FAILED SHOWER SPOT BONDED TILES

[@StarrTile]

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[@johntilson2535]

I'm a handyman, good with my hands and I can mimic anyone. I don't know everything (who does?) but I try to find someone who knows the most about what I'm attempting to do. I don't do tile, per se, as my expertise is plumbing but a couple of occasions arose where I was asked to replace a prefab shower stall with a custom tiled enclosure and another, from the same customer, a repair of a 6 year old tub conversion that had gone horribly wrong (leaking from the ceiling below). In both cases, I watched Bob Doyle's videos extensively along with a few others, (Sal and Isaac) and found Bob to be the master. So, I employed the 'Doyle method' on both projects and achieved excellent results with the added bonus having the confidence of being able to walk away and not look back. Some of these others (see previously mentioned) talk smack about Bob but their methods just didn't ring true to me. So if anyone reading my comment is a skilled DIY, handyman or tiler and wishes to learn or improve or even HIRE Mr. Doyle? He is the best on KZbin and the best at his craft!

[@hotbam37]

I totally agree, when I started doing showers I chose to learn from professor Doyle because he speaks logic to every thing he does. Some of the others are just too by the book. Bob should be writing the book though, a true master of his craft.

[@marcleblanc7021]

I have never seen someone get so excited to call out someone elses mistakes and praise themselves like Starr. The man has great knowledge and things to share, allow your work brag for you.

[@xXBuckOFiveXx]

When the lowest bidder wins, the customer loses.

[@hamsonthehill]

I'm a 67 y/o woman and am going to tackle a complete shower and bathroom renovation. I have been watching your videos to learn how to do it. I'm not a complete novice in renovations but have learned a ton on how to do the bathroom renovation from your vids. I've watched other videos but learned the most from yours. Since I'm starting from the stud level I will be able to do it right from the beginning.

[@StarrTile]

Thank you so much for the kind words...you might want to watch this Friday's video since it is a complete very beginning to the very end time lapse of a shower build.. not sure if you'll extrapolate any information but it might be worth watching. And the best of luck to you on your project👍

[@eddiepullman4776]

Hey starr tile~ love the videos. I’m a tile installer up here in New York. Some of these jobs you come across are mind boggling. It’s scary to know these people are out there. Worst job I’ve ever seen was years ago, guy set 2x2 directly over vinyl in shower pan. I think you can imagine the rest.

[@jonathananderson1510]

I thought you were being too hard on the previous installer until I saw your finished job. Wow, you are the man.

[@Frankie431]

I have real river rock for my shower pan and its been good for over 5 years, the grout hasn’t deteriorated so far.

[@romualdoduarte5521]

Great video bob you came in gave a quick story about the shower. You show the old shower ,process ,final product . And a final interview with a happy homeowner. Totally crush it 💪🏻💪🏻

[@GlennFricke]

Our builder spot bonded our shower wall tiles, after it failed after 1 year, I was able to tear it all off and reuse it on the floor tile on OSB (that also failed after 1 year). Its way more prevalent than people think

[@AdirondackNY]

"Think Like Water" is one of your sayings that makes people stop & think.

[@tscoffey1]

Once I saw the biceps on your customer, I knew he had to be a firefighter. The guy has kept himself in shape, post-retirement.

[@MotleyStew]

Amazing job, as always, Sir. Very much enjoyed the first-hand customer feedback bit at the end!

[@matthewdoyle4418]

Thank you to the home owner for his service as a firefighter

[@douglas60040]

Thanks for showing the pics of the proper steps you took to rebuild the shower, as well as the obvious internal and external mistakes.

[@MinecraftPro97k]

That mosaic installation is terrifying! I felt it just by watching it!

[@flipp308]

I have came across a few jobs with spot bonding. Should never be done, enjoy your videos very informative. Thanks for sharing. “FLIP

[@douglasschmidt6873]

In Florida we have to use pt on the slab we would fail our framing inspection I guess you could use it for just the first board that’s sitting on the slab but The construction standard down here is 3 pt 2 by’s

[@capt2278]

Love the start of this video.. great shots and music

[@ZomBeatBrainZ]

It's done with the margin trowel. Plop your blob then you drag through it with the margin trowel.

[@willinthearea6318]

I used to live in Florida. Probably 80% of the installers build showers like this. Florida is probably the cheapest state to do tile work. People are paying $1000 for a shower..... $1.60 sq ft for floors.....Third world wages. Those tile guys have to skip corners in order to put food on the table and they still struggle to make ends meet 😥 You can make more money laying laminate than tile in FL. Too many tile guys, too many unlicensed contractors, too many cheap customers.

[@apex007]

Hey, according to your previous posts this seems to be your work.

[@willinthearea6318]

@@apex007 No, this is why i had to move out of Florida.....I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if i did a hack job like that. My jobs are flat, square, plumb and full thinset coverage.

[@jonathancupsie471]

Building a shower is by far the most complicated thing you can do in a house.

[@undonesofficial]

I probably would've raised that shower head out of the mosaics, but good job on the second round. Sometimes lippage is unavoidable when you have 12"×24" tiles and lay them on a brick pattern. Ultimately your finished product is determined by how well the wall was framed.

[@Elier1984]

You can use a leveling system to make the level

[@undonesofficial]

@@Elier1984 a levelling system helps, yes, but is not 100% effective. Especially when almost all rectangular shaped tile have a slight bow in them; when doing a brick pattern it's very hard to eliminate even with a levelling system. That's why they say to do a 1/3 offset instead of 1/2, because the bow of the tile is most prominent at the middle of the tile.

[@harrisclarkson6584]

“Tiny small RUSSET potatoes” lol

[@peterhardy5011]

the tiles in my kitchen are (dot and dab) spot bonded to the walls and they have been in place for over 30 years with no problems, spot bonding tiles can be an effective way to bond tiles to an uneven wall, granted i would NOT spot bond in a shower, but to do so in other areas is perfectly acceptable

[@Alchete]

The original installer's thought process for using only thinset on top of the curb was likely because he didn't want to screw through his pan liner from the top.

[@harrisclarkson6584]

Damn Mr. Reed is JACKED

[@MalleusSemperVictor]

I want to redo my bathrooms with tile but your videos intimidate me.

[@bomorgan138]

Nah, let his videos educate and encourage you. Don’t attempt the job until you’ve finish your degree at KZbin university. Watch hours and hours of Starrtile, and Sal Diblasi.

[@tinman1955]

Thanks for the useful info.

[@ciscothekid9131]

Like your videos man very informational I learned some new things I’d like to try myself.

[@kaboom362]

At first like you said. It didn't look too bad. Good from far but far from good.

[@dannyburriss383]

He used that linoleum as a spacer to bring the mosaics out even with the wall tiles. Poor job

[@Hitm8kr]

Danny Burriss I hurt my sides when I saw that. That was funny as hell.

[@Frankie431]

🤣🤣🤣nah man that’s economic waterproofing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@alexbat4313]

@@Hitm8kr !+

[@tgnnikes99]

Im a new homeowner and building a shower. Did you use thin-set on the floor? To make it level?

[@MoneyManHolmes]

I’m surprised the cheapskate used white thinset. He could’ve saved a couple bucks by using gray.

[@jburr36]

Wow. One can really see the square outlines in the river rock tile on the floor really stands out and doesn't look natural

[@bigalhague]

When I did the river rock in my shower I laid each rock individually just to avoid the outline. The rocks are supposed to be honed but the sheets I had were all different thicknesses and I had to discard a lot of rocks that weren't honed completely.

[@eddiepullman4776]

jburr36 We interlock them random. I see this a lot, you literally see every sheet. Absolute shit work.

[@ozzy2753]

What do you do about the super sharp corners on the schluter 45’s ?

[@StarrTile]

Run a fine file over it

[@BT-kt7gb]

12 x 12 peel and stick tile, Lowe's sells it. I worked there for 13 years.

[@georgetalleyii5085]

I like startile, I learn here !

[@slavisasegrt4363]

Hi nice video. What was the reason for putting redgard in shower pan? thanks

[@StarrTile]

To make it waterproof

[@slavisasegrt4363]

@@StarrTile I got that but why? Isn't it point to let water go through the weep holes?

[@StarrTile]

@@slavisasegrt4363 yes some people would say that but if you're waterproofing the surface then the whole idea of the water getting to the weep holes becomes a moot issue and not relevant any further.. And by the way those 4 weep holes are only part of a drain flange that allows water to drain..don't be focused on those alone, but going forward we're trying to prevent water from getting into the pan to begin with so we don't have any issues

[@ozzy2753]

Which leveling system do you use? I bought the qep from homedepot and didn’t like them very much

[@StarrTile]

I've used those too...wasn't impressed. I use T-Lock clips, pricey but good

[@dustinmoore5894]

Rubi leveling system works great also

[@deletedaccount5250]

Good music taste Bob

[@tsunamidesignandbuild3195]

They didn't even take the sticker off cement board 😒

[@richardmiller257]

He used the linoleum to make the mosaic stack up closer to the wall tile

[@hotdawg9840]

It looks like he may have used like a 6-inch or 8-inch sheetrock mud knife to apply that maybe? The only thing I could think of that makes it look goofy like that and I'm pretty sure that's what he did

[@dustinmoore5894]

Margin trowel is why I think he used

[@chisty4436]

In England we use shower trays and a red guard type system. Why why why do you Americans ‘make a shower floor’? Tiled shower floors are awful anyway. Jeez just use shower trays and you dispense with all that malarkey. Love your forensic appraisal of tile work though 😊

[@Chiko929]

Fold the trim instead of doing 45

[@samuelbolin8523]

Linoleum hasn’t been made for years because of asbestos. That is sheet vinyl.

[@tylercrumley2788]

Would’ve wrapped tile around corners would’ve made it look cleaner

[@MrTooTechnical]

kick ass

[@peterboissiere9684]

They need to watch ur videos

[@stanghp1]

I should of been a firefighter.... SMH

[@mikekings5265]

Man i understand u as a pro you can point that out to get jobs and the cust would be like oh yeah you know what ur doing but if its not leaking who gives a flying fuck

[@StarrTile]

I mentioned that at the beginning..I said I didn't think it was leaking and was not happy about tearing it out...it's the homeowner who wanted it gone...then it became clear it would've failed regardless. It's never my desire to fix whats not broke.

[@kabboud]

Pretty sure he used the linoleum behind the deco tile to bring it up to the same plane as the tile. Deco are almost always about 1/16 to 1/8 of an inch thinner than typical 1/4" wall tile.