Fixing the Kalos Elite Four

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@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Hey everyone! So how did I do? Did I miss anything? Maybe I added something you didn’t like! Let me know!
@TheAzulmagia
@TheAzulmagia 3 ай бұрын
To comment on something you said earlier in the video, I feel like a good baseline for team members is - Gym Leader 1: 2/3 Pokemon - Gym Leader 2 - 3: 3 Pokemon - Gym Leader 4 - 7: 4 Pokemon - Gym Leader 8/Elite Four: 5 Pokemon - Champion: 6 Pokemon That way, there's a steady sense of progression and intensity.
@DespianGrimmPaldea
@DespianGrimmPaldea 3 ай бұрын
@@TheAzulmagia Honestly Gym Leader 2 in some games can also go down the 2/3 Pokemon line, and 4 and 5 could also be in the boat of 3/4 Pokemon. Honestly depends on the Region and Levels of the individual Leader Teams. For Kalos, this is definitely the baseline that should be used.
@guiledonrickboncodin5984
@guiledonrickboncodin5984 3 ай бұрын
I just think that diantha's team is consist of pokedex color theme... Hawlucha(green), Tyrantrum(Red), Aurorus(Blue), Gourgeist(Brown), Goodra(Purple), and Gardevoir(White)
@DespianGrimmPaldea
@DespianGrimmPaldea 3 ай бұрын
@@guiledonrickboncodin5984 Not just different colors, they also have different highest BSTs. Hawlucha's is Speed, Tyrantrum is Attack, Aurorus is HP, Gourgeist is Defense, Goodra is Special Defense, and Gardevoir is Special Attack.
@gabrieljardim2793
@gabrieljardim2793 3 ай бұрын
I really like your changes, but for me, Siebold needs to have a mega Blastoise. The blastoise in anime was so iconic, that battle aganist Alain is so cool.
@quackster725
@quackster725 3 ай бұрын
We definitely need a Fixing the Evil Team video!
@TheAzulmagia
@TheAzulmagia 3 ай бұрын
A good start is not giving everyone a million Rattata and Zubat...
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Troooo, I do like how evil teams have a set amount of mons they use
@aquasis995
@aquasis995 3 ай бұрын
I thought it was rlly cool how Lysandre was visually designed to have Male Pyroar, but his true ace is Mega Gyrados, because he’s disconnected with his entire organization. Too bad it’s the first victim on the altar of your Xerneas.
@HelloMe86976
@HelloMe86976 3 ай бұрын
FRFR. I mean look at gen 3 evil team. Oh yeah let's give everyone a Zubat,A poochy and a numel or carrvanha copy paste
@mitchelltague3674
@mitchelltague3674 3 ай бұрын
@@OKreations subbed for support for the evil team idea
@SaltinemyBeloved
@SaltinemyBeloved 3 ай бұрын
Kalos not giving all the elite 4 members 5-6 pokemon and a mega evo is a crime imo.
@c0mpu73rguy
@c0mpu73rguy 3 ай бұрын
Nah, it’s just Kalos being Kalos…
@beckhampang191
@beckhampang191 3 ай бұрын
Diantha not having a gen 6 mon mega is also a crime. Like... Literally florges white is a perfect fit for Diantha
@c0mpu73rguy
@c0mpu73rguy 3 ай бұрын
@@beckhampang191 But only the crystal mon thing got a mega among the new gen 6 mons. Florge doesn't have one.
@beckhampang191
@beckhampang191 3 ай бұрын
@@c0mpu73rguy yes that's what I said. Florges should've gotten a mega and been the mega for Diantha.
@c0mpu73rguy
@c0mpu73rguy 3 ай бұрын
@@beckhampang191 Megas were made to put older pokemon up to speed with more recent mons. It was obvious it was not made for them.
@SmashBrosAssemble
@SmashBrosAssemble 3 ай бұрын
Simple fixes; Give them bigger teams Give them Mega Evolution
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@billynguyen267
@billynguyen267 3 ай бұрын
So I have a few issues with the Diantha team, it just mostly the composition and concept. So her team is based on the colors, stats (because each of her Pokémon have different highest stat and color) and the most important concept in my opinion, is character roles Hawlucha is green, represent the prince/hero, and speed stat Tyrantrum is red, represent the king and attack stat Aurorus is blue, represent the queen and the hp stat Gourgeist is the brown,represent the witch and defenses stat Goodra is purple, represent the dragon and sp defense stat And the Gardevoir is white, represent the princess and sp attack stat. So her team is actually really unique and full of concept and not random at all
@billynguyen267
@billynguyen267 3 ай бұрын
So if I change her team then I would stick to one of the three concept, the stat one is Hard to do so I’ll cross that out, the color one is also really hard especially when she will have to overlap Pokémon with other trainer or use weak Pokémon, so I’ll build her team on the roles concept So her team will be: -Gourgeist: the witch -Florges: the queen Nidoking: the king ( she really need this one for her steel and fairy coverage) -Pangoro: the hero/prince ( in the Pokédex it says it’s a very protective Pokémon so it can fit the role pretty well, and it can be her body guard also help her with ice and ghost weakness) -Goodra: the dragon -Gardevoir: the princess
@arrowblade_1238
@arrowblade_1238 3 ай бұрын
Dianthia’s team is not meant to be entirely in opposition to lysandres. Hers is supposed represent her as an actress, along with some beauty related stuff.
@Pit_Icarus
@Pit_Icarus 3 ай бұрын
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but Diantha’s team is meant to represent different types of movie genres; Hawlucha is meant to represent action movies, the fossil Pokémon are meant to represent sci-fi, Gourgeist is meant to represent horror, Goodra is meant to represent fantasy, and Gardevoir is meant to represent Diantha herself as an actress.
@DespianGrimmPaldea
@DespianGrimmPaldea 3 ай бұрын
Huh.... I honestly did not realize that fact, and if I did, I honestly forgot that it was a tertiary theme with her team.
@KinHades
@KinHades 3 ай бұрын
I thought her team represents an fairy tale Hawlucha-Prince Fossils-King and Queen Goodra-Dragon Gourgeist-Witch Gardevoir-Princess
@kyreeturner5083
@kyreeturner5083 3 ай бұрын
​@@KinHades You are correct.
@DespianGrimmPaldea
@DespianGrimmPaldea 3 ай бұрын
@@KinHades Seems like there’s more themes in this team than I imagined.
@arundeep4u
@arundeep4u 3 ай бұрын
@@KinHadesgreat one. But why are the king and queen a fossil? 😂
@Leon-te2jx
@Leon-te2jx 3 ай бұрын
Imo Malva should give Solar Beam to Pyroar instead of Wild Charge. If she’s setting up sun, it’ll only be one turn anyway.
@volcanbolt12
@volcanbolt12 3 ай бұрын
But, at that point, better give it to Mega Houndoom no? 🤨
@Leon-te2jx
@Leon-te2jx 3 ай бұрын
@@volcanbolt12why not both?
@volcanbolt12
@volcanbolt12 3 ай бұрын
@@Leon-te2jx Simply for moveset variety; besides, Mega Houndoom benefits it more due to Solar Power
@Leon-te2jx
@Leon-te2jx 3 ай бұрын
@@volcanbolt12 But both Mega Houndoom and Pyroar have better special attack, and the electric moves are there to deal with water types. Solar Beam does the same but works off their better stat.
@volcanbolt12
@volcanbolt12 3 ай бұрын
@@Leon-te2jx That's true, but having both Wild Charge AND Solar Beam will cover the vast majority of Water types... including pokémon like Gyarados & Pelipper (which resist Grass) and Quagsire & Whiscash (which are immune to Electric); and since Wild Charge > Thunder Fang, the choices seem pretty oblivious
@crimsontrickster6636
@crimsontrickster6636 3 ай бұрын
I can’t believe you wouldn’t have Wikstrom travel through time and space so he can get bug bite on his Scizor from the ORAS move tutor. Looking forward to fixing team Flare or rivals or moving onto next region
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
You right I should’ve done that. My b everyone! Thanks dood!
@Wolfman053a
@Wolfman053a Ай бұрын
@@crimsontrickster6636 ORAS apparently takes place either shortly after X and Y or concurrent with the events surrounding Lysandre’s attempt to resurrect King AZ’s machine and the resulting destruction of Geosenge Town…
@TheAzulmagia
@TheAzulmagia 3 ай бұрын
I know you said you were changing Lysandre's Mega, but I would still go with Blastoise as Siebold's Mega just to help distinguish from Lysandre and replace the Clawitzer with Lanturn. I just think Gyarados kinda fits the theme of Lysandre's character too much to drop, both from the whole "destructive rage that destroys everything" angle and the fact that Lysandre continually talks about how there are "chosen ones" in society that deserve to be praised, which fits the idea of the diamond in the rough Magikarp becoming a powerful "dragon".
@nickdentoom1173
@nickdentoom1173 3 ай бұрын
While this is true, i can see the reason as to not give Siebold a Mega Blastoise though, as it would feel a little unfair towards Drasna and Malva if Siebold gets the Mega Blastoise starter, but they don't get Zard X and Y. And i feel like if you do that, you need to replace Mega Gardevoir for Mega Venusaur on Diantha's team, in order to have all Mega Starters having some representation during the League. Here Mega Aggron was chosen as an option, but we also have Mega T-Tar as a solid replacement for Mega Gyarados or if you give Siebold Blastoise and Malva Zard Y, Mega Houndoom for Lysandre would be an option too.
@TheAzulmagia
@TheAzulmagia 3 ай бұрын
@@nickdentoom1173 One of the Kanto starters could go to the Rival, if you want representation there, and Sycamore could Mega the third one.
@Sam20309
@Sam20309 3 ай бұрын
it feels a bit weird having team FLAREs leader have a water type mega though. i think mega blaziken or aggron would fit much better
@nickdentoom1173
@nickdentoom1173 3 ай бұрын
@@Sam20309 Mega T-Tar would have been the best fit.
@TheAzulmagia
@TheAzulmagia 3 ай бұрын
@@Sam20309 I get what you mean, but I feel like team names are rarely indicative of what the team uses. Team Aqua and Magma only use one type tied to their name, Team Galactic doesn't only use space themed Pokémon, etc.
@anilbalram7768
@anilbalram7768 3 ай бұрын
If youre using Mega Houndoom, you should slap solarbeam on there because of the sun.
@codename618
@codename618 3 ай бұрын
So I won't lie... This league took me three tries on my first playthrough all those years ago. My first attempt, I was swept by Siebold's Dragon Dance Gyarados. My second attempt, I was swept by Diantha's Gardevoir because it had coverage for my entire team. 😶
@darkraiknight386
@darkraiknight386 3 ай бұрын
I would’ve just given Siebold the Mega Blastoise anyway, but alternatively, rather than nixing Lysandre’s altogether, you could make it a Shiny (like the anime version) to differentiate it from Siebold’s.
@johnwolfenden7599
@johnwolfenden7599 3 ай бұрын
I admit I was skeptical of the Dianthia changes but you nailed it thematically.
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Thanks dood!
@temporaryleadership
@temporaryleadership 3 ай бұрын
Two things: 1) phantom force can’t be exploited too much bc it hits through protect. Only if you have a normal type. 2) mega gardevoir might be better with hyper voice, yeah?
@Mistier
@Mistier 3 ай бұрын
Rip your comment got copied by a bot
@temporaryleadership
@temporaryleadership 3 ай бұрын
@@Mistier bruh
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 3 ай бұрын
Two words: mega evolutions
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Trooooo
@ewwitscullen9132
@ewwitscullen9132 3 ай бұрын
Seriously, even tho I love XY I was disappointed by the lack of mega evolution from pretty much every major trainer
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Yeahhhh exactly
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Hard agree
@KingChiggy
@KingChiggy 3 ай бұрын
To be fair, I would absolutely be okay with Seibold having Mega Blastoise just on the fact that in Gen 4 Flint had an Infernape.
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
That’s a fair point!
@Naito115
@Naito115 3 ай бұрын
And Gardenia had a Turtwig
@gordiemax
@gordiemax 3 ай бұрын
Mega Altaria being completely forgotten despite Drasna literally having an Altaria on her team hurts my heart. I also get that we’re only using X/Y megas but the Latis got a mention.
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Mega Altaria is only in ORAS! Latias/Latios were introduced in X and Y
@mint0012
@mint0012 3 ай бұрын
I personally wouldn't be so restrictive on ORAS move tutor moves since Lysandre's Gyarados uses Outrage and Iron Head already
@avrilrowland1913
@avrilrowland1913 3 ай бұрын
Another “fixing” video idea could be fixing all the rivals! Idk if that’s too many teams for 1 video, but i think it could be fun. Something I like about your videos is you don’t disregard the character’s personality. Since we usually get more character building from rivals but no specific type limitation, you’d only be limited to pokemon/strategies it feels like they would use based on their personalities. Cutesy, smart, underrated, quiet, etc. Could lead to fun character inspired competitive strategies, brainstorming how this type of character would approach a battle.
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
That would be super fun! I like that idea
@MidoriNatsume
@MidoriNatsume 3 ай бұрын
A couple of observations: 1) Please give Starmie and Noivern a real abilities. Natural Cure and Infiltrator are not oppressive but do something. 2) Sturdy and Brave Bird clash too much for me, if we need to stay in the limits of Gen 6, I would settle for Drill Peck. 3) I would mix together X/Y and ORAS, to open up more mega options and give Gardevoir Hyper Voice. Have you noticed I have a fixation on optimizing abilities? 😅 For the rest, it's a very well made video. It has some realistic changes that could had totally been there if X/Y wasn't a rushed production, and still allows for normal play styles to work. And I appreciate that your comment addressing is less mocking then a lot of other KZbinrs. I like videos that don't constantly insult me. 🙏🏻
@leonardofarias8843
@leonardofarias8843 3 ай бұрын
They could have added hidden abilities in a update
@nhjohnston
@nhjohnston 3 ай бұрын
Those are literally the best abilities for Starmie and noivern tho 😭 Illuminate literally does NOTHING in battle, and Starmies speed stat is too high for it to make good use of analytic, and even if you do move first it’ll be a K.O. On Starmie so it’s pointless. As for Noivern, what good does frisk do for an NPC? And telepathy is strictly for doubles. And as for skarmory, yeah brave bird + sturdy might not be the best set up but turn one will be set on breaking sturdy so it works as a final gambit move. Keen eye is just… not good and weak armor does skarmory no good because if it’s only gonna survive two turns at most with sturdy then it’s definitely only going to survive two turns with weak armor and its speed is so slow it won’t even get do something with a speed boost.
@alkis6391
@alkis6391 3 ай бұрын
You like abilities so much but forgot that Dragalge has adaptability and it should have it in the fight imo
@MidoriNatsume
@MidoriNatsume 3 ай бұрын
@@alkis6391 Thank you for pointing it out. 👍🏻
@damsdanieru
@damsdanieru 3 ай бұрын
I think fixing the Galar Gym Leaders would be a good one. Good vídeo!
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Hey I think so too! Thanks!
@artmoonsilva
@artmoonsilva 3 ай бұрын
I love the addition of Furfrou in Diantha's team! and would be super excited to see a "Fixing Evil Teams" video. A lot of them are such missed opportunites like how none of Flare's pokemon are "beautiful" or "fashionable".
@Davidsdaze
@Davidsdaze 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, he needs the first pokemon with a bustier: Mega Jynx
@beckhampang191
@beckhampang191 3 ай бұрын
Makes me realise how wasted furfrou wasnt their grunts base mons. Like imagine just getting to fight a bunch of different furfrou forms because they are rich kids and their pokemon has to be beautiful over being useful.
@murozaki3547
@murozaki3547 3 ай бұрын
00:19: Gyarados with Waterfall? Unfortunate doesn't even begin to describe...
@lutoooluis
@lutoooluis 3 ай бұрын
You just know whenever OKreaction drops the vids gonna bang
@jorgecharris532
@jorgecharris532 3 ай бұрын
I would definitely love a video only focused on the villains
@flavafee
@flavafee Ай бұрын
just beat the kalos elite four recently, so it's fun seeing you talk about them here! great anaylsis and fun picks!
@OKreations
@OKreations Ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@KingChiggy
@KingChiggy 3 ай бұрын
Part of me really wants to say Malamar should be on Lysandre's team and Diantha should get either Florges or a non Gen 6 pokemon to help round out her types.
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
That’s a good idea!
@ganoninthepit
@ganoninthepit 2 ай бұрын
You did an awesome job! Funny story, my friend was just talking about tweaking Diantha's team to be more thematic and challenging for her story, the other day. I think you did an excellent job with it! And yes, I'd love to see a video fixing the villains' teams!
@OKreations
@OKreations 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Appreciate the feedback! Sounds good
@UnwantedGhost1-anz25
@UnwantedGhost1-anz25 Ай бұрын
Game Freak should have prioritized Generation Six out of every other regions with the Mega Evolution forms. Imagine Lysander with a Mega Pyroar? 🤯
@Slazaryn
@Slazaryn 3 ай бұрын
I honestly thought Diantha's team was just really similar but weaker than Steven's team until someone in the comments said its based on movie genres
@robertmcbride6329
@robertmcbride6329 3 ай бұрын
Diantha sets the screens to early to actually protect her gardivoir, if gooy and dino swap places she is much more threatening
@nazeersadek6705
@nazeersadek6705 3 ай бұрын
Really fun video. With this video and the gym leader one you’ve shown that only small tweaks were needed to make these games a little more challenging. That being said I’d keep Hawlucha on her team since each member is supposed to represent different movie genres
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Ahhhhh that’s cool! Don’t know how I missed that
@nazeersadek6705
@nazeersadek6705 3 ай бұрын
@@OKreations it’s something that you can easily miss I didn’t even know about it until a couple of months ago lol
@DatNinjaCow03
@DatNinjaCow03 3 ай бұрын
I 1000% agree with Furfrou on the champion team, awesome pick! Love that dog
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much dood!
@nc5958
@nc5958 3 ай бұрын
Adding Houndoom, Lanturn, Skarmory, and Ampharos to the Kalos Elite Four teams is a great idea. However, I would keep Tyrantrum on Diantha's team and replace Druddigon with Kingdra. The only change I would make to Diantha's team is replacing Gourgeist with Malamar.
@neosparda4897
@neosparda4897 3 ай бұрын
You did a great job fixing the teams of the Gym Leaders and the Kalos Elite Four. I loved that you included Tyrantrum in Drasna's team, and Furfrou and Malamar in Diantha's team. In my case I would have included Garchomp in Drasna's team as its Mega Evolution. I understand that Drasna is originally from Sinnoh region and Garchomp would be a good reference to it, at least that's what I think.
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Ah nice idea! Thanks so much!
@luis_zuniga
@luis_zuniga 3 ай бұрын
Lysandre can still use a mega Gyarados if you give him the shiny one
@raniellesouza7814
@raniellesouza7814 3 ай бұрын
I liked your choices, I would only make a few changes: Siebold: Clawitzer - Pelipper - Kingdra - Barbaracle - Mega Blastoise Drasna: Dragalge - Altaria - Haxurus - Noivern - Mega Garchomp Diantha: Nidoqueen - Starmie - Florges (White Flower) - Gourgeist - Goodra - Mega Gardevoir
@Aegis19-f2t
@Aegis19-f2t 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video, I wish Torkoal had Drought and Starmie had Natural Cure, but still a great analysis!!!
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Great catches! I appreciate it a lot!
@utlukka950
@utlukka950 3 ай бұрын
Each of Diantha's pokemon do not share the same Pokedex color as each other, making her team a rainbow of colors. In addition, each of them has 1 of the 6 stats as their highest stat. They also represent different movie genres. Blue, HP = Aurorus (Sci-Fi) Red, Attack = Tyrantrum (also Sci-Fi) Brown, Defense = Gourgeist (Horror and Supernatural) White, Special Attack = Gardevoir (Romance) Purple, Special Defense = Goodra (Fantasy) Green, Speed = Hawlucha (Action)
@HyperGirl81
@HyperGirl81 3 ай бұрын
I remember having a really easy time with the Elite 4 in Pokemon X and Y all because I had a Slyveon in my party! While the fairy types are nice I felt very bad for Dragon type pokemon! They shouldn't have that big of a weakness against Fairy types so I felt bad when I steamrolled a dragon trainer. I am also surprised that you didn't give another Pokemon Volt Switch for Wikstrom so maybe Skarmory could use it instead of Whirlwind? Thank you for the video! I would love to see you fix Team Flare's Pokemon Teams they really need a make over!
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for the comment! I agree fairy goes hard into this e4, I like the whirlwind angle to help rack up spikes damage that klefki lays down earlier, but another volt switch could be fun somewhere, I’m not sure if skarmory gets it or not though
@joshuaturner4602
@joshuaturner4602 3 ай бұрын
As an actress I can see her using a luchador the connection being that they are both performance arts
@volcanbolt12
@volcanbolt12 3 ай бұрын
4:50 Nothing much to say about Malva: solid team, nice movesets, great Mega; approved! 😊 7:45 I think Starmie should have Natural Cure > Illuminate for... oblivious reasons. As for the Mega... I'm genuinely in between: on one hand, Mega Blastoise would feel redundant alongside Clawitzer (and would force Lanturn to go out); on the other one, Mega Gyarados fits way much better for Lysandre to take him away: if this change is really needed, than the only real alternative for him MUST be Mega Tyranitar, no debating! 😤 10:15 Having Brave Bird on a Sturdy Skarmory feels risky, even with Roost as recovery; better Drill Peck, at that point. Also, how could you forget Scizor's best Technician coverage in... Rock Smash?! 😂 13:50 Despite your reasoning, I still think Mega Garchomp shouldn't have been discarded so easily: after all, Drasna comes from Sinnoh, so it wouldn't have been absurd giving him to her as well! As for Tyrantrum, I don't have a problem about it (any other Dragon type left is the ace of another Dragon specialist), but I'd have swapped him with Goodra if Mega Garchomp was picked instead. The rest is fine... except Frisk on Noivern: Infiltrator is just better! 😅 19:10 The inclusion of Furfrou is actually pretty interesting, and it'd be funny if, every time you battle her, it'll be showed with a different haircut just to show her "gimmick" 😂 However, I can't say the same for Malamar: it's probably just me, but that Pokémon has "evil" written all over to include him in her or Olympia's team (at least in Story Mode); instead, I'd suggest Pangoro (or even Zoroark, but I wanted to stay within Gen 6) as his replacement: I guess I just find him cooler 😅 The rest is fine; approved! 😊 Overall, you did a great job, OKreations; can't wait for your next "fix" video. See ya!~ ❤💖
@kyaraz8891
@kyaraz8891 3 ай бұрын
I think the only change I would make to diantha’s fixed team would be changing moonblast for hyper voice to take advantage of pixilate
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Fair point!
@SwoleTommyPickles
@SwoleTommyPickles 3 ай бұрын
I’m on an alt, but from one content creator to another this is a really well designed thumbnail! May your channel continue to grow!
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much dood! I appreciate the feedback, always looking to improve
@erenercan1306
@erenercan1306 3 ай бұрын
The pathetic difficulty problem of gen 6 lies, in my opinion, in that the player recieves multible megas with legendary stats at the beginning of the midgame, then goes on to face mediocre opposition at best (well done fixing that in the gym leader video). Then at the endgame the player faces solid to even good oppostition. The problem is that their pokemon with legendary stats also have 70+ evs in every stat at this point. The player simply outstats everything with a 100 at worst but most of the times a 200-300 gap and kills everything. This problem is always present but by far the most apparent with a access to megas. By giving everyone deserving teams, like in this video, good job, the biggest part is done. I would always suggest giving all pokemon in every elite four 40 evs in all stats and their ace 50. All champion mons get 50 evs in all stats and the ace gets 60. It dissapoints me that the pokemon comp. has given trainers max competitive evs multible times but never thought to use evs in smaller amounts to modify stats however necessary or wanted. In battle a pokemon is its stats, typing, ability and moves. The 1st or 2nd biggest fourth of a pokemon in battle is almost never utilized or experimented with. I personally would love to see a elite four, where every mon gets max evs in health and half of max evs in both defences. Would make it feel a little like the anime, with pokemon surviving hits they have no buisness tanking and getting as many chances as possible to pull as much bullsht as possible on the player.
@hyrumkohler
@hyrumkohler 3 ай бұрын
16:26 I disagree on this. Team Flare's Xerosic had a Malamar as his ace, and it fit very well thematically that the cunning scientist behind the ultimate weapon (or at least being heavily involved) would have it
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think that was shown until the post game, but I guess it does still count, I could see your argument in how it fits better on an evil team tho!
@TheNyvo
@TheNyvo 3 ай бұрын
Not giving malva a drought torkoal physically hurts me
@rizi7832
@rizi7832 3 ай бұрын
for diantha gardevoir could have hyper voice, just to make use of its signature ability, lovely video by the way
@crazychristopher1989
@crazychristopher1989 3 ай бұрын
Main issues with the team building composition for Kalos. I can name several of them. First and foremost is Gardevoir's move set. Mega Gardevoir has the ability Pixilate and literally not one of its moves in the vanilla games is a Normal type move. Pixilate makes Normal moves become Fairy while in battle. So Echoed Voice or even Hyper Voice would've benefitted from the ability. Secondly is Siebold's team composition. Starmie has an ability that's actually useless in battle. So that should change to Natural Cure, which is one of its other vanilla abilities. Plus there's the Mega Blastoise debacle. Flint of the Sinnoh Elite Four has an Infernape and it's a starter Pokémon. Plus Mega Gyarados is more suited for Lysandre as it is technically considered a villainous Pokémon due to it being Dark typed. Next is Drasna. While Ampharos is a good idea, I feel that Charizard is more suited for her. It has a Dragon form in Mega Charizard X and gets Dragon moves by TM. Also, I personally feel that keeping Drasna's Druddigon on her team while giving it a Rocky Helmet to compliment its Rough Skin ability is a better move. Plus Noivern should have Infiltrator for an ability rather than Frisk as the latter checks for items on the opposing team and the player doesn't utilize Hold items most of the time. What about Malva? Giving her Houndoom is a good idea but adding Solar Beam to its move pool can benefit the Sunny Day and Solar Power strategy she might possibly have. Plus, giving her Torkoal the White Herb is a good idea. It reversed Curse's effect. For Diantha's team, she should have most of her team replaced with new Pokémon. Hawlucha should be replaced with Furfrou, Tyrantrum should be replaced with Malamar and Aurorus should be replaced with Lapras. I personally feel that other than Steven and maybe Lance due to the latter not having very many options in his own region as far as typing specialty goes, no Pokémon League Champion should have a single Fossil Pokémon in his or her team. Steven's father owns a building in Rustboro City that resurrects fossils. So Steven gets a pass on having Fossil Pokémon as options. You could also replace Gourgeist with Carbink as it represents a gemstone and it can be encountered in Reflection Cave. Other than that, very good video.
@wub-zero735
@wub-zero735 3 ай бұрын
I would love to see a mod with these changes as well as the gym leader changes! Maybe some slight tweaks to trainer battles to match the vibe, but these changes are a good mix of difficulty without being insanely hard, they’d make for a good way to get into the modding community!
@AdrianGarcia-ts1or
@AdrianGarcia-ts1or 3 ай бұрын
* Okcreations ramps up the kalos elite four * The highly overleveled kalos player: Proceeds to one-shoot every pokemon and sweep through their teams
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Can’t really design anything around overleveling😩
@havijgelol
@havijgelol 3 ай бұрын
all of these teams are a 10 outta 10! why hasn't this video gotten 1k likes yet?
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much dood!
@eat_itjusteat_it4214
@eat_itjusteat_it4214 3 ай бұрын
Seibold has always given me a hard time.
@grantdaily9662
@grantdaily9662 3 ай бұрын
That's mostly due from his team being the only competent one made. Like I was running through this game after Grant and then Seibold came in and stopped my E4 play
@TheAzulmagia
@TheAzulmagia 3 ай бұрын
Siebold cooked so hard with his team that GameFreak felt obligated to make him a chef.
@intergalactic92
@intergalactic92 Ай бұрын
Sue old is the only one that has ever given me trouble. If you let his Gyrados set up you are cooked.
@HaVoCbReNgEr
@HaVoCbReNgEr 3 ай бұрын
I'm glad that I wasn't the only one that was hung up on her being an former flare admin😂😂
@codytoeung5089
@codytoeung5089 3 ай бұрын
I believe Diantha’s team is meant to represent each Pokémon stat, as well as different movie genres. But her new team I feel could still fit the actor thing as well. Furfrou being able to fill different roles, and Malamar playing the villain
@SeaOfPixels
@SeaOfPixels 3 ай бұрын
Definitely give Siebold Mega Blastoise and let Lysandre keep Mega Gyarados. Like you said, Siebold uses Mega Blastoise in the anime, and we can make Lysandre's Mega Gyarados shiny like it is in the anime to fit him more. Drasna also uses a Mega Altaria in the anime, so that would work better there.
@crazychristopher1989
@crazychristopher1989 3 ай бұрын
Except Mega Altaria was introduced in ORAS
@SeaOfPixels
@SeaOfPixels 3 ай бұрын
@@crazychristopher1989 I’m aware but in a theoretical third version that increases difficulty like the video is doing that wouldn’t be a problem.
@PalmtreePokemon
@PalmtreePokemon 3 ай бұрын
These videos cure my depression great job buddy
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
You love to hear it, thanks dood!
@mattwebb4187
@mattwebb4187 3 ай бұрын
Yes! I’ve always wanted to see a video about the evil teams. I wanna know which leader has which ace
@user-zw3ey5wi8x
@user-zw3ey5wi8x 3 ай бұрын
Man i need to play a pokemon X romhack with your balance changes
@loganfoco1184
@loganfoco1184 3 ай бұрын
And only after you beat their mega, they will send out their ace! That's wild bro! 😂
@dragonserpent215
@dragonserpent215 3 ай бұрын
New subscriber here. Love the stuff. I am all for an evil team video. I've always had an idea on how I would fix Cyrus (my favorite team leader battle-wise and story-wise), and Team Aqua and Team Magma are desperate need of fixing.
@Zoroarkarceus123
@Zoroarkarceus123 3 ай бұрын
Talonflame in particular getting its hidden ability makes sense... because for some reason your rival's Fletchling has it.
@joshawott5693
@joshawott5693 3 ай бұрын
the furfrou double battle below the mansion is a major battle
@GoldAndGrey
@GoldAndGrey 3 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to see you do Scarlet and Violet
@fenixrises9854
@fenixrises9854 3 ай бұрын
Where can I see this video of playing through kalos with only Gen 6 mons? I would def like to see that. Great content in this video btw. Thanks for taking the time to go over the elite four teams and upgrading them 😁
@shovanrahman1111
@shovanrahman1111 3 ай бұрын
Great video. If Wikstrom was in gen 8, I would 100% give him a Corviknight on his team. Also speaking of him, I'd replace X-Scissor on his Scizor with Bug Bite to have another STAB move powered up by Technician.
@Killua481
@Killua481 3 ай бұрын
Scizor getting Bug Bite is only available in ORAS through a move tutor, it's not available as a move in XY
@shovanrahman1111
@shovanrahman1111 3 ай бұрын
@@Killua481 Dang you're right. But at the very least, Fury Cutter is another option, that could potentially be quite strong for Scizor. But honestly, I guess X-Scissor is fine enough. Just throwing out some ideas here 😅
@Killua481
@Killua481 3 ай бұрын
@@shovanrahman1111 I had a hand in making this, trust me it was a considered option, but in the end we decided X scissor was more reliable that a fury cutter that can miss
@holly719
@holly719 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this one !!!🎉🎉🎉
@wanderingwind9601
@wanderingwind9601 3 ай бұрын
I would like you to be in charge of making every major Pokémon battle in all future games, official and fan made, thank you
@OKreations
@OKreations 2 ай бұрын
It’s too ez
@juandiegotorres9632
@juandiegotorres9632 Ай бұрын
Hawlucha is a performer like Diantha. It makes sense thematically
@Lawrence2525
@Lawrence2525 3 ай бұрын
With Pixilate and Refrigerate the normal type moves get 1,3 power more (1,2 after Gen 7), giving Gardevoir Hyper Voice would be a stronger choice than Moonblast, and it would actually make use of its ability! :)
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Oh there you go! I didn’t know that!
@Killua481
@Killua481 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video as always
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate it dood🫡
@DespianGrimmPaldea
@DespianGrimmPaldea 3 ай бұрын
I like the fact that the Kalos Elite Four is unique in that one of their members is also a former Team Flare member, but I also don't like the fact all of the Kalos Elite Four and a majority of the Gym Leaders after Korrina, and to the extent the Rivals after the 5th Gym, don't have a Mega Evolution. You want to flex a new mechanic? Make sure it isn't stuck to specific Pokemon or give the important trainers one of those specific Pokemon. Honestly I do agree with a majority of the changes to these teams, only changes I'd personally make to X/Y Teams overall are (Just gonna say it now, I'd do be wanting a Pokemon Evil Teams list of updated Teams for all the major baddies up to Gen 6): - Give Grant a Barbaracle as an Ace (I know it's a bit strong, but it's a Rock/Water Type, you'd be able to find plenty of Pokemon by the time you'd fight Grant for that NOT to be an issue. On top of that its Gen 6 Lv. Up Moveset is not really an issue, especially since it doesn't get Fury Cutter until Lv. 37.) - Have every Gym Leader have at least 1 extra Pokemon on their Team (Wulfric gets 2 because why not), and a majority of the Gym Leaders after Korrina, as well as the Elite Four have their own Mega Evolutions (Probably not Ramos, but depends on the person. Also, it's kind ridiculous that almost none of the major battles use the mechanic at all.). - Siebold's Ace being Blastoise and Wikstrom's being Aggron. (Siebold's not only because of the anime, but he's a chef, so it would be fitting to have turtle soup on his menu lol. Wikstrom's because it not only turns into a pure Steel Type, but it also looks knightly enough for the man. Scizor's also a nice pick because its an already established Pokemon on his team, but I'd honestly prefer if it wasn't the obvious choice.) - Last but certainly not least, changing Diantha's Team (Whether it be composition or just overall moveset) because whilst she does follow similar patterns to Steven Stone in that she has solely Pokemon of her Region, plus the 2 Fossil Mons, and a Psuedo Legend, her Team just dies to 3 different Types. We called her the worst Champion before Geeta, but to be fair to Geeta, she legitimately forgot to bring her A-Game Team for the Champion Battle. Though I would also have the replacements stick in line with her secondary theming, all of her Pokemon are not only differently colored Pokemon, but they also have a different strongest stat (Hawlucha is Green and its highest is speed, Tyrantrum is Red/Attack. Aurorus is Blue/HP, Gourgeist is Brown/Defense, Goodra is Purple/Special Defense, and Gardevoir is White/Special Attack). I do agree she needs to be more on the Lysandre contrast side, but also sticking in line with her secondary theming. To reiterate: I do enjoy the changes you thought would make the Teams overall better, and I can respect them. I just have my own opinions about what could be a better Team for Diantha. (Much like how I personally think that Clair should've probably had a Feraligatr on her Team and replaced one of her Dragonair for a Seadra, making her seem more like a Water specialist instead of Dragon to throw off the player, not by much, but slightly.)
@Savannah_Simpson
@Savannah_Simpson 3 ай бұрын
I really disagree and think Siebold should have Mega Blastoise. Yeah, Sycamore uses one but he doesn’t Mega evolve it and I just think Lysander is just too tied to Mega Gyarados.
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Fair enough!
@7DQuillion
@7DQuillion 3 ай бұрын
My bros amazing
@lydiavalentino
@lydiavalentino 3 ай бұрын
That villainous team idea is great
@termojao
@termojao 3 ай бұрын
I think u could give Dragalge its HA - Adaptability for an EVEN stronger SW or DM
@thoughtsofaleo2916
@thoughtsofaleo2916 3 ай бұрын
I really like your approach here! Like everyone has said, it's frustrating that the Kalos Elite Four didn't have Mega Evolution - like why did it get introduced if only the player and villain would use it? I know they wanted to make XY easier for new players but I feel like that was such a missed opportunity. Would love to see your take on the rivals or villain teams!
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for the feedback! I appreciate the support! Sounds good!
@RedDragonForce2
@RedDragonForce2 3 ай бұрын
Make Guardevoir a shiny, turning the Wedding Dress into a Funeral Dress. As if to say, this is your Funeral, Challenger!!
@TheGodIvy
@TheGodIvy 3 ай бұрын
Im quite surprised no trainers have shiny pokemon. Doesnt really matter, but someone like the champion having one would just be funny. Maybe your rival, a random gym leader, or yknow, literally anyome at all
@RedDragonForce2
@RedDragonForce2 3 ай бұрын
@@TheGodIvy Randomizers allow this.
@Nova-_-
@Nova-_- Ай бұрын
Would love to one day see an Elite Four centred around things other than a single type. Like a Trick Room team, or a team centred around a certain Terrain Also i wanna see you go all out on an Elite Four one day. Balance it for a custom ROM hack thats designed to be cruel. Hack the fight so Trick Room, Sun or even Toxic Spikes is permanently up from Turn 0 (or until the player overwrites it
@sblounchkzekd
@sblounchkzekd 3 ай бұрын
If Propobass had Stealth Rocks, you'd have Wikstrom be really punishing on switch-ins. It's guaranteed to get it off thanks to sturdy, and if Klefki got Spikes in, a Spinner becomes really valuable. Mix in Sandstorm and Wikstrom becomes a Knight standing against the storm
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Troooo, especially with Whirlwind
@danielcurren2119
@danielcurren2119 3 ай бұрын
I recommend adaptability dragalge. It’s not one to sleep on with decent special bulk
@rjd-kh8et
@rjd-kh8et 3 ай бұрын
Siebold's Starmie should have Natural Cure or its Hidden Ability Analytic, since Illuminate is completely useless in battle in this Gen. And trainers are actually programmed to switch out if a Pokémon with Natural Cure is asleep.
@volcanbolt12
@volcanbolt12 3 ай бұрын
Analytic would be pointless on Starmie, since the boost applies only if it attacks last (and it has 115 in Speed, so...); Natural Cure is the only real option, imho
@seamus5979
@seamus5979 3 ай бұрын
well it would matter if people aren’t goobers playing on switch mode since the damage boost also applies when a pokemon is switched in
@volcanbolt12
@volcanbolt12 3 ай бұрын
@@seamus5979 Ok, but it'd still be situational: if I'm aware of what move Starmie is going to use, I could counter it with a switch on an "immune" pokémon and waste its Analytic; meanwhile, Natural Cure will be "alive" the moment Starmie will get statused; besides, you'll play Life Orb Starmie most of the time, so that extra boost isn't that relevant compared to a garanteed status heal
@ligneotetsvdo1341
@ligneotetsvdo1341 Ай бұрын
Personally i would keep the the number of four pokemon for the elite four. For Malva, I would replace Flambusard (forgot it's english name) by M.Houndoom and, make Torkoal the sun installer (with your idea of giving one item to the you could have give a heat rock to Torkoal), it may prevents from wasting attacks slot of other pokemons for the sun control. Then, as i liked the idea of playing with climate, i found it could be quite fun to go for some rain team for Siebold (i think it is his EN name), with this you could make Gyarados faster with the other ability and may you could put tentacruel and Pelipper over Golgo and Clawitzer to put some t spikes and rain. And for Drasna, may Tyrantrum could replace Noivern and get to use the SR and get the mega Ampharos over Altaria (dunno if it is its en name too).
@nickdentoom1173
@nickdentoom1173 3 ай бұрын
I totally see why you ddin't give Siebold Mega Blastoise, since that would have felt unfair towards Malva not getting a Charizard Y and Drasna not getting X. My problem with T-Wave over Torment for Klefki on Wikstroms team, is that his team is cakewalk for Ground types. If you are going to do an Evil team fix, i would prefer Diggersby over Malamar for Diantha, since Malamar is Xerosic's ace. Xerosic has 2 Pokemon anyways (With Lysandre having only four). There a couple of Pokemon that aren't used by any major trainer in XY.
@MonosDBZ.
@MonosDBZ. 3 ай бұрын
Love these videos man, would you be down to make one about fixing the worst starters like the chicorita line.
@schaffs2
@schaffs2 3 ай бұрын
14:29 After the Indigo Disk expansion Geeta isn’t the worst champion, I’d say she’s one of the strongest
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Oh I didn’t know you battle her again, I dropped the indigo disk halfway through haha
@darkraiknight386
@darkraiknight386 3 ай бұрын
@@OKreationsYou can invite her to the League Club Room after catching Terapagos, and her team composition is very much improved! She actually uses Glimmora first and Kingambit last, and that’s for starters!
@doc_witch
@doc_witch 3 ай бұрын
I definitely wanna see a rework of Lysandre's team!
@szadowski
@szadowski 3 ай бұрын
I love how the megas aren't the aces! Makes them basically have two MVPs. We need the evil team team update!
@andresmunoz4418
@andresmunoz4418 3 ай бұрын
ate this up per usual
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Thanks dood!
@FroyoMNS
@FroyoMNS 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think that Aegislash should have Shadow Sneak as its Ghost STAB, simply because it will put it in its defensively weak Attack form before the player’s Pokémon gets the chance to attack.
@FroyoMNS
@FroyoMNS 3 ай бұрын
Also, Tyrantrum should have Rock Head if it’s running Head Smash imo (since Strong Jaw doesn’t boost either of its STAB moves and Head Smash recoil is brutal).
@BirdCraftSSB
@BirdCraftSSB 3 ай бұрын
While I like most of the changes, I don't like that you did not make the Megas the new aces especially since a lot of them would be a bigger challenge the original aces My ideas for new Elite Four teams: Siebold: Mega Blastoise Clawitzer Barbaracle Gyarados Lanturn Malva: Mega Houndoom Talonflame Pyroar Chandelure Torkoal Wilkstrom: Mega Scizor Aegislash Bisharp Klefki Skarmory Drasna: Mega Ampharos Dragalge Noivern Garchomp Tyrantrum Diantha: Mega Gardevoir Goodra Trevenant Pangoro Aurorus Furfrou
@UnderscoreKikimo
@UnderscoreKikimo 3 ай бұрын
Nice job!
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@lucaslaine757
@lucaslaine757 3 ай бұрын
For Lysandre, I think mega aggron or mega tyranitar depending the version you play could be interesting, as those megas are exclusive to X or Y
@TheGodIvy
@TheGodIvy 3 ай бұрын
Well this is the first "changing x thing" about pokemon that i can actually watch, as most of them just make said characters as hard as possible for no real reason. I have one critique (which is 100% my personal bias, i know) but id stick with 4 mons for each elite 4 member. I think a 5th can be added for rematches, but having 4 mons each is what gamefreak intended, and i personally wouldnt change that
@XiaoKerr
@XiaoKerr 3 ай бұрын
Love this video!
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@RedHoodFH
@RedHoodFH 3 ай бұрын
I'd have gone Intimidate on the houndoom before mega evolving to cripple any fighting types
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
Houndoom unfortunately doesn’t get intimidate!
@RedHoodFH
@RedHoodFH 3 ай бұрын
@@OKreations.... I've been playing too much storm silver 🤣🤣🤣
@OKreations
@OKreations 3 ай бұрын
That’s so real😂
@allyrose9494
@allyrose9494 3 ай бұрын
Silly fun fact, on my first Kalos playthough um.... turns out my entire team was vulnerable to Mega Gardevoir, so Diantha nearly swept my entire team, and I only won through spamming dig on Garchomp. Do not ask how that worked because to this day I still don't know
@Azanathal
@Azanathal 3 ай бұрын
For Drasana, and the Elite 4 in general, I think their Mega should be their Ace, especially since its this generation's gimmick. That being said, I also think this should change Noivern's Boomburst -> Super Fang. Boomburst works better on a final pokemon, where Super Fang is good on a non-final pokemon.
@SmashBrosAssemble
@SmashBrosAssemble 3 ай бұрын
Siebold: Mega Blastoise Clawitzer Barbaracle Gyarados Ludicolo Malva: Mega Houndoom Talonflame Pyroar Chandelure Volcarona Wilkstrom: Mega Scizor Aegislash Bisharp Klefki Magnezone Drasna: Mega Ampharos Dragalge Noivern Haxorus Altaria Diantha: Mega Gardevoir Goodra Sylveon Malamar Aurorus Gourgeist
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