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@propakindustries22
@propakindustries22 11 ай бұрын
The Mr McMahon character looks like a saint compared to the real Vince.
@ChickenNugNugz2
@ChickenNugNugz2 11 ай бұрын
Others have to dial it up to 11 on screen to play a character of themselves. Vince had to dial back how evil he is. I suppose we have to be thankful he only made Trish bark like a dog, and not shit like one too.
@propakindustries22
@propakindustries22 11 ай бұрын
@@ChickenNugNugz2 Ashley Massaro took her own life. I speculate that she suffered at the hands of the boss.
@rashidadams8327
@rashidadams8327 11 ай бұрын
True hey!
@benrichards399
@benrichards399 11 ай бұрын
The only difference is one takes a dump in a toilet, and the other takes one on a face...
@SubZero_125
@SubZero_125 11 ай бұрын
@@propakindustries22 She got raped over seas and vince and WWE covered it up.
@UltimateSenshi
@UltimateSenshi 11 ай бұрын
They always said the best characters are wrestlers who have their own personality dialed up to 10. Mr McMahon character was Vinces personality dialed down to 3
@crimsonfire6932
@crimsonfire6932 11 ай бұрын
It’s crazy to think that Vince had to hold back his real personality to make it tv presentable and still ended up with basically the best character of all time. This dude is made of something different.
@GillBoldberg
@GillBoldberg 11 ай бұрын
“If you knew who I really was you would not like me.” A quote from a private conversation McMahon had with Russo back in the day.
@phoenixmodellingphotography
@phoenixmodellingphotography 11 ай бұрын
The one private Russo anecdote I believed. Vince is literally as close to being irl Patrick Bateman that you could possibly get
@deadpilled2942
@deadpilled2942 11 ай бұрын
​@@phoenixmodellingphotographyHe's less Million Dollar Man, and more Corporate Kane?
@stewartfennell8926
@stewartfennell8926 11 ай бұрын
I hope Jim Ross gets well soon
@billwebber400
@billwebber400 11 ай бұрын
The one thing that scares me is every time I watch his podcast he's smoking cigarettes
@timbow1356
@timbow1356 11 ай бұрын
​@@billwebber400and at the same time he keeps saying he's actively working on becoming healthy. I like him too and hope for the best.
@Matt-cr4vv
@Matt-cr4vv 11 ай бұрын
It’s understandable to dislike that he picked back up a bad habit that we’re all aware of but in the end it’s his call. People constantly pestering him about it just gets silly after awhile. There isn’t a smoker alive that isn’t aware that cigarettes are bad for you yet people constantly throw it out at people as if it’s some secret that they’re not aware of. It’s a tough addiction to break and if it was a super easy thing to just walk away from people would do it but that’s not the case. It would be great if he quit again but in the end he’s a grown man and what he chooses it his call and he isn’t under some illusion that it isn’t a poor habit.
@tuttlevalley
@tuttlevalley 11 ай бұрын
Meltzer should track down and interview Nailz about his allegations against Vince.
@jamesstephenson8789
@jamesstephenson8789 11 ай бұрын
Dave should actually interview people and get facts instead of hearsay on things he’s been called out on many times I’ve even called him out on being wrong and he blocked me on Twitter
@markedly1013
@markedly1013 11 ай бұрын
True.
@ianraguse6455
@ianraguse6455 11 ай бұрын
​@@jamesstephenson8789 yeah that sounds like meltzer to a tee
@deadpilled2942
@deadpilled2942 11 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure Nailz held him up for more money though. Nailz even had John Nord watch the door because Nailz knew he might have to scare Vince into giving up a better payout. I believe Nailz also thought he was more important to WWE than he was.
@IAEMThatIAEM
@IAEMThatIAEM 11 ай бұрын
​@@jamesstephenson8789meltzer is an HHH guy so the old ideas are outdated with vince being gone
@user-cr4pz5yg7y
@user-cr4pz5yg7y 11 ай бұрын
This is single handedly the best thing that could have ever happened for the wrestling biz. I am glad i was here to witness it. My condolences to the victims, but you will be heroes, even if you never know.
@carbocookies
@carbocookies 11 ай бұрын
Regarding the Snuka murder case, in Snuka's book, Snuka says that Vince arrived at a meeting with Snuka and the Police with a briefcase with something in it and then the Police let him go afterwards. Also there had allegedly been communication between Vince and the victim Nancy Argentino for a while.
@Robert-nu4vc
@Robert-nu4vc 11 ай бұрын
Vince definitely helped Snuka get cleared of her murder. By the time justice finally caught up to Snuka, he had mush for brains and couldn't stand trial. He got away with murder for decades, and it sickens me because I liked Snuka as a kid and they swept that shit right under the rug. I never even knew about Nancy's murder until many years later, long after I became an adult.
@chrischar9428
@chrischar9428 11 ай бұрын
​@@Robert-nu4vcsame will happen with vince
@Simouno
@Simouno 11 ай бұрын
Said it last week and it's only gonna ring truer everytime some new details pop up about Vince behavior. He is gonna drag the company down with him and Ari Emanuel will soon regret having struck a deal with the devil
@EL2VI
@EL2VI 11 ай бұрын
No he won’t
@marioargiropoulos7555
@marioargiropoulos7555 11 ай бұрын
You think this is going to affect business? Why would it?
@Ginric99
@Ginric99 11 ай бұрын
@@marioargiropoulos7555if things get really bad then the company will need to fold and reform as a new organisation. The name WWE may well become so tainted. There are going to be multiple other people shown to have either been directly involved in abuse, or have known about it and turned a blind eye (HHH must have had some idea), would be interesting to know if Stephanie or Shane have ever left there children alone with Vince? I am sometimes convinced Stephanie initially got with HHH to keep herself safe,
@peteparry9730
@peteparry9730 11 ай бұрын
I agree. I honestly believe before this is over it could destroy the WWE as we know it. If AEW wants to make a move like WCW did back in the Monday Night War days, NOW is the time!
@rollandcurtisfromVermont
@rollandcurtisfromVermont 11 ай бұрын
8:37 Well she tried to lead the audience in a “Thank you Vince” chant, but they started about 10 seconds before she could finish her short speech. It was a bit out-of-sync and she did not have enough awareness to realize that her speech including statements that would alone prompt the audience to begin the “Thank you Vince” chant.
@IAEMThatIAEM
@IAEMThatIAEM 11 ай бұрын
Meltzer is an HHH guy so his 'aew bias' narrative is really over
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 11 ай бұрын
He also accused HHH of knowing last week, then yesterday a report comes out stating Vince signed off on multiple ndas without the company's knowledge.​@IAEMThatIAEM
@dogmd7
@dogmd7 11 ай бұрын
Asking about Ari and why he let it happen and why Nick Khan said what he did... who'd have thought billionaires were such horrible people?
@rubberchix
@rubberchix 11 ай бұрын
You know nothing
@Xylot
@Xylot 11 ай бұрын
@@rubberchix how do those boots taste?
@rubberchix
@rubberchix 11 ай бұрын
@@Xylot you're a virgin
@Ginric99
@Ginric99 11 ай бұрын
Ari came out when the Harvey Weinstein accusations started and stated that Miramax should have sacked him from the board as soon as the first lawsuit landed. He will not go easy here, but, remember Vince had a lot of power just by rights of the amount of shares he holds so there had to be a clear plan to push him out. The really surprising thing is that Netflix agreed the deal knowing all the stuff swirling around Vince.
@peteparry9730
@peteparry9730 11 ай бұрын
I would!
@erick_solar
@erick_solar 11 ай бұрын
Now is even more cringe to watch people making ovations to him when he walked to the ring.
@Buckdawg
@Buckdawg 11 ай бұрын
I never did. Always hated that foul specimen.
@patbrooks9823
@patbrooks9823 11 ай бұрын
Ranks up there with teen rapist Roman Polanski getting a standing ovation at the Oscars.
@boneivy4382
@boneivy4382 11 ай бұрын
I'm embarrassed to be a wrestling fan when i see people caping for Vince. Why would you side with a real life movie villain? Bad parenting I guess.
@Adam-vs2in
@Adam-vs2in 11 ай бұрын
You know all of those uncomfortable segments where Vince humiliated women in their bra and panties in the ring, directed the edge/lita mini porn in the bed, and when HHH in kanes mask pretended to get it on with a dead girl in a casket in a real funeral home? How many kids were watching those as they happened with their parents? I watched wwf on and off for decades because of stuff like that and I was in my 20s when all of that happened. I couldn’t imagine having kids sit and watch those segments live with me. I would have been horrified.
@Christopherjazzcat
@Christopherjazzcat 11 ай бұрын
It is exposing a lot of people as being absolute garbage human beings. It makes me wonder what skeletons they've got in their closet that they think they need to defend the scumbag.
@alexllamas1791
@alexllamas1791 11 ай бұрын
Man i was about 10 during the attitude era. Even as a kid i knew a lot of stuff he did was messed up lol
@IAEMThatIAEM
@IAEMThatIAEM 11 ай бұрын
making trish bark like a dog and making out with her when she was so over... what a dirtbag.. ​@@Adam-vs2in
@similaritiesendhere
@similaritiesendhere 11 ай бұрын
There are 2 or 3 generations of Americans brainwashed into celebrity worship. Wait til they're in charge. P.S. Don't forget Stephanie refusing to do an incest storyline Vince suggested.
@xShoTime83x
@xShoTime83x 11 ай бұрын
The Federal Government gonna finish their story before Cody does. 😆
@billwebber400
@billwebber400 11 ай бұрын
At least Vince McMahon and John Laurinaitis need to go to prison for the rest of their lives! My heart goes out to that young lady and neither one of them ever need to see the light of day again and if they do it's through bars and fence and anyone else involved in the office needs to find the same punishment. I have read those pages and it just breaks my heart🙏🙏🙏
@xShoTime83x
@xShoTime83x 11 ай бұрын
@@billwebber400 Amen! 🙏
@similaritiesendhere
@similaritiesendhere 11 ай бұрын
Bruh... Which story do you think matters more?
@IAEMThatIAEM
@IAEMThatIAEM 11 ай бұрын
​@@billwebber400Her parents looking down from heaven be like : "electric chair for both of them"
@ronniesouthern7829
@ronniesouthern7829 11 ай бұрын
I could be wrong but I think Vince may delete himself if he ever gets convicted and put away.
@aashishdesai478
@aashishdesai478 11 ай бұрын
Difference is SOCIAL MEDIA- today you can’t hide the details And details will kill you -
@marsspacex6065
@marsspacex6065 11 ай бұрын
The Vince McMahon Stacey Keebler audition is on KZbin 😂
@rin-eri
@rin-eri 11 ай бұрын
“Nobody is perfect” yes but not everyone is a sex trafficker “He will never be able to find perfect people to run the company” perfect like what? Perfect at running a business? Yeah that’s true. Perfect record? Surely he can do better than people who aided and abetted sex trafficking.
@Xylot
@Xylot 11 ай бұрын
Right? "Nobody is perfect" is reserved for small whoopsie-daisies, not rape and sex trafficking.
@jakeyflakes00
@jakeyflakes00 11 ай бұрын
Yeah Dave’s whole reaction here just had me dumbfound, I was like, dude it’s not like he was late for work too many times.
@similaritiesendhere
@similaritiesendhere 11 ай бұрын
It's shocking that this story hasn't even touched what Vince may have done to male employees. That's a ticking time bomb
@onewarriornation602
@onewarriornation602 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, can't wait for all the dirt to come out regarding Vince's special romantic relationship with Yawn Michaels.
@similaritiesendhere
@similaritiesendhere 11 ай бұрын
@@onewarriornation602 Worse than that. Look up what happened to the teenage "ring boys". It's not hidden.
@similaritiesendhere
@similaritiesendhere 11 ай бұрын
@@onewarriornation602 Lee Cole has a video showing official documents stating that the feds have a decades old video a WWE exec filming a foot fetish video with a little boy. No actual sex was filmed so they went after the steroid case instead. They can subpoena any of those kids as to why they were performing dangerous work while underage and being trafficked across state lines. What comes out during interviews could tank pro-wrestling.
@onewarriornation602
@onewarriornation602 11 ай бұрын
@@similaritiesendhere Oh I know, it is sickening and has been confirmed by numerous talents that Patterson was a creep and degenerate and that it didn't stop.
@billwebber400
@billwebber400 11 ай бұрын
God bless Jim Ross and thank you both for mentioning him, a man that's been in wrestling longer than I've been alive🙏❤
@IAEMThatIAEM
@IAEMThatIAEM 11 ай бұрын
He will be ok. and if not..he has lived a great life.
@MIKWOG1
@MIKWOG1 11 ай бұрын
Steph did that thank you chant to Vince to change the narrative with fans and to protect the stock price. She knew they would be selling out and paid out according to that stock price.
@user-py6sy4zm1v
@user-py6sy4zm1v 11 ай бұрын
Stephanie leading the thank you vince chant shows she knew what happend and didnt gaf
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 11 ай бұрын
Stop.
@deadeyedarwin
@deadeyedarwin 11 ай бұрын
Obviously there's a difference, but it's hard not to think about the positions Lita and Trish Stratus were put in, the same damaged mind was behind that.
@catheydaniel6952
@catheydaniel6952 11 ай бұрын
I still remember and love Trish for kicking Vince in the balls. Great moment. But as disgusted as I was with was with that treatment, the worst for me was when Kat was there and part of Devons religious cult and they stood her on stage and wanted to make her strip and treated her badly. Jerry Lawler ran into the ring and protected her. Her tears were real. I think her contract ended after that.
@luisrizo8813
@luisrizo8813 11 ай бұрын
If only New Jack lived to see this.
@BlueBloodPenn
@BlueBloodPenn 11 ай бұрын
They can scrub the game and advertisements very easily. That should not be an issue.
@sionrouge1697
@sionrouge1697 11 ай бұрын
You've agreed to purchase a company where the previous owner had multiple allegations and settlements and you also kept that former owner as an advisor. You're libel. I would be surprised if this company is still around in 3 years
@johnbaudhuin2987
@johnbaudhuin2987 11 ай бұрын
I think you meant to say liable
@sionrouge1697
@sionrouge1697 11 ай бұрын
@@johnbaudhuin2987 you got the point right ?
@johnbaudhuin2987
@johnbaudhuin2987 11 ай бұрын
@@sionrouge1697 well, libel is very different from liability. Vince is guilty of a shitload of things but not libel, at least in this case.
@johnbaudhuin2987
@johnbaudhuin2987 11 ай бұрын
@@sionrouge1697 listen man, the no child left behind act fucked a lot of shit up in the education system in this country. I'm just trying to provide a little bit of correctness to inform people so that there isn't a generation of cretins that don't know the difference.
@sionrouge1697
@sionrouge1697 11 ай бұрын
@@johnbaudhuin2987 perhaps you need reading comprehension classes. I never said VINCE I SAID TKO.
@patkob2180
@patkob2180 11 ай бұрын
Alot of people have complained on Wwe over th years...Shawn Michaels had a specila relationship with VKM, Nailz , Machoman and stephanie , Patterson with the ring kids, Sable, That diva that killed herself because of accusing Wwe for it. Chyna being blacklisted....bad people ...I feel triple h is next (not because of sex stuff) but because he knows where the bodies are.
@jonpower9728
@jonpower9728 11 ай бұрын
To the general public, wrestling is always that niche interest that gets a lot of eye rolling, and the only time it's seen by non-fans is during the times wrestling doesn't wish to be seen.
@CK2008able
@CK2008able 11 ай бұрын
Well, the Rock shafting Cody out of finishing his story and the match against Roman is certainly a way to take some attention away from the Vince story.
@christophermarriott1681
@christophermarriott1681 11 ай бұрын
😂 Good luck with that. Vince McMahon will still be talked about.
@DriversOfLife
@DriversOfLife 11 ай бұрын
Thank you bro for pointing out the stupidity
@Adam-vs2in
@Adam-vs2in 11 ай бұрын
One thing is real and affected people. The other does not.
@peteparry9730
@peteparry9730 11 ай бұрын
And that's partially the reason it was done at this time, aside from the $millions$ it will make.
@MyChannel-ol1zz
@MyChannel-ol1zz 11 ай бұрын
The drones still out in full force defending SA.
@calebroush8466
@calebroush8466 11 ай бұрын
Let’s not forget the time when Dave and Vince were on the Phil Donahue show back in the day which you can watch on KZbin when Vince and company were being blamed for sexually harassing and assaulting men and young teens.
@chm9935
@chm9935 11 ай бұрын
That hasnt aged well for vince.
@aaronhaineault8989
@aaronhaineault8989 11 ай бұрын
I think Vince is gonna get the Chris Benoit treatment his name not to be mentioned anymore
@DjGQFame
@DjGQFame 11 ай бұрын
Get well JR!!!
@jawadzanayed9631
@jawadzanayed9631 11 ай бұрын
ENABLERS!!!!! ENABLERS fuel the Evil WWE
@deljay1840
@deljay1840 11 ай бұрын
the clock is ticking on HHH and everyone knows it
@finnishyank7413
@finnishyank7413 11 ай бұрын
Johnny Ace all but confirmed what Ms Grant said when he said he was a victim of Vince.
@tomf00lery
@tomf00lery 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, wouldn't be surprised if he turns on Vince for a deal and that's what his "victim" statement was setting up
@peteparry9730
@peteparry9730 11 ай бұрын
Personally I think Laurenitis is full of shit about being a "victim" (yeah, he raped Ms Grant while Vince held her down just because Vince told him to?) BUT I think his testimony in defense of himself will serve to corroborate Ms Grant's allegations.
@tomf00lery
@tomf00lery 11 ай бұрын
@@peteparry9730 Exactly.
@finnishyank7413
@finnishyank7413 11 ай бұрын
@@peteparry9730 That's my thought too
@thepolarphantasm2319
@thepolarphantasm2319 11 ай бұрын
Trump and McMahon rekindling their feud in prison wasnt on my 2024 bingo card but you never know... anything can happen in the department of corrections
@GNARLY_91
@GNARLY_91 11 ай бұрын
L
@sammmm87
@sammmm87 11 ай бұрын
​@GNARLY_91 yep big Ls for Trump n McMahon incoming
@RowbuttBatmin
@RowbuttBatmin 11 ай бұрын
Except Trumps coming back to the white house :) enjoy.
@RowbuttBatmin
@RowbuttBatmin 11 ай бұрын
​@@sammmm87keep coping come November lmaooo
@armchairqb2994
@armchairqb2994 11 ай бұрын
Trump derange syndrome is strong with this one
@MyChannel-ol1zz
@MyChannel-ol1zz 11 ай бұрын
They want to be main stream until their disturbing crimes and actions come to light.
@cancelculture9953
@cancelculture9953 11 ай бұрын
The Real Depravity is this The Rock booking.
@TheFinishedArticle
@TheFinishedArticle 11 ай бұрын
I always suspected Vince had a dark side but not to this extent, Jeez some of the stuff i have read these past few days is insane. Not even Weinstein sh!t on people’s heads.
@onewarriornation602
@onewarriornation602 11 ай бұрын
Is it really THAT shocking, though? I mean this is a 40 year thing. - That blonde ring announcer in the 1980's who sued Vince for sexual assault. - The Ring Boy Scandal - Countless talent coming forward about being sexually harassed by Pat Patterson, who kept his job. - Roddy Piper admitting Alfred Hayes sexually assaulted him, as well as other WWF talent without repercussions. - The Nailz incident. - The Sable incidents and pay off. - His sexual relationship with Michaels - Speaking of that and what we know now, was that the reason The Klique was shitting in talents bags backstage? A subliminal message that they knew about his fetishes? - The incidents from two years ago - The Ashley Massaro bullying - This latest incident. It has been going on for four decades now. Not really a shocker that it's finally catching up to Vince.
@adriancage87
@adriancage87 11 ай бұрын
Erasing Vince is erasing the attitude era. Would that limit the wwe library on netflix?
@CarolinaBlood704
@CarolinaBlood704 11 ай бұрын
It's his own fault.
@kingslayer2999
@kingslayer2999 11 ай бұрын
Vince McMahon getting the Benoit treatment. Oh how ironic 😂
@sammmm87
@sammmm87 11 ай бұрын
​@@CarolinaBlood704sure but we get punished. Some of the great wrestling moments taken away.
@CarolinaBlood704
@CarolinaBlood704 11 ай бұрын
@@sammmm87 I know. It's just f*cked up all around.
@jamesmiller5331
@jamesmiller5331 11 ай бұрын
That's why it's not going to happen. If you're triggered by Vince McMahon, don't watch wrestling.
@governorerbe839
@governorerbe839 11 ай бұрын
Good breakdown on the JR-Johnny Ace relationship.
@jonathankurtisvile6333
@jonathankurtisvile6333 11 ай бұрын
Dave Dudley over here, They fuckin have Benoit is still on the network , Let's not pretend they are going to erase jack shit
@petemaddox1716
@petemaddox1716 11 ай бұрын
They just made it so you can't search for him on the network, the absolute minimum they were willing to do
@jamesmiller5331
@jamesmiller5331 11 ай бұрын
Gives his virgin audience something to be giddy about but I guess they forget that this guy knows nothing.
@marioargiropoulos7555
@marioargiropoulos7555 11 ай бұрын
@@petemaddox1716They shouldn’t do anything more than that. I don’t know why people think there was something honorable about Vince deleting Benoit. There was nothing honorable or principled about it. Deleting Benoit was Vince washing his hands of the situation. It was “out of sight, out of mind”. Hardly a principled thing to do. Why would deleting Vince be seen as a good thing, rather than the company saying “Hey if ya don’t see em on any of our old stuff, it’s like he never existed, right?”. That’s a slap in the face to the victims.
@marioargiropoulos7555
@marioargiropoulos7555 11 ай бұрын
What in your opinion is good about erasing someone from history, outside of distancing themselves from wrong doing? There’s nothing honorable about a company doing that. It’s just covering their own asses.
@strnglhld
@strnglhld 11 ай бұрын
@@marioargiropoulos7555Deleted? His matches are still on the network, you just can’t search for his name, like the original commenter said.
@MABMGuitar
@MABMGuitar 11 ай бұрын
I’m not even defending Vince but the idea that Emanuel is some paragon of virtue is absurd.
@Sockimus
@Sockimus 11 ай бұрын
How much longer does Hayes have a job when he has similar past issues of grooming; Alicia Foxx and Rosa Mendes. Everybody is so quick to show Bruce the door, even though there's no evidence other than Bruce was Vince's #1 right hand creatively, when Hayes has those documented issues with Foxx and Mendes and not a peep. I would be looking more into Michael P Hayes related to this.
@chairmanofthebored
@chairmanofthebored 11 ай бұрын
Terry Taylor has had racism and sexual harassment incidents against him in all three companies he was employed at. Yet he got hired in WWE as a lieutenant for Triple H at the performance center.
@GDavis49
@GDavis49 11 ай бұрын
#BadStreetUSA
@KevinStone-bf5ey
@KevinStone-bf5ey 11 ай бұрын
I've read the civil lawsuit but haven't been able to find a copy of the police report. Can anyone provide a link to where I can find it?
@Bob-k8p
@Bob-k8p 11 ай бұрын
It's not a criminal case. You won't see a police report of any kind until criminal charges are filed.
@Bob-k8p
@Bob-k8p 11 ай бұрын
Which is very likely coming sooner rather than later ..
@KevinStone-bf5ey
@KevinStone-bf5ey 11 ай бұрын
@@Bob-k8p She never pressed charges. Which means this is about money, and nothing else. Not a bad payday for someone who contributed nothing to the company and has no job skills.
@tichtran664
@tichtran664 11 ай бұрын
Huh Kevin word is that Janel and OTHER victims ALREADY talked to the FED. The same Fed who RAIDED Vince McMahon 's home. Rumor has it there WILL be FEDERAL $ex trafficking charges.
@tichtran664
@tichtran664 11 ай бұрын
And ONLY the government ( state or federal) can bring criminal charges not a individual or persons
@KMBExpert
@KMBExpert 11 ай бұрын
Look, I understand Dave not wanting to say for legal purposes, but c'mon man. Everyone may not have known all of the details, but they knew how Vince got down. All of them did.
@jessewahwah
@jessewahwah 11 ай бұрын
Remember when WWE fans were laughing at AEW fans when Cody was still in, "Fight Forever..............."
@slaveages7125
@slaveages7125 11 ай бұрын
wwe needs 2 be finished its crap anyway so no loss there!
@MichaelSampson-en2tz
@MichaelSampson-en2tz 11 ай бұрын
The Rock is doing cody dirty....Just like he did to punk!
@geneanthony3421
@geneanthony3421 11 ай бұрын
Cody is going against Seth at WM. Cody was not beating Reigns at WM. They want him to beat Hogan's streak, which means Cody would have had to lose 2 times against Reigns at WM back to back. Cody didn't need to win the title at WM either. Now, he'll beat Seth. Even if he didn't beat Seth it might have looked bad for him to lose to Reigns again like this and he would have been in a better place beating someone else in a high profile match.
@dashingdreww1185
@dashingdreww1185 11 ай бұрын
He was why else would he win the rumble , Rock wasn’t going to do EC
@christophermarriott1681
@christophermarriott1681 11 ай бұрын
​@@geneanthony3421😂 Cody Rhodes is facing Seth Rollins for a consolation belt. Triple H is the worst booker ever.
@geneanthony3421
@geneanthony3421 11 ай бұрын
@@dashingdreww1185 Cody wasn’t going to win at mania I mean. Roman needed an opponent to beat and Seth needed an opponent to face. Punk would have gone after Seth. Cody wasn’t winning though.
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 11 ай бұрын
​@christophermarriott1681 Roman has the consolation belt. He's never around and barely defends it.
@DeRussellMasina
@DeRussellMasina 11 ай бұрын
Bless you for your early morning post
@IAEMThatIAEM
@IAEMThatIAEM 11 ай бұрын
silver and black 49ers hat blasphemy
@retrokoh
@retrokoh 11 ай бұрын
I have a question. If he IS a victim, then where is the NDA? If he signed one, it should be nulled due to the nature of what isnt being disclosed. Produce it to the court. If he didn't, why didn't he speak up onve they fired him?
@ShootItALBY
@ShootItALBY 11 ай бұрын
Prayers for JR 🙏🙏🙏
@DavidDexterGaming
@DavidDexterGaming 11 ай бұрын
If Vince McMahon suddenly moves to Saudi Arabia, can he still be prosecuted or could he just hide there?
@user-rx2hw8up2j
@user-rx2hw8up2j 11 ай бұрын
Lol American laws don't mean shit to the Saudis
@DavidDexterGaming
@DavidDexterGaming 11 ай бұрын
@@CapraObscura I think Vince will do whatever it takes to avoid jail so he might try other ways first but if it's not looking good for him, I think he'll do that.
@governorerbe839
@governorerbe839 11 ай бұрын
Excellent point, not considered enough
@donkeysaurusrex7881
@donkeysaurusrex7881 11 ай бұрын
@@CapraObscura That time Vince told the crown prince the wrestling show wouldn’t start until he got paid comes to mind as a reason for why the Saudis might not offer him shelter.
@originalrkmorton
@originalrkmorton 11 ай бұрын
I remember how little F4W covered Vince once Levesque took charge of creative. Even as he muscled his way back onto the board, got revenge by dismissing any disloyal members, and obviously still had pull with Creative. Everything was positive for WWE, all good news while generating clicks over how disfunctional AEW was. Where was the outrage this whole time?
@fives.
@fives. 11 ай бұрын
It's funny 'cos Austin/McMahon is the vanguard of wrestling angles, like there are elements of even Andre/Hogan and Flair/Funk or Flair/Rhodes that don't compare. I don't see how you can feasibly erase Vince from the WWE catalogue, even down to random RAW episodes he was doing play-by-play for.
@num1Jaysta
@num1Jaysta 11 ай бұрын
AI his voice to Randy Savage
@letsgochamp2023
@letsgochamp2023 11 ай бұрын
@@num1Jaysta "OHHHH YEAAAH. YOU'RE FIIIIIIREDDD"
@Cyko..
@Cyko.. 11 ай бұрын
@@num1Jaysta Very smart idea. They can make AI do anything these days. Replacing Vince's voice with something else would be quite easy.
@phoenixmodellingphotography
@phoenixmodellingphotography 11 ай бұрын
I doubt they're going to butcher up and neuter their product in an attempt to do something that they know is literally impossible for literally no good reason whatsoever. It goes against everything I've come to know about Ari's approach to business. Unless they've said otherwise I'm sure that "erasing Vince from WWE" most likely means is just not acknowledging he even exists or ever did from this point onwards
@marioargiropoulos7555
@marioargiropoulos7555 11 ай бұрын
They can’t erase him and they won’t. Nor should they.
@martezdetroit3164
@martezdetroit3164 11 ай бұрын
The heels of the 60s, 70s stuff amaze me... They are mad @ the fans because we hate you for real, but they are doing a great job of making us furious and working us ... Make it make sense
@ArthurDent33
@ArthurDent33 11 ай бұрын
“I’m on a tangent but It’ll all come around”. Title of Meltzers biography 😊
@georgekaptur5160
@georgekaptur5160 11 ай бұрын
Does Ari really deserve heat on this? Or was this his plan from the beginning?
@BuddyRose-kt1nu
@BuddyRose-kt1nu 11 ай бұрын
Vince sold to this chump because of this situation. Ari is screwed. Vince has his money, and TKO to protect him legally. Feds are involved now though. Trump would immediately pardon Vince though.
@opinionatedWrestling
@opinionatedWrestling 11 ай бұрын
This is a very sad time, so to try and lighten the mood: what the living fuck is Dave wearing?
@shahzadimam8497
@shahzadimam8497 11 ай бұрын
he is Dude Love's mystery tag team partner 😎
@yosefvargasx
@yosefvargasx 11 ай бұрын
Superstar Billy Graham
@Funkmonkv1
@Funkmonkv1 11 ай бұрын
I hope Cody fans get well soon, they all seem to be butthurt after smackdown.
@kingslayer2999
@kingslayer2999 11 ай бұрын
Its official the Royal Rumble means nothing and Cody Rhodes is BURIED!!!
@user-rx2hw8up2j
@user-rx2hw8up2j 11 ай бұрын
Lol u think they forgot about the sledge hammer incident
@jamesbower6408
@jamesbower6408 11 ай бұрын
That moment when the captain america hulk hogan lie detector segment really ages like fine fjne wine😂😂😂😂
@betunia98
@betunia98 11 ай бұрын
I really want to hear what JR has to say when he gets better hopefully
@rccomics
@rccomics 11 ай бұрын
He’s a guy that will take those secrets to the grave. He probably has more dirt on Vince than almost anyone else and he will never say a thing.
@Adam-vs2in
@Adam-vs2in 11 ай бұрын
@@rccomicshe absolutely knows a lot about Vince and he’s not telling.
@betunia98
@betunia98 11 ай бұрын
@@rccomics I don’t think so I think he was replaced with Johnny Ace because Vince would never even consider asking JR to go along with all the shady stuff
@TheFlyingFox14
@TheFlyingFox14 11 ай бұрын
​@@rccomics Vince, Watts, Flair. JR could write a trilogy on the awful things from those three alone.
@patbrooks9823
@patbrooks9823 11 ай бұрын
He'll still be making excuses for Vince like he's done for years and years and years.
@Dr_1212
@Dr_1212 11 ай бұрын
Get well soon JR Jail vince & all involved
@user-cr4pz5yg7y
@user-cr4pz5yg7y 11 ай бұрын
You would probably have to lock jr up. He was there a loong time and candidly describes treating people like sluts undue of respect on his podcasts.
@nickelstacking2023
@nickelstacking2023 11 ай бұрын
Two are going to Prison
@propakindustries22
@propakindustries22 11 ай бұрын
Cody looked genuinely hurt on smackdown when Dwayne whispered sweet nothings to him in the bro hug.
@ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732
@ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732 11 ай бұрын
It is obvious Cody was crushed. The corporation kicked him out of the main event of Wrestlemania
@mobeeg5868
@mobeeg5868 11 ай бұрын
Fucking felt for him with everything I got. I hate Dwayne. This is why Cena is a top man, he knows he screwed over a lot of people to be that guy, but he tries to make amends now and puts over almost everybody. The rock made it all about him, and didn’t even bother listening to what the fans wanted.
@chm9935
@chm9935 11 ай бұрын
​@@mobeeg5868i was surprised cody was shafted. Makes no sense. The rock will not be enough of a distraction from mcmahon
@mobeeg5868
@mobeeg5868 11 ай бұрын
Looks like God won the rematch.
@deadpilled2942
@deadpilled2942 11 ай бұрын
I know there's more important things, but I'm glad Mrs Baba isn't here to see Johnny Ace turn himself into a toxic degenerate. He can't be allowed to worm his way out of this. That poor woman deserves closure, throw everyone that knew in prison. A private prison, so they can serve their full sentences
@nu-metalfan2654
@nu-metalfan2654 11 ай бұрын
You can’t fucking erase Vince McMahon from WWE history, that’s fucking ridiculous. You can’t erase history, they couldn’t with Benoit even though they tried their hardest to. I always felt WWE were in denial after the Benoit tragedy for years, WWE’s mentality was that it never happened and just forgot Benoit ever existed. And that’s not a healthy mentality to have, to fully recover from such a shock, and tbh since the Benoit tragedy happened I don’t think WWE ever fully recovered from that.
@niners9485
@niners9485 11 ай бұрын
WWE fans cheering for Vince after the allegations is not shocking.
@hiddensword9387
@hiddensword9387 11 ай бұрын
Well they didn't know the full extent did they? Hardly anything had come out at that point.
@Adam-vs2in
@Adam-vs2in 11 ай бұрын
They’ve been desensitized by him for 20+ years humiliating women on TV that they don’t care he did it off camera. It’s messed up because if watching that then or even 5 years ago wasn’t uncomfortable for you to watch then I don’t know what to tell you. Go back and watch him in that demonic voice tell Trish to take her clothes off, and again making her get down on her knees and bark like a dog. That was on freaking TV. I can’t imagine what he did to women off camera.
@xShoTime83x
@xShoTime83x 11 ай бұрын
@@hiddensword9387 Nobody in the public knew just how vile it was, but some are gonna use it as a gotcha.
@deaddropholiday
@deaddropholiday 11 ай бұрын
It's always the guys you least expect ...
@Rorshach1004
@Rorshach1004 11 ай бұрын
😂
@HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM
@HALFBREEDxBILLYxGRAM 11 ай бұрын
ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!!!!
@jlane8750
@jlane8750 11 ай бұрын
13:17 that's a fart
@IAEMThatIAEM
@IAEMThatIAEM 11 ай бұрын
Wrestlers aint heroes.
@chm9935
@chm9935 11 ай бұрын
Vince was cavalier and reckless for decades. Its now caught up with him. His media appearances were a mess---he did himself no favors.
@WrestlingKlinik
@WrestlingKlinik 11 ай бұрын
What ?? Finishes always sucked immensely in WCW. Johnny Ace's contribution is close to zero.
@noodle845
@noodle845 11 ай бұрын
What ever happened with the ring boy scandal?
@sammmm87
@sammmm87 11 ай бұрын
Dave: y'know y'know y'know y'know y'know
@MIKWOG1
@MIKWOG1 11 ай бұрын
Ari knew! They do their legal diligence before they bought the company. With money like his, I’m sure his people knew about details long before it broke. He was standing near Vince ringing the stock bell.
@silveredgrunion7196
@silveredgrunion7196 11 ай бұрын
Bad News Brown won the battle royal at wrestlemania 4 so wouldn't he have been the natural challenger for Savage at the first Summerslam?
@chrischar9428
@chrischar9428 11 ай бұрын
Hadn't they gone around the horn
@silveredgrunion7196
@silveredgrunion7196 11 ай бұрын
@@chrischar9428 yes sir but not on ppv. Madison Square Garden is right near harlem. Home town bad news brown win woulda kicked off the attitude era 10 years early.
@chrischar9428
@chrischar9428 11 ай бұрын
@@silveredgrunion7196 I'm guessing they figured for new big show they wanted something Hogan/Andre
@silveredgrunion7196
@silveredgrunion7196 11 ай бұрын
@@chrischar9428 big show didn't debut til 95
@chrischar9428
@chrischar9428 11 ай бұрын
@@silveredgrunion7196 well ya got me there ....but since we're talking about SUMMERSLAM 88. I don't know what that has to do with anything
@TheHardys01
@TheHardys01 11 ай бұрын
"Welcome everyone to WrestleManiaaaa!!!!!!!" How do you erase that line..........
@donaldmurphy1405
@donaldmurphy1405 11 ай бұрын
Why what did Dana White do,does anyone know?
@Bob-k8p
@Bob-k8p 11 ай бұрын
He got drunk on new years eve with his wife at a bar and slapped her.
@Afronomad23
@Afronomad23 11 ай бұрын
He slapped his wife on camera
@freshparkfilms
@freshparkfilms 11 ай бұрын
ya they all want to talk to you dave 😅 Prayers out to JR 🙏 your a legend reat up Jim we all love ya!
@awil7484
@awil7484 11 ай бұрын
All because he didn’t pay the rest of the NDA money…. a billionaire
@BuddyRose-kt1nu
@BuddyRose-kt1nu 11 ай бұрын
I think Bonnie Hammer probably knows allot about Vince's dirt with women from way back. She's also been one to look the other way if she did know thing's.
@Rko11148
@Rko11148 11 ай бұрын
They better keep the Austin-McMahon feuds on the library
@mrawesome669
@mrawesome669 11 ай бұрын
They better keep everything. I do not like the idea of big daddy censor deciding what we can and can't see from the past. We have to separate the art from the artist.
@davidcwajgenberg6185
@davidcwajgenberg6185 11 ай бұрын
I was fht that too if they'll keep that . Dude they probably won't. The fued that helped Austin. Become so big so that's crazy. No but shit
@Slop_Dogg
@Slop_Dogg 11 ай бұрын
@@mrawesome669no clue if they’ll remove anything library wise, but Vince is going to be persona non grata for the future going forward. he’s not going to be mentioned or shown on broadcast.
@dbgrfdg
@dbgrfdg 11 ай бұрын
As always, the answer is piracy
@MrJonnyl123
@MrJonnyl123 11 ай бұрын
Benoit is still on the network library so vince still will be. Be hilarious if they blur out his face this whole time tho 😂
@jakeyflakes00
@jakeyflakes00 11 ай бұрын
Hey wrestling fans who need this: Pull out of the kayfabe and be a human. This guy is a horrible, horrible person. Stop going to bat for him. It’s over for him. And rightfully so, there’s still time. Anyway here’s my Dave impression: “Umm, yeah so they might have covered up some real depraved acts for an…we’ll just uhh a bad person. But you know *nobodys perfect*” Edit: Well Certainly, you know, it’s kinda you know, and well then, I don’t know.
@brooklynnicole9236
@brooklynnicole9236 11 ай бұрын
Kevin Dunn, Bruce Prichard and Pat Patterson will be brought up I'm predicting.
@RobyTalksWrestling
@RobyTalksWrestling 11 ай бұрын
#wewantdamore I'm asking all TNA fans to support a guy who was good to the talent and put a aolid consistent product on and made us all fans. Please, type it out. Make them heat it. #wewantdamore
@nicklindsey3099
@nicklindsey3099 11 ай бұрын
Vince did this with Brock, who else did he do this to and with?
@boomersunite6922
@boomersunite6922 11 ай бұрын
This could unfold as bad as jeffery epsteins list. I wonder who else was associating with vince besides brock lesnar
@fives.
@fives. 11 ай бұрын
I've been thinking this, I don't know how to bring back Brock without the optics being really, really bad
@raunchyfillups4738
@raunchyfillups4738 11 ай бұрын
Brocks not coming back. Simple
@Krul6
@Krul6 11 ай бұрын
1. Nothing important was on that list. Epsteins business clients are not all pedophiles. 2. Nothing happened with that list because there's nothing important on it. 3. Maxwell is still alive, you freaking weird Epstein nut jobs. Oh and he absolutely killed himself. Sorry, but the bad guy got away in that story
@apjapki
@apjapki 11 ай бұрын
Truth
@stevedl6787
@stevedl6787 11 ай бұрын
Cxl ANYTHING WWE vince named it eradicate the name. Gentlemen FACTS plz Quit speculating.
@bobfromcalgary8453
@bobfromcalgary8453 11 ай бұрын
Bring back the Territories. Everything Sr did Jr just washed it all away. Now that is the seal has been broken watch what happens
@Hangingwithfarrah
@Hangingwithfarrah 11 ай бұрын
Erasing Vince “ you got no chance “
@pingkangchen7368
@pingkangchen7368 11 ай бұрын
Well you know…I dont know…. They know…people know…he know…..
@mattemattics5667
@mattemattics5667 11 ай бұрын
The Monday videos will be interesting
@TheBadderman
@TheBadderman 11 ай бұрын
TK is a perfect person to run a company. A nice guy and a genuine good human being. OH OH OH OH HE TWEETS TOO MUCH!!! HE'S SO EVIL!!! LMAO EDRONE WORLD WRAPE ENTERTAINMENT SUPPORTERS.
@user-rx2hw8up2j
@user-rx2hw8up2j 11 ай бұрын
Your right Tony isn't having sex he definitely ain't graping anybody
@namelessjedi2242
@namelessjedi2242 11 ай бұрын
We still don’t know whether or not he covered up the Jericho thing. Need real answers there.
@TheBadderman
@TheBadderman 11 ай бұрын
@@namelessjedi2242 no accusations have even been made World Wrape Entertainment supporter.
@damonscarface2063
@damonscarface2063 11 ай бұрын
If a heel wrestler dies and fans cheer his death that would be an absolute honor and shows how good he was at being a heel Dave mentioned this old school that die and the fans cheering I believe two reasons why that happened 1. Kayfabe was alive and well and 2. He had to be was of the best heels of all time.
@DevoJetBoy8680
@DevoJetBoy8680 11 ай бұрын
Personal behaviour aside; the dumbest move Vince McMahon made was allowing WWE to become a publicly traded company. It should have remained a McMahon entity and been run by McMahons and McMahons only. Vince should have never sold to TKO and WWE should have been passed down to Shane and Stephanie the way his father passed it down to him, and then to their children after that, and so on. The Wild West days of the WWF were far more appealing to most old school fans and part of the problem IS today's climate! The standards of 2024 have grown ridiculous and nowadays everyone is looking to out somebody for something. What Vince did in this case is above and beyond the acceptable, clearly, but we don't know the full facts and her text responses to him will certainly paint a bigger picture. Either way, if I had the chance to hop on a time machine back to the glory days of wrestling and the WWF when what happened on the road stayed on the road, I definitely would. A subset of the wrestling audience of today leaves FAR more to be desired in many ways!
@vinnymac14
@vinnymac14 11 ай бұрын
greed
@peteparry9730
@peteparry9730 11 ай бұрын
I agree with you about how McMahon should have passed the company down just as his grandfather and his dad did before him. But Vince was too egotistical and wanted the acclaim that went with being a publicly traded company, and the additional billions $ that came with the sale.
@justinsmith424
@justinsmith424 11 ай бұрын
Vince is gonna hide in Saudi
@mw66683
@mw66683 11 ай бұрын
Kayfabe has really been a buffier for the real, serious stories.
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