Facecheck Episode 20 - Griffin CVMAX Leak | Bjergsen PART OWNER of TSM?

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[@IWDominatelol]

04:26 TSM Re-signing Bjergsen | TSM Social Media cringe 20:30 Worlds Group Stage Analysis 21:30 Group A 58:26 Group B 01:09:00 Group C 01:41:24 Group D 02:08:50 Facecheck's Group Stage Predictions 02:17:41 Griffin CVMAX Leak

[@elucas51]

02:35:45 Dgon hits the Hail Mary pass from last week

[@caseybarker8]

It's crazy how much I hate Dom's stream but how much I enjoy his commentary on the game. He's always great on this show and as a guest spot on other shows.

[@caseybarker8]

I understand riots hesitation to put him on analyst desks, but few have better takes on p/b , team comps, and jungle theory.

[@vonwaq]

C B he doesnt enjoy playing the game so it translates onto his stream but he loves talking about the game

[@BradleyArdis]

he also sings along to his music on stream which is super annoying, other that that his stream is great

[@aeowinh]

I mean he clearly hate to play the game, but he loves competitive.

[@StrigWilson]

@@vonwaq season 9 baby

[@Snapple1515]

First 3 minutes and I can see dom slowly getting triggered by locos response lol

[@cupcakecula321]

Impressive seeing Cody Sun going to worlds 3 times in a row in 3 different teams, but also funny seeing him facing FNC 3 times in a row at worlds.

[@travisallday4233]

Dom talking about Nuclear is making me die so funny

[@liamstanley6719]

Yeah saying fuck that guy he sucks is so hilarious. I don't get why Dom can't trash his skill without saying fuck him lol.

[@ziiac]

Dom: "You lost your game cause your adc is lwx but on crack" lmaooo 😂

[@JcoopinNeWYork]

Dom is on crack

[@darkjackl999]

@@JcoopinNeWYork exactly, he knows a fellow crackhead when he sees them

[@omargutierrez8840]

So when they were talking about blabber, none of them talked about what nisqy says in interviews about blabber. Nisqy said that svenskaren usually has good comms and sets stuff up while blabber is more gung ho.

[@ojeske]

I'm curious about their opinions on preseason. Those changer with elemental rifts seems huge to me. Would like to hear their thoughts

[@LodgicalThoughts]

Facecheck episode about preseason and the new games riot is making? i think yes pls

[@jerrychamness6275]

Guarantee they do that next week my friend. End of groups + preseason + riot future announcements 2-3 hr extravaganza. Strap in and grab some popcorn.

[@6666Imperator]

the changes are huge but so were Preseasons before too. But it will be the same as always: People will complain that something changed, then they will play it, learn whats good and we will have a certain meta which most teams play :D

[@hazzsin3579]

Finally, thank you Dom for exposing Loco's extreme bias. Faker goes 9/0/8 and he talks about Faker's "mechanical mistakes" in his VOD. Meanwhile Loco's rank #1 Jankos ints 2 games and Loco is like "oh, he gets a pass, its fine, they'll turn it on for later".

[@hawaiin420]

also gotta like how he wanted to argue about it without seeing the game

[@maddewkey]

Loco is so annoying

[@fnfal6286]

and his bias towards svenskeren. i am on doms side on blaber. blaber played good and svenskeren looked weak.

[@kazumayamagishi7436]

at what specific time did he said this?

[@KleinpeterHank]

When did Dom call out Loco

[@joaquinchua3348]

WHERE is our host when he wants to be, Zirene?

[@Rayon811]

Prob overslept

[@Glozinos]

Just stopping by to laugh at the Splyce prediction 😂 Still my no.1 League podcast tho.

[@martymcfly88mph35]

Thank you Dom for calling out the C9 drafts!! Putting sneaky on a mage when hes never been good on them... and Nisqy on trist. That was so awful. Reapered is trying to go 300 IQ which the team isnt made for that.

[@tonypeluso8418]

Yea its 300 iq for inting. I love sneaky he really has been one of thee most consistent western adcs of all time. But putting him on mages is just not a recipe to win anything. The problem with the marksmen role is they were trained for only 10 champions ever with near no diversity. Now these old school ads can't play mages. Look at doublelift and sneaky, rekkles and uzi. They are all hard ads that have almost never had success on mages. If anything sub sneaky for deftly and keep sven starting. If c9 sticks to what they have been doing they will go 2-4 and not pass groups if they have to win with that style even putting lycoris on mages would legit be better then sneaky

[@pokemonsterable]

@@tonypeluso8418 It'a actually really interesting, Sneaky played relatively well on the mages, not cassio though, but the bigger issue was just they didn't know how to play around the picks as a whole team, they clearly looked lost in mid-late game.

[@martymcfly88mph35]

@@pokemonsterable he would play better on an adc and nisqy better on a mage than marksman. You know, put them on champs they have 4000+ games on.

[@pokemonsterable]

@@martymcfly88mph35 I agree that they would be better on what they are used to, especially nisqy on trist, he looked bad on it.

[@silvervelvet8893]

@@pokemonsterable they always look like that with Blaber. They need Svenskeren to make their mid and late game work. Too bad Repeared has pulled a 100t, benching their star player to throw their chance at Worlds.

[@vizariii6645]

Finally! i need my weekly dose of the god, DOM, to keep being the Dom in my relationship. ... Otherwise she comes with the strap-on.

[@EGToasty]

14:00 is the most sense loco has ever made LOL

[@szymciupol]

Cleanse Quinn (one run ignite) was run quite a few times already this season as recently as playins. And the way she scales you dont need it one because her r gives her the map mobility but more importantly because in pro she is mainly a safe splitpusher who with cleanse outsales any meta bruiser specifically renrkton on sidrlane. Just give a look at mega vs hka game from plains. It's was basically Quinn pushes, procs r so she can't get caught and rene can't tp away or he loses inhib. And if he gets close he gets hit with botrk and gets slammed in trade. So yes Quinn seems to be the only toplamer who can go tpless in pro as far as I'm concerned the data is there to support it.

[@liamstanley6719]

Renekton with ghost can win that matchup

[@szymciupol]

@@liamstanley6719 Possibly but rene with ghost is not viable in pro and the point was about quinn in worlds not in soloq. Because in soloq ghost flash is I'm pretty sure the best summs for rene in most elos, but in pro he has to take tp in top and its better than ignite and ghost in midlane as well.

[@liamstanley6719]

@@szymciupol very true. There's a chance it could work but it's not optimal in pro and not desired when there are other champs that can stand up to Quinn without needing ghost. I am renekton otp I go tp flash and I do fine into Quinn's most of the time in diamond 4. Quinn has the advantage but it's not unwinnable for renekton. If renekton activates W, when Quinn does the bounce off ability renekton W will stun her and that gives an opportunity to renekton E onto her and win an all in. Most people who play renekton don't know that interaction tho so they get dumpstered

[@liamstanley6719]

However if the Quinn auto spaces perfectly there is not much renekton can do. As the renekton you are somewhat reliant on a misplay by the quinn

[@Dildonion]

Everyone knows ocelot doesn’t pay people perks is working pro bono. I am also so tired of seeing NA get shit on by Garen yumi just ban yumi. More importantly though Riot needs to wake the fuck up and make adcs relevant again this is disgusting. Lower the gold cost of adc items relook at the kits of adcs for example it was always a huge mistake removing hurricane from caits kit while it still works with twitch jinx Kalista etc. It makes no sense they randomly decide hurricane won’t work with cait anymore. They keep buffing her and she’s still garbage and this applies to all crit adcs minus Xayah who is only meta cuz of Rakan . Only ability focused adcs are meta this whole year ez Kaisai Lucian. Fix your game already. Maybe consider making turrets tankier by 50% and marksman get a special buff that increases the damage they do to turrets by 10% and make it so support items don’t stack so you can have only 1 on the rift. Get marksman back in the adc role where they belong.

[@TheGarouKami]

The griffin situation really upsets me, I want C9 to make it out of groups purely so griffin can take all the shit coming their way for doing CVMax so wrong

[@Geralt546]

Let's punish players for something they had no real influence on - in their first proper international competition at that... (keep in mind they have a pretty young roster and they were already referred as chokers by many people) What are you 7? Or are you just plain stupid?

[@lifelesslife2651]

@@Geralt546 but its not about punishing the players though its about showing the audience that is watching the drama and the management that cvmax was a major part of the team and kicking him was a mistake? why would you assume its punishing the players? are you stupid? he says he hopes they would lose, how would that be punishing the players when he's just rooting for a loss. You're being completely braindead by saying it as if he is able to sway the outcome of the match and because he says griffin are going to lose that they will do so and if they do lose; its all because the players failed themselves and lost against the opposing team not because of what he said so what's you're point? that you can't hope a team would lose? especially for a reason where it seems they have upper management that abuse their power and players that wouldn't stand up for their coach after what the coach has done.

[@Geralt546]

@@lifelesslife2651 My only assumption was that he wanted to punish the org for stupid decisions. If he did that and it was his reasoning for rooting against GRF then I call him a stupid child. 1. Orgs mostly don't give 2 fucks about results. 2. Griffin players losing in this group will get much more shit from fans both at home and the global LCK fans than C9 players. 3. We actually don't know shit about the situation - we can always assume things but that doesn't make them facts. 4. From what we know CvMax wasn't an angel and aside from questionable drafts he did struggle with managing his players (being strick and abusive even - Doran crying on stage) - why is everyone on his side suddenly? 5. Griffin players are quite young so eventual failure would be more harsh on them than C9 especially when nearly everyone thinks of them as chokers. (if they lose then they didn't deserve to go further in tournament - everything is fine for me, but hoping that they lose because of some shit their org did - wtf is wrong with you?) If anyone thinks that GRF not advancing to quarters would punish the org and not the players - you're naive and stupid.

[@Henning32231]

griffin already fired cho and publicly announced that cvmax was a big part of their sucess.Dont worry about him

[@namfingerstyle8403]

Lol. they got 5-1 and won tie-break.

[@vinicinfodexota5083]

all i know is UZI is playing out of his mind once again IMO, SKT G2 and RNG looks the best so far

[@mithenmedina540]

Literally nobody asked you

[@Hein.-]

@@mithenmedina540 yikes

[@vinicinfodexota5083]

@@mithenmedina540 bruh moment of the month, congratulations!!

[@bluetea1863]

Damn you really got shit on for no reason, its ok though. Dont die

[@Lillith_sv]

yep uzi sure played out of his mind vs Clid's gragas never ulting the combos

[@Saintzel]

Dom is really triggered about the tsm announcement.

[@RumandCocaine]

It was cringe tho

[@ArJayDM]

Yo i watched it while i was making totinos pizza rolls and i wasnt watching the video so it sounded real and it wasnt cringe. The video was cringe tho lmao

[@imaugment1066]

@@RumandCocaine It really wasn't.

[@AerrihnStreams]

1:28:21 was this the game where Effort apologised in voice comms at the end of the game?

[@corieg4543]

Dom called it how he saw it, 3 minutes in spitting the truth.

[@taxx6377]

corie g bullshit😂 The whole „they were serious the whole time“ that he „saw“ is straight up a lie to valid his point cause dumb people like you belive everything what someone on a screen says. What you can see in the G2 voicecomms, they ARE laughing and trolling the whole time. Even taunted cause of the Micky int.

[@imaugment1066]

Dom proving he's a literal moron. Cool.

[@pootie3181]

idk how loco was a coach. conversation with him is legit like talking to a brick wall

[@princeofgreece9054]

Pootie I can’t stand loco, listening to that idiot lisp his way through this show is insane to me. He offers literally nothing to this show.

[@tucosalamancc]

Prince Of Greece so true lmao

[@benrichardson7836]

He is one of those guys that thinks he is way smarter than he actually is

[@bv8532]

Agreed. What about dom who is so full of himself and thinks that everyone is shit. But even all those shit players on their worse day they would still play 1000 times better than you on ur best day! Stupid dom holy moly

[@qwertzu1195]

Justice for cvM!!

[@sauceboi2031]

It saddens me so fucking much to hear this cvmax story, Griffin could be one of the best teams right now if not for a shitty CEO

[@lostclips7078]

@@sauceboi2031 It's clearly power going to his head, like he must feel as though he worked really hard to get the business and the org ready to win. The issue is he probably wanted more impact in the way the team is developed and coached after SKT beat them. Maybe that just wasn't how cvMax wanted it and it must have been justified if Cho didn't know anything about the game? I don't think it's as black and white as we have only heard cvMax's side but I feel from what we've seen Cho is guilty of a lot of things. Mostly being a douche and some unethical.

[@__mob99]

grf ceo pulling out a korean drama shit

[@rubicon24]

Chovy had 1 outplay against Caps killing him 1v2 ONCE the entire game and suddenly Caps played poorly? Was he even watching the match? Caps dealt the most damage while dying only once.

[@silvervelvet8893]

Caps has some of the highest KP, KDA and damage, and is so good at being where he needs to be to help his sidelanes. Saying he is not looking good is completely absurd, when he has played as pretty much the single best mid laner in the tournament so far. It just isn't as flashy as Faker, because Caps and his team isn't constantly throwing and played like monkeys, so Caps gets hard downplayed. Bias probably helps too, a lot of people are still salty that Caps had Fakers number at MSI.

[@aspiwri664]

Plus the matchup is heavily irelia favored.

[@magill05]

Plus it was mostly jankos fault the bank failed. Whiffing his cc.

[@technicalleon]

I like Caps, especially back when he was in Fnatic. Caps is very good, but you can't deny that there are games where he ints hard. We haven't seen it yet this Worlds, but G2 can't let Craps out if they want to win Worlds.

[@iulianjercan9787]

I guess having map awareness, clutch tps and ulties, carrying G2 while Wunder, Jankos and Miky were gettint the int out of them, having 35% damage as Orianna in a team with 3 carries means playing bad. From the most hyped up player, to now casters and community shitting on him even when he hard carries because the narrative shifted is so fucking insane. What a shame. When he was styiling at MSI against fucking Faker, or the Akali play vs Teddy and Mata as Xayah&Rakan where he fucking tags them to the tier2 mid and kills both of them, when he got penta, when he smurfed on Ryze, no one was praising him anymore. Nowadays if he doesn't outplay constantly he's getting shit on by the community. It blows my mind.

[@LodgicalThoughts]

i must be drinking the reapered kool-aid..... i'm starting to think that deftly is a better option for c9 o.O

[@narhwallord6985]

I'm starting to think that Sven is a better option for C9 than Blaber.

[@SouthSide41209]

@@narhwallord6985 isn't sven sick? Like physically ill

[@jorgetrejos1973]

yea ur drinking that shit still man

[@Aaron.Church.Solomon]

Hey. Trying to do this type of production. How do you setup the video sources? NDI? How do you not have the Skype watermark in each screen? Please and thank you!

[@Erik-zu3nq]

Cant tell you anything about the video sources. But they are using Discord for the call and the Cam.

[@williamhobbs4202]

Aaron Solomon stop using Skype, discord is way better mate

[@Aaron.Church.Solomon]

@@williamhobbs4202 so then how to separate the different screens? Window capture? How do they get all 4 "webcams" captured and put on the same scene on OBS?

[@Aaron.Church.Solomon]

@@Erik-zu3nq I thought the practice was Discord for the call and skype for the cam

[@miguiconde]

You can set discord so that it sends camera output as well, and then one person captures different scenes on obs with the parts of the screen where the videos are showing and set the background as the slide they use on the topic. You can read about it in discord guides

[@philipkay8372]

Rox Tigers tho they leveled up once hojin retired and peanut joined

[@Speedlover77]

They were so fucking good !

[@robertgoldman4572]

The guy who runs TSM twitter is the RA at my university lol

[@nguyentri3608]

Lmao

[@jahil9778]

What is RA?

[@Olzme]

@@jahil9778 Resident assistant/adviser or research assistant. I think he means the former though.

[@LNadroJ]

Why is Loco fanboying so hard over G2. I’m not taking any credit away from the team but I enjoy watching this show for the analytics, not Locos biased opinion that G2 is number one and there aren’t any other contenders. Props to Dom for complementing and criticizing all teams fairly. Keep up the good work!

[@dylanbrown92]

yall should talk about the new "summoners rift"

[@boofy2592]

Doms flame on sword was pog

[@michaelchoi2061]

Sword tattled onto the CEO, asking why he can't play. Doran, according to cvMax, was supposed to be the sub and the backup to Sword losing his mentality. Also, Kanavi was one of those junglers that was on par, maybe even better, than Tarzan, but that guy sold him by accusing him for trying to make secret deals with other teams. During a call, cvMax and Kanavi talked, and Kanavi LITERALLY said he wanted to quit being a pro.

[@shinysword7752]

loco's hair cut is like he went to get a haircut and told his barber to "just fuck shit up"

[@jadinaneptune6585]

Dom praising Blabber made me really happy. Im not a jungle main, but i agree, he played super well! As a C9 fan I hate to see Blabber or Sven go, but I wish both of them the best of luck because Blabber deserves an LCS spot too!

[@asspounderify]

6:36 I mean TSM are pretty troll now. didnt make it to worlds back to back lol

[@TheSpencer1000]

@IWDominate as for locos point about bjergs decision not having a lot of business sense, thats half true. If he wanted the most money from that contract then thats probably true, but by signing with TSM early he is now given the position to help rebuild and select his own roster and if your looking to compete and be the best you can be thats a great position to be in. You said it would be best to wait to get on better teams and find better team mates, but thats not exactly true. Having the ability to hand select your team mates is better then joining a team with pre selected people imo. If bjerg waited until later to join TSM trying to squeeze out more it wouldnt be involved in that process. Also theirs the entire argument that getting paid as much as possible as a player can technically decrease your value long term. Short giant contracts are great short term, but when you take a ton of your teams capitol you lessen the amount your teammates can earn so can lessen the amount of options and skill of new team members your team grabs. I watch a lot of football and I know a great example is on the New England Patriots. Tom Brady has been one of if not the best QBs in the NFL for ages, but he isnt the highest paid. Also a lot of VERY talented players often want to go to the patriots at decreased pay because they know that they are a very steady team with a great chance at winning the super bowl. Not only is that something many competitive people just want to achieve, being the greatest team, but also after winning something that huge and having a great showing on one of the most dominate teams with great team mates will often INCREASE your value for your following contracts. So you take a pay cut up front, win a super bowl, and then take a booming contract for just about any other team you want.

[@wyattleeser9072]

Are you stupid? Like a genuinely think, every one of your arguments is so unintelligent. They can keep getting new players for months after worlds to rebuild. Also capital in LCS is way different than nfl

[@silvervelvet8893]

This all assumes that Bjergsen manages to get success again. Sure, if he can poach tye majority of TL, maybe, but otherwise I can't really see what players they will grab that can help them win the LCS. They had the best botlane in EU, and they used them horribly bad, they had a solid toplaner who carried tons of games, and I dont trust them to use *any* jungler properly, no matter who it is. Like, what do they improve here? And who do they get that wont just stay on their former team?

[@amadeux5471]

@@silvervelvet8893 Exactly. I don't get this rebuilding arguement tbh. Bjerg is a top tier mid in NA and all his pro years on TSM. You'd think that he'd have a voice over that already. Plus if it that were really the case, Bjerg would obviously want a team that can compete which benefits both parties so why would TSM decline or atleast consider it, realistically speaking.

[@jonathansingh5409]

Spencer White bjerg could still say that he wants x and x players in order to resign, almost like kawhi going to clippers only if they land paul george, while at the same time looking at his other options, also TSM no longer has the luxury of being the #1 choice for top players who look to join a team seeing as though they have failed to win a championship in 2yrs, have only made 1 final in this 2yrs which was their only good split, not to mention all the behind the scenes issues

[@amadeux5471]

@@jonathansingh5409 The kawhi analogy was actually a good one especially on my example prior lmao

[@Joshling96]

Dom practicing his soft bongo drum solo

[@modded276]

wait dgon from Honduras

[@Geddn]

In hindsight as an EU fan im happy u were wrong about SPY and FNC and should be said that Dom was right in regards to G2. Was a good episode

[@arch1q892]

after g2 vs grf ?

[@romkoppel5302]

Dom is so clearly the big daddy.

[@imaugment1066]

the big downy*

[@6666Imperator]

yes being sick makes a difference. Hell even I as a Plat noob play worse when I have a headache/bodyache because it pulls away concentration and makes your brain reactions slower. On the highest level of competitive play that should definitely play a role. It doesn't mean that you can't play at all but when someone else is playing at 100% you probably play at 80-90% max. However that doesn't mean that they can just say afterwars "oh we were sick so of course we lose" no thats part of are you willing to bite your way through even against all hurdles. You don't need to say anything when you see Bwipo before the game with the mask on and then they didn't say it but they were ASKED by Laure "hey I heard you are sick, so whats up?" and of course they answer that then. So they never used it (from what I saw and heard) as an excuse anyways. I believe that FNC decided to play like that because they feel that ADCs are not the best option. They say that already since spring split I believe.

[@bantay21]

Who do you think is worse? Lwx or Nuclear?

[@sxyx3403]

Nuclear is worse overall but lwx ints way harder

[@mithenmedina540]

Dgon, Is that a Honduran tShirt?

[@aaronmclaughlin6929]

I really like Doms analysis of G2 at the start. it's bullshit how the casters say "oh jankos/mikyx had a bad game but it dosen't matter coz the rest of them are so good". NO!!! they're playing Griffin and C9 who cant punish mistakes and aren't top teams. They cant play like that in bo5's against top teams

[@alexmolina225]

Had no idea liquid loco was an owner

[@woodyshooter]

I disagree with G2 being super try hard against HKA. They were definitely playing loose with engaging everytime without thinking about the enemy jungler. At one point they clearly turned a switch and went try hard and the int instantly stopped

[@ooga69booga]

Some of Dom's opinions are so random and other guys are too beta to prove him wrong. G2 vs HKA was definetly a game were G2 tried to finish up quickly to be the fastest game again and style on them. Thats why they were playing loose. And they played serious when they failed to snowball and HKA gaining lead.

[@aspiwri664]

And it goes to show by tha manner in which they won eventually.Superior macro and in 5 minutes,boom,game was actually over.

[@erlen5846]

Perkz went deathless on yasuo, caps/wunder/perkz had sooo much gold the game was absolutely donezo and G2 styled on them once baron spawned I don't see what doms point on Miky is but I'm just a delusional EU fan I guess

[@ramsrinivasmurthy8843]

What happened to Zirene?

[@XodiLoL]

did you ever find out what happened ?

[@PhionYu]

I guess Dom hasn't seen Skt game on Quinn

[@poeskey]

It's 2am, and this episode is almost 3 hours.... I'm ready.

[@Markosmirel32]

He may not have been MVP, but the 94 season where the Bulls were led by Scottie, he was taken out during the literal clutch. Sometimes it is the best decision for the team.

[@haklbarry2]

Wondering what dom says about kobbes kaisas ultis. I really think kobbe plays soo fucking solid. Hes stepping up so much

[@BigMusicFan147]

Damn nothing about the Riot news. Unfortunate.

[@lostclips7078]

This is an eSports show? + it JUST got announced this probably got recorded or streamed before then.

[@xXDaLazyNinjaXx]

this was recorded earlier in the day before the riot news came out

[@firstlast5630]

Riot has had one game and 10 years and it still fucking sucks who gives a fuck about these retards trying a different game. Without a doubt they will all fail.

[@boofy2592]

First Last yikes

[@lostclips7078]

@@firstlast5630 Bad day?

[@mehmetcanozturk8576]

NA PREDICTIONS OMEGALUL

[@mValerianW]

Did anyone notice that Garen Yuumi and Sona Tham/ Taric lanes are pretty much gonna be dead in season 10 due to the support item change. Farming on support items will prohibit the gold generation. I guess we‘ll go back to regular adc/ apc and support lanes. I think this takes a lot of creativity out of the lane.

[@cupcakecula321]

2020 Worlds, hope they give us loser's bracket after groups.

[@valentingrimault446]

who cares about watching losers ?

[@TheBassUnleashed]

Dom called it. Blabber did what he could. I think sneaky should have been swapped before sven... Blabber only weaknesses is due to the fact that he hasn't played. If he gets a team. He'll get leveled up.

[@wendythemutt7208]

Insensitive of dom to comment on Sword’s looks-sword previously revealed that the lines on his neck are due to nuchal cord

[@vorbo01]

Who cares? What are you in the second grade? Grow up lol

[@LinkSmith-zb7rr]

“I politely disagree with the broadcast” lmfao loco actually came in with a good joke

[@1337awesomeness]

If bjerg has enough equity then he can be part of the over arcing decision making on the LoL side of the organization. If bjerg uses that to hand pick teamates, coaches and practice regimen the it makes 100% sense.

[@noacornelissen8328]

Bjergsen definitely doesn't have that high of a share, but he's already very involved in hand-picking teammates.

[@jakob8043]

Oh they did before the anniversary, noo

[@richardkxiong]

SKT's old play style was them training their team work. Skt's baiting other teams into copying their training routine.

[@alexandertrujillo3336]

You know aside from clutch, Dom is going pretty easy on NA teams rn

[@olibedsole1968]

What is purple side? I’ve only heard of blue and red. Is purple just referring to both sides?

[@MrJeo29]

Purple=red Old colour code

[@Doodoofart725]

In the early seasons, red side was actually purple.

[@younghuynh6930]

23:00

[@pixolako8121]

Finally

[@Stevedola11]

If they have him .01 % of TSM's evaluation of 250 million thats nothing but if its 1-2% hes getting 2.5-5mil as bonus.

[@holy_gg2506]

i agree with u guys but u guys not seeing the level of play from tl adc doublift like impact and doublelift is hard carrying in theses games and xmithe early game is a huge improve to tl early game but double and impact are doing very well rn just core and jensen especially need to step up

[@amadeux5471]

Impact is fantastic so far. Doublelift is stepping up. Xmithie is a bit shaky but has been solid overall. Jensen is struggling a bit imo especially against IG and ahq. Core is still okay, it's just that the performance he had shown so far has been so great that anything less than that is an underperformance. Even though I'm afraid of next week, I still believe that they can still make it out of groups.

[@LeadFarmerProduction]

Challenge: Count how many times Loco says "So fucking..." before saying something.

[@garrettpreszler7857]

I don't necessarily agree with the comments about TSM's initial Bjerg tweet. eSports social media accounts are all about meme'ing and trolling. All of them. I think it was meant to be troll.

[@michaellin6567]

My daily dose of crack was late and I was getting worried

[@Holyspecter]

1:04:19 WutFace

[@asspounderify]

Sneaky's Cassiopeia is too clean

[@younghuynh6930]

53:00

[@Sikidd206]

Blaber played fucking amazing. His elise is crazy. If team liquid had blaber it would be a game changer man. Xmithie is just bad man.

[@husenboriwala5110]

Best jungler in group D but go off I guess

[@Sikidd206]

@@husenboriwala5110 i mean group d doesnt have very good jglers so...

[@Sikidd206]

Im glad I heard the same thing from these guys. I made this comment before they talked about group d and they basically said what i said.

[@Legaliaaa]

wait you're actually delusional LMFAO.

[@scottbarnes18]

You guys didnt watch LCK then, quinn shits on renek and the cleanse deals with the dive potential. SKT played cleanse quinn top vs renek+tahliyah and absolutly smashed them (FYI this was the semi final vs DWG)

[@Rayon811]

Why is Ning not playin lool

[@konstantinmeyer2253]

The bjergsen thing does not matter, because he would have to stop being a player. You can not be an owner in the LCS as long as you are a player, so it means even less(for as long as he is playing the ownership deal is worthless)

[@Maztaimm]

Um.... No. Plenty of players have had ownership in the past while playing.

[@ooga69booga]

After c9 vs grf Irealized sona adc is not as OP if your player dont know how to play the game. Sneaky is just spamming skill and not dishing out damage and like his cassio he didnt have a good(even an okay) ult play.

[@jareddepew1467]

Spamming is dishing out dmg. And he couldn’t, because garen/yumi nullify sona and her poke.

[@ooga69booga]

Jared Depew yes garen can negate the Q dmg from sona which you cant control the target when garen front lines. But not the aa w/lich bane and the ult that can burst down other champs. I think taric would have been a better pick than tk. In teamfight taric can easly reset cooldowns from free hitting the garen.

[@mattyn6058]

I think grabbz saying that wunder and Jankos are being allowed to int and were giggling like schoolgirls about it during the game, so he can get their full focus when it matters instead of burning out a bit in groups and going full try hard (sejuani), might be an indicator that they were having a happy game for the most part, while caps and perkz carried. Love the pod but I just didn’t get the point on g2 actually being bad, at all.

[@BUMWRECK3R]

lets think about this a little... Echofox sold for over 30 million? and as far as we know as of late league of legends are the highest known prices for a team right now. and 2% of 30 million is 600000. not that it's something he would get right away. not to mention TSM is one of the best known brands in Esports. it's stupid how much hate was happening with what they think he got paid. sooooo much hate.

[@apiri_]

2:07:16

[@kllr66]

If a game is all about the blitz, maybe the german guy should play it?

[@shakurlife2]

Where's zirene?

[@omargutierrez8840]

Who cares. Hes hardly there and his input is usually agreeing with dom or loco. His input is good when hes talking about background riot stuff

[@Shrekbob88]

@@omargutierrez8840 Agreed! I think after the many times he has been "sick" it's clear he does not care about doing this show.

[@shakurlife2]

@@omargutierrez8840 that's not a bad thing tho, when it's just loco and Dom arguing it's endless so it's good to have a 3rd person to just side with one or add 3rd analysis. Dgon is a good mediator overall but not with in-depth game analysis

[@jonathansingh5409]

Shrekbob im pretty sure it’s been said that zirene has some sort of illness

[@lego4877]

Idk Man Chovy had 400 cs at 30 min

[@StrigWilson]

Need a new 4th guest...second time this guy aint shown..

[@AlMoStLeGeNdArY1]

Loco: why would bjergsen stay he could've gotten more on the open market...maybe that's why TSM gave him ownership in the brand. Also Griffin dumpsters g2 without cvmax guess he wasn't that important

[@jonbell71]

The more I listen to loco the more I think he’s on G2 pay role

[@felixibeler2723]

More like thorin dick. But I like it xD I think he's right on most of his g2 takes

[@Monotheist137]

As an LCK fan from Europe I am so pissed with Griffin scandal. They should beat g2 on paper.

[@joshuab4684]

sfsgr G2 are just better than GRF IMO

[@mehmetcanozturk8576]

Joshua Korean stomp just started man..

[@LodgicalThoughts]

2 things come to mind with the bjeg situation: 1: why the fuck are TSM re-signing him with equity whilst building a new facility? are they strapped for cash so badly? I couldn't believe so seeing they would need to finance a loan to build their facility. 2: I can't comprehend the equity decision if TSM plan to be a stable franchise in ALL esports (CS:GO, fortnite, Hearthstone etc). how is this fair on their franchise players in other esports? bjerg has potential gain in money markets that do not involve him. I'm just saying, its great for my boy bjerg, who deserves the world for sticking by TSM. but holy fuck. Regi has chimped out hardcore with this decision, maybe bjerg said he needs long term commitment from TSM to re-sign? it seems so weird.

[@Arizzo97]

Am i the only one who thinks that Loco would defend the hell out of TSM if they said that the players were sick

[@dog1783]

Dom actually spit straight knowledge this whole episode. I’m fucking impressed, he has a great mind for the game.

[@jareddepew1467]

What?! Lololol he talked out his ass this whole episode. Even as I’m typing this now, he just said how Blaber is better at Lee than Sven. False. He said G2 wasn’t trolling vs H2k, G2 support was spamming recall and emotes in front of H2k all game.

[@localhobo5362]

is it me or Dom has a better understanding of the game than Loco, witch is weird Loco used to be a coach.

[@ooga69booga]

Self opinion vs opinion made from interviewing pros and coaches.

[@ooga69booga]

Self opinion vs opinion made from interviewing pros,coaches and other lol analyst.

[@NutLump]

I didnt mind the obvious joke because TSM themselves are obvious jokes. lmaoxd

[@asspounderify]

yay TL barely beat AHQ because impact was popping off. meanwhile TL states " my team was inting" omegalewl

[@boofy2592]

asspounderify welll I think he just didn’t want to call Jensen and xsmithie our by name so he just said team

[@12InchesUnBuffed]

better to be more general about it than to say "well, Jensen,Core and, Xmithie were inting".

[@asspounderify]

@@boofy2592 xmithie had a game savinf smite and flashed to save dl at last teamfight. I think his lowkey shade was not appropriate considering how he played

[@anaficionado8621]

Did loco have a concussion or something? 1:31:10 he's really not making any sense, he is beyond all logic and reasoning. He thinks that its worse for SKT to do a 1-3-1 with baron with a splitpush comp??????

[@paoloreggiani4778]

An Aficionado loco reasoning would make sense if they weren’t playing Gragas, Ezreal and Thresh, one of the safest 3 you can have! Else, it is really easy for RNG to force on your 3 (with blitz and Zoe)

[@anaficionado8621]

@@paoloreggiani4778 The thing is though, Loco said multiple times that he was talking about this scenario with these exact champions. When Dgon tried to save Loco by saying that he was talking generically, Loco was saying with these exact champions. I'm saying that this comp is very good for 1-3-1ing and for that reason why even bring up hypothetical alternatives. It's like saying well lets just say SKT wouldn't have won if they only had 1 tp and didn't pick twisted fate, like there is no basis to bring up hypothetical alternatives when events play out because of specifics in this situation.

[@TonyHans99]

NA MALDING

[@isaiaheads6327]

Im pretty sure sneaky win traded with G2

[@Snootz86]

Just because Caps got solo killed once in the GRF game doesn't mean he ran it down Dom lol.. or that he had a bad game.. it was a great play by Chovy.. that's just one play.. what about the other 99% of the game? Caps fucked Tarzan up badly and slowed him down.. He also had the game winning ult with Mickyx which finished GRF for good.. Caps has had a very very good tournament so far.. His Zoe and Syndra was also wrecking..

[@rowandavis1388]

loco a G2 fanboy

[@AdRian-gz9lw]

Fck! That mean G2 will end like TSM now Q.Q?