security hazard at one point in its lifespan. The delusion is real.

[@ekwensu8797]

Crazy thing is, i started playing sf during seasom 5 sf5 and i remember seeing everyone trashing sf5 whenever i wanted to learn more about the game, saying it was a travesty, for various earned and unearned reasons. I remember how discouraging it was to learn the game because of the constant complaining. Sf5 players doing the same to sf6 is funny af. It's also kind of silly imo

[@genuwine21]

It is so strange that we live in the age where everything is documented and can be easily googled if you wanted to see legacy discourse on the launch of a game. However people will post takes where they romanticize a time that was bad. That is some beaten wife type sickness.

[@visiongap6042]

SFV literally had a root kit on launch which let people access your OPERATING SYSTEM. Revisionist history is crazy.

[@King-N]

Considering my own experience, in which a fair few folks will say some sh’t in a conversation, vehemently. With their whole self. And then minutes into that same conversation you bring up what they said for one reason or another, and with that same energy from mere moments prior, they’re like “I never said that!”, it doesn’t surprise me that folks would be remixing things from 2016…😅

[@sorubro2193]

SFV being missed by someone is so funny to me

[@nomoon327]

there's characters from it I miss but that's all I'm glad we're past that game

[@eggbreakerdotexe]

@@nomoon327I've made peace with the fact that we'll probably never see Seth again.

[@shadowofthenorthstar989]

the only thing i miss from SFV are the characters that are not in 6 yet and the music and costumes that's it

[@abdelkarimouzzine5671]

SFV Dan is unironically one of the most fun characters to play in SF history

[@MisterAcolyte]

Street fighter 5 literally launched as a beta. Didn't even have an arcade mode for years smh.

[@thegloop5018]

the 25k concurrent players on steamcharts was super wild to me as someone who kinda fell off this game after months of existing in a community consisting almost entirely of doomer crybabies, you love to see those numbers. people definitley have the right to bitch about a lot choices capcom have made with this game but at some point you have to either give the cope a rest for ten minutes or just find a game you actually enjoy its also super funny to see people defend launch sfv at all when that shit would have been sub-dnf duel giga shadow realm tier if it wasn't the ryu from streets game, like beyond umineko golden fantasia obscurity

[@arpadszabo661]

Vanilla SFV was not even close to vanilla SF6. Even now, the only thing SFV has over SF6 is character numbers. That’s it.

[@Yuki_1927]

After all those discussions about games being dead I concluded that games have different planes of existence and can be dead or alive in any given one. So, SF6 dead in the mainstream discussion? yeah, maybe. SF6 is dead in player count and support? No, what the fuck are you talking about?

[@kilaquill2537]

Holy shit I forgot about the Cammy Air Throw that looked so fucking stupid lmao, that part had me rolling

[@BlueLightningSky]

End of life, beginning of life it doesn't matter. Every character in 6 will be more interesting than their counterpart in V. In V Chun Li's vskill 2 is a move that she's had for a long time, in 6 it's just a special move.

[@steamyrobotlove]

I’m assuming most of the hot takes are teenagers or ppl new to the genre. And if not… good god.

[@BHS289]

I liked SFV but anyone pining for launch/year 1 SFV over dealing with working out their issues in SF6 is giving me second-hand embarrassment

[@williampounds5191]

Launch SF6 is so much better than 4 and especially 5 it isn't funny. If this series survived 5 it's got a bright fuckin future going into 6 as long as they dont drop the ball.

[@Arel0e]

SFV felt like 2007 FGC for me. Forced me to play other games again. Like in 2007, Tekken 5, Melty, Arcana, Marvel, and Fightcade.

[@barrybusan1294]

"Hey guys at least Halo 5 had Ranked Slayer at launch." Also shout out to the 'Abigail is fine' video

[@sirramsey]

getting featured in a majin obama video is an honor. For the record I like SF6 and think it’s way better than SFV at launch.

[@doogies]

Just say the inputs are bad (everyone knows/agrees they are) but when you, in context, try to be like "at least sfv did THIS" bro that convo goes south REAL quick lol. Be well, no hate

[@yourdagan]

Thanks for this video. The discourse coming from dedicated SF6 haters has been insane.

[@Ronin8300]

Glad I'm not online enough to have noticed the SF6 doomposting before this. SF6 has been nothing short of excellent at launch. The only misstep from the SF6 team has been the pricing for costumes. And I can admit this as a SF4 boomer.

[@arsonne]

Love this take. SF6 is better than SFV ever was. People are just incredibly spoiled and complain no matter what.

[@gamer-qk8vd]

I default assume every first version of a fighting game is gonna be a little goofy. Fighting games only really reach their fully polished forms after years of refining so I think it's worth restraining judgement till patches start dropping

[@Dysleksikk]

I remember playing SFV for the first time on a demo PS4 at work. Place was so dead I was hitting shoryuken on lvl 5 Cpu's and getting paid.

[@armandopineiro4022]

Its actually impressive how quickly people switched it up even after sfv being so hated, so consistently

[@logandunlap9156]

just as fucking predicted, people are now saying SFV was not so bad. same people who were saying that shit was satan on earth while it was the most current SF

[@shrikelet]

Netcode. That's how you shut these people down. Just one word. People who don't have a scene in their town, who don't have a local, who can't get to majors. We all get to play now.

[@HeroicJei]

As a SF4 player, 5 on launch was atrocious. I returned that shit.

[@Shidobuz]

People have forgotten the real struggles we went through with Sf5. They need to make up shit to complain about.

[@GoodDudeMadWorld]

Best thing about sf5 it got me to play other fighting game.

[@rydakule]

SF4 was hype and I was late to the party but I loved it. Was so excited for SF5. Preordered. Copped a new stick. Never been more disappointed in my life.

[@JohnXuandou]

I don't even know how anyone could ever forgive SFV for its many sins. Remember the rootkit on PC when that came out? Very cool, Capcom. The one I love to point out because absolutely no one remembers or even heard of it was that SFV was SUPPOSED to get a Linux port, officially announced and updates posted on Steam and everything. Then they just pretended like no one heard about that shit and stopped talking about it. People probably think it's not important to have a Linux port, but when the Steam Deck was announced, they were demoing units with SFV because it was still one of the big games at the time. Imagine if there was a Linux port of SFV to run natively on the Steam Deck instead of having to use Windows wrappers. Hell, that might have been why they were making a Linux port to begin with.

[@AdamSandlerFan]

the fact that this narrative wasn't bad for the first few months of release with 6. while SFV was panned BEFORE it even came out thanks to SFIV and the game being ridiculously slow. shows that 6 will be fine, i honestly had no idea people were saying this because i thought the longest narrative was that they were happy to be done with 5 hell i would still consider 5 the worst day 1 purchase i've ever made and i almost never buy games day 1 because of it

[@JiBbo]

How do you watch a new Majin video without liking it first? I need help

[@doogies]

lmao...im sorry

[@slifer875]

For what exactly? SFV was straight up trash for 3 years straight and upgraded to "passable" after 4 years, it launch as a fucking full price early access game, with shitty models and netcode, while charging ridiculous prices for "extra" content that should be on the disc, as a street fighter game its even worse than SF4.

[@theoya]

What I remember from not too long ago is everyone scrambling to scrape up content about fighting games because they couldn't think of anything else to do, and the endless "Will X save the FGC?" clickbait. Well Japan is out there showing how to bring excitement to the game and recruit new people into the FGC with the events they're holding. We should have something like the CR Cup out here in the west helping get people excited about Street Fighter or whatever other cool fighting games. iDom vs Shine is cool, but it aint got shit on Crying Streamer Girl vs Sheeva Stomp.

[@BlackMageLozi]

I'll go back to that video when SF7 is released and people say they like the 6's music better xd

[@MasterScrub]

If people are on twitter calling your game dead... it ain't dead. An ACTUAL dead game is going to have exactly zero discussion about it in any way.

[@BlahNetworkBro]

“Sooo what can I get out the way first, if you spend a lot of time on Twitter” 😂😂😂💀😭

[@LuisBras-ct1uq]

I like sf6 way more than sf5, I couldn't even play with my friends cuz of the net code. Sfv was barley a game at launch. From the stupid looking models to the lack of content and bad net code. Sf6 has been super fun

[@RGV_FALCO]

Vanilla SFV slander remains unbeatable. People don't forget, especially those who were left behind LMAO

[@JeffGessas]

The input system was not fine, the shit had 8f of input lag at best. Dashes were like 16-18 frames. You gonna react to a dash in 10 frames brother?

[@Dude902]

I can't wait for them to add Drive V-Shift again

[@JameboHayabusa]

I mostly just remember some big names in the Capcom crowd calling anyone with criticism for SFV a scrub. Even if it was the shitty ass netcode. Thats when i decided to start taking any and all street fighter player opinions, and throwing them in the trash.

[@ekwensu8797]

Oh shit that happened?

[@user-bkey]

if i saw someone unironically say sfv's launch was better than sf6 id probably have to personally do a drug test on them cuz the amount of crack in their system is probably insane

[@FrMZTsarmiral]

Sadly, stuff like Blue Checkmarks in Twitter only make idiots making this argument/fueling it even more common. This is the type of shit that before would have been just a troll comment for like a few days and then everyone would've moved on.

[@doogies]

Blue checkmark was such an L. Site is unusable in its current state

[@MTLxSpider]

ono apology video with minion cosplay in the game. peek era

[@kyonmode]

REST IN PEACE P2 SIDE CHUN JUGGLE 2016-2016