We May Have Fixed The Problem With The Ratback!

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After 2 days of work that lead to disappointing results, we're finally onto something with the ratback bed. Check it out!
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[@dieseldave564]

PUT A SAFETY PROP ROD ON THAT BED!! You need one so when the day comes that you have to work under there you don't get squished by the bed if the hydraulics happen to fail.

[@jetersimpkins2304]

Came here to say the same thing, had a farmer local to us die lately from his grain bed dropping on him.

[@whatsoutthere6822]

And probably a safety hook to prevent the bed from lifting if the hydraulics fail.

[@michaelkahut]

Absolutely!

[@joeeyman7503]

Safety meeting! 😅😂🤣

[@RIGeek.]

@@whatsoutthere6822 The guide plates he put in, could easily have a pin added.

[@67chevy4x4]

I drove a dump truck for a long time. Don't forget a safety prop rod, and we ran something like 1/4" teflon strips between the bed and frame to keep things from squeaking

[@mannygarcia4588]

My thought also, metal to metal will be so noisy and vibrate. Teflon will last longer than the metal. Good tip Chevy

[@Blippa-v4x]

Paul: What you call "failed" is what I call good content. Right or wrong, change of plans, good or bad, it's all content that holds interest to watch.

[@martinblevins9442]

When your designing something from scratch the first concept is far from the ultimate product

[@MarkpaulLewis-og5pq]

I'm going to say something once thank you for staying the same person you are as when you started the channel ..have a good afternoon sir

[@KenWilcox-b5c]

Hello Fab Rats. Just one small thing needed for strength on the new frame. You deffo need some 90 degree angle plates on your cross member joints. If you don’t do this you will get to much latitudinal twist and you could even roll your truck over when loading/unloading, even on a flat level surface. This can even be caused by the wind when your load is being put on or off. Hope you don’t mind, I’m only trying to help. Keep up the good work and never give up

[@KenWilcox-b5c]

😊

[@shannonhaley9126]

Gussets

[@bennievorster7693]

Paul did mention that they still have to put some in.

[@gordonmurray3153]

So you don't agree that welding a 14ft bed onto that frame is going to brace it sufficiently? Over and above the numerous crossbraces and hydraulic fittings that it already has. Each of those cross braces is 4inches across at either end. For my tuppence worth I reckon that rig is going to be plenty strong enough. I would however look at coming up with a method to ramp from the end of the deck down to the ground. I'm left wondering what the material benefit to a vehicle recovery it is, to have the deck able to tilt - when the end cannot reach the ground, to roll vehicles up it? Maybe Paul should've watched RAD, to see how Rudy created his rollback system from scratch.

[@s.cottrill]

Its not for recoveries. He said before it will​ jjst be for hauling the FJ@@gordonmurray3153

[@haroldshobbies]

You could still turn it into a rollback. Put rollers inside a C channel on the outside of the frame you just built.

[@nocrackhere]

All that welding and hydraulic fluid and battery electricity and NO FIRE!! Not a typical FABRATS video!! Love your show!

[@catman19]

PAUL!! You have the hoist mounted backwards, range of motion should have top arm pushing to the rear. Just like last vid when you had the rams backwards.

[@kylewineland5637]

Paul, you mounted the hydraulic scissor pivot in backward. I've installed these scissor style lift on a few dump trucks, and it lifts up with the center pivot point to the back of the truck.

[@dougalexander7204]

I like it most when Paul smiles and says, “gaining on it”. He knows he figured it out, it’s going to happen and he likes it. I also like it when Sean says, “perfect”, cause he knows stuff. Respect to all.

[@garyvincent9663]

Paul when you have the bed up for service you need a Safety "leg" that folds out to support the bed in the up right position, so the hydraulics don't bleed down with you between the frame and the bed rails.

[@H4rleyBoy]

For a Fab Brick Hater you messed up on this one Paul, form over function will never work out if a lower overall height is your aim, you started down that road when you picked that chassis, then you compounded it with those huge fuel tanks, you should have stepped the chassis and had tandem axles you'd be at least a foot lower, have rectangular tanks as cab foot boards, build that if you can.

[@kodasgotgame]

That was absolutely a Larry, Curly, and Moe moment when you 3 bumped heads. 🤣

[@martinblevins9442]

Definitely a greater mechanical advantage if you'd turn the scissor lift 180° ! Also you might need to install physical stops in your cylinder to prevent overtravel on retract. If cylinder isn't fully bottomed it will eventually bend or break your frame

[@seanknight9898]

Ahhhhh! I wish I was there to help. I’ve got a killer design to simply switch out the rear hinges and replace with a 24” bearing slider allowing for a partial auto roll back capability. I wanna see some grease zerks on those rotating channels boys. Great job!

[@bonacker9762]

Send him a sample of your plan ..... Maybe go and help Paul build it

[@natyr707]

i love how no fluff no gimmick these videos are. fan for life, keep up the awesome Fab jobs

[@chrisoakey9841]

i think you should add cross bracing from the inside edge of the hinges to the other corner of that section. both in front and behind the hinges. to stiffen and support that high load area.

[@georgevindo]

I was hoping they would use heavier style greaseable hinges on that but its theirs to do with what they want to.

[@offroad6309]

Having a couple pick ups with dump beds I cuss the installers for not putting in zerks to grease the pivots. My PTO driven pump puts the electric over hydraulics to shame. The plus side of the electric is you can put a wireless remote on much cheaper and easier.

[@chrisoakey9841]

@@georgevindo hinges the whole way across would be my suggestion. and lots of cross bracing on both sides of that first section.

[@kpdvw]

The previous days were not failures Paul, they showed you what did NOT work thus you arrived @ the point with what will work! It is all part of the planning/execution and final production process! Congratulations are in order! It will turn out to be a super tilt/dump/flat bed truck!

[@BudFranks-fu9ye]

Love to see hunter and Landon really coming along great. You and Shawn are great teachers 👍💯🙏

[@brucemitch928]

Cool workaround to solve your issue but, i hate to say it, your hyd hoist should be the other way around, not to say it won’t work the way it is just a bit less efficient. Really enjoy you guys videos 👍

[@johnlove5715]

add telescoping ramps to the rear store underneath the aluminum deck or on/under the frame of the tilt, Looks great!!!!

[@RGP_WA]

Wow looks great! A little "sleeping on the problem" and you've figured it out!

[@sandyposey8074]

I just love the way you figure things out and make it work!

[@chadb83731]

This is one of my absolute favorite builds and the sound of that exhaust I love it!!! 💯 % beast

[@jcnme]

Hey Paul, Don't be so hard on yourself. You are more than smart when it comes to "figuring out/thinking through" the "process" of making something work properly. 👍🏼 Great Job Y'all ❤🙏

[@ncsaddlehunter77]

Instead of cutting the front of the bed and removing a section, you could cut the tail section and make it hinge so it folds onto itself while hauling but still give you the extra length while loading and unloading. This way, you don't have to lift so high to get the tail on the ground. Might come in handy when using it to haul anything other than the FJ.

[@damianfuller74]

BRILLIANT. Sleeping on something provides solutions. Awesome work.

[@marlobreding7402]

17:28 You must have missed the package opening day last week. Paul opened a box full of Silver Markers.❤

[@sapoverde65]

could be the new wood truck , would make empting real easy.

[@dalegereaux1863]

Nice work ! 👍 The way you guys get pieces of metal and weld them together and make something that works out, means y'all must be some kind of ing-ga-nears ! 👍

[@dansimmons1964]

When in doubt...build it stout! Looks amazing 👏

[@_1811]

12:28 you guys really put your heads together for that one!

[@flywiseman]

All those white out pens and still using a sharpie😉 Nice work

[@echobeefpv8530]

I knew you would figure it out ! You guys have enough hours in, that rollback is really taking shape ! Great work !

[@mh-qq2hj]

You guys are living the dream! Keep doing what you’re doing!

[@bicycleptic]

You have done exactly what I was thinking last week. For one who can figure physics building your own dump bed always works better than using one from another truck. The key component is the hydraulic cylinder. Everything else can be built to fit.

[@jongather9725]

With the ram driven tilt bed frame, why not put the bed on rollers with a winch similar to a roll-off dumpster truck?

[@danielbarrett6026]

Scrapping the rollback allows less to go wrong in the future. Less moving parts is easier to maintain and fix. 👌

[@josephprentice8354]

Maintenance was the same even if he would have kept the flat nose Isuzu cab. No difference he gave that to Merlin so no more tossing money into it instead he's tossing it into something beautiful

[@delialusk1]

Wow Good things take time!! Take your time and get it right 👍🏻 Good men

[@guyforlogos]

Love the show. Pretty sure you got the ram set up backwards, the hoist clam should be eating the cab.

[@pattkinder612]

That thing gets better every week. I can't wait to see it complete. 😎👍

[@johncase2974]

Thanks for a longer video……..enjoyed !

[@hammeringinthemornin]

Ok that looks good, now go the final step. Make some C channel which will fit over the outside of the dump rails. You can use nylon slides or small ball bearings so the C channel will slide on the dump rails. attach the bed to the C channels, add a ram in the back behind the dump ram. Now you have a fully operational roll back.

[@carl2771]

I have driven daycab semi tractors in neighborhoods and rural roads. The fairing at 12' takes out tons of branches and stuff constantly. Never mind the 14 trailer on the back. Prepare to replace things.

[@jeffchimileski6283]

Amazing as always. Paul, you are such a good role model.

[@Keinandrew3]

Thanks for this video guys sometime u win sometimes u loose glad u found something that works

[@carlcarter5456]

Like your truck. I'm looking forward to seeing 👀 it on a recovery.

[@willyporter7373]

Looking good! Nice to see the "FAB" in full action again. That will be good for side by side recoveries also.

[@willyporter7373]

Thinking about his boost gauge. Two options. 1 Use a 30's headlight assembly cut in half on the dash. 2 Build a GTO on the hood style gauge assembly. Personally I like out on the hood for visibility.

[@rolandtb3]

Time away to rethink. Stare and think. A plan that's on to something. A lift and tilt base frame. Simple, solid, workable solution. On to more greatness.

[@johnhart125]

Loved this project from start, now am as excited as you are, can't wait to see fj on there

[@MrTonyharrell]

You might want to make a lock for the hydraulic cylinder in case you need to work under it.👍 You can attach it to the frame when not in use, look at any piece of farm equipment and you’ll see them.

[@canuckchris5733]

I’m pretty excited to see the bed on that baby. Your gaining on it !!! 😎

[@lonhoschar1943]

The new plan is looking a LOT better. Things are working out.. finally! LOL!! "Why didn't we do this in the first place?"...Boy, have I asked myself that one a bunch of times!! LOL!!

[@harrytaylor6854]

Yes yes going to look so cool with the bed on it.Very well done guys

[@ianclark-fh8tu]

Good morning everyone 🤙🏼! Finally some ☀️ in nothern Jersey😎😎

[@ProDriver_83]

Paul, I can tell that you're not sure about what you're doing 100% and that you don't like it one bit because so many people have faith in you. I just wanted to reassure you that no matter the outcome of this rig, it never would have been completed without your knowledge and skill. You are the absolute best mechanic/fabricator I know and follow, so do what you do. It's gonna be badass in the end, I already know. I wrote this at minute 9:24...............

[@Ghandisgarage]

Hey Paul youre going to need a mansfield bar on the back with all that overhang.

[@Kevin-ti3rz]

Maybe something that can be removed. But not too heavy. Because that would kill the departure angle for off-road recovery's

[@Ghandisgarage]

@Kevin-ti3rz on rolloff dumpster trucks they fold so they dont get in the way

[@lory2622]

I love it!, there are tape measures *everywhere*.

[@Paredification]

"Everything's nice and stout" Everything reminds me of Ben.....😀

[@TheOnlyJonno]

I miss Ben.

[@saucercrabzero]

I hope Ben and Randall are doing well!

[@dananderson2786]

Gal dang it. How cool is that. Progress!! Thanks I needed some motivation!

[@ShineRunnersGarage]

Whoop! Whoop! I dig the ratback so much

[@MikeBaxterABC]

19:43 A lift that high an be Very handy .. like for a load of firewood that got frozen to the bed for example!! ... Or loading something vertical, without tipping it over first.

[@jimderrick846]

This is what I love about this channel. I figured that there would be a great comeback after some awesome imagineering… ❤❤

[@stout_tossme7541]

Yes!!! I have been waiting for this. I love the ole Cummins

[@MakeFixUpgrade]

Some kind of a crash bar would be a good idea given how much overhang you have off the back of that. Wouldn't want to accidentally decapitate someone if they rear ended you.

[@bryduhbikeguy]

They do have that massive bumper/hitch to reinstall. Good call.

[@badbatch974]

That truck looks awesome. I love that cab. Putting it on a new frame with a functional lift is to haul your trucks is the coolest thing I’ve seen in a long time. Sure beats that yellow international tow truck I’ve seen around.

[@byronwoolnough6941]

Almost, half way to making a tilt slide tray. 2 lengths of PFC to go over either side of your RHS, 2 short lift rams towards the front of the tray, frame work on top of the PFC's to hold them in place and allow them to slide along the outside of the RHS with the long ram from your other tray.

[@travelin_taco]

THIS. What I’ve been saying all along!

[@BitBuhkit]

@@travelin_taco now don't go all Pythagoras on us!

[@thebrowns5337]

You could add climbing holds to the bed and take it out as an attraction if you get a spare afternoon - goes almost vertical so would make a nice leaning wall for kids.

[@lanceleavitt7472]

On the computer, everything works perfectly; but out in the shop, everything evolves. --- Thanks for great upload. ---

[@rightwingmanscott]

He can just load the wood truck on it! LOL

[@lambertsaldi1550]

Awesome work Paul and crew 👍🇺🇸🗽🇺🇸👍

[@mrheart4242]

If you trim the approach, end of the bed. It could be hinged to be the ramp. Just swing under with a slam latch. The bed will remain the length you want and a hinged section to fold under. Less work. Later installing a hydronic ram to extend and retract it as needed. Just a thought. Even a pneumatic ram to the job.

[@JAQGAS]

OMG you had all that stuff on backwards! The tilt rams go in front of the axle and the pivot at very back and the end of the frame behind the axle.

[@yellowduck104]

U try to tell them or give them ideas and they don't listen we're only trying to help

[@davidlee186]

thats what I thought ?

[@catman19]

I told them that last video

[@josephprentice8354]

Yes your comments are only about 2 weeks 2 late I figured y'all with all the brains would remember these are shot and the job was finished prior to being released. Meaning the jobs been done way before your 2 pennies were thrown out he will fix what doesn't work. Give it a couple weeks.

[@martinblevins9442]

Hey Paul , Just a heads up, your hydraulic. cylinder needs to be at the bottom of its stroke when the the bed frame is down. If not every time you bring the bed down your cylinder will be trying to overtravel and will eventually break the mount on your bed. This can be avoided by a little measure taping and installing stops internally in the cylinder.

[@RCMeniscus]

Love the split screen at 17:25!

[@JerryTip]

Nice work boys! and I second a safety/work under bar!

[@mikeroll9868]

Beautiful build. Patience and persistence pays off for Paul and crew.

[@williamd1891]

I think Paul is learning from Robby on how to be a dairy farmer and how to milk a cow. 😂

[@connor5cents]

Depending on how long the flat bed tray is you should mount ramps that slide out from under the bed that are track width that don't interfere with the subframe. Use spring latchs to hold the ramps in place while extended and closed to allow a more subtle load angle without the need for additional bed length other than what's required. As Paul would say "I don't see why that just won't work."

[@lbeliel4128]

Problems are nothing more than opportunities…to do more work!

[@jackrichards1863]

Where the front is is always one vertical tab each side to stop the top tip bed part twisting out of line with the bottom rails (chassis) when in the down position. Just might remind you what you already knew Paul? The Cummins sounds real business like!

[@timreed2127]

It will have a stronger dump with the hoist the other way around.

[@harveystephens6115]

Put you a safety brace you can put under raised bed and lower it down on it to keep bed from falling on you if you are under it working on it. Nice job.

[@calisteve15]

Love no fear as u weld over top a fuel tank could have used that fire blanket😂

[@MrJoesphares]

Diesel is a lot less flammable than gasoline 😂

[@calisteve15]

Real life rat trap though

[@whatnow5313]

I can't imagine the current configuration hauling vehicles. Can you?

[@justingould7348]

11’whatever isn’t too tall to haul the FJ down the road, most tractor trailers are 13’6”. Granted the truck still should have been stretched and had duals or a tandem axel but you should have put the work in to make a roll back. I know my opinion means nothing but I am extremely disappointed. You destroyed that poor little roll back for no reason. You should have just cab swapped and 4x4 converted that or taken the time to redo the frame and suspension any one can have a dump bed.

[@UnholiestJedi]

It's too tall for the person building it, that is all that matters.

[@rhondasweeney7271]

This video has been awesome. Love all the ingenuity that is going into it. Paul, you are a dreamer, and I am so glad because you make things come true. Even if other things don't. Thank you to everybody who helped with that framework. Thanks for sharing! 😊

[@texas4ever]

Love the content but I just don’t see how you’ll have enough capacity on either the suspension or the single tires to haul the FJ

[@noonehere1793]

Beautiful job…..you guys are all artists👍👍….well done.

[@Taylormade_Detailing]

You and your family are as I say good human beings! You sir have also helped me clean up my language . I have passed your channel on to other officers I work with at my PD. Thanks for your motivational videos as in if you gotta problem , just do your best and fix it!

[@jamescrane8873]

Since you guys are making the actual deck bolt on, I think it’d be awesome if you built like different beds to put on it. I know that’s a lot of work but I think it would be so cool. Like have the tow bed, a dump bed, and whatever else y’all might need. Just a thought. Love the content y’all

[@kellyclasen1667]

You may have failed the first time but this time you did a really good job getting that frame put together for the flatbed awesome work

[@paulcooper9135]

Never a fail, only a redisgn or learning experience ... BUT .. today was certainly a Win! Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦

[@davebenson1504]

Awesome.... Great work... GREAT NEW design.... 🙂

[@TheOldaz1]

Coming together nicely. Now need to put the ally top on it, make sure it's long enough for what you want, won't matter if it sticks out the back another foot or two.

[@taurota1554]

Outstanding and awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along

[@theburtseoni]

It's good to see progress being made on the Rat Roll Back! The plan is starting to come together!

[@justingould7348]

It’s no longer a roll back… ☹️

[@theburtseoni]

@@justingould7348 Yep, I should have called it the Former Rat Roll Back!

[@warringwarthog]

When I built my 49 dodge c.o.e roll back in 2016 I ran into the same problem I finally gave in and used a frame from a 07 sterling ( ram with a fancy name) with a 6.7 and 6 spd been great for the last 8 yrs

[@malcolmyarnold6172]

Good job guys slowly but surely yous are getting there well done

[@COM70]

Well done, tough slog, looks very clean now.

[@jimwebb9328]

If you add some stake pockets to the deck you could build some removable sides and then use it as a dump truck when not hauling vehicles.