The Horrific Tragedy of the MOFFATT BROTHERS. Risks of Early Pioneers.

[@kellysteele78]

Reminds me of Lonesome Dove when Woodrow brought Gus back. Being raised in the Sooner State I do love the wild pioneer stories. Tough on both sides. R.I.P. Moffat brothers. Thanks for telling this story, Ron. Wonderful job😊

[@deborahgilchrist7048]

Why is Moffitt/ moffatt spelt different on the memorial stone ....did anyone notice

[@jananderson672]

Again a well done story with absolutely beautiful music. I have Black Foot heritage and I am proud of it. I m proud to be an American and I 'm sad that both cultures couldn't be side by side in peace.Safe travels, Ron.

[@AnnaMedina-mi9qt]

So true and sad

[@jananderson672]

@@AnnaMedina-mi9qt As my great great grandmother said,we are all humans,traveling on a beautiful planet given to us to take care of, both plants and animals are not ours,but to be treasured and all humans are equal in the Creator's eyes. I've always endeavored to follow her words.

[@janetcarey6954]

So glad this story was shared. My Mom and her family were from Kansas, not far from where this horrible event happened. My grandfather had stories from decades ago.

[@susananderson5792]

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[@susananderson5792]

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[@karlyoung5089]

Everyone cries and goes on about how terrible the Indians were treated. No one talks about how they bought it apon themselves. For example, There would have never been a trail of tears if not for the Fort Mims Massacre where Indians butchered 500 innocent people, mostly women and children.

[@anthonyr5869]

There’s no way your grandfather was in those times maybe they were passed down to him

[@judyclark5736]

Being from Kansas, I'm familiar with the stories of "Indians". All my ancestors came to America from Sweden. They settled in Kansas. My great grandmother was home with her children when an Indian peeked in the kitchen window. She offered him chickens and hogs. Ironically, her husband was gone to buffalo hunt in Oklahoma. She hated being left alone. So much history around that area with the Santa Fe Trail, Indians, soldiers, etc. It has all been preserved.

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

A lot of amazing history on the frontier from Kansas

[@wildatheart3182]

My ancestors from Kansas were red-heads so when they headed to Arizona they had to hide one sister well in the wagon as she wouldn’t cut her hair. I guess blond and redheads were real trophies.

[@antonstegen1737]

​@@wildatheart3182 😊

[@irishcountrygirl78]

​@@wildatheart3182really? Wow..scary. l often wonder...if they had known would they have travelled to America at all...

[@DonnaCPunk]

I live in Leavenworth. They bank on that First City business so hard here. There's a point by the river, near the fort, where you can see where Lewis & Clark stopped. Also, I kinda cringed at "Saleena". I automatically sighed, "It's Sa-LINE-a". But I guess it's a common mistake if you don't live here.

[@shirleyashanti3031]

So much early pioneer history is frought with romanticism. Your narration of straight with no chaser shows that life was anything but romantic. What an interesting story from a great storyteller. Thank you. People faced many sacrifices and hardships to make our beloved America. We should remember this always. Rest in peace for the Moffatt family.

[@flocosta]

I'm amazed at how beautiful that monument is and what great shape it's in. Although sad as it is, I do like when the stone tells a story of it's own by stating a cause of death. It's so interesting. Thanks Ron. You always bring these stories to life like no one else can.

[@larauch13]

Amazing monument. We take so much for granted today. Back in the 1800s, if you survived the day, it was something to be grateful for.

[@garden2356]

Please keep making MORE videos bringing back to life of the forgotten. Thank you. I feel so saddened for especially the animals.

[@ellennewth6305]

It took a great deal of courage to venture out west in the mid-1800s. Thank you for sharing this spectacular monument and the tragic story that goes along with it, Ron. Another fantastic history lesson from beyond the grave.

[@redrooster1908]

Wonderful production on this video/ audio, Ron!!!! Wise solution to the windy conditions and a special treat for us... 100% enjoying your narration of this historic tragic true story.

[@brt246]

Beautifully presented storie with compassion and fact for both sides , the Native American Indians trying to protect their land and way of life as all of us would do today , the settlers were probably just trying to carve out a living like the rest of us even to this day , but as it is today there is always a heavy price to pay for taking a nation's land . Long Live The Native American ❤

[@Lauriescaglione210]

Wow that was amazing! So sad but you did such a thoughtful tribute to them. Great job Ron. Thank you

[@dawnprochilo8084]

So sad, two guys just trying to make a better life for themselves and it was cut short. I give them alot of credit for going on their own back in those days. I hope they are at peace now and forever. Thank you Ron for sharing this story. Take care.

[@hh7407]

I did not mean to miss it. I was carrying a paper plate of food outside and a strong, sudden gust of wind caused it to spill all down my left leg and foot. I missed out because I was cleaning up. Lost that meal on the lawn. Hope some critter eats well tonight. I caught up though and just watched it. Beautiful monument to the family. I don't think anyone could miss seeing it. I bet everyone who comes to the cemetery checks it out but nobody would know the details and stories unless they do a lot of research. Ron, you did a ton of research! Great work as always! The music, the sounds of the wind, your story telling is always excellent. I always love your story telling. You are to adventure and exciting journeys what David Attenborough is to animal shows.

[@denisesmith2745]

Fantastic presentation and narration, Ron. Absolutely beautiful. Excellent music, too. I absorbed everything you said , and I was able to even see pictures in my mind because of your narrative. Loved the Kansas connection, too, as I am from there. My gosh…. I wish my dad could have watched this. Thank you, Ron. Love from Ft Worth ❤

[@eileenallen1986]

A very interesting account. The wording of the letter is so discriptive of the time. The mother lived until she was 93. Lots of changes through her life. RIP Moffitt family.

[@Clymers1984]

Hey Ron, it was blustery here in Iowa yesterday. Our son, 26, fatal car accident December 2019. Buried next to his grandfather, his favorite place to be. Prairie City Iowa 🕊️

[@bethfromarkansas7190]

So sorry for your loss.

[@d.g.n9392]

Ron, what a story you’ve brought to us, there’s 1000’s of families that struggled through those times. Just no records of the details. Imagine trying to live in those times and everyday, something could occur to change your lives. Any stranger say to day encounter could be violent and deadly. Great story if the Moffatt brothers

[@rachelbodzioch9695]

Really nice! The music, the pictures, the reading of the story. I do admire all of the pioneers who came out west It took so much courage. I still can't get over how people could come from different countries across the ocean to start a new life! There were a few surnames in that cemetery that are family names for me, I'm going to have to do a little research. Thanks for a great show Ron and all who helped.

[@BashfulnGracie57]

Captain Henry Booth was a relative of mine. I was not aware of the information so, glad you looked into the details, great story. I also had relatives that lived in Salina, Kansas during 1864 and I always wondered why they moved; now I know. Again, great work and thank you for finding the story.

[@mattroberts8653]

I also have a family connection to this story. The child in the house, my Great, Great Grandmother. Glad to hear the story told here.

[@lisawoodwalker7180]

Beautifully told as only your beautiful soul could tell this story. Looove it!! Thank❤❤❤ you as always, Ron!!

[@bettyo222]

Your sincere analysis of this story/case is why I press the like button before starting to watch your vids..RIP to all that died on both sides.

[@dianecrawford2598]

Thank you, Ron, for another very interesting story. Your reading those letters aloud made it more real. I enjoyed the walk through the cemetery, also, to see some of the gravestones.

[@honestly1970]

The audacity. Reminds me of a Tupac lyric, "blind to a broken man's dream" the inability of the invaders to understand why the original occupants might object to being displaced.Great video, leaving better educated.

[@NicolaBaumann1980]

Thank you for this video! The story provides a very good insight into the time. I really appreciate your nuanced look at what was happening in general back then. And I agree with you 100%. As a German, I feel the history of the immigrants and settlers as my history as well. Europe and America are closely connected historically. I don't know if my ancestors immigrated to America. I would like to know. But two world wars, changing country borders and many destroyed archives make genealogy complicated, lengthy and expensive. Thank you for this historical insight. I wish all those who died back then, no matter what nationality or skin color, that they rest in peace.

[@maximasromulus3461]

The large Lovingly carved stone with the name "CRAIG" was regal. These remembrances are a wonderful thing.

[@badchoices3761]

Hi Ron. Thank you for sharing this story. Well done and I also,enjoyed the sound track. 👍👍

[@scottrider641]

Tragic but beautifully told story Thanks. I'm proud to be a supporter of your channel

[@lizdevich7192]

I spent a weekend on an Indian Reservation in Rice Lake, Minnesota. I had a great time there. I didn't want to leave the reservation. I felt like I belonged there! I cried leaving Rice Lake, Minnesota.😢

[@chrisgraphs1015]

Another interesting video Ron. Makes you wonder about the stories that are lost to time. Just like our own oneday most will be lost.

[@theresalaux5655]

Great story. I love Civil War and WW II history. I have some Indian in my family tree.Thanks Ron!

[@nancyvolke237]

So sad, I hope after that tragic death, they are resting in peace 😢 Thanks, Ron, for sharing this story!!👍🏻

[@susanwilliams3852]

Is it just me .but when you tell these stories i feel like im in it .must be the music .as sad as it is.great story telling..❤

[@H_H____]

I rewatched just now for a 2nd time to hear the story, the music, to see the illustrations. Sad for the parents who lost their sons. While I know how the First Nation was protecting their land, it does seem ruthless that the two different sides couldn't come together and live on the same huge continent together. Lots of wide open spaces. It wasn't as though the place wasn't big enough for the two of them. Look how many different people we have packed into this same continent today and it is a melting pot of different people from all over the world. There really is room enough for everyone.

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

I agree, there was lots of space, the problem was the whites wanted it all, and what they said they would share - they lied and cheated, tricking the Chiefs every step of the way - breaking the treaties. One after another after another after another. Pathetic sad history.

[@isabelltecaxco-yd3lw]

Hello Ron it's Isabell here in Tucson Arizona, just heard your story and it was sad but I'm glad I heard it from you. Your videos are always so informative and I love how you read the letters. Never had heard this one before. Thank you and stay safe out there.

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

Hello Isabell. I was just in Tucson a few days ago shooting two stories there at Evergreen cemetery. As you may know, I did two other episodes there at Evergreen a couple of years ago. Vicky Hoskinson murder and the woman who survived the Apache attack

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

Love Tucson!!

[@louisefisher5243]

Great story Ron. I love watching your stories and I never miss them 😊.

[@seascape1016]

Great story Ron. I love history. Indian’s are our history too. Respect for all of them. May all Rest In Peace. 🕯

[@pamelamikel7967]

Amazing telling of this tragic event. Thanks Ron.

[@TerranceTyler-rs5eh]

Thank You for telling their story. I have a comment I would like to make. I am not trying to offend anyone. I personally do not believe it is our place to judge who was right or wrong during these types of incidents where many lives were lost on both sides. I believe history should be taught and view as and when the true facts are known. The best explanation I have ever read can be found on the internet. I don’t try to take credit for the wording used but 100 per cent agree with whomever wrote it. 'The past' is completed and can never be changed, but 'history' is the ongoing discussion of trying to explain the past and is open to change and revision. 'History' relies upon what we know about 'the past', and this is dependent on the evidence available. You cannot write a history that is not based upon evidence. It is not right in my opinion to place blame anywhere but it is our duty to learn from the mistakes made on both sides and make sure they are not repeated. Again "Thank you" for the story. Myself and others are still trying to get more information about the incident.

[@Wendeajo]

Ron, thank you from my heart for acknowledging and verifying the history of my ancestors and the futile struggle to hold onto their lands. However, the way of the world is to conquer and to claim. No matter where on the planet these struggles take place there is always a loser, there is always grief and it's always sad. May these boys rest in peace.

[@davidmclaughlin2796]

What great piece of history, thank you.

[@MoonbeamAcres]

Being from Texas I know all too well the stories of the indian raids and strange thing is, I have ancestors on both sides of that issue. I have native ancestors as well as those who moved here from TN, KY, GA and beyond to join in the Indian Wars. I had several ancestors who died as Texas pioneers trying to make a life for themselves. I just can't imagine living like that. Bless their hearts. Rest in peace Moffatt brothers, you are certainly not forgotten.

[@marymahaffey4618]

Great story Ron and sad those brothers died young and I can understand that it was hard times back then to...RIP. MOFFATT BROTHERS 🙏😇.....ty Ron another great story !! 💖

[@richdiscoveries]

Awesome, you did great work on this one. Thank you for sharing the story with us

[@monikameza4107]

Thanks Ron for sharing this amazing frontier story. 👍

[@labmom223]

Enjoy your videos. Thanks for including pics when you can. I love old pics.

[@staysea71]

This story reminds me of my Norwegian relatives who died during the Dakota Uprising in Jackson County, Minnesota. There's a monument that was erected in honor of those who died.

[@shirleythompson8251]

So sad. Two determined young men who were trying to secure a new life for their loved one's 🥺 I couldn't help feeling even more sad when i thought about the letter and realising their sister wouldn't receive it until after their deaths, especially after he gently chastised her for not writing to them yet. The guilt she must have felt over those words 😔 This story has been narrated with respect and beautifully filmed 👏 👏👏

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

Thank you Shirley for the wonderfully inspiring note.

[@robindykeman8404]

We have a similar one in Alton, Illinois. The stone monument Is now in the parking lot of an auction house. The original stones are on in a small strip of woods about a couple hundred feet away on private property. It is stated that 6 women and children were killed .

[@angietunstall2555]

Beautifully presented, Ron! If I remember correctly 1840 saw the Potato Famine in Ireland which caused thousands to uproot to either England (West Coast to places like Liverpool were there is a large Irish population to this day) Or to try their luck abroad, as in America. Anything; Anywhere was better than starving to death, so scathing was the famine, nor an end to it seen.😊

[@mariaferreras4369]

Great job Ron. Music added to the video. Sad to say, pioneers were subject to the 600 nations of Native Americans. Cruel struggle that we see through these stories. Pioneer diaries are fascinating. They often tell of tales where a settler killed a Native American and the shock when it was returned against their families. And we can imagine the same when the reverse happened. One thing that stands out from the diaries, death was not shocking to these people at this time in history. Wagon trains passed along children who lost both parents. People remarried right away for survival. A man who lost a spouse and had children took a bride often within days. Hard hard times!

[@ginnymiller2448]

Hey great story! I have not heard this one before. My grandpa was a Cherokee and he always referred to himself as an Indian 🤷‍♀ The last picture shown looks like a Remington painting? Fredric Remington did an incredible amount of work to accurately paint pictures of what Native Americans really looked like in his time. He is buried in New York, should you ever have the chance to pass through that part of the country. If you ever find yourself visiting Arlington National Cemetery, Native American Ira Hayes is buried there. Great video, as always.

[@Trancymind]

A real Indian is from India. When Christopher Columbus passed away, he still thought the New World was actuatlly India. The culture of India is so much richer and older including their food than the indigenous in the americas. Also indian women are very attractive because of their eyes (some green color) and their body curves from top to bottom.

[@robinjacobson9402]

Johnny Cash Sang a song of Ira Hayes ,remember,( Johnny was Indian😊)

[@PaisleyPatchouli]

Fascinating! Excellent presentation covering this hence unknown slice of history.

[@theresalund5132]

Thank you so much for this story it says a lot it was just wonderful. I love odor frontier stories just beautiful very sad that everything you say is very true. I’m sure because you search and you have your other sweet fans like Lisa, and all the others that you have with you to do this. Just amazing can’t wait till next Sunday for the next one, this was truly truly amazing. Thank you so much Ron and God bless your family.

[@julianaclayton7893]

Thank you for another brilliant story. You have an amazing narrative voice and I’ll be binge watching and listening to you as I am learning so much history about American past… ♥️🇦🇺

[@susanna3]

What a dramatic story. I loved how you read the historical account and Thomas Moffatts' letter, so poignant that it was written only days before he died. It took a special kind of spirit for the pioneers, knowing the risks. The monument to these two young men is impressive, has held up well. So moving, they were brought back home ❤ great job Ron thanks!

[@donnaelkins186]

❤ Ron that was an awesome story! Thank you so much for sharing this 1.

[@Only1forme75]

1 of the best stories you have ever done. I enjoyed it

[@aliciabrewer9444]

People back in those days had a very hard life. Just imagine all the things they saw and lived through back then… So interesting….. I love hearing stories about those pioneer days. Stay safe out there Ron.🙂💟

[@feralLove]

Bold, badass pioneer ladies!! I find your stories to be riveting Ron and greatly appreciate your diligence in doing your historical research to bring accuracy and authenticity to the colorful characters who once walked amongst us.

[@charleshuschka3860]

Absolutely a great video. Like I have said before you sir have found your calling!

[@bigchevy350boy]

Great story Ron! I live wayy up in Bucksport Maine. & we have an old cemetery that dates back to the "red paint people". I don't know a lot about them. Besides they say they haunt the man made lake on the other side of town that they used to bury their dead. Love learning the history. Thanks for sharing

[@bigwhiteheron]

Hello Bucksport! From Belfast, currently in exile in NY but can't wait to be back!

[@WickedWest512]

Absolutely love your story telling and you have the most soothing voice.

[@Harkart59]

Great story. Crazy times, but it's true how the term massacre was used. It was sad the people coming into new lands were not prepared and the Native Americans were also not prepared to share all their resources with people who weren't interested in getting to know them. Thanks for another fantastic video!

[@wesleydavis1532]

Great video Ron,...RIP, Moffitt family, RIP🙏🙏🙏

[@oanaelena4001]

Definitely harsh times back then😢 they died so young, I can't imagine the pain her mother had to live with.

[@angelalewis92]

Thanks for sharing Ron. You are so amazing at what you do.

[@perijetton9275]

I love a good story delivered well! Thank you 😊

[@Moose1032]

Well done. This captured the story very well. This makes one put themselves in the time and era it happened like we were there. Thank you

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

thanks Moose! this what I am after, Time Machine back.

[@Carolbearce]

Well done Ron, thanks for sharing this history with us.

[@Numberonecoinrollhunter]

I am half Cherokee Native American from my father’s side of the family my friends always get mad at me because I have a tan color all year around even In the winter time I tell them it’s all about my family on my father’s side my mother is a German but I always love telling the story of my family background i love watching your channel and the stories you tell it’s like no other thank you my friend and I really liked the video you made in Mexico.

[@Jenny-wh2tx]

Wish i could be up for a live but in 7 hours it be so late in england ...ill catch up in the morning with a cup of tea ron look forward to it xx

[@genaj67]

I'm 30 miles from Salina. I'm also Irish/English and Native American, so tough to think about. My 6x great uncle was Daniel Boone and his brother Ned, my 6x Grt grandfather, was killed by Native Americans. My son says "Mom, what if your Gpa killed your Gpa" 🤔 which caught me off guard🤯. Life of the early frontier..... It's sad and hard to imagine but true, a lot happened way back when that was just a way of life for those who lived off the land. 😢 I'm proud of both, in spite of such conflict.

[@stokes2672]

Do you have German Baptist ancestry as well? I know some German Baptist are related to Daniel Boone as well

[@dolinaj1]

I very much enjoy and appreciate your well-researched, well-narrated, intimate historical videos. The background music is not only a distraction, it does not enhance your story. What a relief the music does not play continuously in this video! Merci beaucoup.

[@melanienance4920]

Thank you Ron for an excellent story in history.

[@elissarn8529]

The Indians I've spoken to don't mind being called Indians, and some have even acknowledged that they might not have been the first to settle North America - that there may have been others before them. And you are right, Ron - this was the way it was. One group would fight another group, usually to gain land. Still ongoing in this world!!

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

That is true for the minority, but most Native Americans do not like to be called Indians. Just the facts - sorry. Just look at the baseball team Cleveland Indians and what happened. Fact fact fact can’t deny it

[@irishcountrygirl78]

If you go back far enough the world looked differently sure, but they were there as natives before the white man, 10,000 years or more is long enough. I can understand that as a native from here, it was their home, their culture and Europeans were taking over, how brave they were to take on native Americans too knowing they could be ruthlessly killed. So much conquering or colonising went on, l know which side I'd be on, but they'd kill me too and rightly so for l am "white man".

[@keithalay1]

I love your adventures. The stories are absolutely amazing thank you 🙏🏻

[@rpm12091]

David Moffitt was my Great Grandfathers cousin, John & Thomas have their names on a monument by the courthouse in Lincoln County Kansas. I have heard this story my whole life, I am 72.

[@larking1555]

I love that you cover these and many other great stories. Thank you for what you do. I am a white person- yet knowing the truth as I do, I feel for the fallen pioneers as I feel for fallen Nazis. Looking at the graves, I only remember the natives, whether they attacked first or not.

[@ritagreen9528]

Thank you Ron ❤️ Have an amazing blessed week ❤️

[@Sdsacanita196]

So heartwrenching.. to think when we played cowboys and indians in the 60's it was just a game for fun, not knowing the true relations of indians towards whites. It was innocence back then..just game playing.. Ron this is a beautiful monument, i can't imagine how their brother felt having to get his severely decomposed younger brothers out of the grave and back home, so sad.. Thank you for this story in remembering the 4 men... rip all 4

[@CaroleLeamer735]

Great but sad story. Thank you for sharing ❤

[@dianeb7420]

A story to be told! Thanks Ron! RIP Moffatts 🙏💕

[@deannesherriff3247]

Yes, I clearly remember my Grandmother, a lady who brought up 2 brothers and 6 sisters when her mother died when she was 12, saying each evening, “see you tomorrow God willing”. And she meant it.

[@jamesbednar8625]

Good video!! Am from Kansas and have visited the battle site where the Moffatt's (or Moffitt's) - have seen spelled differently in various books - and 2 others were killed fighting Indians. There is a nice monument dedicated to the Indians killed in the battle and a nice monument as well for the pioneers. Located just to the SE of Lincoln, KS.

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

Wow, very very cool. You were there!!!!Thanks for sharing

[@terriehumphries6028]

You sounded kind of like John Wayne reading that letter and bit of History. I used to think how horrible these attacks by Native As Americans were until I began to understand what really happened. It is sad they had to die but the Natives were dieing too. It was just sad on both sides of the coins.

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

Thank you, that’s a big compliment

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

Unintentional

[@jenniferbrooks9324]

Hi Ron, hey gang I missed you guys been away for a while but I’m back now. Thank you for the video. Always interesting.

[@lorrainebland3135]

Thank you for sharing 😮❤

[@theearthauger]

Hi Ron. I'm looking forward to seeing this story. Thank you for another Great one

[@shawnhorkheimer5267]

😢Thank you Ron !- I love all that you do for all of us that watch your videos !- You travel to do it all for us !- I love you like a brother,- I never had one !... I'm 56,- and I really wish you would do a story on : Frank Marino,- of the great 70's band: MAHOGANY RUSH !...- THEM GUYS !.....- ONE OF MY FAVORITE ROCK BANDS FROM THE 70's !....

[@mdh8448]

Good evening, great show, thank you. Hopi,Az

[@johno30197]

Thank's for sharing mate

[@nancyparrish3297]

Very interesting Ron. Thanks for sharing. Love all if your videos. Thank you again.

[@jeddyfloyd2424]

Excellent video. Thank you

[@wach761]

Well, learn something about history that I didn't know.⚘️⚘️😔 Thank you so much for the video .I do appreciate you.🌻😊

[@brendastibolt6672]

Thank you Ron. Sad but interesting story.

[@jenienecastle9832]

Good afternoon, Ron. I knew you were going to pick the two brothers. Can't wait.

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

I didn’t pick it, you guys did. It was 60% voting for that

[@jennybanaka9874]

That was from around the time when a lot of buffalo were poached instead taken for full use which angered the natives. The natives relied on the buffalo for life such as skins and meat complete use. The poachers would kill a whole herd for the pelt and leave the rest to rot. So this made them feel threatened.

[@bigwhiteheron]

Thank you for acknowledging in the beginning just before reading the letter, that "Indian" is not a correct term. Thats refreshing!

[@carolynkatsilas8559]

Thank you Ron for this very sad story of history. I feel so bad for these two young men who just wanted to be ranchers. Also I’m not excusing the Indians for any thing, but they had lived here all their lives and then white men come along and try to take away their freedom and their home that was basically all they knew. So it’s hard and sad for everyone. 😢💔

[@brianshook3289]

Yep. Culture clashes are never good, I dont blame the natives, the euros came looking for a new life, refugees, persecuted, just looking for a decent life, wiped out the natives.....overwhelming culture, and numbers, destryoed the natives way of life, its happening right now.