Fact Checking Proof of a 6000 Year old Earth

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SciManDan

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@micheljay8822
@micheljay8822 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me that scene in liar liar where Jim carry yells “objection!” And the judge asks him “why?” And Jim goes :” because it’s devastating to my case…”
@deadphim
@deadphim 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao the resemblance is uncanny
@CYBRLFT
@CYBRLFT 3 жыл бұрын
To quote professor Dave: “So some book says a thing”.
@louissergio
@louissergio 3 жыл бұрын
Never a truer word spoken.
@Connection-Lost
@Connection-Lost 3 жыл бұрын
_Got it._
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 3 жыл бұрын
'but the bible says!' lol
@FreaM20
@FreaM20 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what came to my mind :-D
@audiotyresup
@audiotyresup 3 жыл бұрын
@@purefoldnz3070 so what if it's what "the scroll" says? Scrolls have all kinds of things on them. Apparently Plato's 'Apologia' isn't entirely historically correct, doesn't mean his testimony of Socrates' trial is the truth. These believers like him that insist on employing the appeal to authority fallacy need to learn that.
@setojurai
@setojurai 3 жыл бұрын
My number one source Spiderman is real: Marvel comics. Since it was written down clearly its literal history. Just like everything else ever written. Which is why we know Jedi are real too.
@freddan6fly
@freddan6fly 3 жыл бұрын
New York is real, I have been there, so Spiderman proven.
@rubylazer995
@rubylazer995 3 жыл бұрын
not to mention that independence day and war of the worlds were also real
@brinkerduo
@brinkerduo 3 жыл бұрын
Spiderman Chapter1: Verse1 "With great power, comes great responsibility". A better system than god chooses to use. Excelsior!
@setojurai
@setojurai 3 жыл бұрын
@@brinkerduo right?
@MegaloTnt
@MegaloTnt 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait until I can go to space and see jar jar binks
@TheZoltan-42
@TheZoltan-42 3 жыл бұрын
Irrefutable proof: Step 1: You HAVE to believe the Bible. Step 2: The Bible says... Another job well done.
@omegatired
@omegatired 2 жыл бұрын
Much like the gentleman in my philosophy classes who came to the philosophy club meeting and claimed he had a proof god existed. Great proof to the final step: The Leap of Faith ... Yeah, no. Flail.
@hughjanus2781
@hughjanus2781 Жыл бұрын
Step 1: begging the question Step 2: Circular reasoning
@WharfRat0A54
@WharfRat0A54 3 жыл бұрын
So, his three 'proofs' are; bible, bible, and reality scares me. Very convincing. lol
@DarkMetaOFFICIAL
@DarkMetaOFFICIAL 3 жыл бұрын
and vegetarian animals bro 🍉🐐🍐🍊🐶🐶
@maxmayer62
@maxmayer62 3 жыл бұрын
😂so true
@patrickspapens5497
@patrickspapens5497 3 жыл бұрын
That's all you need when you're delusional
@JohnM3665570
@JohnM3665570 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkMetaOFFICIAL , and vegetarian sharks and piranha.
@EdwardHowton
@EdwardHowton 3 жыл бұрын
"(...)and reality scares me *but the bible makes me feel better."* You forgot that bit.
@ACSMARTIALARTS
@ACSMARTIALARTS 3 жыл бұрын
The Silmarillion by J. R. R. Tolkien, reads as though it's written in a hostorical narrative form.
@blacktoothfox677
@blacktoothfox677 3 жыл бұрын
what is hostorical
@rallyfeind
@rallyfeind 3 жыл бұрын
If it had a guy that told people rules it would be a Bible for Middle Earth. Then there could be a Church Lady/Gollum saying "isn't that PRECIOUS!"
@smashexentertainment676
@smashexentertainment676 3 жыл бұрын
I'd rather accept Michael Moorcock's multiverse. It's kinda magical and completely prehistorical, yet still makes more sense and way more consistent than the bible.
@earendilthemariner5546
@earendilthemariner5546 3 жыл бұрын
@UCZ0_ZE-kk9Dse182Ht8ltSQ it does though. Eru Ilúvatar. He created Men and Elves and told Melkor to shut the fuck up when Melkor started singing his discord. The Valar came from his thoughts and then he created the lesser angels (maiar)
@Siska0Robert
@Siska0Robert 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny that Tolkien's world was created flat, but it was "rounded" later.
@Tornadopelt
@Tornadopelt 3 жыл бұрын
The moment this man said that his number one reason for believing the Earth is 6,000 years old was *the Bible,* my immediate response was, "Circular reasoning - you're using the claim to prove the claim is true."
@simond.455
@simond.455 3 жыл бұрын
Especially if you take it literally, because then it's obviously wrong because of all the contradictions.
@Tornadopelt
@Tornadopelt 3 жыл бұрын
@@simond.455 For instance, the circle of metal that had a diameter of 10 cubits and a circumference of 30 cubits, when the ratio of the diameter to the circumference is ALWAYS 3.14159265. If the ratio between a circle's circumference and diameter isn't pi, it's not a fucking circle.
@dogwalker666
@dogwalker666 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't even say anything about the crazy 6K years, he is just making it up.
@grahvis
@grahvis 3 жыл бұрын
The Bible which states the moon is a lesser light to govern the night, when in reality, half the time it is out during the day.
@fusola9612
@fusola9612 3 жыл бұрын
In philosphy that's called an "infinite regress" (aka. circle argument -equal to your 'circular reasoning') "something is true, because it is true." :D I just love it when people do not realize they use this method in an arguement or a discussion in general.
@tomwakeham1445
@tomwakeham1445 3 жыл бұрын
I believe in a Middle Age Earth. A bit rotund around the belly having developed some bad habits and in a toxic relationship with it's dominant life form.
@timtheskeptic1147
@timtheskeptic1147 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when Earth was having a midlife crisis and started beekeeping? Good times!
@kamielzeegers8106
@kamielzeegers8106 3 жыл бұрын
I believe in Middle Earth. Dwarves & elves & hobbits & whatnot.
@michellebennett4015
@michellebennett4015 3 жыл бұрын
He just neatly explained exactly why I’m an atheist.
@warbrain1053
@warbrain1053 3 жыл бұрын
I do not want to make you religious but he also shows why some religions let science do the job. Trying to fit in old writings with modern science especially when you IMPOSE your reality. Some are doing it better than others. Fun fact, an argument he says is disproved by the third monotheist religion, as in islam, there are "human days" for us and days for god, just one day is longer than a young earths life. If i am not mistaken one day for god is equal to 10.000 years, which makes the creation last 70.000 years. Which is more realistic... but yet small.
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. I am not anywhere limber enough to follow him into his mind pretzeling exercises he needs to justify that "the book is always more correct than what thorough investigation, measuring and documenting evidence tells you". And it's too much effort to ignore all the things contradicting his "ideas" or "interpretations" in his own book.
@warbrain1053
@warbrain1053 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ugly_German_Truths yeah... sadly fanatism makes people blind. Even to their own religion sometimes...
@kindredspiritzz66
@kindredspiritzz66 3 жыл бұрын
I'd join that camp cept the odds of the universe, earth, or just life is so astronomically slim that it points to divine creation. This all didn't happen by accident, it's too impossible. And yes I believe in God and that the earth is 4.5 billion years old. I think errors and liberties were made in writing the Bible.
@MultiCappie
@MultiCappie 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, every time I watch one of these apologists it _even further_ reinforces atheism. In 2,000 years they still haven't found one iota of evidence supporting literally anything supernatural.
@Dead25m
@Dead25m 3 жыл бұрын
"I believe in science" *pretends that geography, archeology etc. etc. doesn't exist so the "new earth" theory fits*
@Oriaks
@Oriaks 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone who says "I believe in science" doesn't understand what science is.
@Dead25m
@Dead25m 3 жыл бұрын
@@Oriaks I mean, believing in something just means you accept that it's true. But yea, I get your sentiment.
@Coldheart322
@Coldheart322 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dead25m Some people believe by blind faith, while others believe because they have tested what they believe to some extent. If you are a geologist, and have tested previous geology theories and they all worked, and you knew the other fields of science worked in the same way, your 'belief' in those fields is justified. So while two people may accept something is true, the reason why can be vastly different.
@Dead25m
@Dead25m 3 жыл бұрын
@@Coldheart322 Agree
@anjhindul
@anjhindul 3 жыл бұрын
@@Coldheart322 Having been an Archaeologist, I can tell you the theories don't work or hold true for archaeology or geology. It literally comes down to "this rock is this age because the fossils in it are of this time period and these fossils are this age because of the rocks they are found in formed in the same time period." Yes it is an over simplification, I am skipping the "we guess this is how much radiation of this type was absorbed over this period of time, and we guess how much radioactive material this started with and we GUESS, GUESS, GUESS, GUESS" But we truly haven't been doing this science stuff long enough to KNOW anything (yes, we know a few things, like Gravity exists between all matter, still we don't know HOW or WHY...)
@youbeadumass4138
@youbeadumass4138 3 жыл бұрын
Another theist talking himself in circles: “The bible is true because it says so in the bible.” It’s painful to behold.
@dyamonde9555
@dyamonde9555 3 жыл бұрын
"For the Bible tells me so..."
@baileyduvall01
@baileyduvall01 3 жыл бұрын
@@dyamonde9555 paulogia!?
@youbeadumass4138
@youbeadumass4138 3 жыл бұрын
@I only use this account when I get put in time out 😆👍
@bootyclap69k
@bootyclap69k 3 жыл бұрын
@I only use this account when I get put in time out did you get put in time out? I assume so because of your account name
@PhilLesh69
@PhilLesh69 3 жыл бұрын
I simply tell them that I don't see any difference between an adult who believes in God and an adult who believes in Santa Claus or the Easter bunny or boogeyman hiding under their bed.
@marksoftime
@marksoftime 3 жыл бұрын
He’s been brainwashed by a fairytale. Always loved the quote from the Sherlock Holmes series: “God is a ludicrous fiction dreamt up by inadequates who abnegate all responsibility to an invisible magic friend”
@tripporch
@tripporch 3 жыл бұрын
As a progressive christian pastor in the US, I have to say how much I appreciate how generous you are to people of faith. Having followed you for sometime now I just appreciate how you refute folks based on fact and do a very good job avoiding passing judgement on their faith. Well done. Keep up the good work
@exarch404
@exarch404 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how well the story of "original sin" actually works. In the bible eating from the fruit of knowledge is explained as Adam and Eve suddenly realising they're naked. In a more modern sense, new insight makes people realise just how little they actually knew before, showing them how much they still need to learn. This naturally makes them feel very uncomfortable (like being naked). Ignorance, on the other hand, is bliss. But ignoring reality will not make it go away. Adam's journey is everyone's journey, because original sin is quite literally everyone's sin. You just have to figure out how to deal with it. That's my atheist take on the Garden of Eden story anyway. It's about growing up and becoming a well-functioning adult.
@RockinRobbins13
@RockinRobbins13 3 жыл бұрын
*Trip Porch* Unfortunately, Dan's video is a clarion call for all the knee jerk Christian haters to emerge and ignorantly attack our faith. Their argument is that talking donkeys don't exist, so therefore everything in the Bible is false. Similarly, they could argue there's no recipe for brownies in Einstein's theory of special relativity, and since it fails to account for brownies, the entire thing is rubbish. And they don't see the crass fallacy of their arguments. I can separate allegory from history, and I'm glad that you can do that too.
@ukrainium_92
@ukrainium_92 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/i36bY6SurdiekKc You should watch this it goes way better in depth on what this black guy says.
@Capy_The_Bappy
@Capy_The_Bappy 3 жыл бұрын
@@RockinRobbins13 Einstein never did talk about brownies sadly, but his second greatest idea (by his claim) does happen to be food related oddly enough!
@vicariouschism86
@vicariouschism86 3 жыл бұрын
@@RockinRobbins13 how do you decide what is or isn't allegory?
@fwdbias9099
@fwdbias9099 3 жыл бұрын
"And my final reason that I think the earth is young": because otherwise it would make my favorite book seem tiny and stupid and maybe just a fairy tale......
@HVYMETL
@HVYMETL 3 жыл бұрын
hahahahaha That is their main reason
@andrewmoss3681
@andrewmoss3681 3 жыл бұрын
The very reason I find the tale of the winged Unicorn more believable
@petyrkowalski9887
@petyrkowalski9887 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Sums it up
@yec1091
@yec1091 3 жыл бұрын
The bible is true its god word and you gonna go to hell and i couldnt be happier. God made you , for yiu to deny him is the ultimate disrespect. So shut up when you dont understand*
@odysseusrex5908
@odysseusrex5908 3 жыл бұрын
Funny, I know how old the Earth and the universe are, and that in no way diminishes the Bible in my eyes. Indeed, to me, that just makes the recorded impressions of contact with the divine, and the culminating redemption on the cross, all the grander and more impressive.
@frankdebrouwer-leiden
@frankdebrouwer-leiden 3 жыл бұрын
The guy needs a lot of words to just say: the bible says so and you should believe it. No "proof" over there.
@Z51MAELSTROM
@Z51MAELSTROM 3 жыл бұрын
Just another apologetic that claims the "6 days" is a physical and literal meaning. As in 6 human-earth relational days. You could argue the "7 days of genesis" is 7 days for god, and 1000 years per "day" relating to human time. Beyond that it quickly devolves into nonsense. It's stupid and just another "I refuse to accept science, and choose to believe a book says a thing so therefore god." They don't want to understand, they want to be simple.
@user-mf3fk3bq7f
@user-mf3fk3bq7f 3 жыл бұрын
Religion should be band. It's the root of most of the issue the world deals with.
@Araknis_Slade
@Araknis_Slade 3 жыл бұрын
Creationist argument 101: "... but muh bible..." class dismissed.
@nathangathercole6888
@nathangathercole6888 3 жыл бұрын
Me, a student of Archaeology, Geology and Ancient History, with a love of Palaeontology, "yup, clearly the Earth is 6000y old... totally not an uncountable amount of evidence of it being so much longer haha", and thats excludes all the scientific evidence we have. Sometimes I feel our collective advancements in technology and as a species as a whole is wasted with all these weird theories of the world...
@Paladwyn
@Paladwyn 3 жыл бұрын
"We like science but we reject bad science" Then goes on to use the Bible as evidence for all his claims, but also admitted that the belief in the Bible was based purely off faith. Sounds like he doesn't reject bad science, but rather rejects all information that doesn't agree with his faith.
@cutesy1631
@cutesy1631 3 жыл бұрын
Greg pascal best comment so far, but I just start scroll throw comments, haha
@Dr.Maniac
@Dr.Maniac 3 жыл бұрын
DEBATE WITSIT PSYOP MAN DAN!
@nathanmiller9918
@nathanmiller9918 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dr.Maniac Lol. Why? Dude has 7k subscribers and gets owned regularly.
@rogerwilco2
@rogerwilco2 3 жыл бұрын
He does not understand science. The core of science is that people can independently determine the facts. You don't need a book. You could destroy human civilization and all stored knowledge, but you would still be able to recreate all science.
@graealex
@graealex 2 жыл бұрын
@@rogerwilco2 That's an interesting interpretation of science. But there are a lot of sciences that do not rely on only observation. It is however true in this case. Even without humans at all, a completely external observer could look at the earth and through various scientific methods come to a close estimate for its age.
@fernbedek6302
@fernbedek6302 3 жыл бұрын
“Written like a historical account” -> ancient Greek historians wrote about armies of giant ants fighting humans. Even if they thought it was real history ancient people were bad at confirming things.
@paulcoy9060
@paulcoy9060 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, where is my big budget Hollywood movie about Hercules, Jason, Theseus, and the rest of the squad fighting giant ants??!!! I WANT THAT!!!
@wormthatturned8737
@wormthatturned8737 3 жыл бұрын
It was the Greek scholars who first wrote down the bible stories shame they missed out those ants, would have been more believable!
@ianobrien3248
@ianobrien3248 3 жыл бұрын
Hey those pygmy elephant skulls really do look like a cyclops skull, so they actually were onto something...wrong, but something.
@dlevi67
@dlevi67 3 жыл бұрын
The whole Silmarillion is written like a historical account, and in a very consistent literary style. I suppose I should start believing in elves and balrogs.
@paulcoy9060
@paulcoy9060 3 жыл бұрын
@@dlevi67 Wait, you don't ALREADY believe in elves and balrogs?? Heretic! As punishment, you will eat only maggoty bread for the next three days!
@CatsMeowPaw
@CatsMeowPaw 3 жыл бұрын
It's always weird for me how religious people talk about "believing" science. Science has delivered us fantastic discoveries and improvements in our lives. I'm using one right now: the computer. I don't need to "believe" in the science of semiconductors, or metallurgy, or plastics to use this computer and see its effects. Why is it so hard for fundamentalist Christians to do the same?
@saphired02
@saphired02 3 жыл бұрын
Because then the illusion disappears and harsh reality sets in.
@midnight8341
@midnight8341 3 жыл бұрын
Think of it as a drug. You're basically asking someone who's been using drugs their entire life to just stop getting their fix and face reality with all its consequences and responsibilities. They instinctively reject that possibility, because humans try to avoid hurtful behaviour.
@827Drew
@827Drew 3 жыл бұрын
It's not. They have them. They have cell phones. It's literally a computer. No by literally, I don't mean figuratively. They use computers left and right. Why is it not weird? They don't care. They don't even know what's in them. They dunno how it works. They don't care. It's why they think the Earth is flat. They don't care.
@xitywampas
@xitywampas 3 жыл бұрын
​@@827Drew They can't understand the world around them so they try and simplify it. They want to understand but religion is easy science is hard. Simple, stupid, human.
@Cosmic-Spanner
@Cosmic-Spanner 3 жыл бұрын
I have two answers to the "Science is faith" whining. 1) Theories don't have to be accepted as an absolute. 2) You cannot create new explanations, nor solve new problems from use of faith. And there's another point: If they are attempting to undermine science by accusing it of being a faith - they must think faith is a failed position. So they best not think about how they accepted religion.
@libertine09
@libertine09 3 жыл бұрын
love the content SciManDan, but how you manage to watch these things and respond without just wanting to slip into a coma i'll never know.
@UnexpectedDanger
@UnexpectedDanger 2 жыл бұрын
It's the cereal
@bujinnb378
@bujinnb378 3 жыл бұрын
Leviticus 19:28-"Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you" anyone wanna tell him???
@Forest_Fifer
@Forest_Fifer 3 жыл бұрын
I hope he isn't wearing mixed fabrics.
@quebeccityoliver4742
@quebeccityoliver4742 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for the word tattoo, but this will do.
@MrBiggles53
@MrBiggles53 3 жыл бұрын
Are they cultic for the dead?
@LA6UOA
@LA6UOA 3 жыл бұрын
My point exactly!
@TheRenofox
@TheRenofox 3 жыл бұрын
And I hope he eats bread made of human feces. Not cooked on human feces like some apologists try to claim, but really made OF human feces like the original, infallible Hebrew explicitly commands!
@andyr5579
@andyr5579 3 жыл бұрын
His “proof” all relies on you having faith in the bible. Flawed from the very start.
@pratikparmar8709
@pratikparmar8709 3 жыл бұрын
" I reject bad science " no mr pastor, you reject only bits of science which contradict with your religion
@freddan6fly
@freddan6fly 3 жыл бұрын
He rejects at least: Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Geology, Engineering, Logistics, Anthropology, Archeology, History, Mathematics and more. So yeah "I love science". Not much left.
@midnight8341
@midnight8341 3 жыл бұрын
So, basically most of it?
@joshuapray
@joshuapray 3 жыл бұрын
@@freddan6fly Precisely. I was left wondering what science he accepts.
@wraitholme
@wraitholme 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's pretty obvious that mr pastor doesn't have the faintest clue what science is.
@AstrosElectronicsLab
@AstrosElectronicsLab 3 жыл бұрын
@@midnight8341 pretty much all of it, so, there's that...
@maltesefalconpunch2804
@maltesefalconpunch2804 3 жыл бұрын
"Death didnt exist and everything was vegetarian." Plants die when you eat them, hoss.
@jim.h
@jim.h 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe we just ate the fruit and vegetables that sprouted from the plants?? All except for the fruit from the one magic tree that was off limits. God knew Adam and Eve would sin but still made the magic tree and Satan? Makes perfect sense to me!
@maltesefalconpunch2804
@maltesefalconpunch2804 3 жыл бұрын
@@jim.h Well then you're just aborting plant fetuses and eating them. I'm gonna run this down as far as I need to :-P
@nicholash4683
@nicholash4683 3 жыл бұрын
@@maltesefalconpunch2804 hey sorry but the seeds would be the fetuses not the fruit itself but im not gonna argue . But the fruit itself is like the leftover food from the tree after it does photosynthesis so unless the picked it from the tree (which they do) it shouldnt hurt nor kill the tree
@maltesefalconpunch2804
@maltesefalconpunch2804 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholash4683 Nah you're right though
@TheWoollyFrog
@TheWoollyFrog 3 жыл бұрын
@@jim.h And then they died from diarrhea.
@scarfhs1
@scarfhs1 3 жыл бұрын
"We must simply stand on God's word" To me this sounds like "We must reject any evidence to the contrary and mindlessly accept what the Bible says".
@fusola9612
@fusola9612 3 жыл бұрын
Really? Are u sure that's it what it means...? *sceptically rising eyebrow *sarcastic subtone in this question
@xitywampas
@xitywampas 3 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what he means.
@scarfhs1
@scarfhs1 3 жыл бұрын
@@fusola9612 Yes I am certain that is what it means. If you check their channel you will see them use the same method of ignoring real evidence in favour of what the Bible says. Here is an example kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWarlGCuid2GiZo
@fusola9612
@fusola9612 3 жыл бұрын
@@scarfhs1 srsly? -_- did you fell for that or are you just beeing friendly? :)
@rickc2102
@rickc2102 3 жыл бұрын
@@fusola9612 is apparently an eight year old and really wants attention
@Murdorch
@Murdorch 3 жыл бұрын
So basically he believes in the young Earth, because otherwise the Bible wouldn't be literal. Great evidence. I'm now a flerfer.
@Naptosis
@Naptosis 3 жыл бұрын
It's insane. Centuries ago, the original trunks of Christianity came to the conclusion that the bible couldn't be literal, yet these (mostly American) evangelicals feel like they understand better than anyone - despite the evidence.
@stephenlitten1789
@stephenlitten1789 3 жыл бұрын
And I'm breeding unicorns
@handsolo1209
@handsolo1209 3 жыл бұрын
His literal adherence to the bible means he is in favour of slavery.
@Murdorch
@Murdorch 3 жыл бұрын
@@handsolo1209 well yeah but it's the good form of slavery/indentured servitude..! /s
@cutesy1631
@cutesy1631 3 жыл бұрын
Murdorch im just convert now. hahah
@Dalonghair
@Dalonghair 3 жыл бұрын
Are we going to ignore the fact that Matt Powell Official _still_ has a giant inflatable banana named Dr. Peel held captive in his backyard?
@CausingChaos.
@CausingChaos. 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@andybrace9225
@andybrace9225 3 жыл бұрын
Free the yellow one!
@AstrosElectronicsLab
@AstrosElectronicsLab 3 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the giant inflatable fella
@pureflix8086
@pureflix8086 3 жыл бұрын
No. I feel it's an issue that _must_ be addressed NOW. Think of the children!! 😬
@slovnicurling9808
@slovnicurling9808 3 жыл бұрын
Yes becaue it's lame and childish.
@terryboot7777
@terryboot7777 3 жыл бұрын
"Religion poisons everything." Christopher Hitchens.
@Ithaca-vv5dy
@Ithaca-vv5dy 3 жыл бұрын
Damn right
@fromagefrizzbizz9377
@fromagefrizzbizz9377 3 жыл бұрын
One of the things I've found most fascinating, is some of the writings of St. Augustine (ca 1500 years ago) [And BTW: I'm not Christian, let alone Catholic] He recounted trying to teach Genesis to his students, and found to his dismay that his students would wrap him in knots trying to explain the discrepancies and inconsistencies (yes there are many), and decided the only way he could teach it was to treat it as metaphor. He wrote several books on the basic theme to the effect of "if a literal interpretation of the bible runs into conflict with the knowledge and experience of experts (he's referring to "experts" in as diverse fields as farming or astronomy), it should be treated as metaphor, not fact EVEN IF the experts are infidels". For to do otherwise "discredits the church, makes us look like idiots, and is counter-productive to our mandate of saving souls". In other words, if the church believes otherwise from what demonstrable evidence shows, how can we appear credible to people we're expecting to trust their "immortal souls" to. This caused somewhat of an upheaval, with the Catholic church becoming by-and-large supportive of science. One could point at Giordano or Galileo as exceptions, but in Bruno's case he was denying basic fundamental doctrine and declaring himself a god. As for Galileo he was a wise-ass who continued to insult powerful people (including the Pope). The theological objections to his work were very minor, and were accepted by Galileo. Meanwhile, Copernicus' book caused no significant theological upheaval, just a vigorous debate on the merits of his work (by Tycho Brahe and other contemporaries).
@diha6747
@diha6747 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever the topic of a young earth comes up, a friend of mine tells his story about an expedition in Iran where he worked as a guide. They found a village, that was about 6000 years old and in this village, they found an archeological museum.
@AstrosElectronicsLab
@AstrosElectronicsLab 3 жыл бұрын
Took me a second to get that. Very good.
@CaptainCalculus
@CaptainCalculus 3 жыл бұрын
So his argument is: The Bible is right, because it says so in the Bible, and the Bible is right because it's written nice.
@fusola9612
@fusola9612 3 жыл бұрын
no, "because it is written right" not 'written nice' ;) :D
@ravenvalentine4919
@ravenvalentine4919 3 жыл бұрын
@@fusola9612 but nether written nice or right and anyone that has no bias can point out the obvious
@fusola9612
@fusola9612 3 жыл бұрын
@@ravenvalentine4919 True
@MegaloTnt
@MegaloTnt 3 жыл бұрын
Well my science book is also written well, so why isn't that one right
@ianmacfarlane1241
@ianmacfarlane1241 3 жыл бұрын
@Captain Calculus If you get a children's Bible you'll get nice pictures too.
@thajarin
@thajarin 3 жыл бұрын
I love how his "proof" relies on first accepting the Bible as a literal fact, and then is based entirely on the bible... Maybe he has never heard of circular reasoning, or begging the question.
@graealex
@graealex 2 жыл бұрын
That's always the argument, and it always becomes circular: God put all the evidence there so that it looks the way that science can deduct from it. Obviously you cannot provide proof about an omnipotent being not having made everything. Omnipotent literally means that it has not to follow any laws. Thus you will always go in circles. Interestingly, one consequence of that is that you really can't proof the non-existence of such a being, and we could literally live on a 6000 year old planet. It really, really all depends on whether you want to believe in such a being, and if you do, then the earth can as well be 6000 years old. And then the Bible might be the actual best proof, because you need to believe everything else to be fake.
@dentheman1797
@dentheman1797 3 жыл бұрын
9:50 “Millions, if not… thousands” Scott Evil: “A million is more than a thousand, numbnuts…”
@xX-qw4of
@xX-qw4of 3 жыл бұрын
he caught himself saying it would've taken place over more than a few thousand years and tried to correct it
@AstrosElectronicsLab
@AstrosElectronicsLab 3 жыл бұрын
@@xX-qw4of and failed, because he could have edited it out... like all his other jump cuts...
@RockinRobbins13
@RockinRobbins13 3 жыл бұрын
But it's brilliant! You have to admire such feckless imagination.
@TheMoulie
@TheMoulie 3 жыл бұрын
🤣👍
@oobaka1967
@oobaka1967 3 жыл бұрын
I think he meant millions of deaths / thousands of years of deaths.
@grrsss8335
@grrsss8335 3 жыл бұрын
I once talked to a fundamentalist. then I talked to a wall. guess which conversation was less frustrating.
@PercivalBlakeney
@PercivalBlakeney 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna guess that wall refused to listen, kept talking over you and just had to be "right". Oh wait... 🤔
@AndrewHalliwell
@AndrewHalliwell 3 жыл бұрын
Praying to God's like banging your head against a brick wall only less productive. For one thing, that wall hurts and teaches you to stop doing it.
@PercivalBlakeney
@PercivalBlakeney 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewHalliwell I wouldn't go that far. "[God] grants us strength, not taxicabs." - Stephen King. Speaking from personal experience, praying for a lottery win is less than productive, praying for the gumption to get up and get on with my day has never, at least, made anything any worse. Points to consider &c. 😌
@rutessian
@rutessian 3 жыл бұрын
Unless one is a moron, talking to oneself is the only way to be assured of intelligent conversation.
@AstrosElectronicsLab
@AstrosElectronicsLab 3 жыл бұрын
Oh! Oh! I know! The girl at the pub?
@MaterLacrymarum
@MaterLacrymarum 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as anyone says, "I believe the literal Bible", then the conversation stops for me. You're addressing someone who believes in talking snakes, a super hero who can part the sea on command, a chat with a burning bush, and a young Earth. It's a madness. I can forgive those earlier people who didn't know better and these things seemed somewhat plausible, but in 2021? No. They're deranged, and common sense, data, and evidence means nothing to them.
@blacktoothfox677
@blacktoothfox677 3 жыл бұрын
ah just so long as they keep it to themselves they can believe whatever nonsense they like. Great name btw... The Drowned World is my favourite
@MaterLacrymarum
@MaterLacrymarum 3 жыл бұрын
@@blacktoothfox677 Oh, Crash is my favorite. But honestly, all of his early works are first rate. The hardback of the Complete Short Stories is always on my coffee table, and amazing thing. As you say, what people keep to themselves, well they can believe the Moon is made of cheese. But if you're in conversation about the reality we all live in, you might as well not bother. These devout people have given up reason.
@dogwalker666
@dogwalker666 3 жыл бұрын
Hey that's Harry Potter you are talking about.
@midnight8341
@midnight8341 3 жыл бұрын
@@blacktoothfox677 but they never do, the moment they start preaching to their children or taking them to church, they push their delusions on them, raising the next generation of individuals who are completely disconnected from reality.
@Jan_Koopman
@Jan_Koopman 3 жыл бұрын
Not trying to defend the claim, but Moses didn't split the sea, God did it for him.
@chbu7081
@chbu7081 3 жыл бұрын
The 'The Star Trek Chronology: The History of the Future' book is written in a historical narrative, and theres a lot more and correct science in that than there is in the Bible.
@audiotyresup
@audiotyresup 3 жыл бұрын
That was kind of one of the points of Star Trek, scientific accuracy.
@ivanpetrov5255
@ivanpetrov5255 3 жыл бұрын
Death is good - my favorite example is the wolves in Yellowstone. People killed all the wolves there, as a result, the deer were eating young plants, with lead to the erosion of river banks. The lack of vegetation meant no roots to hold the soil. Once wolves were reintroduced in the park, thing started to normalize.
@MojoIglesias
@MojoIglesias 3 жыл бұрын
Serengeti rules
@evorock
@evorock 3 жыл бұрын
I've used that video in my year 10 lessons. It's brilliant
@GG-gt5ot
@GG-gt5ot 3 жыл бұрын
Adam's sin was to eat a piece of fruit, how is that a defence of vegetarianism.
@simond.455
@simond.455 3 жыл бұрын
He should have eaten the snake. 😆
@tomee6684
@tomee6684 3 жыл бұрын
@@simond.455, 😂
@RustyWalker
@RustyWalker 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomee6684 With apple sauce.
@joshuapray
@joshuapray 3 жыл бұрын
There's always been the subtext that his actual sin was trusting a woman.
@MrBizteck
@MrBizteck 3 жыл бұрын
@@simond.455 The snake looked bloody stupid with legs anyway.
@martincross7016
@martincross7016 3 жыл бұрын
"people were vegetarians back then" I swear I heard jesus christ lord almighy gave away 4000 free fish butties at that multitudes gig. 🤔
@evorock
@evorock 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
@Maerahn
@Maerahn 3 жыл бұрын
And I bet all those lambs and calves that got sacrificed in the name of The Lord were PISSED when they realised humans were vegetarian all along!
@evorock
@evorock 3 жыл бұрын
@@Maerahn all that tasty meat going to waste 😭😭😭😭😭
@sophierobinson2738
@sophierobinson2738 3 жыл бұрын
Evolution Rocks Nah, man, the priests are it after everyone was gone.
@evorock
@evorock 3 жыл бұрын
@@sophierobinson2738 greedy buggers 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@chriswinchell1570
@chriswinchell1570 3 жыл бұрын
I never understood why an omnipotent being takes 6 days. Couldn’t he do it instantaneously? And then he rested? Because it’s hard work for a deity?
@benjammin9471
@benjammin9471 3 жыл бұрын
I also never understood why it took so long to make the earth, the sun and the moon and then he apparently made the billions of other stars and galaxies inno time at all
@TheOneTonHammer
@TheOneTonHammer 3 жыл бұрын
How can you define a “day” when, at the time, the sun and earth didn’t exist?
@AstrosElectronicsLab
@AstrosElectronicsLab 3 жыл бұрын
You can't...
@slovnicurling9808
@slovnicurling9808 3 жыл бұрын
just keep tracking time on your applewatch obviously
@jakewilner9237
@jakewilner9237 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing this guy insists that genesis is a literal historic account, when it isn't even internally logically consistent. It isn't possible to have an evening/morning defined' day' when the sun hasn't been invented yet.
@roichir7699
@roichir7699 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakewilner9237 SyntaxError: Missing variable sun
@ANOKATA
@ANOKATA 3 жыл бұрын
In the Torah a day is defined after the earth and sky creation. And without specifique time . ( may be the light was created second or billion years later it is not my point here to compare science and religion) G created light and after seeing that light was "good" so G make distinction bettween light and dark so G called light a day (daylight) and dark the night YOM is a day = the both day + night but again no real metrics is used so impossible to say that a day = 24h at this time. lets call that just a biblic days and fuck ^^ So even in france i don't know religious ppl saying : earth is 6000 years.. We can maybe (it is limit) say earth is aged of 6000 biblique years but that all The conclusion : science is science : religion is religion Dumb are invasive in youtub and your question is not even a good question ! i know what you tried to say but plz before denying someone knoledge, study the subject
@dwightgaston6079
@dwightgaston6079 3 жыл бұрын
For God so Loved the World that He invented Hell and eternal torture for the ungrateful bastards who did not love Him back.
@donanders2110
@donanders2110 3 жыл бұрын
Also, for people that may have never heard of him. Just ask missionaries!
@mcross320
@mcross320 3 жыл бұрын
Every word that was written pretending "GOD" had human qualities, thoughts, emotions but without our human ego make me want to puke!
@dianayu4453
@dianayu4453 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer an old fashioned hell with flames and torture to eternity spent with religious fundamentalists anyway.
@mcross320
@mcross320 3 жыл бұрын
@@dianayu4453 Only "they" may not end up exactly where they think they should be! I believe one of Jesus's strongest imperatives is to love your brother as yourself and they hate everybody who isn't just like them! I love a simple, logical description of Hell as "Separation from Thee"
@waffles9771
@waffles9771 3 жыл бұрын
seems like a cult to me
@shahgyy
@shahgyy 3 жыл бұрын
He is disproving his whole way of thinking and he doesn't even realize it
@davidmccarthy6061
@davidmccarthy6061 3 жыл бұрын
He can't, he's on their sales team.
@jacobiwolf77
@jacobiwolf77 3 жыл бұрын
Hang on, that sounds like what a flat earther does
@JoseFernandes-js7ep
@JoseFernandes-js7ep 3 жыл бұрын
He is doing the reasoning but he is afraid to jump for the conclusion.
@hellmouthisnogod1952
@hellmouthisnogod1952 3 жыл бұрын
"Jesus cites Abraham, Adam. ...." is like saying "Harry Potter cites Gandalf the Grey, Don Quijote and Lohengrin."
@Achie79
@Achie79 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Jesus was a historical person. Harry Potter is pure fiction.
@hellmouthisnogod1952
@hellmouthisnogod1952 3 жыл бұрын
@@Achie79 Do you have any evidence for anybody other than the unknown authors of the gospels centuries later who claims to have known Jesus? I think he was born in the second year year that the bible claims - the year when every citizen of the Roman Empire had to travel to the home of his ancestor in paternal line 1000 years ago: it never happened - and that is as true as the birth of a Jesus guy who fulfilled the prophecy to be born 600 years earlier and be named Emanuel.
@Achie79
@Achie79 3 жыл бұрын
@@hellmouthisnogod1952 What about Tacticus or Josephus?
@RichardServello
@RichardServello 3 жыл бұрын
We shouldn’t twist “gods” word to fit man’s word….said the man that is quoting mans word to pretend to be “god”
@bsadewitz
@bsadewitz 3 жыл бұрын
Sentific theory takes precedence regarding the natural world. He has it backwards. The honest thing to do is simply to admit that they are ( seemingly) incompatible. It isn't faith if you can justify belief in it. This is more or less what actual scientists who are also religious have told me when I've asked about it.
@dashriprock9014
@dashriprock9014 3 жыл бұрын
People have been twisting the words in the bible to suit their own self serving agendas for millennia.
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384 3 жыл бұрын
I know there’s more than I can see or feel. But I know physics explains everything I see and feel.
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384 3 жыл бұрын
@@dashriprock9014 I know there’s more than I can see or feel. But I know physics explains everything I see and feel.
@HesselFolkertsma
@HesselFolkertsma 3 жыл бұрын
So basically: “X is real, because X tells us so”. Not gonna cut it.
@stinkwink695
@stinkwink695 3 жыл бұрын
@I only use this account when I get put in time out He would have to write it down and then write "everything written here is true" then have it translated, changed, rewritten 1000 times, murder millions who dont believe it, then and only then does he go free innocent of murder.
@narke2667
@narke2667 3 жыл бұрын
"Earth is 4.5 billion years old because evidence has told us so. "
@khill8645
@khill8645 3 жыл бұрын
And it's an obvious, blatant case of special pleading -- he certainly wouldn't give the Qur'an, the Bhagavad Gita, or the Prose Edda the same "I'll believe it with no outside evidence" treatment.
@dragonhealer7588
@dragonhealer7588 3 жыл бұрын
@@khill8645 Believe me, this one really would! Had he been brought up in those cultures.
@dragonhealer7588
@dragonhealer7588 3 жыл бұрын
@Honudes Gai Um, actually, some claims in the Bible can, and have been tested. Oh, most failed, bible got it wrong.
@GargamelGold
@GargamelGold 3 жыл бұрын
SciManDan, Why am I not surprised that his “proof” is basically “because the Bible tells me so?”
@tzenophile
@tzenophile 3 жыл бұрын
The problem isn't him, the problem are all those religious nuts who "are happy with evolution"; they are the ones suffering cognitive dissonance. This guy may be wrong but he is consistent.
@John_Smith_60
@John_Smith_60 3 жыл бұрын
@@tzenophile This (meaning me) "religious nut" can prove, without a shadow of doubt, evolution happens. Can you prove, without a shadow of doubt, that God doesn't exist? Hint: If you say "yes," then I can, also without a shadow of doubt, ignore you because you are lying.
@tzenophile
@tzenophile 3 жыл бұрын
@@John_Smith_60 I would not dream of saying that I can prove a negative. It is impossible to prove, scientifically, that something does not exist. But if I had said yes, I would not have been lying, simply deluded and incompetent. I don't believe you are lying when you say that god exists. The reason evolution is such a strong theory today is because CD overcame his religious qualms and the social pressure from the religious people around him and finally decided to publish his book.
@John_Smith_60
@John_Smith_60 3 жыл бұрын
@@tzenophile And yet you say I suffer cognitive dissonance because I believe in God while accepting evolution, but you have nothing to say to the atheist who insists there absolutely is no God while they cannot have absolute proof that there is no God (and also claim their atheism isn't a religion while believing, without proof, that there is no God).
@tzenophile
@tzenophile 3 жыл бұрын
@@John_Smith_60 Why, I would say exactly the same thing: You can't prove a negative. (I believe foolish atheists exist, even though atheists are smarter than the average person.) Denying the existence of someone else's claimed god is not a religion by any stretch of a definition, at least not in itself. I believe that there is no ice cream in my freezer right now, and that is not a religious belief. Neither do I believe that a) someone walked on water in or around 33 A.D., nor do I believe that b) someone is walking on water right now. Is a) religious and b) not religious? You seem to have a misconception of belief as the same as religious belief.
@frescopino7866
@frescopino7866 3 жыл бұрын
"I find it hard to believe that death is very good" Well Yaweh doesn't. Yahew considers it so very good.
@ycampbell7672
@ycampbell7672 3 жыл бұрын
I love how he tries to bring in the Hebrew word for day, mispronounces it, and then claims to understand its meaning better than the very people who speak/spoke the language. There are many Rabbis going back over a thousand years who did not take "Yom" in Genesis to mean a literal day.
@dogwalker666
@dogwalker666 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that thanks for confirming it.
@joshuapray
@joshuapray 3 жыл бұрын
He is clearly just parroting some bullshit he heard from someone he knows who went to seminary. My dad was a preacher and used to try to make these psuedo-linguistic arguments all the time. It's so transparent and so inaccurate every time. The beauty of being a church leader who tells Christians things is that Christians are trained never to question religious authority, so this nonsense will just get repeated and repeated for decades to come without a single one of them taking the time to look into it or actually learn Hebrew.
@Vishanti
@Vishanti 3 жыл бұрын
This. I know for a fact if this guy even bothered reading the Talmud, Mishnah, or any other Jewish writings he'd just say "well those aren't the Bible so I don't take those with the same weight." 🙄
@beijingbond
@beijingbond 3 жыл бұрын
By the Book Ministries: "According to the Bible..." Jenny: "I'm out!"
@an.d.m.a
@an.d.m.a 3 жыл бұрын
"As a Christian, I love science. We reject bad science." No, they reject all science that disproves their bible nonsense.
@ulodetero
@ulodetero 3 жыл бұрын
@@an.d.m.a That's why they call it "bad science".
@an.d.m.a
@an.d.m.a 3 жыл бұрын
@@ulodetero because it's bad at helping them believe fairytales? The rest of us call that good science 🙂
@jjphank
@jjphank 3 жыл бұрын
Newsflash: Bible is so scientifically profound in the first two chapters explaining what atheists cannot; how matter and energy got here and how the second law, entropy got here! You atheists still don’t know so you have to start in the middle after matter and energy got here that’s not much of a theory of evolution if you cannot explain the origin! A big bang (any explosion we’ve ever witnessed) causes demolition and destruction and not order and sophistication!
@beijingbond
@beijingbond 3 жыл бұрын
@@jjphank Yeah. Right. Thanks.
@Thinchap
@Thinchap 3 жыл бұрын
This guy cites Leviticus in his rantings, which clearly forbids marking one's body. Guy can't be much of a biblical literalist as he's gladly displaying his ink. what does the bible say about hypocrites?
@mesonparticle
@mesonparticle 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite one!! ❤️❤️
@rickc2102
@rickc2102 3 жыл бұрын
Does it say that Christians are hypocrites, but that's ok because NeW cOvEnAnT! 🤭
@TH3BLU333
@TH3BLU333 3 жыл бұрын
Gottem
@tjhorsegirl
@tjhorsegirl 3 жыл бұрын
Proof that they love to pick and choose which parts of the bible they will follow by the letter.
@EdwardHowton
@EdwardHowton 3 жыл бұрын
"That's the old testament, we don't follow that anymore"(tm) And yes I'm fully aware of the problem with that. _They_ aren't.
@mrhippo2874
@mrhippo2874 3 жыл бұрын
I once had a coworker (who was a missionary) tell me that the Israelites were incapable of using metaphors. I was too dumbfounded to laugh in his face.
@danielmarkiewicz8489
@danielmarkiewicz8489 3 жыл бұрын
what it mean: "believe in science"? belief is not knowledge. if i know something i dont need to believe in it. i just know. two things that are not connected
@NoName-fc3xe
@NoName-fc3xe 3 жыл бұрын
That's not necessarily true, although I agree with the sentiment. Knowledge is a subset of belief.
@archivist17
@archivist17 3 жыл бұрын
Small correction: YECs don't refute the age of the earth, they deny it.
@derekcouzens9483
@derekcouzens9483 3 жыл бұрын
REFUTE has two uses: DISPROVE and DENY. So SciManDan could be correct if he uses in sense deny.
@archivist17
@archivist17 3 жыл бұрын
@@derekcouzens9483 This is a point at which ambiguity is unhelpful.
@dragonhealer7588
@dragonhealer7588 3 жыл бұрын
@@derekcouzens9483 Yes, English is fun that way.
@Jayk129
@Jayk129 3 жыл бұрын
I went to “Old Earth Camp”. It was a blast, we made s’mores, sang songs, rode horses, looked at ancient geological formations, and unlike those other youths at church camp felt absolutely no shame or guilt when we discovered fingering.
@fusola9612
@fusola9612 3 жыл бұрын
Wait... by "fingering" you mean a tribal/native method of painting walls do you?
@fusola9612
@fusola9612 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sableagle Ah... thx for clarifying
@Jayk129
@Jayk129 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sableagle well TECHNICALLY I meant the technique for making a guitar play certain chords, but basically right. 😜
@Jayk129
@Jayk129 3 жыл бұрын
@@fusola9612 uhm, yeah…. That’s, ah.. totally what I meant. 😉
@fusola9612
@fusola9612 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jayk129 we do understand each other we do understand... :)
@GeeVanderplas
@GeeVanderplas 3 жыл бұрын
It's quite ironic then, that Genesis chapter 1 is actually written as a poem, not an historical narrative text at all. But you can't expect these people to actually know about the bible that deeply of course...
@PeterScrimshaw1
@PeterScrimshaw1 3 жыл бұрын
Tom & Jerry has a consistent writing style too, so I guess that must also be historical fact !!! 🤣🤣🤣
@ComradeJehannum
@ComradeJehannum 3 жыл бұрын
Lord of the Rings has a better plot.
@someaccount3438
@someaccount3438 3 жыл бұрын
"The unicorn saw that this was good" is a fantastic line!
@Angel-nl1hp
@Angel-nl1hp 3 жыл бұрын
I have to know though, was the unicorn both invisible and pink?
@yourguard4
@yourguard4 3 жыл бұрын
A unicorn cant be bad science :)
@nicholass3964
@nicholass3964 3 жыл бұрын
This appears to be another of those instances when Christians cherry pick Bible passages to suit their narrative. If the Book is true, and to be believed as God's word then why does the pastor ignore Leviticus 19:28 and display tatoos on his body ? Looks like it's hell and eternal damnation for you Pastor Fred!
@MuttFitness
@MuttFitness 3 жыл бұрын
Oopsie!
@KarMicFox11
@KarMicFox11 3 жыл бұрын
May of had them before he turned Christian.
@clee8768
@clee8768 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Christian, and don't care for tattoos. Do I think it's a sin? Not necessarily. This section was also discussing animal sacrifice and other such things that were common in the time period in other religions and cultures that they were not to partake of. Does that apply today? Probably not. As for this guy, I believe he is wrong about the creation chapters being a part of Genesis that can be taken literally. The first chapters are pretty clearly allegorical and are told to the people at the time in story form to pass down just as other cultures of the time did. Also, the creation story is actually told twice in the first two chapters. So, no it isn't literal. It is intended to display the power of God to a fallen people. Do I believe in young earth? No, but I believe it could be possible that God created it in a state that it is that billions of years old, or more likely created it that long ago and the Biblical story began 6,000 years ago. Is it a salvation issue? No.
@MuttFitness
@MuttFitness 3 жыл бұрын
@@clee8768 i think the point that if the guy wants the Bible to be literal, then he has to take it as literal. So by that logic tattoos are a sin and slavery is okay, etc.
@clee8768
@clee8768 3 жыл бұрын
@@MuttFitness Well maybe so. But he is wrong on that account. There are books that are allegorical, poetry, historical narrative etc. I can believe it is all true and it not be literal. It is an all encompassing story composed of many different and diverse works. Also, the tattoo part was written to a specific culture at a specific time. It can apply to them and not to me. I believe in the Bible, but it has to be understood in context of the cultures when it was written. I also believe that the Bible does not contradict science and they can coexist. If God created the universe why would science contradict his own creation? Anyway, I have issues with parts of what he says, I think Dan is wrong on some aspects due to my beliefs, but also right to criticize a lot what this guy is saying on this particular topic.
@soopafamicom
@soopafamicom 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone who says 'ax' instead of 'ask' is immediately a dribbling cabbage.
@renejean2523
@renejean2523 3 жыл бұрын
lol Dribbling cabbage.
@bct8881
@bct8881 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing we have "lost" is our parent's delusions.
@johnstauffer6249
@johnstauffer6249 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right
@Connection-Lost
@Connection-Lost 3 жыл бұрын
Every religion is a cult that is randomly assigned to you based on your place and era of birth. The only wrong move is to accept it blindly.
@bct8881
@bct8881 3 жыл бұрын
@G.A.P. Well said. I have thought for many years now that childhood religious indoctrination is a human rights violation. Once installed,godware can never be fully uninstalled.
@jaapuitroepteke2750
@jaapuitroepteke2750 3 жыл бұрын
Whoa whoa, my parents aren’t religious. Even my grandma has doubts whilst she’s been raised with the bible, and back then her parents didn’t even take it to serious (going to church and praying etc)
@karlwhite2733
@karlwhite2733 3 жыл бұрын
My 9yr old listened to this with me. He laughed and said: What the heck is this guy (xtian) talking about? This makes no sense.
@astrosci8864
@astrosci8864 3 жыл бұрын
Hopeful...
@Jack-we7no
@Jack-we7no 3 жыл бұрын
A good chap, keep him well informed😄
@buckhorncortez
@buckhorncortez 3 жыл бұрын
Uh...huh and your 9-year-old would probably say the same thing about a Feynman physics lecture. Using the comprehension level of a 9-year-old isn't very convincing "proof" of something making sense of not.
@astrosci8864
@astrosci8864 3 жыл бұрын
@@buckhorncortez Well. Yes and no. It depends. I think that a 9-year old can indeed comprehend the reasoning behind a globe Earth or the basics of the Solar System. Of course, a Feynman lecture is a little over a child's head, but not if the child is introduced to reasoning and critical thinking early on. The child will eventually be able to comprehend given time.
@bokunochinchinwachiisai6851
@bokunochinchinwachiisai6851 3 жыл бұрын
"People die when they are killed" "If everyone is rich,then nobody is broke" "The floor is made of floor" "The world is 6000 y/o because I read it in a book"
@PhilLesh69
@PhilLesh69 3 жыл бұрын
The dirty little secret is that everyone says they have read the bible, but only people in prisons actually sit down and read, as in page one all the way to the end. Everyone else is working from hearsay or they've read perhaps a few select pages from a few key chapters.
@celeroon89
@celeroon89 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@diha6747
@diha6747 3 жыл бұрын
@@PhilLesh69 That's not the case. I read the Bible ... and that is the reason why I am an atheist.
@Tryyton
@Tryyton 3 жыл бұрын
The floor is made of floor? 🤨😱 @DiHa 67 same here. I would also bet, that most atheists actually read the bible or at least most of it.
@norcodaev
@norcodaev 3 жыл бұрын
“My legs are the exact perfect length to reach the ground”, hence god did it!
@SuperDantedmc
@SuperDantedmc 2 жыл бұрын
I love how every time I refresh my home page another video of yours is at the top and its always one I havent seen before :O
@goreil2489
@goreil2489 3 жыл бұрын
He sounds like a nice bloke, but he’s deluded to the max, sadly being a pastor, he’s paid for it
@EdwardHowton
@EdwardHowton 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Cullen and George sounded nice too. M-O-O-N, that spells rabbits.
@MrExcessum
@MrExcessum 3 жыл бұрын
Thays why indoctrination should be punishable by law. When a person doesnt know any better, they ll go along with bullshit fairy tales. No religious teachings to underage people.
@goreil2489
@goreil2489 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrExcessum I totally agree with you, I wasted a lot of my youth in a cult style upbringing. So deluded, but had to wait till I was of age to get out
@AProudDad
@AProudDad 3 жыл бұрын
The Christian friends of mine I consider the most sincere are the ones who when it comes down to it just say to me, "yeah I believe it on faith there's really no debate we could have here." They respect me as an adult and don't believe I'm just some idiot who never gave religion a second thought, and I leave them to their chosen faith. Those are my friends anyway...
@bsadewitz
@bsadewitz 3 жыл бұрын
I will repost what I just typed in the main thread: I have spoken to an Orthodox Jew who is a scientist (studies congenital malformations of the head and neck) about this. No doubt there are many different views, but what he told me is that religious beliefs simply don't have a place as such in his activities as a scientist. The onus, he said, is on him to figure out a way to reconcile them--or not. In his activities as a scientist, he deals with scientific theory. Faith is belief in something even if it seems completely absurd (Kierkegaard wrote on this). Indeed, this is what the parable of Abraham and Isaac is about. Abraham prepared to sacrifice his only son despite God's promise that his decedents would be fruitful and multiply and all that. Had God lied to him? Eventually, that ram appears and he sacrifices that instead and all that, yada yada. It is possible to hold seemingly contradictory beliefs. After all, the contradiction may be resolved at some time in the future, or some other thing that is beyond him at the time might be the case. How? Who knows! It isn't faith if you rely on empirical evidence to justify it! You don't get to reinterpret science in light of the bible. The domain of science is the natural world, period.
@AProudDad
@AProudDad 3 жыл бұрын
@@bsadewitz I agree with you but I'm not sure why you're responding to me specifically.
@Cheepchipsable
@Cheepchipsable 3 жыл бұрын
@@bsadewitz Ironically, many early scientific discoveries came from religious people, I suppose because they were the only one with the time on their hands to examine and think about these things. Problem with Islam is that the manipulation of numbers is considered evil by some cleric many years ago, which is probably why those societies stagnated.
@Cheepchipsable
@Cheepchipsable 3 жыл бұрын
That's what happens in a civil society. I know plenty of good people who are nut bag Xtians, Harry Potter is evil etc, but they don't evangelise. I think we recognise that so never bother to discuss it. The unfortunate truth is that when one group has a majority, they will do their utmost to foist those rules on others, even though they preach live an let live now.
@foppishdilletaunt9911
@foppishdilletaunt9911 3 жыл бұрын
II find YECs endlessly amusing. Crocodiles are not the only things that live in denial.
@muninrob
@muninrob 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, gotta remember the Hippos - even more dangerous than the crocs ;-P
@andrewschaeffer8147
@andrewschaeffer8147 3 жыл бұрын
Let me get this straight. There were three whole literal evenings and mornings before the creation of the sun on the fourth day
@DocBree13
@DocBree13 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! 24-hour days and light both existed before the sun ;)
@mleise8292
@mleise8292 3 жыл бұрын
Ironic, how "bad science" always means "I reject science that disagrees with my beliefs", which is precisely how "good science" does _not_ work.
@Julmaa87
@Julmaa87 3 жыл бұрын
How to prove something is true: "It's written in the bible"
@robertt9342
@robertt9342 3 жыл бұрын
And all those literal historical writings in bible are all true... Including the contradictory stuff.
@TheWabbler
@TheWabbler 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertt9342 especially the contradictory stuff!
@MaxxJagX
@MaxxJagX 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertt9342 Not sure Genesis CAN be literally historical as it assumes either God wrote the Bible, or someone was there to witness it and write about it. Can't be two because humans weren't the first to be created so, first? And if the first, that kinda gets nullified by the contradictory stuff because as well all know, God doesn't make mistakes....
@peterdobson3435
@peterdobson3435 3 жыл бұрын
I agree...that's not a good way to do that.
@Julmaa87
@Julmaa87 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaxxJagX There's plenty of common sense around to determine that god does not exist. I'm waiting to see proof that this magic fairy exists.
@MrDana93
@MrDana93 3 жыл бұрын
I’m confused. He literally spelt it out for himself but still didn’t see the flaws?
@supercloudreed
@supercloudreed 3 жыл бұрын
i know, at the part he say there was no death before the sin. there was no way for people to be birth as well. it was after the sin that GOD let the two make kids as part of the sin.
@omegatired
@omegatired 2 жыл бұрын
Somewhere in there is the concept of "a thousand years is as a day" which led to a lot of people thinking the world would end in 2000AD or thereabouts with the "on the third day I will return" thang. I love how believers like this man essentially deny that an all powerful deity is capable of doing the billions of years thing ... OK, he derailed ... completely. Me, I'm agnostic. I don't know, and I'm not sure I care.
@DocFear
@DocFear 3 жыл бұрын
His "proofs" were literally the most metaphorical parts of the bible...
@ninjabothandyman6063
@ninjabothandyman6063 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my dayz it's my favorite science man, SciMan Dan !!! Love everything your doing bro, please continue keeping up all the great work Dan and NEVER EVER STOP mate !! Much love from Salt Lake City, Utah !!!!
@themaintenanceguy6986
@themaintenanceguy6986 3 жыл бұрын
9:50: "....millions -if not thousands of deaths. .." glorious! 😂😂😂
@dentheman1797
@dentheman1797 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of dr. Evil: “why make trillions, if we can make… billions?”
@crooker2
@crooker2 3 жыл бұрын
Right?? Heheh. I caught that too.
@JB-cr2kg
@JB-cr2kg 3 жыл бұрын
SciManDan you make me feel like there is still hope for humanity!
@MatthewCaunsfield
@MatthewCaunsfield 3 жыл бұрын
So proofs 1, 2 and 3 are all basically "The Bible". I'm shocked I say, shocked! 😁
@eddiebruv
@eddiebruv 3 жыл бұрын
Well, not THAT shocked.
@iamTheSnark
@iamTheSnark 3 жыл бұрын
- I'm shocked! Shocked to see that gambling is going on in this place! - Your winnings, Captain. -Ah yes, thank you.
@AstrosElectronicsLab
@AstrosElectronicsLab 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, so no proof then.
@oldman0995
@oldman0995 3 жыл бұрын
I want to compliment you on sticking to your arguments and not making fun of his belief. As a Christian I love science and never stop learning as much as I can and I also value my faith. Stay well.
@TheDarkZeroGame
@TheDarkZeroGame 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna be honest, this is crazy that this guy said: "evolve ape-like creature." The vast majority of creationists usually say just ape or monkey we evolved from.......maybe there is a chance
@John.0z
@John.0z 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not holding my breath on him actually accepting real science.
@AquaPeet
@AquaPeet 3 жыл бұрын
yeah how come we evolved from simple organisms yet simple organisms still exist today huh huh explain that huh **poke** **poke**
@tnsquidd
@tnsquidd 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Christian, but as I possess more than 2 brain cells I know the earth is 4.5 billion years old, evolution exists, and the big bang is probably the best explanation for how the universe came about. I hope that these young earth creationists don't represent all Christians, because they are a small fraction of us Edit: just to clarify, we do believe that God created the earth, but the whole 'in 7 days' thing is all symbolism. What most of us believe, is that God designed and wrote the laws of physics and nature, and created the universe with the big bang. The rest follows on the same way centuries of science has told us. We evolved from single celled organisms over millions of years, into what we are today "Science is thinking God's thoughts after him" - Albert Einstein
@treyrandolph4720
@treyrandolph4720 3 жыл бұрын
I actually didnt skip the ad drop in this video, just for the novelty of watching Dan eat and approve of some cereal.
@mesonparticle
@mesonparticle 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! 😂👍
@djbarcode
@djbarcode 3 жыл бұрын
How can the creation of the Earth in Genisis be an 'Historical account' if no-one was there to witness it ???
@ohasis8331
@ohasis8331 3 жыл бұрын
One of Ken Ham's (AIG) favourite lines - noone was there with a video camera to record evolution. He fails to see the opposite is also true - noone was there with a camera to prove a young earth.
@uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
@uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh 3 жыл бұрын
Oh but the bible is a _historical_ source, didn't you know? Just use the bible to fact check the bible 🙄
@martynodonnell8467
@martynodonnell8467 3 жыл бұрын
🙄 as Moses wrote it down, as he was told the first books of The Bible, through revelation from God. If it’s in scripture it’s true. Never mind all your facts and evidence to the contrary .
@jamie2469
@jamie2469 3 жыл бұрын
I love arguing with people who believe this and the flat earth
@jestes7
@jestes7 3 жыл бұрын
I don't
@calculator4482
@calculator4482 3 жыл бұрын
It must feel great to lord your intelligence over misguided people
@justafrog3167
@justafrog3167 3 жыл бұрын
Or he/she love self harming, and need to seek help.. no kink shaming though
@NoName-fc3xe
@NoName-fc3xe 3 жыл бұрын
Same. It's an addiction for me.
@AstrosElectronicsLab
@AstrosElectronicsLab 3 жыл бұрын
It is pointless to argue with stupid people.
@ForbiddenFate
@ForbiddenFate 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the double standards of proclaiming that you "love science" but then anything science proves that doesnt fit your narrative is inherently "bad" and shouldn't be considered credible.
@skrappyjon2019
@skrappyjon2019 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a Christian and I don’t think genesis should be taken literally. In fact, I don’t think a lot of the Bible should be taken literally. And of course, love your vids Dan, keep it up!
@Bendigo1
@Bendigo1 3 жыл бұрын
There is too much symbolism in the bible to take everything in it literally.
@Jan_Koopman
@Jan_Koopman 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the exact thing
@Mandelbrot_Set
@Mandelbrot_Set 3 жыл бұрын
You should not take, "Blessed are the cheese makers" literally, either.
@Bendigo1
@Bendigo1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mandelbrot_Set I think you misheard that one. It is "blessed are the piece makers" like the people who make stuff and get paid commission
@chiliring7082
@chiliring7082 3 жыл бұрын
There was a Star Trek: The next generation episode that was about an alien society that was on the verge of space travel but the one thing that was holding them back was their religion. The religious side of their species thought that once they traveled the stars that their Gods would be angry with them and destroy them all.
@TimbavatiLion
@TimbavatiLion 3 жыл бұрын
Just as christian religion held earth's science back for 1500 years, burning, flaying or outcasting everyone who found out that the stupid beliefs were wrong.
@AstrosElectronicsLab
@AstrosElectronicsLab 3 жыл бұрын
And they lived happily ever after. The end.
@chiliring7082
@chiliring7082 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstrosElectronicsLab Somewhat. The religious leader ended up dying. All because the crew on The Enterprise broke the Prime Directive. So not as happy lol Pack a bowl and watch the show, will expand your brain meats
@AstrosElectronicsLab
@AstrosElectronicsLab 3 жыл бұрын
@@chiliring7082 yeah, no thanks. Already seen STNG.
@chiliring7082
@chiliring7082 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstrosElectronicsLab Word.
@Lucas_Tulic
@Lucas_Tulic 3 жыл бұрын
So basically this is yet another religious charlatan citing his book of myths as evidence. Yeah, we've never seen that before.
@EdwardHowton
@EdwardHowton 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call him a charlatan. He doesn't seem intelligent enough to know he's stupid.
@Webfra14
@Webfra14 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdwardHowton The "good" thing about being stupid is, it feels the same as beeing smart...
@hans-joachimbierwirth4727
@hans-joachimbierwirth4727 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdwardHowton Scammers methods 101: looking fairly stupid helps. If necessary train that in front of a mirror.
@EdwardHowton
@EdwardHowton 3 жыл бұрын
@@hans-joachimbierwirth4727 I'd be rather surprised if that were true... victims of scams generally aren't very smart, but you'd have to be a blithering subhuman to willingly give away money to someone who just doesn't seem very clever and struggles to find their ass with both hands, no? And with this dipshit, his intended audience would have to believe that God's chosen messenger is a dunce. I mean, I have nothing but contempt for religious people, but even I think that's pushing the depths of their abyssal stupidity.
@zactron1997
@zactron1997 3 жыл бұрын
It's such a shame. My grandfather was a professor of chemistry and a catholic. He firmly believed in God, and also firmly believed every scientific discovery that other religious people would call blasphemy. I remember asking him once how he could believe in God, but also believe in evolution, the big bang, and many other contradictions of his faith. His response was simply "The Bible was written by people. This textbook was also written by people. If the people who wrote the Bible had the knowledge of today, that's what stories would've been written about." I'm not religious myself, but I have a profound respect for a perspective like that. Religion and science is one of the few places where you can have your cake and eat it too. All you have to do is be willing to accept that people make mistakes.
@frankiev4253
@frankiev4253 3 жыл бұрын
Matt Powell has a giant inflatable banana in his back yard. I think its named Dr. Peel! How exciting for him!
@paulriggs42
@paulriggs42 3 жыл бұрын
#DrPeel
@dwaynewhite1669
@dwaynewhite1669 3 жыл бұрын
The Silmarllion is written in historical format; does that make MidleEarth real?
@Kiwibikerbuddy
@Kiwibikerbuddy 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Middle Earth is real; greetings from New Zealand. LOL.
@Lucian_Andries
@Lucian_Andries 3 жыл бұрын
It's waaaaay better than the byeble!!!! Story, characters, etc!
@KylaraKuhn
@KylaraKuhn 3 жыл бұрын
In many ways much more real than the bible. 😎
@kernicterus1233
@kernicterus1233 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@gingasouls6504
@gingasouls6504 3 жыл бұрын
I respect his arguments, although I disagree with all of them as a christian. I think the problem many make is that they think their interpretation of the bible is flawless. They dont consider what genre the text is. To who, when or why it was written. All of this change how we should understand the text. The view of genesis 1 as non-historical, but rather prophetic or poetic dates back over 1000 years. It is not a change in christianity due to the discovery of evolution. But. I think that when we properly understand the bible. And properly understand science, the two will not contradict each other. - Many many argue that genesis 1 is not written as history. One can reference Adam and the implications of his story, without saying he was a person. But it says something about us as humans and our relation to God. Some input on his arguments. - The word for day "yom". We simply dont have enough poetic literature to have other usage of it to conclude as he does. As for death before Adam, whether it was a historical person or not. Do you believe that not a single bacteria died while Adam was in the garden? How about a mosquito? A bird? Further, God said "the day you eat the fruit, you will die." But Adam did not die that day. But he "spiritually died" by being removed from Gods presence. As we see in the new testament - death has not been removed, but spiritual death has been removed. We now have access to God again. I think if we understand genesis 1-3 properly along with the rest of the bible, as it was meant to be read - not with our 2021 minds - You will not say God created the world in 6 days. For many different ways to understand genesis 1, check William Lane Craig at reasonable faith "Creation and evolution".
@RustyWalker
@RustyWalker 3 жыл бұрын
One big clue it's not history are the puns.
@jeremybradley559
@jeremybradley559 3 жыл бұрын
Well put and I like how you were respectful but firm with him.
@AlexDun123
@AlexDun123 3 жыл бұрын
This guy's entire argument is the same as literally every other YEC: "Ok, but the Bible says..."
@ANOKATA
@ANOKATA 3 жыл бұрын
look like american way to think for me ^^
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 3 жыл бұрын
technically it's his brainwashing that makes him accept that the bible says ... but yeah, you're spot on. HE would say it the way you did.
@brianmorris6961
@brianmorris6961 3 жыл бұрын
"Believe me! I'm like a smart person!"
@smellynelly312
@smellynelly312 3 жыл бұрын
Oh dear, he’s talking absolute tosh and the thing is he actually believes it.
@equious8413
@equious8413 3 жыл бұрын
All books in the Harry Potter series are written with a similar style. Praise the historian J.K. Rowling
@arctic_haze
@arctic_haze 3 жыл бұрын
I am a Christian but I also realize that the Potter books contradict each other much less than the Bible does. Treating the heavily redacted ancient books (they were redacted by everyone from Jewish priests to early Christian monks) as fact is simply silly.
@equious8413
@equious8413 3 жыл бұрын
@@arctic_haze Redacted, added to, changed entirely. We can't even play a game of Telephone with a handful of people without butchering simple phrases and I'm expected to believe a text written and rewritten by countless people with countless motivations over countless hundreds of years is an accurate depiction of ANYTHING? Riiight
@arctic_haze
@arctic_haze 3 жыл бұрын
@@equious8413 Generally, yes. This is why believing it literally is pure naivete. But it still is an interesting historical document from the early iron period (yes, we know they all are biased). And even the bias is interesting information about who and when made the final redaction.
@anrit5972
@anrit5972 3 жыл бұрын
FFS with minds like this the human race has no hope.
@ShutUpWesley
@ShutUpWesley 3 жыл бұрын
"The earth. Is old!" Earth told me to say this: "Thanks Dan, thanks.🤨"
@JobeFortuna
@JobeFortuna 3 жыл бұрын
So his 3 proofs are, The Bible, The Bible and The Bible. Understood
@randomy5151
@randomy5151 3 жыл бұрын
Having dug dinosaur fossils out the Cornwall coast,understanding at some point this was a sea bed, you instinctively know the 6000 year old earth is bs.
@doomsday_adam
@doomsday_adam 3 жыл бұрын
The guy is tattooed, which according to the Bible is a big no no, so he obviously doesn't believe in that part... Oh, as a believer he's of course forgiven, totally forgot about that. 😂
@TrickOrRetreat
@TrickOrRetreat 3 жыл бұрын
🤔🤗👍
@DesertQueenMel
@DesertQueenMel 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll bet he wears polyester too
@yorkshirebikerbitsnbobs
@yorkshirebikerbitsnbobs 3 жыл бұрын
So out of interest, where in the bible does it say you can't have a tattoo? Just very curious? Also, if it is a "no no" to have a tattoo, maybe he had them done before he became a Christian...
@khill8645
@khill8645 3 жыл бұрын
@@yorkshirebikerbitsnbobs Leviticus 19: 28, "You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves" - many of the people who use Leviticus to argue that being gay is a sin or similar nonsense repeatedly ignore the other Mosaic laws such as this one about tattoos, the one about wearing mixed fabrics, or the rules regarding diet.
@shadoudirges
@shadoudirges 3 жыл бұрын
@@yorkshirebikerbitsnbobs Leviticus 19:28 You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the Lord. And having them before confirmation is not an excuse according to the Old Testament.
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