FAA investigating near-collision of 2 passenger planes l GMA

[@simplechronology2605]

Rough day for Alaska Airlines...

[@EricaGamet]

Wow! Alaska Airlines isn't having a very good day!

[@AlexFlies]

Wrong information smh. ATC cleared Alaska Airlines to turn to the heading to which they did, the pilot did not "veer to the right in its path"

[@kc72186]

Yep, seems odd he would turn right crossing the other runway.

[@UnknownUnknown-g6w]

the pilots of Alaska ❌🤳 Wow that a hidden secrets I guess all Police department CIA federal state and local . ... wow ) Very political system

[@erauprcwa]

ATC told Skywest to turn but Alaska read back the call and turned into the Skywest flight.

[@ThePwig]

Go arounds aren’t that rare. Parallel runway operations are the main possible problem. Aircraft are to maintain precise headings. Maybe one of them drifted a bit? Also having the big gust of wind probably made it worse.

[@maxdorotik9395]

Wind, unless severe wind shear and severe turbulence will not cause control issues. Parallel runways wasn’t a problem either, it’s normal operations. Both aircraft were on runway heading (280) Alaska followed ATC instructions to turn 340 that was intended for SkyWest. The controller was likely coordinating with departure and didn’t catch it right away.

[@flashdoodle7135]

Exactly Go arounds are so Common

[@flashdoodle7135]

I Love how she leads the audience to think that go arounds are extremely risky, but in reality it’s the safest thing that you could habe done. It is no difference than taking off. Not sure why the media wants us to think preforming a go around is dangerous

[@celebrityrog]

2 Alaska Airlines events in ONE DAY. An attempted hijacking and a near miss. What’s going on with them? Ground the airline.

[@maxdorotik9395]

In simple terms, Alaska followed and read back ATC instructions that were intended for the departing SkyWest. Instead of SkyWest turning 340 and further away, Alaska turned 340 and got closer to SkyWest. The controller (likely coordinating with departure control) missed hearing that and caught it later. Ultimately it is the controllers fault since the Alaska crew read it back, even though the instructions were not for them, the legal responsibility goes to the controller after the readback.

[@ljthirtyfiver]

Is it’ the controller fault or should Alaska have not read back instructions that were clearly not for them ? And making a northbound turn from a south operating runway ? Idk jus seems like more their than the controller

[@griam7641]

@@ljthirtyfiverRetired controller here. Unfortunately if the controller misses the incorrect read back, it makes him responsible.

[@flashdoodle7135]

@@ljthirtyfiverThe Alaska flight was trying to stay in the traffic pattern. That’s why they turned North.

[@davidguzman5112]

Just a few miles away was an off duty pilot trying to breach the cockpit on a flight heading for San Francisco

[@JayJayAviation]

1:36 This is a very misleading statement. Go arounds happen hundreds of times, everyday, everywhere in the world. They are not uncommon. I myself have been involved in 2. They are routine and not risky when done correctly, in fact exactly the opposite. They are performed when the pilots determine an approach unsafe. You make it sound as if the go around itself is what was risky about this incident, not the loss of separation. The go around was not the problem.

[@kitkatkels86]

How tf does this happen with such vast skies?! WTF IS GOING ON

[@AJXOXO-vz1pn]

Is this the same Alaska Airlines where an off duty pilot tried to shut down the engines mid-air to crash the flight?

[@celebrityrog]

No. That flight was Seattle Paine to San Francisco.

[@AJXOXO-vz1pn]

@@celebrityrog there were two Alaska flights that almost crashed in one day? How is that not related?

[@slee7394]

what's wrong with Alaska these days

[@iwitnessedit6713]

PDX has two different tower frequencies, one for each runway, so neither set of pilots knew what the others were doing. Thank god for TCAS

[@L.Spencer]

They may rarely go around, but it's not uncommon for planes to go around. If that makes sense.

[@Kamanda010]

The second time Alaska has been on the news this month and past two weeks

[@LebronCCP]

It’s only a matter of time. 1 in a 1000 incidents over and over.

[@SP-qo1so]

As an individual in the industry..... im sick and tired of the media's overuse of the term "close call"... In the world of aviation safety and risk analysis, definitions and precision matter. Close call is not a utilized nor a defined term in aviation. So how can we measure close calls? "at least 10 close calls since the beginning of 2023", and "increase amounts of close calls." This is purely conjecture and not based in any reality. I will say this.. in general, by all metrics I personally work with and see on a daily basis in my job, we are becoming safer and these trends are going down... yet coverage of significant events is going up. It's the exact same thing as coverage of violent crime since the 1980s. Violent crime today is just a fraction of what it was decades ago, yet media coverage of violent crime in that same period has gone up by hundreds of percentage points. Ask most people, and their perception is that we live in the most dangerous time in the history of recorded statistics. That is objectively and verifiably false. Same story here with aviation. Thank you for always screwing everything up, legacy media.

[@iikhalaii8784]

what is going on with alaska airlines?

[@lindawilkinson6912]

Does anyone else find it curious that there were two Alaska Airlines flights incidents within hours ?

[@maxdorotik9395]

No, because they were almost a week apart.

[@grandmaster137]

Air traffic controllers are overworked and underpaid, and work overtime all the time. It's common for those guys to work 48 hours or 72 hours straight without sleep.

[@glorntop]

ironic how both events (the guy trying to turn of engines mid flight) were going to or heading out of portland and their both alaska airlines

[@DebraSmith-w1c]

Another Alaska flight ?? Whats going on???

[@alexandersheppard1997]

I'm going to stop flying for a while. At this point, an accident seems inevitable!

[@maxdorotik9395]

You realize it’s been 10+ years since a major carrier accident? Keep driving your car!

[@marilynjackson5752]

In Alaska, they do a flyover often.

[@armandotorres-iy1cw]

Here's an idea....build more airports

[@Raven-006]

No Reporting on the Alaska Flight out of Everett,Wa. that Deviated to Portland, Or. due to a Pilot in a Jump seat trying to Turn off the Fuel Switches to the Engines.

[@bigvaxmeanie925]

They literally posted the video 2 hours ago. Stop lying bot

[@Raven-006]

@@bigvaxmeanie925 Who are you calling a Bot Retard

[@Cwgrlup]

Definitely never flying Alaska

[@erauprcwa]

You probably never planned to in the first place

[@ClawMachineWins]

Damn bro Alaska Airlines be in the news for severe things man, tells me never to fly Alaska😂 First someone tried to shut down the engines then now an almost near air collision, I’m good Alaska Airlines🤣

[@JayJayAviation]

This is purely coincidence. These types of things could happen to any airline

[@louiswendt4371]

Damn the FFA's busy ATM

[@hopespringseternal2624]

I remember an Alaska Airlines crashing into the Pacific Ocean due to faulty maintenance killing all on board, a few decades back. I would never fly Alaska Air!

[@JayJayAviation]

Do you think nothing changed?

[@hopespringseternal2624]

@@JayJayAviation Nothing has changed. What just happened with them proves it.

[@JayJayAviation]

@@hopespringseternal2624 you think the two events are connected? You’re kidding right?

[@erauprcwa]

@@hopespringseternal2624 This just shows you know nothing about aviation

[@hopespringseternal2624]

@@erauprcwa You poor, poor thing. I feel so very sorry for you

[@reecom9884]

It looks like the airport was using parallel runways, one for landing and another for takeoff. The controller assumed that the Alaska plane would be on the ground before the SkyWest plane took off. The Alaska plane doing a “Go-Around” had to fly the go-around heading, which was close to the other runway heading so the controller told the Alaska plane to deviate from the go-around pattern. The time separation for takeoff and landing on near parallel runways seems to have not taking into account a go-around case.

[@maxdorotik9395]

PDX operates takeoff and landings on both parallel runways when active. Both planes were assigned to fly runway heading, no spacing issues. The issue is the Alaska crew read back and followed ATC instructions that were instructed to the departing SkyWest (right turn 340). If Alaska maintained runway heading and SkyWest made the turn, all would be normal. There is no timed spacing for simultaneous runway departures/arrivals usually. Ultimately it is the controllers fault for not correcting Alaska and thier readback of the wrong radio call.

[@reecom9884]

@@maxdorotik9395 So the Alaska plane didn’t do a landing briefing on what to do on a go-around based on the published plates? The chart plates show the go-around heading and pattern. I would place the blame more on the Alaska plane for not adhering to the published go-around pattern and heading then the ATC. No wonder Alaska line is investigating the Alaska pilots.

[@maxdorotik9395]

⁠@@reecom9884No. I’m sure they did a landing briefing which includes go around procedures. Upon initiating a go around, ATC assigned Alaska runway heading and 3,000ft. At that point the go around procedure is not as published but instead ATC Vectors. Alaska will follow vectors for another approach so it is up to ATC to tell them where to go. Unfortunately the Alaska crew thought they were receiving instructions to turn right heading 340, but that was for Skywest not Alaska. Bad on Alaska for not listening to the callsign, but worse on the controller who now has the responsibility to correct Alaska’s error.

[@reecom9884]

@@maxdorotik9395 Once the tower controller confirmed the heading and altitude for the go-around pattern to the Alaska plane, which is listed the same as the published landing plate data the only other communication from the tower controller would be the frequency to switch over to departure control for vectoring back into the landing pattern, which is outside his tower control area. Tower controller only gives heading and altitude before turning you over to departure control to leave his tower control area. The tower controller already had given the Alaska plane the heading and altitude to leave his tower control area. The Alaska plane was totally confused. The tower controller wasn’t expecting any further communication from the Alaska plane. The tower controller must have been confused by a transmission that was sent to him by the Alaska plane when he had left his tower control area.

[@erauprcwa]

Everything you said was 100% wrong.

[@MikeTyson-ig4vf]

Million dollars says diversity hiring practices ahs everything to do with this!

[@donnamcdonald6310]

I not bye the collision sh*t story like it heavy traffic in the air or sky.

[@annai157]

Two near misses by Alaska Airlines in ONE day! Sounds highly suspicious, given current world events.

[@maxdorotik9395]

This happened October 16th. Completely separate events

[@bigvaxmeanie925]

​@@maxdorotik9395gotta make it a conspiracy

[@JayJayAviation]

This happened last week. Just because it’s reported today doesn’t mean it was today

[@annai157]

@@JayJayAviation Thanks for the clarification. That is still 2 since the incidents in the Holy Land, but not two in a day as the posting times had made me think. Appreciate your help.

[@BaNDA-0]

First viewer

[@UnknownUnknown-g6w]

❌🤳💥👽

[@BaNDA-0]

ईश्वर का शुक्रिया कहे अनहोनी नहीं हुई वरना क्या से क्या हो जाता पता भी नहीं चलता

[@johnfruge4975]

Alaska crew just following ATC instructions.

[@RobertJohnson-hp4gz]

Look at those runways, this is ultimately the pilots fault. The one in control flew into another runways path risking 250-300+ lives and making Alaska Airlines, a great company I might add, look bad.

[@SeanPat1001]

Pilots have a very restricted view and rely on air traffic control to prevent collisions. The pilot cannot see anything that is above and behind the aircraft. Somebody dropped the ball, but it wasn’t the pilot because the pilot had clearance.

[@aconsideredopinion7529]

They have one job… keep the passengers safe… with all the safeguards and safety procedures and training how hard can that be! This is criminal negligence.

[@fluxfaze]

Are air traffic controllers screened regularly for COVID Brain and MAGA Mania and other such debilitating ailments?

[@jangas2345]

Are you hitting your own head with a hammer again?

[@CountryWV]

Get rid of DIE! How about hiring ATC who are qualified not by race, sex, or sexual orientation