Fact Fiend - Being Vegetarian Gives Shaggy Superpowers

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[@joederue9900]

Aight so its not Casey "Kaseem" its Casey "Case-'em"

[@FactFiend]

My bad. Couldn’t find a video of him saying his name out loud prior to recording to confirm the correct pronunciation.

[@Webmaster4531]

@@FactFiend He always pronounced it Case-em on the top 40 at the start.

[@joederue9900]

@@FactFiend I can’t blame you guys bc unless you were subject to his radio shows, I honestly have no idea if you had them across the pond, it’s a weird name to try and pronounce by just reading it.

[@woodgatejack]

@@FactFiend I used to watch a late-night show he hosted, back in the 80's- _America's Top Ten._ Also, he's in Ghostbusters in which he names himself, in the montage bit of the Ghostbusters doing various jobs whilst newspapers and magazines pop up and various TV and radio hosts talk about them.

[@kilmcm45]

​@@FactFiendI have my own comment on this so sorry....if you grew up in America in the 80's or early 90's....you heard this guy say his name.....he has a segment in the original Ghostbusters film where he explains the Ghostbusters pop culture influence in their world

[@TheKingOfAmazing]

Ultra instinct Shaggy is pretty much the modern day equivalent of those old Chuck Norris memes

[@dogie61]

But Chuck Norris is ONLY scared of Shaggy

[@Equinox4242]

Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?

[@vanishl.2693]

If chuck Norris and shaggy were to fight the multiverse would end and be created a endless amount of times before they shake hands at the end.

[@PureGoldNeverCorrodes]

Nah, Shaggy seems better because Shaggy isn’t a fighting character so it seems more Tongue-in-cheek, whereas the Chuck Norris memes seemed closer to actual powerscaling.

[@L337P1R4735]

You're right but Chuck Norris is a wanker and Shaggy is a badass who hangs out with Superman and Goku.

[@ltspyder2177]

I absolutely loathe being "that guy" but...talking about Ultra Instinct Shaggy and not one mention of the scene in Legend of the Phantosaur where Shaggy fights off an entire bar full of bikers?

[@rabidporcupine0]

I mean, isn't that the movie they mentioned where he lost his fear and suddenly became super badass?

[@nicholascharles9625]

That's what inspired the meme

[@hibingboing2418]

Yes.

[@kamuikadet6538]

Yeah that is the first instance of ui shaggy

[@potbrain16]

You can walk out of here or I can walk on your face.

[@MasonJBean]

"Think about the number of big things he puts in his mouth without any effort" is a great quote to take out of context

[@Wathulhu]

I’m a huge DBZ fan and have been watching it all my life but i can happily admit that there’s characters that could absolutely kill Goku and anyone who says otherwise clearly hasn’t watched the series wherein Goku dies multiple times.

[@Leo.Labine]

They could kill him, once.

[@tale7955]

There's this character called anti spiral, who (while literally nerfing himself out of pride) casually destroyed 2 universes and used other 4 as shuriken (both times didn't even do damage to his enemy), universes he created an infinite amount of for the sake of flexing. And people still think Goku can beat him.

[@goldman77700]

@@tale7955 I never cared for Gurren Laggan but those are just plain stupid Goku fanboys. Music is good as hell tho.

[@LegaLImmigrnt]

I'm pretty sure the meme refers to Shaggy in the "Legend of the Phantosarus." Like you said, he is mind controlled to be "brave". Shaggy beats up an entire bar of bikers without getting hit. So it would make more sense for that to be the reason for the meme rather than the second live action movie.

[@MANESHARK]

Unfortunately, after Cassie Cassem passed, they did stop having him being vegetarian. Also, Shaggy WAS an Olympic sprinter in one short.

[@garyslayton8340]

He was also a veitnam vet

[@Ghost812many]

His last name is pronounced like "case-uhm". He says it himself often on America's Top 40 music countdown, of which he was the mc for years.

[@ShujinTribble]

Yup. Was hoping someone would have mentioned

[@42meep13]

Shaggy also notably makes a cameo in the 2003 animated clone wars as the Jedu Padawan Sha'a Gi. He gets scared, runs out into the open and is immediately goomba stomped by 2003 General Grievous. Meaning canonically General Grievous can defeat Shaggy.

[@dickb1379]

"Like, If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine Scoob!"

[@fairystail1]

just going to add there was one episode or movie where there was an issue at the Olympics and Shaggy had to actually participate as an Olympic runner. Shaggy has canonically been an Olympic athlete

[@eliandervalderen5849]

I really need a link or a description of that because I really want to see that. Come to think of it I stopped watching Scooby-Doo after be-cool-scooby-doo or something like that the one where Scooby got super powers from eating nanite infused Scooby Snacks

[@_SSGB_]

Shaggy stopped being a vegetarian ever since Matthew Lillard took over the role, He often ate meat in Mystery Incorporated and I've been watching Scooby-Doo and Guess Who and Shaggy is eating meat all the time.

[@Chronoflation]

He's only a vegetarian in a few iterations. Heck, my favorite set of movies, the mosters are real one with Zombie Island through Cyber Chase, have him eating tons of meat, and those movies were designed as a sequel to the original show, despite the Kids WB commercials calling him a vegetarian around the same time those movies came out, lol.

[@LordMalus]

Ate quite a bit of it in the original series, too.

[@piss4429]

yeah, there was a joke in mystery inc about vegan food tasting bad that made me kinda sad

[@RazorStormInc]

I'm pretty sure I've seen him eat meat in the ORIGINAL series.

[@goosenotmaverick1156]

Im not here to argue cause I've seen it too, but I have to say, has anyone considered that for years there have been meat replacements? They haven't always tasted worth a darn, but they have existed for a LONG time. The only time I'll say for certain he ate meat, is if he said it's got it on there. If we only see it, it's hard to make the assumption that it is or is not meat. That's all.

[@drearmouse9510]

Damn. I totally forgot about Joseph gettin older in King of the Hill. Was probably around the character's age when those episodes released and it's kinda nutty how artful it was for something so simple.

[@Demonslayre]

Never watched much king of the hill but even I remember little Joseph, then seeing big Joseph in a later episode and thinking "oh, puberty. Cool"

[@sev1120]

Shaggy not only runs alongside Scooby, he runs alongside Scooby with bad running posture. Shaggy could probably run faster if he really tried

[@moobles2998]

Watching the original scooby-doo reruns at 9pm on a school-night is a core memory from my childhood. Tired as heck, but just feeling the comfort of watching a group of friends solving mysteries and helping people. Any form of character-assassination like turning the group mean, is too much for me. I fully subscribe to the superman-thesis you put forth. Keep the character, alter the details. Or develop the character, either towards the familiar, or from it. But never be so disconnected as to have written a new set of characters, because then it no longer deserves to carry the same name.

[@thomasedgar8612]

this is because of velma, isnt it? yeah i cant blame that

[@weepingkoopa2862]

That skit from Family Guy where Scooby-Doo and his friends solve a murder feels more loyal to the source material.

[@brobs0463]

I’m calling that you’re gonna make a Scott Pilgrim joke somewhere in this

[@jojotheswede8444]

spot on, can't escape Todd the vegan

[@rohangauld]

Chicken isn't vegan???

[@brobs0463]

@@jojotheswede8444 Knew it!😂 ‘You once we’re a ve-gone but now you will be gone’

[@ShujinTribble]

I'm 5 and-a-half minutes in and waiting for it... DON'T YOU LOT DISAPPOINT US!

[@ShujinTribble]

AAAAHHH!!!!!!!!

[@jfess1911]

I was one of the original.Scooby Doo fans (and admit that 9-year-old me instantly got a crush on Velma) . When my children were watching Scooby Doo when they were small, my Wife pointed out that the original couple of series were very comforting to little children. The plot was predictable and they always proved that the "supernatural creature" was just someone in a suit. To be honest, I was initially quite upset by later iterations in which the supernatural elements were real. It seemed to fly in the face of the main point of the series. Then again, the original series was aimed at very small children whereas some of the later ones, including the movies, were aimed at a slightly older audience.

[@jaylinnell5251]

I think quite a few kids had a crush on Velma, myself and my partner included. To your main point, I honestly can't remember seeing a single episode where the "supernatural creature" was ever anything but a human in a suit, though having seen the early 2000's movies, I'm not entirely surprised about there being some actual supernatural stuff going on. The main point from all actual Scooby Doo media, for me, anyway, is teamwork is important. You can't do everything alone. You might be good at one thing, and your teammates can be good at other things, but together, anything is possible. And with the original show's baddies always being human, it showed that there's always a real, logical explanation for everything. Which is something that needs to be taught more today.

[@jessethomas3319]

I’ve wanted an adult version of a lot of shows but scooby doo was never one of them. But my biggest issue was the fact that it didn’t have scooby in it.

[@ThePhenomenalEX]

"Get to the third live action movie" THERE'S A THIRD LIVE ACTION MOVIE?

[@umbrella3235]

Yep, The Mystery Begins. It's pretty good for a low budget TV Movie, but it's cast has nothing on the first two live action movies.

[@jhyenixon1530]

They were made for TV movies, they’re a bit shit but they can still get out a laugh

[@evertrainingeverstone6069]

I've seen Simple Plan a couple months ago opening for an Offspring concert. Had no idea who they were until they started playing What's New Scooby Doo live on stage. Made my week.

[@KormVerde]

Nisha is only using 1/2% of her power to phase through 2 realities while recording this.

[@emmanuelzavala4432]

What's new Scooby Doo was my childhood, so many iconic rock songs and chase scenes

[@TheSpookiestSkeleton]

One of my favorite things about this video is remembering seeing the memes as they came out because I remember seeing the live action Scooby Doo movies when I was a kid and the as a teenager the memes started up and I remembered the direct to tv and dvd movies ahhh just so many fun memories now culminating in warner brothers paying homage to a silly joke. Just a nice feeling.

[@Demonslayre]

Velma is gonna get multiple seasons, I bet, purely on the fact that people are hate watching it and the higher ups won't care if they're watching to hate or to love because they're still watching.

[@KristopherBel]

I could imagine them looking at like social media engagement and only seeing "wow so many people are talking about our show" and totally missing/not caring that they are hatimg on it. Just like was done with morbius

[@TheBrockwellBroadcastNetwork]

It was announced it was already canceled

[@Demonslayre]

@@TheBrockwellBroadcastNetwork if that's true thats the best entertainment news I've heard in a while

[@SergioLeRoux]

I couldn't even stomach the Honest Trailer, let alone watching the actual show.

[@Demonslayre]

@SergioLeRoux I've seen two episodes. And by seen, I mean I watched Nux Taku torture himself by watching and commenting on two episodes.

[@Jedi_Spartan_38]

Also Shaggy has additional power through being a Jedi (check the 2003 Clone Wars)...

[@tyrgannusgaming6657]

The audio sync seems off. Could be on my end, but other videos don't seem to.

[@bigkirbyhj666]

It's a voice over cause the original audio was corrupted

[@FactFiend]

No it isn’t. I just messed up. It happens.

[@QuantumVLOG]

@@FactFiend Don't suppose you use Vegas to render the videos, do you?

[@maykstuff]

One of the channels (maybe camera audio) was left on during editing. It happens all the time

[@tyrgannusgaming6657]

@@FactFiend No big, wasn't trying to criticize. Was just trying to clarify!

[@atlasofthedeep]

i find it kind of funny that every time you mention one of Shaggy's feats your mic cuts out like he's listening

[@jwalterswartz]

Casey Kasem ipronounced his name Kay-See Kay-Sum. He was the biggest top 40 Countdown DJ in the United states for years in Casey's Coast to Coast.

[@charlietownsend4416]

I'm sorry but Ultra Instinct Shaggy absolutely started with the hypnosis scene in Scooby Doo: Curse of the Phantosaur right? And not the live action movie?

[@dcbandit]

Having to scream a ton to get in character for Shaggy is surprisingly on brand for him.

[@Dornul]

The whole time I was watching, I was waiting for Nisha to mention Scoobynatural. Thank you for not disappointing

[@memoryman15]

2:52 I didn't know I needed to hear this till today, made me grin ear to ear. XD

[@truexchaosx6099]

Also thank you for saying what I've been saying. They(Velma) doesn't feel like Scooby doo. It feels like random dickheads dressed in their clothes with their names. Switch out any of their names and outfits and you have an entirely different show

[@tf330129]

I liked the 1st and 2nd live action movies, but I only learned of the 3rd when Karl mentioned it :)

[@TheKoriKasai]

I think this might be one of my favorite topics you've covered so far. Definitely loved this video.

[@jaymarshbank3862]

My favorite episode of Scooby-Doo is the episode of southpark where instead of the Globetrotters you get Korn. Or the Globetrotters of the year 3000 from Futurama.

[@cullenST92]

There's a scene in one of the movies where shaggy and sccoby are eating a bucket of crawfish, so they must've rolled the vegetarian thing back for the movies

[@bensol184]

The new Guess Who Scooby-Doo series made Mark Hamill canonically the Joker in that show. And I love that

[@zae_thunder4541]

they should make a scooby doo meets dragonball. i can see it now. all the Z fighters can feel a new power sourse they never saw before. they race to it. find shaggy. goku just rushes up punches him sending shaggy flying. shaggys like ouch man let me eat 1st. they both eat. now powered up and the fight begins

[@weaponizedpizza8825]

Honestly I never knew Shaggy was a vegetarian, partly because whenever I think of him eating I think of the one time he made a ham sandwich through means that can only be described supernaturally.

[@KelniusTV]

I actually knew about Shaggy being a vegetarian, and it's one (of many) things I didn't like about the reboot Scoob. He eats a sandwich which explicitly has deli meats on it.

[@camerondodge2070]

I still have one question: Who's more powerful, Shaggy or Red Shirt Shaggy?

[@moseszero3281]

There is a homebrew DnD character sheet online that basically describes Shaggy as a pan-dimensional god. For canon OP characters I would start with Chowder and Bobo-bobobo. There are videos about how stupidly broken their powers are.

[@tedybomber1713]

I still quote that Johnny bravo line to this day.

[@runeking6242]

The origins of ultra instinct shaggy is actually from a image of a miss translated Chinese toy posted on 4 Chan. The power level meme was actually a separate entity that came before. they did merged overtime making the current meme we know today.

[@ThatVincion]

Buffy playing Daphne and kicking ass as her is awesome. The live action movies are weirdly nostalgic to me.

[@CapnAlces]

The question isn't whether Shaggy could out fight Goku, it's whether he can *out eat* Goku.

[@benstradling7615]

One of my favourite full length Scooby-Doo movie is bat-man v Scooby doo I watch it for a laugh not taking it seriously for a second until I watched it and still haven't got over how good it is in a retro way I love it.

[@GeebusCrust]

Brad! For your video, I would recommend Arale from Dr. Slump. There's even an episode of DragonBall Super where she whoops up on Goku and Vegeta for funsies

[@iddan1205]

7:20 as a First Nation American (native, "Indian") that episode was the one that I understood. At 11 I had upper lip hair and other hair... Puberty was ruff.

[@Hachiro]

The "What's New Scooby Doo" opening song is an awesome map on Beat Saber! Not hard. Just flows really well. Got full completion on my first try in it :D

[@isaiahtatum]

That British invasion-esk Scooby-Doo intro has to be one of my favorite songs to get stuck in my head

[@kaskus7147]

The name is pronounced Casey Case-Em.

[@jico5147]

the mask is so underrated when it comes to being op, pretty much anyone with toon force is broken

[@xerosereify]

At the risk of sounding to close to those racist babies that can't handle their favourite character being shaded darker, I was definitely skeptical when I heard they had made Shaggy black. Alot of Shaggy's core personality traits are cute/funny when given to a white dude, but swing waaay to close to a racist stereotype when given to a black guy. Probably why they had to change literally every aspect of his character when they made him "Norville".

[@ArcaneExThrashAW]

That’s a lot of words to say, apparently his race was important to the interpretation to his character.

[@orrinbranch6063]

To add to Karl's wonderful explanation of Red Sun Superman. He lands in Soviet Ukraine which has been described as the Kansas to the USSR. And its still a married farm couple who can't have kids of their own that set the core that we always know as Superman.

[@eliandervalderen5849]

Yeah as long as the core of the character is the same then changing the other details don't matter. I mean hey look at Sunshine Superman from that world where Earth is stuck in the 60s. Or when they remade president Superman to be a black kid from the Bronx.

[@kilderok]

"And a slug of chocolate syrup.." SCOOBY, NOOOOOO

[@cogdawg5772]

Be cool Scooby Doo was a good incarnation of the show, very funny.

[@spnsman1]

I can say that I’m fairly certain that how I walk is from how much I watched Scooby-Doo, and primarily Shaggy. There’s a theory out there (or it could be fact. Don’t remember anymore) that kids imitate their parents, or others in how they move. In my case, nobody else in the family walks very loose limbed like I do. After thinking on it for a while, I noticed that the way I walk is exactly like how Shaggy is animated. I will note that two of my favorite versions (because they were always on when I was growing up) is Pup Named Scooby-Doo, and Mystery Inc.

[@truexchaosx6099]

Red Son Superman is so good because it's truly Superman. He believes whole heartedly that what's he's doing Is right and once he believes it's wrong he instantly uses his teachings to kill Stalin.

[@tonygoodwinjr9293]

Btw, you couldve changed everybodys names in Velma & nobody would even realize it was a Scooby-Doo show

[@D3sol4t3Dyn4sty]

Unrealistically powerful, I present popeye

[@theotherccount4481]

It's amazing how The Velma Show became so disliked by everyone. I wonder what this fórmula is

[@Carlos-Mora]

It just the perfect combination of actual bad writing and rage bait for internet complainmen

[@lordnul1708]

A part of me does wonder if they would ever have the in-universe moment where Shaggy first started doing the vegetarian diet as a reference to the early days where Shaggy wasn't one tbh

[@tonys6620]

the "Ultra Instinct Shaggy" actually originated from a series of videos that were parodies of Dragonball tier lists in 2017. It starts off normal then it starts listing off ludicrous power levels, and then it throws in characters like Rolf from Ed Edd n Eddy. Near the top the guy puts "Shaggy Blanco" because of he defeats "Cell Dorado". Its meant to be a jab at the latin dragonball community and their perpensity to just make up shit because it sounds hype. It's a good watch and it predates the shaggy meme by a bit. Its made by a guy called Joe Capo

[@keithwoodcrest]

With all Brads knowledge of this property I'm excited to see his video on the topic

[@legendmaster8799]

I can’t believe they never brought up the Scooby doo Supernatural crossover

[@valeclaw1697]

My favorite interview meme is a toss up between "the acting feels like a porn movie because it was until shaggy changed it to protect the youth of america" and Velma's actress saying Shaggy formed her from matter to play the role.

[@kamuikadet6538]

22:02 this is why a lot of people hate injustice as it stripped superman of his code and made him a super evil dictator

[@doctorleak5312]

Watching the scooby doo film as a kid the first one those monsters were terrifying.

[@WE-te3vp]

Shaggy is a vegetarian. Meanwhile eating a sandwich with a ton of different meat. Holds about as much water as a damn made of paper

[@starlepus9437]

i always sorta assumed that the reason goku seems to be hurt when bulma hits him, is cause he isnt using his Ki when not in battle.

[@caseymacdonald878]

Now I just want to see a Marvel style power breakdown of the Scooby-Doo characters, you know Velma and Scooby are Avenger Level Threats

[@dontworry4945]

The level 5 vegan joke breaks me right in half.

[@woobilicious.]

F is for family is actually really good, it covers some deeper themes about traditional gender roles, an abusive dad trying to be a better person, and the changing dynamic with mother in the 80s looking for deeper meaning outside of house work that has been increasingly automized away.

[@nachoisone]

Talking about my favorite memes to sh!tpost Love you guys!!

[@MetalGearMechWars]

And now shaggy is now William Afton the purple guy

[@carbumb4229]

No one ever talks about he Scooby Doo movie with Tim Conway where they run an college track including hurdles, high dive, and pole vault in about 15 seconds. 400 meters is one lap. 100 m record 9.63 sec (23 mph), 110m hurdle record is 12:20 (20.5 mph). With those combined they are going about 31 mph while dodging obstacles. And they said about 35 mph to keep up with a great dane so surprisingly consistent. This was fun.

[@truexchaosx6099]

I don't know if you guys know, but here's a fun fact. Warner Bros made a movie called Scooby Doo and Krypto Too! A second direct to video crossover between the Scooby Gang and the DC universe as its spent with them trying to figure out the mystery of where the justice league has gone and who disappeared them. Fully voiced, animated, everything. They even brought Matthew Lillard to voice Shaggy. Then they scrapped it and threw it in the bin as a tax write off, but some mad bastard leaked it and now its floating around the internet. It's classic, great, good scooby doo and dc fun with great bits of humor(like Velma being unrecognizable/a different person without her glasses) and Fred being madly in love with Harley Quinn. Was a great movie that Warner scrapped because...???? But seeing the OG mystery van, the gang, and even scooby, literally made me ECSTATIC after seeing the dumpster fire that is Velma.

[@cristalmewtwo4160]

there was literally a short movie where he was in the world games

[@stephaniec9539]

Doesnt Shaggy heal his broken arm in ScoobyNatural. Or did Cas do that??

[@smith22041]

Cas did, but Shaggy was shocked it was broken in the first place "What? That's not -- I have jumped out of a biplane in a museum and was fine!How did thus happen?!"

[@stephaniec9539]

@@smith22041 that is right!

[@michaelchildress8227]

He'll ya

[@uraverageskeleton6480]

But will he haw?

[@zariasafonova7220]

Ultra Instinct Shaggy is my favorite meme ever

[@samanthaw3845]

“[Great Danes] are proud, tall dogs with a straight back and a noble profile” lmaoooooo not my Dane hahaha. She’s the biggest dork you’ve ever met, and I love her to pieces lol. She is about 140 pounds tho lol.

[@zanderwhitcroft]

Velma should have been it's own IP.

[@andrewstreet7462]

Matthew Lillard was once was asked if he would voice Shaggy in the show, and he replied to the question with something along the lines of "no, If I did I would have hit rock bottom." (Or something to that affect)

[@Ikantspell4]

I miss the Legend. Counting down was so much fun. If it was song or the new year something about that guy just made counting better.

[@Wix_Mitwirth]

Balancing a ladder on a car jack is not unimpressive.

[@PuReWiReZ]

In my head canon, Shaggy is Goku but in the world where he ate King Picollo

[@unorthadoxgamer1284]

I'd hate to be that guy, so I won't. love the video been waiting for this topic

[@bobsnow4890]

In season 1 episode 5 of Scooby Doo, Where Are You! 'Decoy for Dognapper' Shaggy is roasting 3 sausages on a beach. He does not eat them on screen - and one could argue they were for Velma, Daphne, and Fred. But that isn't shown in any way either.

[@Shaddowkhan]

Yo it's weird how I was thinking I haven't seen a vid from this channel in my feed yesterday and now there a video in my feed. How is this possible?

[@nicksibrava9785]

Even us anime fans know who is the ultimate being and that is Shaggy

[@geoshark12]

It is literally canon that shaggy is Olympic level athlete in running and acrobatics

[@geoshark12]

Which is why they always use him as the bait

[@eliandervalderen5849]

Yeah the characters in Velma or not characters from Scooby-Doo. It's just someone's hit show with a thin veneer tomorrow come up as if they were Scooby-Doo characters.

[@rainnoises2985]

The shaggy bar fight scene in the film with the hologram dinosaurs is a top 10 ever fight scene Edit: its Scooby Doo legend of the phantasore

[@piggfeathers]

17:52 thats an UHOH face if ive ever seen one

[@jackdfrog]

I could be mistaken but I always thought the super Saiyan shaggy thing came from an episode of the cartoon where shaggy took on a biker gang and kicked all their butts

[@olivianrogojanu5056]

I love the fact that they call Scooby Doo innocent piece of media, HAVE YOU SEEN REDDIT PICTURES OF VELMA?

[@iandrake8537]

This was on in the background when I broke up with my girlfriend, still made me laugh. Thanks Fact Fiend.