Factory to Table: Part - 3 The 188gr. Selous Rounds by Discreet Ballistics

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The Factory to Table series continues with Part -3. I head up to Northern New Hampshire to meet up with David Stark of Discreet Ballistics. He helps me with making some hunting loads for my new 300 Blackout MiniFix and Trash Panda Silencer by Q LLC.
Discreet Ballistics specializes in subsonic loads for a number of calibers. I end up loading a number of his 188gr Machined Copper Selous rounds. Designed to expand at subsonic speeds creating significant damage upon impact. Perfect rounds for hunting with subsonic 300 Blackout...
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[@Glandash]

As someone who has lived the Manufacturing life for a decade, it’s fun to see people who have zero experience in it try it out.

[@KitBadger]

There is a lot that goes on that people aren't aware of. :)

[@mrsergeylandesman]

Thanks!

[@clo5168]

Sweet video. Discrete Ballistics is my favorite sub. The only subs I run through my Fix and Honey Badger.

[@KitBadger]

Thanks Christopher. And yes, they make some amazing ammo.

[@TheReal_JohnDoeSmith]

Cold weather. Fine tuning ammo. Whiskey and warmth. Bad religion. The audio and visual freedom charge......!

[@KitBadger]

Good times. :)

[@MsHodgey]

Can't wait for the hunt

[@KitBadger]

:)

[@almosttactical3842]

So, you pushed a button and the machine loaded your ammo for you!? Too freakin awesome. Like I said before Ivan....... 2A Baller Lifestyle! I'll think of a word for it.👍👍👍

[@KitBadger]

In fairness, I DID have to load the machine up. And inspect. And package... Sometimes life is hard, haha. I'm super grateful for all the opportunities. :)

[@ncb2734]

Awesome colouring on the moderator. Nice quiet round

[@KitBadger]

Thanks Nick!

[@oregonoutback7779]

I like the artwork on the walls at the 4:00 mark. I'm really liking this little mini-cannon you built.

[@KitBadger]

Ya, he has some awesome test guns for his ammo. :)

[@oregonoutback7779]

@@KitBadger… That makes his art collection a legit, deductible, business expense. Sweet !!

[@sconner5424]

@@KitBadger nice looking 527 behind David's head. Do you know what he is running for glass and can?

[@KitBadger]

@@sconner5424 not sure off hand. He is pretty responsive on social if you reach out though.

[@kentuckyjustice1408]

I've been avoiding the 300 Blackout because... I really don't know why. I think I'm going to have to get a 300 AR upper. I'm really liking this series. Looking forward to Part 4. "Thumbs up" from this Kentucky boy.

[@KitBadger]

I avoided it for awhile as well. Time to embrace it man, it is here to stay. Thanks for the thumbs up! :)

[@almosttactical3842]

Do it. Do it. I dare you. Double dare.

[@mebyard1]

I’m enjoying this series Ivan. 💯

[@KitBadger]

Thanks Mark, I'm going to end up doing more in the future I'd imagine.

[@shrubjr893]

Mini Fix is sooo sick!! Damn thats cool!

[@KitBadger]

It is pretty amazing... :)

[@connerlamphier8550]

That silencer blows better O's than any vape god.

[@shizl73]

Like that raw tube too..looks crazy nice

[@Michaeldpress14]

Perfect whitetail setup

[@KitBadger]

Agreed. :)

[@mattberry4457]

with low level 357 mag ballistics i'm thinking a lack of penetration and quite the drop at any distance past 100 yards.

[@KitBadger]

@@mattberry4457 aside from out West, probably over 90% of deer are taken inside 100 yards. Despite all the tall tales out there...

[@Michaeldpress14]

matt berry In National Forests of east tx a 50 yard shot is long . You could always run supersonic ammo past 100 yards

[@jeffyoung2089]

Great video!

[@KitBadger]

Thanks Jeff!

[@shizl73]

Great videos...you hooked like me on Q stuff.

[@212driller]

Usually takes me about 250-500rds in my rifles before they reach the right amount of copper fouling to tighten things up a bit. Such a cool rifle, I'm jealous! If I win a small lottery I'll buy one of these in a second!

[@KitBadger]

Ya, that barrel is shooting pretty good for me, especially with subs.

[@212driller]

@@KitBadger awesome! Its a really cool rig.

[@SlowrideSteve]

Those rounds look gnarly

[@KitBadger]

Ya, they are pretty legit when they expand...

[@SlowrideSteve]

Gotta ask, How much are they?

[@KitBadger]

discreetballistics.com/shop/300aac-blackout/

[@prestonvandivier1379]

@@KitBadger the photos of those expanded are crazy!

[@KitBadger]

Yep, pretty devastating.

[@ricktenter1631]

Nice work, I'm looking forward to pt 4

[@KitBadger]

Thanks Rick! I should have it up next Friday.

[@shrubjr893]

So, I been thinkin about this... I've watched this vid like a hundred times because I want a mini fix so freakin bad! Anyway, I think if a guy did barrel break-in with supersonics, it would hasten the break-in period due to the extra friction on the rifling from the higher pressure/more heat/friction of supers. Then everything, including subs, would group tighter. Just a random thought. Thanks for making this vid! Its the most mini fix shooting footage on the net!

[@KitBadger]

Very possible, I hadn't thought of that.

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

Ivan is like the Q mascot at this point. WWG1WG......oh sh*t, wrong Q....

[@KitBadger]

Hahaha.

[@NosActivated420]

Free ammo is always good!

[@KitBadger]

Especially awesome high quality ammo. :)

[@891496127]

I don't know what happened but maybe I wasn't paying attention. Didn't know you built the mini fix in 300 blackout. Very cool. Nice to be able to make some of your own ammo. Can't decide what to put I my 300 pistol. Maybe red dot, 1x6 or combo red dot accs reticle. Any thoughts Ivan? Thanks

[@KitBadger]

I think the application would answer your question for you Alexander. What do you plan on using it for, how far are you doing to shoot it? I'd play with both. I have, I see the application of both of them, depending on environment.

[@wp4586]

Is Q selling that unfinished suppressor to us lowly regular citizens?

[@KitBadger]

No, I had welded it up two days before, it hadn't had time to get PVD coated.

[@TinkerTailorSoldier1]

Kit Badger what does PVD do besides corrosion resistance?

[@KitBadger]

@@TinkerTailorSoldier1 just a strong finish for abrasion and what not I believe.

[@mlgm4112]

Sick peace btw

[@KitBadger]

Thanks, I'm pretty stoked on it. :)

[@mlgm4112]

Kit Badger what are you hunting with it?

[@KitBadger]

Probably Bear.

[@mlgm4112]

Kit Badger coo

[@SoldierO7]

Great video as always Ivan. I'm super envious of that Mini-Fix now that the only thing I really do these days is suppressed, subsonic plinking. I've been impatiently waiting for this thing to hit the market, and I'm wondering whether I should just scratch the itch and get a full size Fix in 308.

[@KitBadger]

Thanks man! And personally, I would get the full size Fix if I were you. Eventually you'll be able to get a 8.6 barrel for it and shoot some awesome subs.

[@SoldierO7]

@@KitBadger That's a good point I hadn't considered. At the rate Form 1's are going these days I could probably buy a Fix and SBR it before the 300 AAC Mini's are even available. Then I'd be all set once the 12.5" 8.6 barrels hit the market later this year.

[@haroldellis9721]

and I thought a Dillion 550B was something special. I was wrong, so terribly wrong.

[@lucasblanchard47]

5:35 does Q sell those Honey Badger mats too??

[@KitBadger]

Yes they do.

[@silentbob267]

New sub here. TGC sent me.

[@KitBadger]

Awesome, thanks for coming over!

[@bavariasuhl]

minFix preorder was made in Feb 2018, still waiting.

[@KitBadger]

They are putting those out now, in .224 Valkyrie. Hopefully yours will be along soon.

[@marctrossbach6560]

Anything from Q is well worth the wait . No, you don't get a bottle opener like Larue, but you get a phenomenal product and its designed ONLY for laying down scunion. No guess work, nothing. Take a minute and look at the thought that was put into the barrel and gas block assembly and you will understand

[@josephkuser3998]

Great video thx! I know that ending song was bad religion but what was the song?

[@KitBadger]

Thanks buddy! And actually Pennywise, Nothing to Lose.

[@garretthegun4982]

Did you have the option to add blue or brown accents like the 308/6.5 fix, when building the mini fix?

[@KitBadger]

No, different platform.

[@FSUGrad01]

Does the colder temps effect dialing in the ammo at all?

[@KitBadger]

Not enough to matter for my purposes.

[@derekddurbin]

Very nice I have a fix in 308, what can should I get? Thunder chicken? The extra little weight and length are negligible but it’s a lot quieter than a trash panda right? Thanks bro

[@KitBadger]

I'd go with the Thunder Chicken personally, but you can't make a wrong choice: kitbadger.com/trash-panda-or-thunder-chicken-on-a-honey-badger/

[@BaddFrogg777]

Will this configuration be available this year? In the 300 BLK and with the brace? Thank you.

[@KitBadger]

Probably, not sure what quarter.

[@Michaeldpress14]

Dude I have been stacking hogs with this round

[@KitBadger]

They are awesome aren't they. :)

[@YaketyYakDontTalkBack]

That is stupid quiet.

[@KitBadger]

Pretty fun. :)

[@masterkysar]

Prototype Q can? Or just something you requested?

[@bradtidball5206]

He put it together in the last video and it hasn't been coated yet

[@thegolflife7565]

Was that Surefire Socom 300 can better or worse than the Q cans sound wise? Blowback ?

[@KitBadger]

Not sure, I haven't shot them side by side, or on the same host. I will say the SF cans are super heavy and I'm not at all a fan of the mounting method.

[@thegolflife7565]

Kit Badger Did you get a can from Q without the PVD?

[@KitBadger]

Bead blasted.

[@trinityfxofficial]

Is it possible to order a trash panda unfinished?

[@KitBadger]

Nope. :(

[@paulredrac2526]

How long did it take to get approved for your SBR?

[@KitBadger]

I have a FFL and SOT, so immidiatelyish...

[@davedave2941]

That mini Fix 😍 #Q_Fix

[@KitBadger]

It is the hotness...

[@FartCrack]

Pretty cool gun.... if u so happen to see this comment what’s the name of the gun your using and is it an SBR or not?

[@Namesi]

Mini-Fix by Q

[@KitBadger]

Part 1 goes over the build, it is a Pistol.

[@kylevanwinkle2081]

So hunting with a 45acp? The energy will be similar if not more then what you get out of sub sonic 300blk. Hunting with supers I get but subs I personally wouldnt hunt with

[@dstark3383]

Kyle Vanwinkle hunting with subs takes a lot of practice to account for drop past 50yds. With good shot placement this bullet does the job on any medium size game

[@kylevanwinkle2081]

@@dstark3383 yea sure but it's still ways down on projectile energy. On thin skinned animals up close you may do ok but the wound is gonna have to be precise and likely not hit a shoulder blade less it stop there and wound the animal

[@dstark3383]

Kyle Vanwinkle Have you seen how these bullets open up? Hundreds if not thousands animals have been successfully taken with them -most of which are feral hogs

[@kylevanwinkle2081]

@@dstark3383 the problem with bullets that expand rapidly is that they often drop their energy in the target before penetrating deep enough to hit the vitals. Especially if the projectile hits a shoulder bone or any other bone

[@discreetballistics2932]

@@kylevanwinkle2081 With subsonic 300BLK bullets that's actually more of an issue with fracturing (not expanding) bullets. We've measured bullet penetration 13-16" depending on the velocity. Sure, subsonic bullets have a energy deficit compared to supersonic bullets, and no doubt expanding supersonic bullets will be more traumatic. This doesn't mean skilled hunters can't take game ethically within 100yds. Subsonic hunting is not for everyone.

[@dylanwatkins1019]

What kinda game are you talking about hunting with subsonic ammo?

[@KitBadger]

All the Games... :) Probably bear.

[@dylanwatkins1019]

@@KitBadgerI'm a hunter myself and i feel that it *could* be unethical, considering that immediate incopasitation is less likely with a subsonic load compared to something that is going over 2000fps and i understand shot placement is everything. But penetration is going to be far less or at least energy tranfer will be far less. I would like to hear your thoughts on this.

[@KitBadger]

​@@dylanwatkins1019 you already said it man, shot placement is everything. I came into hunting late, from the military. And the more time I've spent around hunters, the more unethical I think a lot (not all) of them are on a whole. Duplex reticle, no idea of what their drop is for different ranges, not confirming zero, no fundamentals of marksmanship or understanding of creating a good shooting position and often shooting beyond their capability... The first 3 or 4 deer I took when I started hunting were with head shots. 5.56 out of an AR, some of which with open sights, all probably around 50 yards. Not one of them took a step. But if you ask hunters if that was ethical, they would largely say no...

[@dylanwatkins1019]

@@KitBadger i would agree with you on all those point about *alot* of hunters. The way im looking at it is, yeah subsonic 300blk is cool, it's Hollywood quiet and has its merits. But your already using a rifle. So why not use 110gr-150gr and get the full potential of said round? It's not like your hunting with a handgun. By the way im glad be could have a civil discord. Its not to common on the internet 😄.....

[@KitBadger]

I hear you Dylan, but to take advantage of the caliber and set up, I chose subs. We'll see how it all plays out... :)

[@mlgm4112]

Man I wish I could shot more I hate living in the city

[@overlandoffroadadventures8980]

mlg,m411 try living in California 😫

[@mlgm4112]

Overland off Road Adventures lmfao I do live in California

[@overlandoffroadadventures8980]

mlg,m411 lol oh! You know how it sucks too then. Beautiful here in nor cal tho

[@mlgm4112]

Overland off Road Adventures lmao I'm not gonna lie most of my guns aren't California compliant I can't go to gun ranges and I have to drive 3 hours to the mountains 😂

[@frostfirei]

Define Northern NH. It it not above Franconia notch, then is sisn't in Nothern NH. I live there, 50 miles frm Canada.

[@KitBadger]

Did you type this when you were drunk Sasha?

[@TheWesman45]

I hope you butcher the deer and show us cooking it. You can’t make everything else and not show the entire process.

[@KitBadger]

I don't think you'll be disappointed Wes... :)

[@TheWesman45]

Kit Badger Awesome.