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[@billiam]

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[@johnmillay6790]

@@mrmysterious8124 ooo that's a good idea for a vid

[@jamesshadeslayer3395]

y do u ignore my question? i was part of ur discord server 4 a while on my main account b4 it got hacked & locked behind 2fa & i just want back in on my alt

[@marocat4749]

I think flashganms could b fine, if the data selling, whre facbook is esopcially scammy, yeah.I am met meta is doing badly :P WTF they sold irremovable malware games :( An then ruined occulus. That now, runs only with meta an only meta. Vrchat is where it, and the furries are, who run the internet. Ther is even an earthbending workout game. rumble. Hmm if they dont try to be greedy, i wish fortnite good luck becoming social media.

[@MouhumadOmar]

Will learning and Junk ever come back?

[@ExplodingDuckBrigade]

Skipped

[@berry2813]

"You look like a guy who throws up" is an amazing insult that really took me off-guard

[@suendenhund]

And the deafening silence after Billiam said he did because of anxiety. Killed me

[@carbonated_salt9645]

Me irl I literally have prescription nausea pills 💀💀💀

[@tsb4]

My mom was addicted to Farmville for so long but then one day I decided to set her up with Stardew Valley and she never looked back

[@olemgar6530]

Now that's a fricking W

[@LegendStormcrow]

Good job bro. That's why I got my wife Harvest Moon

[@krux02]

@@LegendStormcrow Yea sad story about Harvest Moon and who owns that brand etc. Long story short, Harvest Moon is by now just a shadow of a game that is nowadays much better implemented as Stardew Valley.

[@CrabJock]

Yes. This is the way to do it.

[@LegendStormcrow]

@@krux02 I heard. A subtitle split as a separate company.

[@rileywilloughby7818]

As someone named Riley, I did not expect to be bullied for my name by children in the Metaverse

[@twistedyogert]

Can you punch other people in the Metaverse?

[@rileymeathammer]

Me too, Riley

[@girrrrrrr2]

Hahaha hahaha... Your name is Riley!

[@scoobydoo23320]

If Mark Zuckerberg had a way to transmit ad right into our brains he would do it without a first thought.

[@johnmillay6790]

Ha, you think he isn't already trying.

[@lilwerner1518]

most capitalists would tbh

[@marocat4749]

Dont tellhim futurama predicted that as nightmare :(

[@karenamyx2205]

You mean without a second thought? The first thought is the thought to do the thing. Without the first thought, you're not doing anything.

[@ddjsoyenby]

ya know the reapers from the mass effect games...........mark is a less human and more evil version of them.

[@BasicGeometry]

Why is the MetaKids teaching Billiam how to play virtual Thor is actual so wholesome?? Until one of them dropped an f bomb.

[@umbrellathorn]

that was so cute :) calling him “sir” and gently explaining what to do next haha. kids are so funny sometimes

[@WhereAllYourDeletedCommentsGo]

Kids like them are cool.

[@digimaniacstudios5959]

I would actually watch a whole video of that, it wad so much fun watching Billiam interact with them.

[@TheOneTrueNeravarOfOoo]

The f bomb is was funny. 😂 I love the kids that are just talking so much shit. The next generation of player haters is gonna be revolutionary to the game

[@obeseperson]

@@TheOneTrueNeravarOfOoo No

[@vylbird8014]

I have a theory about Meta's awful avatars: I think it's intentional, to head off the possibility of becoming too 'internet.' It's supposed to be bland, like elevator music: Not exciting, but also incapable of upsetting anyone. Meta wants to attract people who are not immersed in online culture, and business users as well. You're not going to attract businesses to your platform if it's full of furries, waifus and lolis. So Meta goes with the mr-potato-head approach to avatar creation and greatly limits scripting. So that their metaverse may be a respectable location, where future businesses may one day hold major corporate events without fear of being swarmed by flying penises or raided by trolls wearing KKK costumes.

[@weelzneal4768]

Yeah nobody needs to see furries

[@DaimyoD0]

If you haven't already, I hugely recommend you watch 'Making Sense of VRChat, the "Metaverse" People Actually Like,' by People Make Games. It's basically a video essay discussing this, along with how VRChat's unbridled approach toward individual liberty has culminated in unmoderated insanity and unadulterated personal expression, for better or for worse. Probably mostly better. Hard to say lol

[@icp7201]

@@DaimyoD0 For now, I think. It's the same as the internet was, forums were mostly unmoderated in the beggining, while the internet was new and adoption was low, and it was fine. As soon as mass adoption began, unmoderated forums and sites became breeding grounds for hate groups and pedophiles, whose general bigotry and hostility ended up driving the majority of users away. For now, we're in the beggining of VR spaces and environments. If mass adoption comes, places like VR Chat will probably veer towards more moderation. Hell, even sites like 4chan have moderation nowadays

[@Tink00]

Omg it's the virtual avatar version of business casual

[@j-skullz]

Yeah but they could at least make them look nice, like just make them like sims characters or something. hell the xbox 360 avatars looked better than this and they're from like 15 years ago

[@jasperjazzie]

"who would get so obsessed over a virtual farm?" i say, having over 300 hours in stardew valley, lmao

[@ameliabrittain158]

I have over 1,000, it’s a problem

[@MelodyRose96]

At the least the only time where you take our your credit card for Stardew Valley is the initial purchase, and every DLC is instead given for free as updates lol

[@Rad-Dude63andathird]

@@MelodyRose96 It also like, has gameplay past clicking a few buttons once or twice a day.

[@NoahDaArk]

@@Rad-Dude63andathirdAnd like… a genuinely enjoyable gameplay loop supported by gorgeous pixel art

[@HurricaneDDragon]

It’s funny how impossible it is to feel even a little sympathy for any person or corporation that loses double digit BILLIONS of dollars. Like… no one should have that much money in the first place, and literally the only way to amass it is by having no sympathy for humanity.

[@NoahDaArk]

Honestly I’d rather be a millionaire then a billionaire. You give me a million dollars I know exactly what I’d do with it, but a billion? That’s too much cash man

[@SabreBash]

I work in mobile games, and the gossip you get to hear is the most fascinating part. I have coworkers who helped create wing commander, warcraft devs, king's isle dropouts, but a LOT of people came to my company from Zinga. The general scuttlebutt is that the pay can (sometimes) be competitive but the culture is BRUTAL. Quite a few people will groan openly when you bring them up.

[@amnoirgg8563]

Those Metakids are next level funny. Anytime a YT person ventures into the abyss there is always one that never ceases to bring the entertainment.

[@UnclePhil73]

Embarrassed to admit I fell for Zynga’s shovelware. I even joined Facebook groups who’s only purpose was to become friends with each other and we agreed we were ok with spamming each other with Zynga requests.

[@gabepatton9851]

I wonder if these comment bots get excited when they find the words "I fell for"

[@kirabana]

I did that too!

[@ruthielalastor2209]

Billiam interacting with the kids in VR is the absolute c u t e s t .

[@dstinnettmusic]

I kind of have a lot of nostalgia for like….2012 Facebook. When it was just about talking to your friends and family. I stopped with Facebook when they started shifting focus to groups. I don’t think it gets talked about enough how this transition to social media being about talking to the people you knew in real life to being about finding little clubs of people who share your interests but will otherwise never interact with has been a big part of why it feels like we are at each others throats all the time. I would give anything when the angriest I got online was having too many requests to play games with m friends….

[@ddjsoyenby]

i remember old facebook........it was a different beast.

[@bcc5701]

When politics started dumping money into it things got so shitty. Sucks man.

[@wesleypatterson2989]

I don't think it's so much the existence of groups themselves, but allowing said groups to become political, religious, etc. I think if Facebook was structured like it is now BUT allowed for absolutely no political or religious discussions in any context whatsoever, it wouldn't be nearly as toxic

[@ramppappia]

@@wesleypatterson2989 who decides what's political? because some people think gay people existing is political

[@OliverBooks]

I love that the most fun Bill had was failing to play a game with children 😂

[@j-skullz]

The pressure to play Farmville back then was real, I remember my friend would bug our friend group every day at school to play with him (none of the rest of us cared about Facebook) so I made an account and watered his plants just to make him happy, repeated a couple times then ditched it, I thought it was boring and had scammy vibes - I'm actually pretty proud of young teen me for seeing that lol growing up online is wild. even after i stopped playing it would still be all over my homepage and every other notification I got would be to farm/fish/mafia/whateverville invites (reminder they were pushing this stuff on KIDS). I even joined a group called "I don't care about your farm, your mafia, or your fish" or something like that lmao. only really used Facebook after that for the chat feature and complaining about school and am now the proud owner of a deactivated Facebook account, the site is boring and shady just like the games and from what I can see the metaverse is no different. We deserve better as consumers.

[@belenbarria568]

I need a whole video of Billiam interacting with the Metakids

[@ChefArella]

As someone who makes a side income off of Second Life (I sell items I've created in Blender, plus my own paintings), MetaVerse was always doomed to fail IMO. This style of social media space is way more connected to people's creativity than MetaVerse will ever be able to admit. The built-in market for this sort of chat space is used to having a 90%-95% user-created world, and the freedom to express how they look and their surroundings to a high degree of customization. Even in VRChat, there's more creativity that goes into it than MetaVerse currently allows for. Unless they change that, it's DOA on all fronts.

[@XetXetable]

On your VR experiences, I had a similar view early on. For nausia, that's something most people have to get used to. They call it getting your "VR legs", similar to getting "sea legs" when getting over sea sickness. For about a week, I played in 30-45 minute intervals 2-3 times a day, and after that week I stopped getting nausia. That's pretty typical for a lot of people. On the quality of quest games, the quest is fundamentally a glorified android smart phone. Anything that won't run (or won't run well) on such a device won't run on a quest. There are a few exceptions (Walking Dead: Saints and Sinners, Resist, and Song in the Smoke come to mind as examples of proper feeling games on the platform), but most are on the same level as a typical phone game. Most examples of proper feeling games in VR need a PC. Also, Facebook definitely views Fortnite as a competitor. Facebook made the game Population: One as a direct competitor on the Quest.

[@Sarahm2261]

What your opinion on asgard wrath 2 and assassin creed nexus?

[@averyjeanne]

This is probably your best video Billiam. I really hadn’t understood what the metaverse was before watching this. Now I actually understand it and I hate it! Thanks

[@johnmillay6790]

Right? This was as educational as PBS

[@blingmoney]

Surprised you didn't mention PC vr. There are so many more pcvr games since Facebooks headset is android based and standalone. For the titles that are on both pc and meta, the meta versions almost always feel like the McDonald's toy equivalent of the pc games. There are also tons of mods for regular games that turn them into vr with varying degrees of success.

[@bcc5701]

He did he mentioned how to have vr pc going you need like 1000$ of stuff: pc able to support, headset, etc

[@Bvshbvnny]

I used to be obsessed with farmtown (it was 2009, I was 7) and I was so relieved when I found stardew valley after all of the games were deleted off of facebook. I probably would've liked stardew valley more back then too if I knew about it. I was just happy that the animals moved around on their own and weren't confined to a small box

[@sam6764]

My friends and I lied about our age so we could sign up for Facebook just to play Farmville.

[@Digiflower5]

By the way Billiam I recommend checking out Moss for VR, they got a demo and it's both charming and you won't get sick. It's a game of about helping a little mouse named Quill to save her uncle and everyone around here. Its a puzzle platformer.

[@Trees...]

It's also just very pretty.

[@bcc5701]

Am I the little mouse? Like the vr is from a little mouse perspective?

[@Sarahm2261]

​@bcc5701 no it a vr platformer, just look up gameplay to see what I mean

[@kozaky6584]

It's always a great day when Billiam uploads

[@johnmillay6790]

It's not Scooby-Doo but it's pretty good

[@spellinwaiting5290]

I love my Quest 2, but I've definitely noticed when I use it lately they're trying REALLY hard to push Horizons on me. I turn it on and they start insisting on stuff like setting up a profile or choosing an avatar. It's all been skippable so far, luckily.

[@anteaterchronicles]

I grew up 15min from Yountville, it's always funny to hear the french laundry mentioned randomly in youtube videos. not even surprised its a hotspot for rich silicon valley tourists

[@HoChiMints2007]

Billiam having fun with British kids is wholesome

[@zekecontreras77]

Thank you for how well researched and nuanced your videos always are! You are awesome, kind, and hilarious Billiam!

[@ButWhyWasTaken]

32:27 a small, supposedly cute animal thing sounding like a creepy stalker guy is not really my idea of what would make a great pet in any situation, even a regular video game I play on a screen. Imagine hearing _that_ behind you at 3 am

[@thedigiknow]

Can't get over how good this video is. I've observed that the people who were "pioneering' (barf) predatory Facebook games went on to pioneer hyper-predatory mobile games and then were first in line for the uber-predatory crypto / blockchain "games" -- the common thread? Get-rich-quick start up weirdos trying to make as much money as humanly possible BEFORE regulation arrives. Regulation hit Facebook so they moved their gross games to iOS & Android. Regulation arrived in those spaces so they were first to cheerlead for web3 blockchain "gaming" -- these guys just want to beat the regulators.

[@meyadin5844]

when i was a kid i went onto farm town and went into the marketplace, advertising myself as a harvester to go onto their plot of lands to harvest everybodys crops. i would keep all of their crops to myself and make bank and got farmtown rich off of doing that

[@shatteredslime1593]

ive gotten facebook ads advertising ads. no kidding. they were saying how targeted ads lead to new ideas and how having your info stolen so you can be bombarded by companies that want to drain your wallet of every last penny is somehow good.

[@ectofriend]

This was a very different style of Billiam video but it was an INCREDIBLY well done and informative video. This was an absolute banger dude. I hope this does well so we can get more videos in this style from you. One of my new favs.

[@ButWhyWasTaken]

33:20 Zuck's problem is that he is trying to start a game like the Oasis from Ready Player One or like Sword art Online but at least 20 years before the technology is even possible and probably in an attempt to gloss over this fact he decided on an art style that looks like a 15 year old shovelware game for the original wii, completely blind to the fact that using visuals like a crappy old kids' game is pretty much the same as taking Oppy out back and putting _it_ down himself. Oh and of course the point that the vast majority of what he proposes is total bullshit that adds pointless layers of inconvenience and paywalls to what already exists and what is already fairly convenient, he tries to create need for useless fluff no one needs nor even wants and _completely and utterly_ fails at selling it. Literally no one thinks VR is cool because shit looks like an educational game from the early 2000s but because in movies and anime it looks awesome and epic, either like reality to the point where it's not possible to tell the difference aside from small clues or because it's grand vistas and epic fantasy or sci fi worlds that would allow people to experience something completely impossible in irl. *NOT* because it allows people to use crappy, goofy avatars to do what video conferences can already do easily and effortlessly now but requiring a bulky, heavy headset that can easily cause headaches or nausea in healthy people and would be an actual health risk to anyone with a number of health issues and thereby discriminating against anyone like this. Not to mention that even healthy people will have to call it quits every couple of hours or so for an extended break so gamers won't be able to play nearly as much and crucial business meetings will have to be cut short or at least split up which means the next time people will most likely have to waste time repeating what happened last time as refresher and it will cause even more scheduling issues than any regular meeting. In short, the metaverse is total bs that adds virtually nothing but inconvenience and paywalls and fails to even dress up nicely to appeal to anyone, it's already failed before it even started. At best Zuck can hope to recupe a bit of money from some niche applications like e.g. people still playing Second Life or maybe he can manage to create some metaverse apps actually useful for some business niches but the widespread success he imagines is basically the same as Trump expecting Jared to sort out the Arab-Israeli conflict just because he would like it to happen.

[@MF-R]

Bill Bill Bill Bill... Billiam the Billiam guy!

[@GleePotter8468]

I know it’s like that everywhere and have been for a long time but the part with the kids just make me think about all the creepy older people interacting with kids.

[@favoritemustard3542]

@12:30 **says there's boos** **doesn't play said boos** _Boo! We wants ta hear `em!!_

[@jamesm4247]

Just for some additional details on Zynga Some of their social games, like Draw Something, were direct results of the purchase and gutting of Omgpop

[@jupiter_jazz]

one of zynga’s offices is near me in SF and it’s fucking huge, i don’t know how you could go to work there every day without being embarrassed 😭 that’s the home of farmville 😭

[@saifors]

A description I've heard of Meta's VR strategy is that it's about control. They want to get in ahead of the curve so that they can own the platform indepently as with Facebook they are dependant on the platforms of other companies, be it an app store or devices (they apparently made an attempt at facebook smartphones in the past to get past that but it flopped), which does make sense if you're a big tech company you probably don't want the other big tech companies, who are technically your competitors, to have your lifeline in their hands. Basically they want to be the first big company in a new industry to secure their place within it instead of staying on the sinking ship that facebook has become.

[@dreamingpichu2334]

At the moment, the only VR games I desperately want to try are Job Simulator and Vacation Simulator. Just because they seem so charming with the bizarre amount of freedom you get even within confined spaces. It's basically what lil me was imagining on the playground at school, and I find that fun.

[@stinkbanana2522]

Zucc saw Ready Player One and decided he wanted to be the villain from that

[@XxTaiMTxX]

The problem I ended up inevitably having with Farmville: It eventually felt like I wasn't really doing anything. I wasn't REALLY accomplishing anything. The entire gameplay revolved around just... managing your time. Which meant that anything you "accomplished" wasn't actually an accomplishment. There was no way to "have bragging rights" at all. As a gamer, I like having a few options for bragging. Even if I can only brag to myself that I did something. The problem I have with Facebook: Why is this thing showing EVERYTHING except what my friends are up to? It's only good for the chat boxes now. Especially since so few people use Skype, which is vastly superior to Discord. Unless you want to talk to a bajillion people at once, when most of them are annoying and/or stupid and shouldn't be opening their mouths to begin with (so... used in Raids, essentially, and useless outside of anything beyond that). Thank you Facebook for being a glorified chat service for me. I miss MSN and AOL Messenger. I miss Yahoo Messenger. Now I've got Skype and Facebook for messenging people. Facebook decided to make itself useless.

[@xAlexZifko]

buddy i hate to be the one to break it to you but you arent accomplishing anything with ANY game. theyre ALL just "managing your time" doing little insignificant activities which while fun, will absolutely not give you any long term sense of accomplishment

[@name-nl3jk]

@@xAlexZifko Even going by that logic, it's clear that some are more that than others. Beating a Dark Souls boss is more rewarding than Farmvile. Especially, since there is no real goal to Farmvile except infinite growth really.

[@xAlexZifko]

@@name-nl3jk youre missing the point entirely. im saying that no video game achievements will ever translate into true, real world fulfillment for the extreme majority of people and the time you spend on any of them is equal.

[@XxTaiMTxX]

@@xAlexZifko Ah, a non-gamer. Here's what you fail to understand about gaming and why you're using a reductive argument. Video games are "escapism" for a vast majority of people who play. They do not exist purely for "fun". Because, if all you wanted was a sense of "fun", well, there's free prawn on the internet on demand anytime you want. That's just the pinnacle of dopamine hits outside of illegal substances. If you want something in between, you can engage in other activities. Hanging out with friends in real life, going bowling, to a sports game, shopping, read a book, watch a TV show, or whatever. There's a bajillion ways to "have fun". Especially since "fun" is little more than having an emotional attachment and reaction to an activity (anything you can't emotionally connect to, will never be fun for you, it's pretty interesting science when you begin studying it). So, with video games being "escapism" in mind, there are reasons people use video games to "escape". Primairly, it is to have the experiences you can not or will not ever have in your real life. Saving the world, getting an idealized mate, building up an empire from nothing, etcetera. Farmville taps into "addiction" and not "fun" for the typical gamer. It's systems are designed to create a schedule for the player and keep them returning, even when they aren't having fun. I am one of the few gamers that "addiction mechanics" don't work on, because I innately realize what is going on and decide that "the juice isn't worth the squeeze" anymore. It's why I never got into Fortnite, most MOBAs, or even Overwatch. Addiction Mechanics just don't do anything for me, and when your game revolves around those to "be fun", your game is "not fun" for me. To that extent, I require a game have what is basically "a set of boxes to tick". Goals, accomplishments, rewards that prove I checked the boxes. Something that proves I did more than just "waste my life" to get to where I was in the game. Stuff that shows I did the thing that (preferably) required some level of intellectual skill to accomplish, or some level of mental fortitude. Or, even, that I'm just the one person who did the thing because nobody else thought it was worth it to do it. Are real life accomplishments better? Yes and no. With someone who has dozens of real life accomplishments under his belt, I can tell you that those come with "more responsibilities" and "more people counting on you". They also take a lot longer to accomplish in real life and get recognition for than you would in a video game environment. Video games simplify this considerably. You got the title, you got the little knicknack to show you did the thing, everyone recognizes it at a glance and knows what you did, and it doesn't bring you any further hassle for having accomplished the thing. We're also talking accomplishments that might take a matter of hours or days rather than ones that would take YEARS. So, it's the escapism of "I accomplished something without all the hassle associating with having accomplished something and all the downsides to accomplishing something". Farmville doesn't have these "accomplishment" mechanics. Everything is achieved purely by "spending your life" on it. No intellectual skill involved. No reflexes involved. No personality traits required. Nothing. It is the equivalent of a participation trophy. Nobody likes to win the Participation Trophy.

[@backwooddagn6888]

I know for a fact I did not just see someone wholeheartedly claim that Skype is "VASTLY SUPERIOR" to Discord. As someone who used Skype for years, and then switch to discord; discord is leagues better. The audio quality on calls is better, calls drop less often. Skype also seems to lower your webcam's natural quality which I have not noticed with discord at all. Discord is better for making new friends as well. Idk in what possible way Skype could ever be considered better than discord.

[@mylamename14]

I used to get so many FarmVille notifications from my boomer aunt that I had to block her to make it stop. She was *pissed* for weeks.

[@katethielen3883]

32:00 Google used AR to show me what a life sized duck was and it couldn't fit in the room

[@sphjinx1448]

“Billions and BILLIAMS of dollars…” I see what was done there.

[@lewatoaofair2522]

9:36 I can’t not think of this South Park episode whenever these predatory gaming practices are brought up.

[@zero195]

From what I hear they are trying to market it more as a business product that companies will need, yet I don't think any company wants to waste 500-1500 PER EMPLOYEE just to have "in person meetings" in the Metaverse. The stupid thing is that they are going all in, because they want to "revolutionize" the work from home market, yet computers already exist, are cheaper, and you can use for longer periods of time without getting sick. Plus programs like Skype and Zoom exist (and are FREE), so there is literally no reason to have 3D avatar BS in a virtual world when video chat is a thing.

[@Safersephiroth777]

I can't even remember how many hours I played Mafia Wars and Vampire Wars. In fact this is why I created my Facebook account. To play these games!

[@lizard3755]

I love to see people calling out Facebook. The Steve Apple joke was also a gem.

[@iamthemurray16]

Maybe if Zuck actually got some developers for VR they might be able to pull it off. But hes fighting against consoles. Kinda like the growing pains of the early generation 3D games, it'll take a while but it could happen?

[@lkmdude8094]

There was 1 single Facebook game that I liked playing before it was shut down (2 if you count backyard monsters). I don't remember the name of it, but it was an autobattler where you constructed your army with units from 4 different factions and there was a single player mode that felt fair with it's energy as well as a ladder where you could fight people at a similar level to your own. I played it about once a week on my dad's Facebook account, but one day it was just gone. Removed from the game list and nowhere to be found. I wish I could remember the name of it because I want to find other games like it since if anyone else liked that idea and improved upon it I would love to play it.

[@ButWhyWasTaken]

31:26 Dennou Coil Sword Art Online Ordinal Scale

[@maenad1231]

Being spammed with FarmVille notifications was part of the reason I deleted my Facebook well over a decade ago lol

[@LBVED]

the little kid insults and big daddy amongus are sending me kids are so funny, also the thor hammer was so wholesome i feel bad that they are getting all their data mined and it will be years before they realise just like me when i started going on facebook in the 7th grade and now I know because i have a bad memory that they know more about me that i can remember from all these years, since i stopped using fb well into my 20s :(

[@enigmaoftheechidna6279]

Savanah with the cameo, looking great! Love the content, the retro toys are my favorites

[@Foervraengd]

“youre probably 5 and probably named like Riley” is the funniest and best insult ive heard today

[@MissVanessaJune]

my mom played mafia wars. She got majorly addicted to it and would ignore me for days on end + got fired for not showing up to work.

[@planescaped]

I remember playing farmville-like browser games in the early 00's back when I was in middle school... Then I learned that emulators existed and tossed that shit to the curb! These games were never good. They were the "make-do" experience for children with no income and those who didn't know any better.

[@catguy5425]

40:10 "and it truthfully felt like this entire universe of wacky people that you can spend hours inside of." You might want to try rephrasing that one. lmao

[@pocketenix]

I still use facebook to see what family is up to and i gotta admit, EVERYTIME a Meta ad pops in my feed i never know what its trying to tell me. Ive seen ads about this Meta thing for so long yet none of them say outright what it is. Is is a game? A social platform? A VR Hub? A store? An App? New Facebook? This is the first time i ever knew what Metaverse was and it says a lot that i learned what it was watching 5 minutes of your video, than the hundreds of ads ive seen for it. Sounds really sketchy though. They say that if you have to ask "What exactly are you selling me though?", then it is most likely a scam.

[@ingozingo626]

i now remember why i wanted facebook so bad as an 11 yr old i just wanted to play the sims free play on there

[@randomtinypotatocried]

I'm still waiting for vr to get better before investing in one of those headsets, especially since I get nausea so easily now. Also, I adore ar and the potentials of it (really want that clean desk too while still being able to work on stuff)

[@neXxsuss]

- thought your salt lamp was a gallon of orange juice.

[@rileysimmons9347]

Little british kid: "Who are you calling kid?!? You're probably 5 and you're probably named Riley" Me, a person named Riley: ....damn ok

[@m0chikim_]

I remember my mom being into Farmville and and the app Zynga Slots (i actually miss that game) but after that I just forgot about Facebook games. I remember some of the other ones like Nightclub Story or Bakery Story (anyone remember those?)

[@tkng2001]

I was addicted to these games on Facebook like Restaurant City and Zynga until now.

[@zinstone7286]

i remember my grandparents in the early 2000s would call flash a virus. Then years later farmvile comes out and suddenly its safe...

[@EmperorPretzel]

I feel like people always say how VR is still early and we will get there eventually. But is it? I mean VR has been around for decades and oculus is like ten years old now. Imagine if a console was that old and we still said give it time and all it came out to show for it was beatsaber. I get it's more of a new medium than a system but I'm still not convinced it will ever replace screens and I play Half Life Alyx and loved it. But all these companies are gonna collapse before we get there. Maybe Apple will take a shot at it who knows

[@TheFlinchyDinosaur]

If we're talking specifically about meta VR then yeah, mostly each demos and shorter games, but when you look at third party stuff you get a lot more high quality stuff

[@thedigiknow]

I hate that at first I thought the Zuck seen at 1:15 was a render lmao

[@QuaseVingativa]

the part with the kids made me laugh so hard

[@JamesLawner]

I was expecting this to be a deep dive into all the games that were available on Facebook, because the “Ville” games were just the tip of the iceberg. I remember playing games like Avengers Alliance, Avengers Alliance 2 (which was basically a 3D version of the first game, with some mobility and exploration added), The Hunger Games Adventures (my personal favorite, because of how it fit alongside the narrative of the Hunger Games movies, but I never finished it and it’s gone now. However, it was annoying how every activity done in the game to progress the story cost energy points, and I had to wait hours to recharge, but you could gain energy points from napping or using a campfire), The Sims Social (most laggy-est game on Facebook ever!), and Tetris (can’t go wrong with the classics!).

[@troyhubbler9874]

The way you connected with that fubu woman is exactly what Zuckerberg imagined his world is being built and we are the alaves

[@cosmicrevolt7476]

The clowns remind me of when a call center hired a mariachi band to walk around our call center. The employees and the customers hated this.

[@theotakux5959]

I miss having PSVR. The ocean exploring 'game' it came with (more of a movie, really, since you can't do anything in it) was a lot of fun. I had my son play it, and the shark attacking the cage freaked him out. Then I called my mom, had her come over, and had her try it. The shark freaked her out, too. Sadly there wasn't a ton to do in the VR over all. Longer games got annoying, and short games were, well, short, you could play through them a lot and they'd get boring, too. Though I'll fully admit I was too scared to play Resident Evil in VR. The demo was too much for me...

[@spindlephysalia7564]

I cannot emphasise enough how the british dude talking to zuck at 35:50 is nick clegg, former british prime minister and current whipping boy for meta whenever they fuck up and need a scapegoat

[@SirSchark]

I hung out with the kid of the marketing director of zynga i believe it was around 2011-2012 they fired him because he wasnt pushing more adds and zynga had basically died competing with mobile games

[@firej77]

"VRchat is the most loved option" *collartug* yeeeg, i mean... technically youre not wrong ...but boy when they threw in that anti cheat

[@basboye]

36:22 literally the plot of digimon cyber sleuth hackers memory

[@Mikeawave]

Great vid. But why was this not a collaboration with Scot the Woz?

[@eliharper6616]

"Billions and Billiams of dollars"😂

[@slowbrobutch]

not sure where the ideal place to request certain video topics is so apologies if this is not the appropriate forum to do so but i would love to see you do a video on gigapets

[@ItsChuckShirley]

Lol tbh the only (former) facebook-based games that I still plays are Ghost Trappers Classic(y'all remember the whisky ban war? lol), MouseHunt(surprisingly still thriving), and Fish Wrangler. Mostly because they are passive-based(you don't need to be constantly online to progress).

[@FortesAccount]

I loved right around 32 minutes where he accidentally invents stands from jojos bizarre adventure "a ghost version of you that pops out and dances.." dead on. lol too funny

[@LettaLeeJoy]

Dude, I love your hat! Like, I'm only one second into the video and that's my big takeaway right now! Where can I buy it?

[@curnies]

I think it's from Forever 21 from my googling!

[@EdKolis]

VR Chat reminds me of Second Life, with all the crude user generated content. It's kind of charming in that way. But what ever happened to Second Life? Did it ever transition to VR?

[@robertkillingsworth7149]

Bruh, I didn't get a notification! Thanks for the post, Billiam.

[@Salty010]

i still remember the nostalgia im also addicted to play facebook games i play restaurant city by playfish but before that i play alot of other zynga games like mafia wars and i that time im in college had a friends also addicted zynga poker games... like damn almost my that year btach play some random facebook games hahaha2 but before that I already experience free to play, just play games without top up money... using timing and planning of how to play efficiently... but i kinda stop and only play restaurant city till the day it close...and after that not bother to play facebook browser game anymore...i think that time also got a game call car wars? that using car that game gimmick simillar like mafia wars are freaking popular...spawn multiple simillar gameplay...

[@crizmeow8394]

the only reaosn I created a facebook profile was to play their games... I lowkey miss them, i never spent a single cent in them, instead, we used to create groups and add each other to be able to get the rewards instead of spamming out irl friends. I stopped using facebook after the games closed.

[@Maidenstear]

I was only active on Facebook during my time in college. I played a few Facebook games here and there, but I had to completely block a classmate of mine because she was sending me game requests from the Facebooks Sims game at least three times a day. Every day.

[@Omegapork]

I feel like the "mobile game" tier stuff on the Quest might be problematic when it comes to VR's image. When Facebook rebranded what was left of Oculus into their own VR subsidiary; they started heavily incentivizing devs to publish their games exclusively on the Quest Store. It worked, and more games than ever are being developed for the quest. Facebook making VR development and VR experiences more readily available *IS* a good thing, but you've got to take the good with the bad. Here's what concerns me: 1. Now that almost every new VR game is being made for the quest, the previously pretty strong PC-Based VR game development cycle has sorta ground to a halt. I find that very few new games really push the boundaries, since most are being purpose built for the more limited hardware that the Quest offers. I'm worried it's going to make everyday users think VR has less to offer than it really does. (See Billiam in this very video. He seemed pretty "whelmed" with what he played, but I imagine something like Half Life Alyx would make a much better first impression). 2. With all of the developer incentives and monetization options, I think it's clear that Facebook is cultivating a "mobile phone app store" feel for their platform. And why wouldn't they? It's been proven time and time again that this sort of strategy makes absolute bank. Unfortunately, this also means it will be full of high-volume, low quality, absurdly monetized garbage that will cheapen VR's image. Thankfully there are a lot of absolutely incredible games on the Quest 2 to compensate, and it's not like Steam doesn't also suffer from the same thing.

[@rougeblackborn]

Unexpected pro of being a socially anxious teen: never got into the Farmville spam because I didn't want to annoy anybody. Success?

[@loveofchaos]

oh, oh no this video just unearthed memories of me playing mob wars. I remember it all now.

[@kylespevak6781]

So Farmville started the whole "the game IS WAITING"

[@haroldthaf]

Some Board Members NEED that new, slightly bigger yatch... So the company has to triplicate them' revenues for the next fiscal year. ASAP.

[@BubbleChumpkins]

FYI the best way to play the quest is as a pc VR headset, which is actually what a substantial portion of quest users actually use it as (you can reference the steam VR population reports to see). VR is alot further along than you may know. Outside of a small handful of games the quest has to offer almost all of it are bad mobile games or sad ports. But pc VR is getting wackier and wackier by the week! If you have the desire to delve deeper into it you do need gaming pc but honestly you don't need the craziest one to pull of VR pc gaming, it is absolutely worth it. (motion sickness is the biggest barrier of entry for a lot though)

[@PeepwoodTV]

wp on not having RAID being the sponsor after that early rant on facebook games

[@diegopansini3152]

Farmville was such a craze here in Rio, it was the main reason I started using Facebook in the first place. Then came a cycle of addictive Facebook games, my favorite one being the underrated Avengers Alliance But I can not deny that these games started a new kind of evil. Pay-to-play mobile games are a blight on this Earth