There's more Vince McMahon allegations out there | Bryan & Vinny Show

[@LotusFlowerMedia]

Vince isn’t the hero who lived to become the villain. He was a villain who lived to enjoy it.

[@dan7478]

And maybe, will live to regret it.

[@curtissimmons2287]

What if Stacy keibler and randy orton had sex and vince watched them

[@3581richard]

Vince is getting his.Best believe that.He’s gotten off Scott free way too long and they know that.

[@markcurtis8653]

⁠@@dan7478nope he’d do it all over again, he’s rich as hell what will he regret (bearing in mind he is the way he is)

[@johnnieriot13]

@@dan7478doubt it

[@InterdimensionalCowlick]

Vince has been telling us who he is with every segment he ever booked with a diva on raw. He flaunted it.

[@flifreddie]

Those trish stratus segments years ago and i was a teeneager then an i was like wtf!!!

[@tocsyelrom2889]

Hidden in plain sight

[@Bubba__Sawyer]

I was always so grossed out by those segments where he's groping and making out with the divas.

[@DJMKC24]

I was making this point the other day. Much like R Kelly in his music. He was telling us but we didn’t believe it because it’s entertainment

[@pureimpact4658]

Absolutely!💯 😊

[@ChickenNugNugz2]

This is the man he has always been. This isnt like a sudden personality change when he hit 70. This is just who he is.

[@mutedmutiny9542]

And there have been tons of signs over the years that he’s not a good guy. They brought up the sneezing thing which has always stood out to me, because it’s like something he would get upset about that’s completely involuntary, but someone else would sneeze and he would be disgusted by it, or if he sneezed himself he would get upset that he “didn’t have self control” or something. And then recently Goldust recently told a story about how he was the agent for a woman’s match and it was awful, but it was because the girls didn’t do what they were supposed to do, but in the end he got chewed out for it even though he did his job and the girls just didn’t execute in the ring, and it was Vince that laid into him. This just isn’t a good person and it’s been clear for a long long time. Good riddance to the old weirdo.

[@CA_I]

It's quite common, a lot of this behaviour was taking place in plain sight in some of the storylines which took place over the years.

[@jackstraw4222]

hes a weirdo and most legends mention this ...even dutch mantel said he was odd..

[@j.g.michael3229]

What needs to be addressed is pg. 6. That complaint is alleging the internal investigation was a sham. This is allegation of a cover-up.

[@rpgadventurer32]

"Alleging" a lot, but what is the evidence? So far there's nothing there that shows that she wasn't a willing participant in all of these acts as disgusting as they were. Where is the evidence for the criminal activities that is claimed in her lawsuit?

[@manniefaces]

Did you literally not watch the video​@@rpgadventurer32

[@RandalReid]

@coldsnap5742 I doubt he does and even if he did, I doubt he'll accept that as an expalanation. I'm sure you could see it's a disingenuous argument. He just doesn't want to say out loud what he's really thinking.

[@filmaker256]

@coldsnap5742 That's what the motivation was

[@rpgadventurer32]

@brokennoah Did you just presume my gender? Your comment is hilariously ignorant.

[@gunnarjordan6980]

You cannot tell me that Linda, Stephanie, HHH, Bruce Pritchard, Kevin Dunn and others, did not know this and numerous other cases of abuse were going on!!!

[@rpgadventurer32]

Cases of "abuse"? You are running into conclusions before there was even one evidence presented that proved there was "abuse" here or evidence that proved any of her other serious criminal allegations.

[@switchblade6993]

1) there is evidence out there already 2) get fuuuuuucked

[@strnglhld]

@@rpgadventurer32Conclusions based on decades of observing Vince’s behavior, words, his past and current actions, and victim testimony and records. People are allowed to form judgments based on available information and history. Don’t be mad if they disagree with you.

[@kenshinsan12]

@@strnglhld Decades of observing the words and behavior or a businessman playing a role on TV? His "victim" took money to fuck him and kept going at it for years. Where's this decisive proof you're speaking of?

[@sutterkane5716]

Sure I can tell you they didnt know, because as of now we have no evidence that the specific people you named knew anything. I've worked at the same place for 11 years and I couldnt tell you a single thing about the personal lives of half of them. I doubt McMahon was sharing this information with everyone, so lets wait and see what the evidence says.

[@echobay2023]

I hope unlike Jimmy Saville, he doesnt die before he receives whats coming to him.

[@mr.x9566]

I have an odd feeling that Vince would commit suicide before anything could happened. (I doubt he would though). Vince will never be submissive to anyone or anything.

[@UninvitedGhost]

I wonder if Brock briefly quitting when Vince was forced out had something to do with this…

[@Funkmonkv1]

Probably

[@kevinlee9929]

​@@user-hy5xd2ue5i He got left out the Rumble cause the story broke. And WWE would have been fools to send him out there.

[@watersandblue6001]

seems like it, or atleast would make sense in retrospect.

[@pureimpact4658]

No Brock at Wrestlemania 40 now? What you think?

[@ezstreete]

​@@kevinlee9929But AEW don't mind putting Chris Jericho on TV...

[@AlexBeene]

Thank you, Lisa. The irony here is Vince spent decades supposedly taking pro wrestling out of "the wilderness" and into the realm of entertainment, according to him. And now, through his own actions, he's taken people outside the industry's mindsets on it right back to where they were 40 years ago.

[@Inequities]

I mean at the current time I would say, an even worse light than it was 40 years ago

[@sampleoffers1978]

She's great in this, I hope she runs for Potus somehow and wins just for this video.

[@Antonicane]

So far we've only just been hearing the allegations that one person was subject to and/or knew about. I guarantee there are *decades* of Vince's abominable behaviour that have been suppressed because he had the power and money to make them go away. Like, if you thought what you're hearing now is bad, you're correct, but you're probably not even ready for the oceans of abuse that could come pouring out now that the floodgates are open.

[@filmaker256]

dont you remember pattertson? And he hired him back after that horrible scandal !

[@retrokoh]

In 10 years or so, we will be seeing Vince icebergs that will NEVER be allowed to see monetization on YT

[@rpgadventurer32]

Allegations are not evidence of wrongdoing! This social media trend of being the judge, jury and executioner is horrible and needs to stop.

[@Thegbear]

@@rpgadventurer32 Not if it’s all true. Come oooooon don’t kid yourself, sure he’s slid out of courts like teflon, but he’s part of an elite group of people with more money than God. You know it, I know it, VKM is responsible for death, rape and sex trafficking.

[@anthonymacgregor9790]

@@rpgadventurer32 the NDA's and pay offs make vince look guilty as fuck

[@Duke46283]

Comparing Vince to Saville is incredibly apt. Hiding in plain sight is absolutely spot on

[@alneedham9363]

Vince was actually jumping up and down and waving at us in plain sight.

[@Cuphat]

"Everything is about sex, except for sex. Sex is about power." - Somebody

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

Wilford Brimley.

[@alphaomega5896]

Oscar Wilde

[@andrewsmith3257]

​@@A_KZbin_CommenterOscar Wilde damn 😂

[@Fantasyremix]

"Would you prefer a nature metaphor or a sexual metaphor?" "Oh god, nature please." "When two animals are having sex..."

[@j.dudley8019]

Wait is this the same Vince McMahon who allegedly brought a briefcase to a meeting with Allentown PD in regards to the death of Nancy Argentino? I'm shocked! Absolutely shocked to find that gambling is going on here!

[@stankormy5717]

It’s going to be hell in a cell for Vince!

[@vincesmith2499]

No criminal charges have been filed as of now.

[@gunnarjordan6980]

Let’s hope so! For Linda too in her direct participation in covering up the ring boy scandals. Allegedly.

[@pureimpact4658]

He might be Buried Alive there or face a falls count anywhere situation in lock up 😂

[@Massivemonster1234]

​​​​@@gunnarjordan6980 Allegedly and direct participation are polar opposites. Which is it? If you're unsure, maybe you shouldn't post what you wrote

[@MrJonnyl123]

Rich white people don’t go to prison in America

[@youtubinit]

I'm still curious what happened to Ashley Masaro due to the way Vince/WWE handled it.

[@Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living]

Paul London recently came forward in an interview on Rene Dupree’s podcast, and he said that Vince preyed on her as well. He touched upon how her SA in Saudi Arabia was handled by Vince and John Laurinaitis.

[@PsychoticFruitfly]

@@Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living london was fried out of his skull in that too. hell, his opening line was "...the way the wall st journal went after him... (awkward pause)... maybe vince owns a bunch of firearms...."

[@Clivetinker]

@@PsychoticFruitflywhat time stamp is that? I don’t remember that at all

[@SeanStrife]

@@Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living There was also the story that she got SA'd during one of the Tribute to the Troops shows by a serviceman and Vince encouraged Ashley to stay quiet about it because otherwise it could jeopardize the WWE's deal with the military for these Tribute to the Troops shows.

[@Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living]

@KathrynElizabeth-ts2gk Thanks for the correction. I knew it was at one of the “Tribute to the Troops” show, but I though it was Saudi Arabia.

[@MrUnmutual2014]

Look at the storylines involving Vince is the Attitude era. Its not totally surprising.

[@jackstraw4222]

his storyline promos in late 2000 divorcing linda sounded legitimate...how can he get so angry and rage like that if its just acting....

[@jamiejones8521]

@@jackstraw4222I know, how can you get so angry when acting? When Margot Robbie got upset in the barbie movie it seems so real also

[@JJJSM]

All these disgusting allegations against vince, has made me realized how he has come up with certain past storylines.

[@Humorless_Wokescold]

No wonder Vince didn't show up on any Epstein list. He had his own gig the whole time. Hell's too good for him.

[@rpgadventurer32]

There has yet to be evidence presented by the accuser that proves any criminal activity on his part.

[@dogmd7]

Say what you want about Vince but nothing ever suggests he was into not-adults... Way different matter.

[@ChickenNugNugz2]

Yeah, it seems Vince liked his ladies young but they all seem to be legal adults. I wouldn't be surprised if there was stuff in the 70s and 80s with 16-17 year olds trying to get started but that is pure speculation and there is nothing public which suggests that at this time

[@Clivetinker]

@@rpgadventurer32definitely proof of the workplace harassment, without even getting into the sexual and restraint details

[@SeanStrife]

@@Clivetinker Don't bring evidence into this person's narrative; it might fall apart.

[@realnikb]

Lisa is a breathe of fresh air on the show. Really insightful and a positive voice to listen to.

[@simonturner1]

Yeah I've never heard her before but I like the cut of her jib.

[@trtlcap1501]

Woh woh woh tea and crumpets amiright?

[@Dr_1212]

😎👍

[@TMPS93]

I'm back and forth on her but overall she's mostly good. She was openly biased against WWE programming on the World's End review but she's honest about her bias which caught me off guard.

[@dannyochoa8167]

Dude if Vince had laughs with Lesner about that shit easily he showed HHH and the undertaker

[@Dankbanana1]

Do you think Shane knew?

[@dannyochoa8167]

@@Dankbanana1 yeah probably but whose going to snitch out there Dad lol

[@M.Bisðn]

I think that's why Shane first left years ago to do his own thing, and also to help put some distance between himself and the WWE in case something like this came back to haunt them.

[@kevinlee9929]

THANK YOU

[@watersandblue6001]

​@@M.BisðnShane first left in 2009, makes you wonder if he knew about stuff even back then.

[@Simouno]

Mark my words. Vince ain't gonna sink alone, if he is gonna go down, he will go down swinging and dragging other people with him, maybe even WWE itself. The "inject poison into my own creation" storyline might become a reality soon

[@bullettoothjosh]

By proxy yes. Many have already steppes down when the board got wind of it before the merge. Stephanie, Dunn. Ronda Rousey said it out loud Bruce is Vince's avatar. IMO Ya gotta think HHH is also.

[@Nxtl68]

If Vince thinks he won't survive this, expect a lot of anonymous source stories naming his former "allies"

[@SeanStrife]

@@bullettoothjosh I mean... HHH was part of that sham investigation and may actually be one of the WWE Officials mentioned in the lawsuit. I wouldn't be surprised if, after the way he handled it during the press conference, he's next on the chopping block.

[@LooseCan88]

good point

[@pureimpact4658]

I think he meant that kill my own creation shit! 😂😊

[@KnightFallProd]

Unrelated to rhw actual story, just wanna give props.to Bryan and Vinny for having Lisa on to discuss this topic. Especially in such a raw and honest manner. Thabk you, Lisa for your perspective

[@rpgadventurer32]

Props for bringing a guest that dosen't understand the basic notion of evidence in court? He should have brought a real lawyer, not this guest.

[@TeamKP1]

@@rpgadventurer32 Why would he have a lawyer on?

[@alesitercrimson24]

@@TeamKP1 This woman knows jack crap thats why and is continuing a smear campaign on current day WWE when Vince isnt involved anymore. This is why people are getting pissed off that are WWE fans.

[@TeamKP1]

@@alesitercrimson24 all of your comments are about “AEW marks “ and Vince being framed. You are mental ill or weird

[@sxcJOELisNotsexy]

Is she a wrestling fan, or an activist?

[@fnggaming89]

He came out on a smackdown after the preliminary allegations started way back and got a standing ovation and bow down gesture,Why nobody was disgusted then

[@HRHJ008]

Because he's a legend and always will be a legend. Ps Vince is innocent

[@TeamKP1]

@@HRHJ008 Mental ill

[@bradleysloan37]

​@@HRHJ008do you have concrete where your brain should be?

[@notaskaven964]

@@bradleysloan37 they don't have concrete dense enough for this guys brain

[@dogmd7]

Because it wasn't as clear cut as this one was, all 65 pages and screenshots of texts.

[@MrJamess1982]

Paul’s(Triple H’s) response on Saturday was disappointing. His wife left the company, others around him have left the company under some mysterious circumstances. Well now we can safely assume, they all left due to knowing how bad Vince’s behaviour had been (and potentially others as well) and they did not want to be around when this hit the news.

[@jackstraw4222]

hes spinless, and he lied years ago around early 2010s about business doing well when it wasn't .....ratings stock ,attendance all down and he still wouldn't accept that...

[@c.a.t4607]

His wife was also in a segment where she said she slept with her father's friends.. Triple H has his own skeletons in the closet to worry about because he was with Vince the whole time this was happening

[@jasonbowser5754]

Of course Triple H is gonna say that at a press conference. That’s what he needs to say for the company. He has to look forward. FFS…it’s obvious none of you people understand what you have to do when you are the face of a billion dollar company. As far as Vince goes, F him. But jumping on H is at the least an emotional response and at the worst, dumb as hell.

[@TheHardys01]

​@@jasonbowser5754 You missed the point where Triple H F'd up, and said he hadn't read the lawsuit. That is a big problem.

[@7srchoed]

It wasn’t just disappointing, it was disgusting. They asked him about Vince, and his answer was bragging about how well the company got away with it.

[@stacymirba1433]

wwe fans don't care. They've supported this guy for years.

[@kellyvaters1689]

Wrestling fan here. We certainly fucking do care. Vince is a monster and these alleged activities have placed the entire industry in disrepute. This is one of numerous NDAs Vince signed and then breached. How many stories are out there involving other promoters, officials, wrestlers, trainers? The code of silence has run deep and wide, and needs to be shown the full glare of daylight.

[@JimCornetta]

@KathrynElizabeth-ts2gkor she could have just said no to the job and the rest is history

[@kellyvaters1689]

@KathrynElizabeth-ts2gk I've been a fan of pro wrestling since the age of six. I bear as much a burden for enabling that behaviour as anyone not in the actual business. What about you? What's your skin in this game, troll?

[@sampleoffers1978]

It's not on the fans or customers. Fans calling for accountability want the product reformed, just like with government. Fans that're sycophants, like woody allen fans etc, is different matter. @KathrynElizabeth-ts2gk

[@jack_yo]

If you still watch WWE ,you don't care.

[@christopherchuauhang4829]

Now suddenly Vince and Shawn scandal doesn’t seem that far fetched anymore.

[@W4L3YT]

Stephanie McMahon knew. She left as soon as Vince came back.

[@Mortallica03]

Lost alot of respect for Triple H yesterday after he dodged the Vince questions He said he want to focus on the positives and that he hasnt read the documents despite him being in charge of WWE and also being shareholder and member of the board of directors for years!! oh and also the small detail that hes married to Vince daughter! So he wants to just focus on getting the money from Netflix and the succes of the PPV but screw what happend to all those womens physically and mentally right? who cares about that? lol, dude was more worried on flexing the money he got and taking shots at AEW than be a leader and give a proper answer to some horrible accusations I expect better for someone who has 3 daughters and not that BS answer

[@zerozeeros]

It's called being professional. It wasn't the time

[@vapeymcvape5000]

Triple H has known these details for a long time.

[@manniefaces]

Respect lol

[@monkeydluffy983]

Dude its an ongoing investigation and TKO most likely doesn't want him to talk about it and I don't think he can legally talk about it and him being vince's son in law is a conflict of interest right there. Im not defending vince in any shape way or form but try took look at it from hunter's perspective think first about why he couldn't talk about it. Dude gave a better response than when tony khan was asked about chris jericho.

[@jrench1]

Not a defender of Vince at all. I hope justice will be served to all those involved in that terrible behavior, but what is HHH supposed to say? There's an active lawsuit with tons of allegations and if it were to go to courts, I think it's safe to say he will be called in to answer questions along with others. How would it look answering questions about anything related to the lawsuit to some wrestling blogs / news sites at a press conference for a PLE event? If he would have answered one, the rest of the questions would have all been related to Vince. In my opinion, It would be pretty unprofessional while lawsuit / investigations are active. I think HHH answers were acceptable given the place and time where they were asked.

[@k-man311]

“This is a dude who thinks sneezing is gross.” Nailed it 💯

[@astuteandy]

He doesn't think it's gross, he hates sneezing because he can't control it.

[@TurnaboutAdam]

Lisa is great. Amazing to get a woman’s perspective, too.

[@aimeedavies3197]

I have found it really difficult to read the comments who say she was fine accepting the money until it stopped, and you perfectly explained it. Coercive control

[@ApplejackShaners]

People are so desperate to defend McMahon because he ran a promotion they liked that I am fairly sure he could come out and say, "Yes, I kill babies and drink their blood," and they'd say, "Well...some of those babies had it coming! Free Hat!"

[@TeamKP1]

its wrestling fans i wouldn't expect anything from them.

[@rpgadventurer32]

No, you have to prove there was a "coercive control" involved with real evidence. The alleged acts are disgusting and immoral but the serious allegations against him demand to be proven in court with supporting evidence. This discussion is not a professional one.

[@notaskaven964]

@@rpgadventurer32 you have so many comments going to bat for a sex criminal lmao

[@alesitercrimson24]

Instead of always believing everything a woman says when she cries rape we actually have a court case and see whats real or not?

[@captain-brickhead8317]

It’s very easy to say “if someone shows me naked pictures at work of a colleague I’m going straight to HR… blah blah.” Truth is most people don’t want to risk losing their income or want to get caught up in workplace drama that may affect their chances at getting jobs elsewhere. Not saying it’s right, but it’s reality.

[@rpgadventurer32]

There isn't any evidence presented so far that shows that she wasn't a willing participant from the very start.

[@simonturner1]

Most people are cowards and they should be held accountable for that.

[@N3gativeR3FLUX]

​@@rpgadventurer32 Have you read any of the allegations? Someone saying no multiple times isn't a willing participant.

[@sampleoffers1978]

Employees and bosses can't distribute sex images at all, let alone of a coworker in a publicly traded company. It's not a auto repair shop. Consensually is not driving factor. His halting payment on their nda agreement is. @@rpgadventurer32

[@eiephants]

Especially when the boss has a monopoly over the industry and has friends in high places that can further blacklist outside the wrestling bubble.

[@theonetheonlyjoey]

A rare C bomb in the Bryan and Vinny show, love that British representation haha But on a serious note, what a nasty story. I've no idea how it all ends up, but this is definitely the end of Vince in WWE and it's not before time.

[@daveborder7751]

She swears more than Cornette & would make a sailor at Southampton Docks blush.

[@zerozeeros]

​@@daveborder7751in Australia mate she sounds like an average Sheila at breakfast haha. I was startled at hearing c$$t but I'll take more of it

[@philiphunn194]

Sometimes that word is the only one that fits the bill. Vinny Mac is definitely a see-you-next-Tuesday.

[@0svvan0]

I don't just think Kevin Dunn knew. I think Kevin Dunn was in on it.

[@Thegbear]

Kevin Dunn, Bruce Pritchard, John Laurenitis, and tbh very likely HHH, Shane, Stephanie, and the entire original board prior to TKO

[@pureimpact4658]

Yeah, it was so convenient for him to leave WWE just before this made headlines, right?

[@sampleoffers1978]

Technical department does sound like production

[@matthewthomas9194]

​@@Thegbearrumors are shane not only knew but actually tried to get vince to stop several times and thats why he left the company to get away from vince

[@Thegbear]

@@matthewthomas9194 That doesn’t make sense tbh. I guarantee Shane knew back in the 2000s, not just recently. How could he not? I’m also of the sincere belief that either Vince tried to fuck Stephanie, or straight up did. Remember when he tried to propose that incest angle?

[@JackAsGaeilge]

Get Lisa as a regular! She's great.

[@Joe-zs5ms]

Doesn't Tripps have daughters? I imagine if it were them , he wouldn't have said lets focus on the positives

[@maggaveli6764]

I had that exact thought, shameful

[@maggaveli6764]

I had that exact thought, shameful

[@MIKWOG1]

Exactly! Imagine his daughter goes to college and attends a frat party. Ignore the SA upstairs, pay attention to the partying in the living room. Paul really F-up that answer

[@neilgallagher7923]

With Tripple H his wife’s dad had just been accused of rape, he has to support his wife and kids, as well as produce two shows. I can’t imagine what he’s going through.

[@caltair2896]

Another sad thing about this, is that The Undertaker had to know about it.

[@dogmd7]

No he doesn't. Do you know everything about everyone you've ever known?

[@yungtaipan2693]

Trust me he would of ​@dogmd7

[@yungtaipan2693]

​@dogmd7 your delusional if you disagree

[@flifreddie]

I dont believe taker knew. But what will be sad is if people like taker and steve austin still claim vince is a good guy. Part of me believe they will

[@zeldabombsquad1144]

Bro, shut up. Just because he was Vinces guy does NOT mean he had to know, stop dragging innocent (unless proven guilty) people into this

[@cenanuffz]

I'm glad that Lisa put forward that pro wrestling is awesome on its own, because WWE telling everyone for decades that wrestling could only exist and thrive because of Vince McMahon was all by design for Vince entrench his own power. The culture needs to change so that none of these people can be considered untouchable, irreplaceable, etc. ever again.

[@kylemiller6560]

Maybe billionaires with unchecked power is a bad thing

[@CMD619]

🤔Hmmm… really? You think there’s correlation between great wealth / unlimited power and corruption??? You don’t say… Well you would never be able to convince half of the country of this obvious truth.

[@justinsmith424]

I think this broke Stephanie a year ago. HHH is just trying to save his family birthright. His daughters are probably heart broken

[@sampleoffers1978]

Levesque has to know it's bad and his falling on sword to entertain satiate Vince, otherwise Paul is really not bright.

[@Cartagena1]

I am absoLUTELY OK with “kink shaming.” From a psychological standpoint, there absolutely are certain sexual appetites that are indicative of something that is DEEPLY wrong in a person’s internal wiring and needs to be addressed. I have absolutely ZERO qualms whatsoever hearing someone say “I enjoy 💩on people” and responding with “Whoa…dude, are you OK? You should go talk to someone, that’s very abnormal.” Believe it or not folks, sometimes “shame” is a good thing.

[@Natef321]

Nah

[@sampleoffers1978]

Kink's are fine when legal and consensual. He converted an employee he found in his own condo, to adult services worker, than spread sexual images of her, then her within his publicly traded company. The scatological stuff is further insanity...FINALLY...Finally...he stops completing payment on their nda, which illuminates he likely manipulated wwe's board of directors, after finding out, somehow they were anonymously tipped off, disclosing what he was up to four years ago...and Vince Mcmahon clearly did this to be exposed for his deeds to flaunt them...If that part is the "kink" then it's kink shaming. Otherwise then, no it's not kink shaming, it's a radioactive onion we don't know where it stops, if it does right now.

[@Cartagena1]

@KathrynElizabeth-ts2gk Nice, a very well-thought out, intellectual retort. Boy howdy did you ever put me in my place 👍 I'ma just go ahead and shift my entire way of thinking right now boss 👌

[@christophergargaro959]

Rita Chatterton Ashley Massaro Tanning salon employee in Florida Janel Grant The list goes on and on. How anyone can think that Vince’s hands are clean here and she’s making it up for money, etc. is beyond me. I’m sure I’m missing some too.

[@cb3648]

When those allegations about the money first came out, people were thinking maybe Dawn Marie got a payout too.

[@kimblandino]

Sable should come forward and tell the truth of her marriage and the deal behind it between Brock and Vince.

[@matthewjohnson8217]

if Vince does this imagine what the billionaires and those on Epstein's list did

[@Spill_ent]

When did Vince start looking like a Telemundo soap opera actor 😅

[@jackflash8218]

Ay, caramba!! 😆😂

[@RandyTroyer]

I don't care what the guy did. He made it possible for all these people to make a living doing something in life that is not a necessity.(wrestling)

[@hothotheat3000]

Smart to have a woman’s perspective on this.

[@TheNeonParadox]

"Everybody has heard stories about Vince." Yes Bryan, everyone heard stories about Harvey Weinstein, too.

[@ronniesouthern7829]

The key is WHO told the stories about Vince. That would go a long way towards determining whether they are credible or not.

[@trtlcap1501]

And eeeeevrybody knows. And did nothing to stop it. All of then are guily.

[@rigsby1454]

@@trtlcap1501 There's a difference between hearing things and actually 'knowing'. I'm sure we've all heard the stories but none of us 'knew'. The question is to who actually knew in the company etc. The guy was showing this to the tech crew for instance, no way people higher up actually knew and covered it.

[@strnglhld]

@@rigsby1454People higher up absolutely knew. Those people are even closer to Vince and interact with him all the time.. I wouldn’t be surprised if he never actually told any techs, like he claimed….kinda sounded like a fantasy he was telling to impress her, in his sick mind

[@RGF91]

As well as R. Kelly

[@michaeldovenbarger2424]

I'm thinking the original grand jury stuff had to do with him using company money to pay the NDAs which is a form of embezzlement. There is no way his lawyer forgot to tell him to use his own money. The screwed up thing is none of this would have come to light if a billionaire wasn't being a cheapskate and trying to avoid spending his own money.

[@JenMistress]

You talk about this being like a horror story, this makes I Spit On Your Grave look like a Disney Family Movie. That's how bad I see this being. And we know about Rita Chatterton, we know about the woman at the tanning salon, and now this, and wouldn't surprise me if there are many others out there. Really, Vince McMahon is so much to wrestling as Harvey Weinstein was to the movie business when it comes to stuff like this.

[@megamanxhunter]

Weinstein wasn't a lone case in the entertainment. You had Brett Ratner, Les Moonves.

[@SeanStrife]

There WAS that hush money payout that came out last year to 4 different women. Janel could very well be one of those women, which would mean there's a bare minimum of 3 other women out there who might be scarred even worse than Janel and that's why they haven't come out with their stories yet.

[@pureimpact4658]

Bingo!!😊

[@cb3648]

@@megamanxhunter Plus wrestling has had plenty of carnies and scumbags like Grizzly Smith, Hardbody Harris, Matt Bourne, etc that had rape/pedophilia issues.

[@yoholmes273]

No it doesn't. Over dramatic much ? Cosby was worse.

[@thieve4782]

Im not sure why anyone thinks people will come out and say "yeah I knew vince was doing this to woman". If they did they may face charges so unless there is a investigation with subpoenas/ court orders this will all be over soon.

[@teagan9184]

If hhh didn't know about this like he said at the media scrum, THEN WHY DID HE PULL BROCK LESNER from the rumble??? Hhh lied period.

[@angelosab2012]

Do you honestly believe he's going to admit that he knew?

[@mistere9099]

He just said he hasn’t read the lawsuit. He probably saw the texts and allegations on social media though. He’s slick like that.

[@SamWhite-ru6oq]

HHH probably had someone else read it to him. So he could say he didn't read it. Shifty as hell. @@mistere9099

[@kevinlee9929]

​@@mistere9099He didn't need to see anything. He probably already knew most of, if not all of it.

[@aaronchasco613]

Wasn't hhh busy down in Florida running a entire nxt roster and tv every week when this happened? Yeaaaa

[@jesterr7133]

Some of his reactions were funny (though unintentional), but Vinny's reactions summed up how any decent human being should feel about the situation. I do think we should not lynch Vince before the trial, but if any of this is true, then fuck that guy.

[@thegreenpianist7683]

Remember, he paid 17M$ in hush money, Grant received a total of 1M$.

[@djonenonly8381]

You mean ACCEPTED

[@SeanStrife]

@@djonenonly8381 ...received.

[@thegreenpianist7683]

@@djonenonly8381 no shit Sherlock.

[@TheHardys01]

​@@djonenonly8381 What did she accept 1M$ for??

[@HijoDelHongo]

@@djonenonly8381 do you drink your own piss, or someone else's?

[@nathangibbs7149]

I'm reminded of a story about Ashley Massaro. They were all coming back from an overseas tour and there was something to the effect of her bit wanting to fly back with the "executive plane".

[@oneaboveall1922]

I am not aware of this, do you think she was being sexually abuse at the wwe?

[@sawtooth808]

@@oneaboveall1922 I believe that she was, and Paul London (a former WWE wrestler who who does a podcast with Rene Dupree ) who was last with Ashley Massaro…to say he is livid about everything going on with Vince McMahon now is an understatement.

[@billyburleson6238]

Wwe and vince covered it up ...

[@GillBoldberg]

If this goes to trial we’re going to hear a lot of names of executives and wrestlers. You know he shared these women with many of the boys and who knows how many divas he abused.

[@jackstraw4222]

i just hope these other wrestlers are exposed for who they are...i cant even guess any at the current roster..since none of them seem the type to be sex addicts ..its not like chad gable or r truth would do this type of thing...

[@CA_I]

How do we know this will go to trial? It could well be settled.

[@burninghammer83]

Clean House, be a good company not an evil one. Pretty simple math. I actually watched the Rumble, 1st show since 2018? Didn’t like most of it. That said I went in with an open mind. Now it’s time to finish cleaning house. Make this right. Or I have a suspicion there could be another exodus of fans.

[@Mr.Majestic77]

The take away from these three is how Jim Cornette and his sidekick co-host Brian Last should have reacted, instead of them joking about sex trafficking, rape, humiliation and blaming the victim.They lost a lot of respect. As far as the WWE as a company, Triple H and Endeavor TKO go, they knew all knew about this which makes them just as guilty. This is yet another permanent stain of WWE that has Penn State College Football (World Wrestling Entertainment), Penn State head coach Joe Paterno (Triple H), Jerry Sandysky (Vince McMahon & John Laurinitus) sex scandal vibes written all over it. While Endeavor TKO can remove Vince McMahon from his current position at Endeavor, Endeavor TKO can't remove Vince McMahon's history with the WWF/WWE. Too many current performers, Hall of Famers, additional legends and current WWE and Endeavor TKO executives attached to the WWF/WWE who knew about this recent sexual incident and other "sexual incidents" over a 40 year period within the promotion. Vince McMahon and the WWE will be forever tied together. The WWE is one big orgy fest. Welcome to the party Endeavor TKO and Anthem Sports and Entertainment. Vince McMahon is signal handedly saving Tony Khan's All Elite Wrestling & Ring of Honor, William Patrick Corgan's National Wrestling Alliance and Court Bauer's Major League Wrestling. Please research the history of WWF/E "sexual incidents": [1]. The 1970s-1980s WWF *Cream Team* ; [2.] Former 1980s-1990s WWF female referee Rita Chatterton; [3]. former 1990s WWF Color Commenter Murray Hodgeskins; [4]. Former WWF Pro Wrestler, "Cowboy" Bob Orton's son and Randy Orton's uncle Barry Orton. Also, please research the available footages on KZbin: •Geraldo 4/13/1992 - "Sex Scandals of the Season" (with Rita Chatterton, Murray Hodgson, & others; •Geraldo & Craig Rivera Exposing The WWF; •Donahue on WWF Drug & Sex Scandals; •Pat Patterson and the WWF Ringboy Scandal.

[@Clivetinker]

Yeah Jim and Brian just laughing through the readings wasn’t great.

[@SeanStrife]

The way they acted just tells you how likely commonplace this shit was backstage back in their day.

[@Mr.Majestic77]

​@@SeanStrifeI definitely agree. I am almost positive if this woman was underage, Jim and Brian would still find a way to blame the victim, while jocking of the subject matter. I no longer have any interest to support anything from Endeavor TKO. If Brock Lesnar was aware of this incident and would bet the farm, Triple H and Stephenie McMahon also knew about this and possible other incidents.

[@keefriff99]

I enjoy listening to Jim, but I knew he wouldn't take this seriously. He just doesn't get it. It was predictable but still disappointing. I don't listen to him much anymore because of his attitude on this kind of stuff.

[@stevemccullagh36]

Your research list should absolutely be read by people, but should also contain the caveat that Murray Hodgson was a proven pathological liar and extortionist.

[@jagfanbb]

Partiality agree with bryan Mail room clerk can stay but everyone in upper management needs to go Full clear

[@robertfrazier6563]

It would surprising if Law & Order ( SVU ) do a spoof on this ( except the owner of a wrestling company is in his early 50s & the victim is in her mid 20s )

[@originalrkmorton]

I can imagine it. The accused tries to play it off as their TV persona while being the same hostile shit Vince was in his interviews. Detectives will uncover their Me Too reveal in how seedy the industry is. And just like what could happen in real life, the accused will walk with no criminal penalties because of the political allies he has. They could take down the company's biggest babyface though, when they find an actionable offense on him as their big "twist". An angel falls while the devil remains.

[@robertfrazier6563]

@@originalrkmorton The lawyer will defend the owner of the wrestling organization is Barba

[@BSultimate]

The stench of Vince is going to be hard to wash off of Paul now. It was amateurish in that presser

[@Fantasyremix]

What exactly do you want him to have said about an ongoing legal situation involving his father-in-law? Be realistic

[@BSultimate]

@@Fantasyremix not saying ‘give me an easy question’. It’s not hard. Even better….was the presser going to get more assess in seats? Probably not

[@Fantasyremix]

@@BSultimate I don’t think the pressers should exist. Yes it’s sportier but it breaks kayfabe too much and undermines storytelling. When Edge debuted in AEW and then immediately did a presser-why? Make us tune in to Dynamite to hear from him.

[@BSultimate]

@@Fantasyremix totally agree

[@trevorthetherapist4200]

Those text messages with people who are your employees will be the downfall of all of these dudes.

[@IronDiva]

Wondering when the rats will start fleeing the ship.

[@davidowen6625]

WWE had to know most of what came out a year or two ago. They buried it and hoped it would go away with the NDA. More people at WWE should be looked into

[@ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732]

Brock is toast. TKO will want nothing to do with him. TKO will want to distance themselves from anything to do with anyone mentioned in the lawsuit. Let alone Slim Jim, they don't want Netflix giving them a call.

[@SeanStrife]

And word is, Endeavor is looking to clean house in that regard, so a lot of these people are likely gonna be on the chopping block... and given the way he handled it on Saturday and the fact the non-wrestling media are having a go at him, Triple H could be next.

[@jackstraw4222]

hhh needs replaced..he makes the raw shows like nxt...and hes a casual racist...

[@zerozeeros]

​@@jackstraw4222what horseshit. Go away

[@sampleoffers1978]

There's enough toast to start new company. "Toast Delaware rassl'n. "

[@MrJonnyl123]

Na. Brock will be back

[@jasonvoorhees-wr7iq]

Jesus Christ Bryan. What horror movies you watch. A Serbian Film is the only movie that matches what this story details. 99.99999 horror movies are nowhere near this

[@ArthurDent33]

How about manslaughter charges for Ashley Massaro

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

Snuka is dead.

[@thegreatfulgamer5749]

Vince screwed Vince

[@lectrifyin1]

Just imagine what the stooges Briscoe and Patterson witnessed in the Attitude Era...

[@meekrob]

Bill Cosby's conviction was overturned, and not on a technicality, either. Just saying.

[@Repomidnight]

Be shocked if further stories aren’t told. Victims know they’ll be believed now. Doubtful somebody starts this behaviour in their mid 70’s.

[@SourForward]

One thing I think people need to do is pump the brakes on assuming someone like Triple H maybe knew about this while it was happening. Sure Vince is sharing these texts and pics with the tech crew, which with all due respect has to be considered the bottom of the bottom in terms of company hierarchy. But don't you think Triple H is one of the few guys that could possibly hold Vince accountable or maybe tell him to knock it off and maybe get him to straighten his act up? Perhaps that's actually a long shot. If I put myself in Vince McMahon's sick and twisted head, I don't want my son-in-law and someone who I probably respect greatly to know about all these things I'm doing in my free time.

[@christophermarriott1681]

Stop it. Vince McMahon had his daughter married off and gave Triple H a bunch of titles including a spot in the company if it meant Triple H keeping his mouth shut.

[@kevinlee9929]

​@@christophermarriott1681 People are kidding themselves thinking that HHH had no idea. Stephanie leaves the company. Followed by Kevin Dunn. They didn't leave for no reason. If ring techs knew. You can bet that HHH did too. He's been in that inner circle since 1997.

[@drew3493]

He either knew or he didn't investigate actually. Either way he's totally in the wrong. Knock it off.

[@King0fAllPixels]

I think the reason you have to get rid of all management including trips and Bruce is even though they may not know the extent, they are still people who perpetuate the culture

[@sampleoffers1978]

Right. It's a cult.

[@brycemcneil4404]

6:18 / 10:31 There's a great read online about this phenomenon but requires context to understand titled "Do You Know About Jian?" Almost ten years ago, a very famous Canadian radio broadcaster (Jian Ghomeshi) was finally taken from his perch when a dam full of sexual assault allegations against him burst into view. But what we quickly learned is that *plenty* of people had "heard stories" about Jian...but no one who were or felt they were in a position to do anything about it. The best they could do is "spread the word" on an interpersonal level so friends steer clear of the guy. I highly recommend seeking it out for answering the question of "why didn't anyone stop __________?" (fill in the blank...VKM, Jimmy Savile, Jian Ghomeshi, etc.)

[@rpl1318]

you could also point at the more well known case of Harvey Weinstein. people in Hollywood knew to the degree that it was an "inside" joke. but until MeToo he was considered too powerful to bring allegations against.

[@PsychoticFruitfly]

vince has always had a power/control kink, never thought it was THIS BAD. "when someone tells you who they are, believe them" -- somebody

[@secondbest2877]

This is Harvey Weinstein the wrestling edition.

[@SeanStrife]

I remember a few years ago... I attempted to make a shitpost on an imageboard referring to the WWE as a cult, and decided to apply Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE model to the WWE and... it quickly became not a shitpost because HOLY FUCK do a lot of the BITE model criteria apply to how Vince McMahon ran the WWE. Hell, in light of the recent allegations, there may have been some criteria I said "Maybe this doesn't apply to WWE" that I have to turn around and say "Yeah, this fits." Vince didn't run the WWE like a business, he ran it like a cult.

[@pureimpact4658]

Because the entertainment industry is!😊

[@sampleoffers1978]

It's a cult.

[@demetriuscordova7680]

Insightful post; I very much agree. In the past, I've often put that WWE logo on par with Latter-Day Saints, Jehovah's Witness, or Scientology branding. Now I sort of want to alter that view, as WWE seems considerably more fiendish than LDS or JWs.

[@LiberatingReality]

"50 Shades of Brown" - Vince's soon to be released best selling memoir.

[@ameli.t9808]

Wonder what Vince could've done to Sable.

[@MJ123-i8r]

Love her take on all of this and how most people don’t understand coercion in a legal manner. Amazing to me how many people are blaming the victim and supporting Vince because he did it on TV.

[@PantheonLincoln]

5:19 I hate the word, but never has dropping the C-bomb felt so right as it does when Lisa does so here.

[@vilongo]

Hey assholes, innocent until proven guilty. Ever heard of that? Seems like everybody is jumping to conclusion before the man is even being charged. We don’t know the extent of this allegation or what true or what’s not. Also, all this talk about “consent”. Well, did you know how many lawsuits have been dismissed because the judge found that these cases are usually like this: Consent; ask for settlement to not talk; withdrawals consent; sues. Basically withdrawing consent is the most common denominator in all these cases. So let’s back off until all is said and done with these accusations and theories.

[@keni95851]

"usually" im sure that's not anecdotal and you have numbers to back that up

[@vilongo]

@@keni95851 look up Enzo’s alleged sexual assault.

[@rigsby1454]

Christy Hemme might want to start taking law advice on her NDA

[@daveborder7751]

Stephanie McMahon interview in 2011-Her Favorite Quote: This isn't necessarily my favorite quote, it's just the one that is coming to mind, "Learn to eat shit and like the taste" a life lesson by my dad, Vince McMahon.

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

Literally?

[@jackstraw4222]

yea pathetic really...she also claimed other elite viewpoints over the years but they rarely got mentioned more than once...

[@daveborder7751]

@@A_KZbin_Commenter It seems so.

[@MrJonnyl123]

He used to say that to Jim cornette as well he says it on his podcast all the time

[@j.g.michael3229]

The only response to "she took gifts is" simply "pg. 37".

[@stephenmaxam]

Who would of thought a toxic drug infested business had shady people at the helm.

[@sampleoffers1978]

hollywood is not full of saints, nor government, but there has to be accountability in modern era

[@XKenny77]

When it comes to not paying up on his agreement, it's not like this is new for Vince. Ask Stu Hart or Mike LeBell if Vince is reliable at paying up on agreed deals once he's got what he wants.

[@wandulyncollins5266]

Anyone who's watched WWE since the Attitude Era has a fairly good idea of what Vince Mcmahon is about. We didn't have specific details, but everything we've heard this week pretty much tracks with the way he's portrayed himself. Infidelity? Obsession with young women? Using power to bend the will of subordinates? Flouting wealth to avoid consequences? Obsession with bodily functions? He's been telling us who he is all along.

[@BorkBrand]

Lisa speaks for many of us.

[@windup13ird60]

Ask more questions of HHH and others. It is very likely that there's a lot more about WWE particular and with something so ingrained in the company's culture it is difficult for me to believe that only Vince and John are culpable (even though of course they are very culpable and total scum and I'm not debating that). I'm just worried Paul's lying ass gets away with it.

[@SeanStrife]

Given how the non-wrestling media is handling it... probably not. Some outlets are holding him to task by saying WWE had "an amazing week" in wake of the Vince allegations.

[@AlwaysHalloween000]

There is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL his wife Linda didn't know about some of this stuff. Even his kids

[@BluSpykz]

"It's encouraged, be creative, invent new words."

[@brokenkayfabe]

the worst is people hwo make excueses for him...theres a reason he constantly finds himslef in these situations.

[@sampleoffers1978]

And Vince hates them for enabling him more than anyone else, otherwise he pays off the nda agreement instead of dragging his enablers to hell.

[@robbieolsen1871]

If I was Netflix, I’d only be putting on the last year of WWE when Vince is out of the company. This makes all those Diva segments, especially the Trish one, in even worse taste

[@ImmortalRimas]

I don’t think the company will go down too many years but I can imagine the worst case scenario everyone working the closest with Vince McMahon in the company during his prime years that’s still there now will probably be given a very generous severance package

[@Nxtl68]

I don't believe for a second that Paul didn't know what was going on. And if he is not willing to deal with it like a leader should he should be fired.

[@Funkmonkv1]

Do you even know how the law works? I doubt anyone is allowed to say anything.

[@Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living]

Do I think that Triple H knew that Vince had girlfriends while married to Linda? YES. Do I think Triple H knew how depraved the relationship was between Vince and these women? NO. Triple H is in a crappy position. Not only is he the mouthpiece for a business that’s under fire, but the man being accused of this is his daughters’ grandfather and his wife’s dad.

[@kevinlee9929]

HHH definitely knew about alot of this. If people think that technicians and guys like Brock and Johnny knew about alot of this. But HHH didn't. They are kidding themselves.

[@daveborder7751]

I doubt he knew Vince was defecating on women's heads. I mean Linda accepted Vince cheating on her with hundreds if not thousands of women for decades. Also how would HHH deal with him? Vince is the boss/leader-HHH is his employee-he is answerable to nobody other than the major shareholders to some degree & prior to going public was answerable to nobody at all. He came back after the allegations because he held all the cards for the merger.

[@ChurchOfTUPAC]

Whoever that woman u had on this show? She's awesome. She is so proper English (like myself), which was verified perfectly when she called Vince a C*NT. Really love the points she made.

[@rpgadventurer32]

She's not awesome, she's ill informed. The one who should be interviewed here is a legitimate lawyer who can actually discuss this case with proper objectivity and legal knowledge.

[@americana-theamericanway7481]

I always thought "the leaker" was a board member who wanted Vince gone, and the WSJ article another woman.

[@rudoludo]

She's a bit.....much

[@jamesroche8785]

Lisa is fucking awesome. Will be looking to seek out more from her.

[@penelopegarcia1650]

I watched this because I thought you might offer an honest opinion, kinda disappointed you seem to really believe NO ONE KNEW. Now that this is out it makes you realize certain things about the WWE and Vince. I have read that he paid women off, to keep them quiet, using WWE funds somewhere between $12,000,000-$50,000,000 from 2006-present. Now it's easy to say no one knew, but in reality if the WWE and its board, or the accountants didn't know where $50,000,000 disappeared to? At the very LEAST the company knew Vince had multiple relationships with young women within the company and abused his power to "date" women, and paid them to stay silent involving and tarnishing the reputation of his own company.

[@daveborder7751]

Most wouldn't-Vince has a small inner circle & always has, guys like HHH, Patterson, Dunn, Ace, Prichard etc. No doubt there would be a lot of innuendo & rumours/gossip from the rank & file staff, like you get in any office-but most of them have likely never even met Vince, or had anything more than a brief hello how's it going comment from him. HR hires them & fires them.

[@johans3164]

Vince is the real life Homelander