Everyone Knew Robert Pattinson Was Going to be Batman But Him - Fact Fiend

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[@FactFiend]

To everyone commenting that it’s called Batman Beyond in America not Batman of the Future. We know, in fact we say so in the video itself like 10 seconds later. Is it really that hard to watch an entire video before commenting?

[@redhotchikapepr8978]

I was about to say… you guys said that repeatedly 😂 why is it so hard to just go “oh, I wasn’t aware of that, that’s a neat free bonus fact.”

[@GarnetMidnightSummerSelene]

We're sorry we're just really dumb

[@cghensi]

How many bitchy comments do you think you'd get if you refer to the Sega Genesis as the Sega Mega Drive?

[@alexfranz817]

Do you ever wonder why people yell at the TV screen or movies? Me too, but I'm sure it's the same mentality.

[@LordIronfist]

Yeah I got to agree regardless of the fact that I watch Batman beyond you're in the US when it was airing it's just a better title of the 2 choices. Incidentally, team batman with old Bruce and young Terry-& arguably new oracle if you count his friend- is actually my favorite Batman. (Actually, I shouldn't call him old Bruce since he doesn't call himself Bruce in his head anymore in that iteration as depicted in the episode where someone tries to trick him into thinking his self-conscious is speaking to him)

[@baileywatts1304]

I refuse to get upset about casting choices in superhero movies ever since somebody decided that Wolverine should be played by a tall Australian who was known mostly for being a clean cut dancer who smiled all the time and it worked. It worked so well.

[@laurabryan6938]

Same tho

[@Nastyn1nja808]

Micheal Keaton Was known for Mr Mom lol

[@arthand7672]

Someone else beat me to it, but Michael Keaton was known for Mr Mom. He outraged fans when he was cast, but then the trailer came out and people were literally buying tickets to other movies to see the trailer just to get a glimpse of the movie

[@doubleEspressoShartini]

There are so many examples: Gay cowboy heart throb can't be Joker, surely the guy who played Human Torch can't be a good Captain America, Daredevil as Batman are you kidding me. And guess what, all fantastic

[@jakonfire]

@@doubleEspressoShartini ehhh batfleck was okay. his acting was good but portrayal wasn't it. the rest are 10/10 tho

[@kingvegeta1695]

As an American I’m blown away that we called it “Batman of the future”. I had always heard it as “Batman: Beyond”

[@YakBat]

Cause in the US it's Batman Beyond while outside of the US it's know as Batman of the Future.

[@TheSwiftNinja1366]

Came here to say this lol

[@jamisonedwards8162]

Surprised me too. Watched it all the time and never knew.

[@nathanclarke2777]

Yeah I haven't ever heard of Batman of the Future! It's always been Batman Beyond!

[@jordanpritchard3339]

Same

[@mattelwood980]

I really dig how the 2022 Batmobile was just a Frankensteined Muscle Car. First glance, probably not that intimidating. Then it breaks 100 and leaps through the air and now you need some new pants.

[@mwilliams7227]

For me it was the way he didn’t lose all of his vehicles in various explosions like literally every other batman

[@sebastiansuazo2734]

breaks 100?? for me it was when he started the engine, imagine hearing that on a dark tunnel

[@MorganScott82]

For most of the time Conroy portrayed Batman he wasn't out. He didn't come out publicly until 2016. He wrote a great comic for DC's Pride Collection about himself and his life called "Finding Batman" that I highly recommend. Kevin was the night, he was vengeance, HE! WAS! BATMAN! and his work will be sorely missed.

[@MorganScott82]

I need to watch the whole video before commenting... You bring up Finding Batman seconds after I paused to right this. Well done Karl, well done Lucas, well done Fact Fiend Team.

[@MorganScott82]

@text_Factfiend @FactFiend looks like you have scammers in your comments again. Sorry mate.

[@spleenbegone]

This format feels a lot more like a laid back podcast. It really fits your content.

[@gartsur84]

Speaking of jawlines, Karl Urban as Judge Dredd was fantastic, it's a shame there weren't more movies in his universe.

[@trevorgreenough6141]

I recognised him, in the second time he comes on screen. It utterly blew my mind. I got super excited. I couldn't for the life of me recognise his voice.

[@MadScientist512]

Jawline, grimace and all, Stallone's still the perfect Judge Dredd imo, and despite its flaws his was an entertaining movie that absolutely looked and mostly felt like the comics, unlike the blandly generic and humourless reboot, whose main visual similarity to the comics, and I suspect a big reason for its success, is its admittedly inventive goreporn, and the ridiculously overhyped 'authenticity' of the actor's refusal to remove his helmet.

[@gartsur84]

@@MadScientist512 yes, it was a really fun movie, but Stallone took of the helmet early in the movie and we didn't get to see him in full custome again, not even in the final showdown.

[@trevorgreenough6141]

@@MadScientist512 was Stallone's face censored? That would've funny.

[@sollyswolly1623]

Battinson's movie, I feel, is a great distilation of all the best, non-psycho parts of Frank Miller's Batman, while also weaving Miller's brutality into a character arc where Batman learns that you can't always force your way into situations. I'm really excited to see this Batman develop, and for the first time I feel like we have a Batman that could be friends with other superheroes, who isn't pessimistic beyond being human, and could even have his own Batfamily! Edit: Also, love and respect to Conroy, RIP

[@amidalaprin4846]

I think my favorite quote (that I hope isn't fake) about robbert Patterson taking on the batman role, was he was asked "I thought you only played unhinged characters?" And he responded "batman is unhinged."

[@Mechjoc]

Still makes me laugh that the Joker couldn't make Batman laugh. Yet Mark Hamil could make Kevin Conroy break down into giggles with just a look.

[@joshwilson6388]

Everybody was up in arms over Michael Keaton's casting for Batman as well, which is why I wasn't overly concerned with Pattinson's or Ledger's casting when they were announced.

[@SirGambitRocks]

I don't think any casting for batman hasn't been heavily criticized before the film comes out

[@Spiral-Mark]

I didn't know that about Kevin Conroy and I'm absolutely okay with that. He's one of the most phenomenal Batman of all time next to Adam West. May they both rest in peace.

[@danieldaw1778]

As a 90s kid myself, Kevin Conroy IS Batman. When I think of Batman, I literally hear Kevin Conroy's voice. Him being gay really shouldn't effect how good of Batman he is to a person, but that's the world we live in.

[@sebastianquinchia1840]

Keith David as Spawn is the next dead on voice role after Conroy and Hamill

[@somejerkbag]

Yes!

[@kevinhernandez2594]

I think the only voice actor who can take up the mantle of "The Voice of Batman" now that Kevin Conroy is gone, is Diedrich Bader. He voiced Batman in The Brave and The Bold, and in the Harley Quinn show

[@joshuakusuma5953]

I wanna say Bruce Greenwood is a good Batman voice. Under the Red Hood was great.

[@xxPenjoxx]

Adam West for me and Kevin Conroy rip is my husband's choice . Still to this day, he cites animated batman as the best portrayal of the character he has ever seen.

[@jaydavis9717]

Robert Patterson's batman is the best live action Batman movie to date and I will die on that hill. No other live action movie paid as much respect to the source material as Patterson's and that is just pure facts.

[@ericmalikyte885]

I LOVED The Batman. Yeah, it was a bit long, but damn if it wasn't the closest thing to the comics we've ever gotten. I could see more of the animated series influences coming into this as it develops. I do wish they'd give some writing duties to Paul Dini, though.

[@Lynsey17]

I really appreciate that Robert Pattinson refused to train for the insane body type most superhero actors have been pushed to obtain. I think it was a really healthy decision and I hope it helps change expectations.

[@timelesswisdom.]

Defeats the whole point of a hero. Your not an average joe

[@RyanG0899]

@@timelesswisdom. You're

[@meirl5700]

@@timelesswisdom. Isn't the whole point of spider-man that anyone can be Spider-Man as long as they're resilient enough to do the right thing

[@gregoryellory9760]

It makes sense because he has just started to be batman but it would be good if there are any other movies made he should become stronger and start looking more and more like comic's batman

[@DoomguyIsGrinningAtYou.]

@@meirl5700 Anyone can be a 'hero' if they are resilient enough to do the right thing.

[@jwjeff11]

I really enjoyed this episode. The laid back way it was edited really that makes it feel like this is a conversation had with friends.

[@bottledwaterprod]

Kevin Conroy will always be Batman in my head. I'll be reading a comic at a nursing home in my 80s and I'll still hear his voice. RIP 🙏

[@cait812]

The lack of a Greenscreen is far more terrifying than anything I'd have imagined.

[@anandgarde13]

I grew up in America and this is the first time I've heard "Batman of the future". I always knew it as Batman Beyond because of the cartoon that played on WB Kids. I'll admit that I'm a super casual fan that never read comics or anything so maybe that's why I never heard the "Batman of the Future" name.

[@They_Hit_The_Pentagon]

Apparently it was a mix up according to me other comments, Batman beyond in America, and Batman of the future internationally

[@inpuris13]

great job karl, you really captured the essence of karl in your editing

[@slipperysoul9630]

I love the relaxed atmosphere of the video; it feels like a director's cut that knows the spirit of the channel. Thank you

[@kittykit7314]

I'm in the USA and everyone here calls it Batman Beyond. I've never heard anyone say Batman of the Future until now

[@MakCurrel]

Most didn't know that Kevin Conroy was gay. Because it didn't matter. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@MrBromansa]

@@TheKypps You'd be surprised how many people have an issue with gay people just doing their job in the world.

[@alexandersmith7061]

Actually it’s because the studio culture of the time was pretty homophobic and he didn’t want to lose his job

[@scorpioproductions7068]

Exactly. Gay actors/actresses can play straight characters and straight actors/actresses can play gay characters.

[@fro_double_g]

I didn't and it doesn't matter (outside lbgt representation)

[@Pablochapo69]

Top g Batman of course he liked dudes u can’t get any manlier if you think about it 🤣

[@TheWulver]

I think what also made the movie so good is the choice of music. “Something in the way” by Nirvana was a fantastic choice for the film and helped made Roberts Batman very good

[@giftedunderachiever5919]

It’s Batman Beyond everywhere but Australia, continental Europe, South America, Japan, and New Zealand. It was definitely Batman Beyond in America.

[@nosignature.]

Bruh what? I've only ever knew it as Batman Beyond here in America lol

[@wanderingwiththewhitbos4518]

I've watched your videos from the beginning. This new format is very comforting. Thank you for all the content

[@SurfingEquilibrium]

I actually cannot believe I've had a Fact Fiend video recommended to me. I've been a long time viewer of the channel and I regularly binge watch your content, I love you guys and what you do! :)

[@LunaEllis]

this video has the same vibe as the podcast, and i'm loving it

[@danieltaber4924]

It was Batman Beyond in America

[@gartsur84]

Michael Keaton is Batman for me (he was also a risky choice due to be known as a comedy actor). His interpretation brought back the seriousness to the comic book character (after Adam West reign) and paved the way to the animated series.

[@theawesome925]

Pattinson Batman's intimidation factor is so high that people are intimidated when he's not even there. That shot of people not wanting to go into alleys.... because the Batman might be in there. Perfect.

[@sophiaemily1819]

ngl i really loved this more chill, less edited version of fact fiend, it much more feels like mates having a chat about interesting facts than a full studio production and it works great

[@lydan5808]

Nintendo light gun!!! Karl, I felt so sorry for you after hearing your original one was thrown out/donated. I'm so glad to see that you have another. Happy New Year to all and thank you for continuing to make great conent.

[@ryanmays3899]

Love the video felt like a podcast with out the length of one and imo loved it

[@aaronmachin7325]

I love the laid back style. I fell in love with this channel because of the "professionally unprofessional" approach to delivering content. I also love that you all deliver answers to questions I didn't know I had until I saw the title 🤣

[@derezzed5588]

I remember when I heard Robert Patenson was casted for Batman I honestly was surprised and unsure but I was still really excited to see such a different kind of take on Batman. And I have to say he absolutely fucking killed it.

[@jhyenixon1530]

One thing that i think accelerates this live-action batman ahead others is the concept of a more young and naive batman, kinda like his portrayal in batman year one. This batman might seem to be bad at fighting when he cant dodge, and he can be easily overpowered, but that is just the crux of a young stupid bruce wayne whos trying to find his way in the world. also karl i really like this new setup, maybie just a green screen and youll be perfect :)

[@link05g]

Love what you guys do, Karl I'm glad you're editing these now...one small thing...ask Lucas how they've seamlessly looped the background music historically...the gap between the repeating track drove me nuts. Again, not a biggie, will watch regardless, I'm a video editor so maybe it bothered me more than most.

[@mcharblebarf4964]

Love the longer videos

[@immortalmadman4822]

That's weird that people call it batman of the future in America when I've only seen it as Batman Beyond as an American 🤔

[@brobs0463]

I need to see more of Karl and Lucas talking about movies

[@denimparr5487]

Y’all had me SAILING for a second there with the Batman of the Future stuff lol

[@Jcreed]

The Lighthouse gave me confidence in his casting before I ever saw The Batman

[@lolly9804]

I love how in the 90's cartoon. The batmobile gets a backstory, and that even the mechanic is, more or less, in the inner circle.

[@baileywatts1304]

And in direct response to Grant Morrison saying, "Kids understand that real crabs don't sing like the ones in The Little Mermaid. But you give an adult fiction, and the adult starts asking really fucking dumb questions like `how does superman fly? How do those eyebeams work? Who pumps the batmobile's tires?' it's a fucking made-up story, you idiot! Nobody pumps the tires!"

[@Mexicutioner0516]

I just want to say, I loved the longer length of this video. Please do this more lengthy, less edited video type more. Lol

[@xiax4453]

they got Mark Hamill to play the trickster in the flash who was pretty much the joker but in a different costume and slightly less "Jokery"

[@Geekaylee]

He actually did The Trickster first, it informed his vocal choices

[@jshanks1001]

I have to say, I really like the vibe of this video so far

[@domonicjohnson7515]

Love the changes great job guys lil changes over time lol it’s funny because you say your puting in less work with the edits but like you said the Chanel was all ways kind of known for it’s taped on greens scene and conflicting colors shirts it’s never been about editing loved the convo every time you guys would do something different last year just felt to different and I could never get invested but I like the chill vibe can’t wait to see where it gos

[@Marx1684]

This went over well. Always love the pics at the end. Please don’t take away the pics Karl😅

[@thebosshopter9133]

I had absolutely no idea this was a fact fiend video due to the missing red corners. Didn't realize how much of a signature that was

[@samuelvandekloetje]

still loving FactFiend

[@MakeEmRageQuit]

He is such an underrated actor, and he quickly became my favorite Batman outside of Keven Conroy.

[@TheArtofKAS]

Love this new format. Honestly I would not have been mad if this was longer but nearly 30 minuets is nice enough. Hears to a great new year Guys👍🏾😂

[@rjreeves7418]

I live in Florida and ive never heard anyone call it Batman of the Future, Everyone calls it batman beyond around me.

[@Gasguzzler87]

I'm american and it was called batman beyond i've never heard. Bat man of the future other than a tagline

[@robertrolls4811]

I'm glad to see you got the Super Scope!

[@zaksilva-sampaio7876]

I'm American and I knew it as Batman Beyond

[@dipsetplanz]

HAPPY NEW YEAR GUYS!!! Much love to the Fact Fiend fam 💪😂

[@stspeer0349]

Batman fight scenes absolutely can and should fall under both A: terrifying monster rips your friend apart and you literally never saw it in the first place, and B: terrifying monster appears out of the shadows, takes a full magazine to the chest and rips your friends apart and there is literally nothing you can do to stop him

[@trevorgreenough6141]

There was an idea I saw, that is for a Batman, that's entirely from the perspective of the criminal. Shot like a horror movie.

[@SuperTimminator]

Great videos!

[@ladycake1515]

I love this "from home" format :)

[@AeroQC]

Congrats on the new promotion, Karl! Or is it a demotion? 😋 Either way, whether or not you're the editor doesn't matter because it's as you put it. The content will stay the same as banter between friends about facts. And that's what a lot of us are here for. 😄 Fact Fiend: We came for the facts, but we stayed for the friends.

[@ravenreaper754]

Batman Beyond was my introduction to Batman as a child, so even though i dont remember the show to well, itll always hold a special place in my nerd heart

[@mehcutcheon2401]

That's some good Batfleck headcanon there guy, lmao.

[@cullenomarrah7150]

one small recommendation for the background of the new "set" is to paint the wall green, but leave the shelves and stuff where they are

[@YakBat]

Batman Beyond for the US North America market, Batman Of The Future for most of the rest of the world. Why are some of you having such a hard time understanding this?

[@heyitsgabe1093]

The first vid of 2023! Its a real meaty one too.

[@randomth1ngs68]

Cal Kestis actor, Cameron Monaghan was a fantastic joker through three different iterations in gotham

[@nua1913]

the format changes, the quality doesn't, keep it up guys

[@scotth9990]

I was weary about the 30 minute run time but I rather like it. Great video

[@asherjones5725]

As an American, I distinctly remember Batman Beyond

[@trevorgreenough6141]

Batman of the future is to batman beyond as marathon is to a snickers.

[@lettersnstuff]

I will miss the greenscreen, if it doesn’t come back, but fact fiend feels the same, and that’s what counts.

[@TwoRoaches]

I'm American it was batman beyond here. That's like you had teenager mutant hero turtles, we had ninja turtles.

[@citizen-7xl5]

Didn’t know Kevin Conroy was gay, I hope his husband is doing ok.

[@Original_Syn]

The Barracuda(the car that the 2022 Batmobile was built from) is so awesome. By itself already looks something from a comic book so it was a perfect base for the Batmobile to be built from. I love it because it harkens back to the original Adam West Batmobile because like the 60s version it’s just a cool car that was turned into the Dark Knight’s ride while also still being its own thing.

[@jubileechallenge4482]

I don't thing everyone complaining about Robert Pattinson as Batman was merely critiquing his acting abilities. At the end of the day Batman is a power fantasy and for many fans, Pattinson's soft or gentle personality and looks was a mismatch for a buff, powerful vigilante.

[@xetsuay1346]

I've never heard the title "batman of the future". Grew up in Texas and it was always Batman beyond.

[@MobUnchained]

Love the new format. I do wonder, why the sudden change? To be a fly on that wall.

[@tannerjepperson9327]

As an American I have never once heard somebody refer to Batman Beyond as Batman of the Future

[@Manofvideos292]

I love hearing the alternate/different titles to movies and shows inside and outside the U.S. It reminds of books that have 2 titles or the Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoons.

[@Cynnfull]

Petition to bring back the coloured corners in the thumbnail

[@Briux34]

The only people that I knew who didn’t call “Batman beyond” was the people who didn’t know the name of the show, I have never heard of someone called it “Batman of the future”

[@perteraboofolympus150]

Pattinson is a really well rounded actor same thing goes for Daniel Radcliff everyone just views him as Harry Potter but his smaller indie film stuff is great also the woman in black was great.

[@dyll101]

that joe doe fits really wel with the joker

[@johnbartlett8643]

I still can't believe you ain't done a video about ragnarok yet

[@supremejared6595]

it’s definitely batman beyond over here tho lmao

[@neoshenlong]

"as if america is the only place that exists" Yup. That happens quite often in the internet doesn't it

[@draketurtle4169]

No wonder the ps4 sounded like a jet engine… it’s in a box with limited air to circulate and cool it.

[@cloudvszell]

I'd say why people didn't care about it, is because it wasn't made into a publicly stunt. Like we had the guy who played magneto was gay but it wasn't the focal point it wasn't we chose him because of his sexual preference. He was a good actor who fit the role and that's what people want pick actors that are going to excel at their roles not based on the sexual preferences. So ya if you came out and announced any role in pretty well any movie was selected based on that then ya people would be mad.

[@cameronpolite2199]

So I will say I agree with you all in part of people letting online personalities form their personalities too much. But also, it's not a bad thing to listen to someone who can explain their opinion in a well spoken way. And then agreeing with them, as sometimes KZbinrs also have good opinions. And discounting people who say the same thing just because a KZbinr said the samething doesn't really add to the conversation.

[@SmolFrogge]

Everyone has a bold bat in a belfry.

[@aletcetera9883]

I thought I might need a bondulance when they mixed up the titles for Batman Beyond for a few seconds. Absolutely put my entire reality into question.

[@MartialArtsFilmFreak]

Yeah I’m Batman Beyond here in America. Always has been.

[@catborg780]

This made me think of Diedrich bader. He was great in The brave & the bold. I think he'd do good as a serious Batman