Failling a Fiancé

[@4everThoughtful]

I'm with the plaintiff here 100%. When I just SAVED you 40% with an advance loan (and you contribute $0 towards household expenses), yet when I ask you for your tax return that doesn't even cover 1/3rd of the amount that I just loaned you & YOU WON'T, then we can't have a meeting of the minds or hearts. She was in a win-win position and he was in a lose-lose. The $900 may have been an afterthought BUT even with giving it to him, she was still saving the 40% that otherwise would have accumulated to much more than $900. "Oh, what about the ring?" I believe that the plaintiff can do better.

[@mysticaccy]

She was hoping to have another man to support her and she do nothing in return lol

[@I.am.Mrs.Mathers]

The thing he said at the end is so true. Trust is everything

[@elora.2.x]

over money??? he even said... he was over the top and out of character.... he was a controlling man didn't get what he wanted from her.... anything that comes out of his mouth ain't wise it's him trying to convince people what he did wasn't a over reaction.... when everyone thinks it is.... 🤣🤣 he fucked up and tried to get her back which in turn shows everyone even he knew he was wrong.... she had a lucky escape

[@I.am.Mrs.Mathers]

@@elora.2.x no doubt the guy’s a sh*thead but those words were true. I don’t side with him at all and know he’s a manipulator

[@ipman4715]

@@elora.2.x i agree with you.. He broke up then his attempt to get back with her failed; walking out of the courtroom his position changed back to he couldn't trust her ... She dodged a bullet

[@Ralphbo-u6l]

And he dodged a bullet. They was both peas in a pod . They both had baggage and scars.

[@phyllisneither9097]

Thank God she's able to escape this man. Pay him and run

[@janedougherty3327]

I really liked the plaintiff. He helped her more than anyone else. He deserves someone that is willing to be a partner with him. Trust is everything.

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

I agree!!!💯👏🏾👏🏾

[@mrshappilymarried1]

They both dodged a bullet...they're not bad people but not really compatible either. They moved too fast.

[@saramichele7366]

This felt like more of a couple's counseling session than it did a court case.😂

[@alycew.787]

I think even the Judge thought she had some nerve to ask for the engagement ring.

[@katymcginn4644]

😒 RIGHT! WITH ALL THE MONEY SHE SAVED IN INTEREST FROM HIM PAYING DOWN HER CREDIT CARDS. SHE CAN NOW GO BUY HERSELF HER OWN RING💍😂

[@marys4565]

I'm with the plaintiff. I don't think he overreacted. Trust is key. We are how we are from experience

[@AlenaReed-by5sd]

😂😂😂😂

[@kylahaynes4099]

Everyone attacking this man, heaven forbid you have standards and expectations 🙄

[@de4700]

The ones attacking the man are the very sort to cheat and steal.

[@brendan11707]

Ikr, he overreacted but if he was being honest about the tax return, I don’t see anything he did that was especially bad

[@italiantraditionalcatholic2390]

well, she was right..she she should of communicated before paying the other credit card

[@adenikeneerah1652]

The minute she asked for the ring I knew the type of person she is.

[@Wlk1022]

I don't think the judge understood what the defendent was saying about the tax check. The woman was trying to say that he asked for the $900 AFTER she already paid off the 3rd card. Not that she agreed to pay the $900 and just decided to pay off the 3rd card instead. But the judge just wasn't listening to what she was saying. Who knows what really happened but that was frustrating lol

[@shawn8695]

Omg yes I was like how many times does she have to repeat that. She really didn’t understand.

[@entheo302]

She understood, she just didn’t buy it

[@lilmunchie0811]

No she knew before she got her taxes that she was coughing up that 900 and when he waited and waited for her to tell him hey here's your 900 so he asked and that's when she told him she had already spent it

[@intheredcold9216]

While she does need to pay him back she doesn't strike me as a gold digger but he does strike me as a control freak. She dodged a bullet.

[@MsTruthhurts007]

You don't know what he has been through in the past to be fair. No trust what type of relationship will they have. It's best for both to part ways.

[@intheredcold9216]

@@MsTruthhurts007 Of course not. When I comment I can only base it on what I've seen. If it turns out she's money grubbing then I have no problem calling her out. There are plenty of women at fault in relationships. But to me she came off truthful and he came off dickish.

[@schnydersimon9282]

Qq

[@Unsympathetic-yi4qb]

He kept saying it was about trust. In listening to his expectation; telling her to also pay him her tax return after they agreed to terms? He wants her to listen to and do what he says, and was upset when she didn’t do so. That sounds like a control issue.

[@intheredcold9216]

@@Unsympathetic-yi4qb Exactly.

[@DonziGT230]

Her asking about the ring sealed the deal on what she is.

[@katymcginn4644]

😒 YEP, SO UNCOUTH 😑

[@NubianP6]

@Marilyn Willett I agree. I cringed when she said it, but does the most part, she comes across as a pretty decent person.

[@lcam9241]

@@NubianP6 pretty decent person???? 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@StevenDoh]

So this guy, let's her live with him rent free for a year, pays off her credit card, puts her life back on track.....and she has the audacity to act as if he's a bad man? She asks for the ring back at the end as well the says THANK FOD she didn't marry him? Classless user of a woman. She suckered him big time

[@yung1717]

When did she act like he was a bad man? Oh brother

[@elaine462]

You sound like you've been burned yourself and you don't trust women at all.

[@Lilyrose23]

Sometimes there’s no good guy or bad guy and this case is the example. They both got divorced and lost trust and faith in people, he wanted to make sure she didn’t use him for money and she wanted to make sure he didn’t control her with money so they divorced before the wedding. She’s wise to not quit her job and follow a man who proved that he can kick her out in seconds, and he’s also not ready to get married if 98% of trust and love isn’t enough.

[@EnriqueJay1998]

Wow you really put it into words. You have a great analysis. You’d do well in a literature setting!

[@litchielitch0323]

Spot on

[@trekgirl65]

In order for the Plaintiff to be divorced, he would have to have married the Defendant. They were not married when they split up. LMAO! Not married, no divorce.

[@Lilyrose23]

@@trekgirl65 Hopefully you don’t read fictional books or watch movies because news to you “it’s fake” 😂 writers rely on the readers to have common sense and fill in the gap or understand sarcasm, similes and metaphors.

[@redduskironsky1058]

​@@Lilyrose23really weird comment on your part. This has nothing to do with whatever the hell your fingers typed😂

[@yvettecruz6038]

I find it interesting that he can cry about trust when he blindsided her with demanding to change the terms of the agreement. He’s no better then her.

[@CreamIceMs]

Exactly... How could she trust making a deal with him again knowing that he will change his mind in the future?

[@trekgirl65]

Yes he is much worse than she.

[@app1mxh]

It changed AFTER he was notified that she was getting $900 back. She was living rent free. Gotta pay something for roof over her own head.

[@cecynay7369]

There was new information and he suggested a change to the terms that she agreed to. An addendum to the terms that they both agreed to is not him being untrustworthy.

[@yvettecruz6038]

@@app1mxh this is exactly why I have NEVER borrowed money from anyone. A lot of people who loan money love to watch the other persons wallet. He finds out she’s getting $900 and all the sudden he’s like I want ALL of it! He states I know she wasn’t happy with giving me the $900. So why not just back off and go by the terms of the original agreement? It wasn’t like he wasn’t going to get paid anyway. And he was perfectly happy with paying for her living expenses until she paid off her credit card debt. He never mentioned needing any financial help. In fact he kept saying “the loan was my gift to her”. In my opinion they both were wrong. She should have been honest and said “l’m not giving you my $900. I will be paying you $200 a month like we originally agreed”. But no she went behind his back and spent HER money the way she wanted to. Smh people make things so complicated when they aren’t honest.

[@RicKyir]

she wanted to sale that ring for money..that's why she brought it up😩😩🤣🤣

[@brennenjones6658]

@Tiger Bandaid *Meant? Pretty sure that's what you MEANT...a grown man (or woman 🤷🏿‍♂️) who doesn't know the difference is scary.

[@jamsaidemelo1367]

@Tiger Bandaid You must feel like a big person trying to pick at everyone. I hope it helps you accomplish peace within.

[@michaelbrandon1222]

That's definitely why lol I didn't catch that. It's funny that women think they can keep the engagement ring after the engagement ends lol

[@Reallychris_]

@@brennenjones6658 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the perfect response!

[@brennenjones6658]

@@Reallychris_ Just saying, lol. We all knew what he MEANT here with his comment. I always find it hilarious that the ones trying to correct someone oftentimes comment with mistakes of their own.

[@tmendez31]

In my opinion the woman asking about the engagement ring says it all. There is not a single reason to even ask about the ring because they never got married unless she wants the ring regardless of that fact.

[@gme671]

She was just in it for the money even when asking for the ring back

[@katymcginn4644]

💜 THANK YOU, SO TACKY! SHE ACTED LIKE SHE DESERVED THE RING STILL! EVEN THOUGH THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE A WEDDING BETWEEN THEM 😒 AFTER HE WAS SO NICE, SHE THOUGHT SHE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE 😑😞

[@lynndominic1967]

I knew I was going to go for a ride when she said “My first divorce” at the beginning 😅

[@stefanieromay2212]

I love watching middle aged ppl in relationships like they're youngsters and loaning money, etc and it not working out. Good to know some wisdom does not come with age and life experiences.

[@jenniehughes6927]

"Youngsters "? That seems to be a word from quite a few decades ago. 😅

[@lol.3460]

Yes. Older folks hate when I say "just bc you’re older does not mean you’re wiser. You can also just have been dumb longer than I’ve been alive" 😂😂

[@oliviarose5030]

Many of us are just as stupid as we were in our twenties. We’re just too lazy and tired to do anything actively stupid.

[@justzee1574]

This is judgmental statement. People are human and make mistakes at all stages of life.

[@syw9882]

🙄 these people don’t know real problems. This was nothing to sever a relationship over. That being said, if they are the type to call it quits, it’s a good thing they did so now before any greater challenges surfaced.

[@caramama1731]

Lol sadly they do know real problems, that's why they both had divorces..they didn't want it happening for a second time

[@naturalanimals8902]

The guy wants his money; money he worked hard for. I am sure he left because he say her as only a lying taker who added no value whatsoever to his life. If she brought something that was a fair exchange; he would still be with her; but the problem with western women; is that they believe that they are entitled to a man's money and they only have to bring their vagina to the table. They might get away with this when they are younger; but few men would do this for an older woman. No woman's company is worth this much money.

[@naturalanimals8902]

I am not attacking him. He owes her nothing. He took her on with a load of debt and tried to help her out and she conned him. At her age; I will confidently predict that she would be lucky to find another man. Most women I know at her age are single; the older they get; the tougher it gets. They guy was raped in the divorce court before and he now knows that women haven't got his best interest at heart. Good luck to him. I wish he was my dad. Women can go out and earn their own money; there is no need for men to squander their money on them. At his age, a man should be traveling, enjoying his hobbies and his friends; not immersing himself in the chaos that this old woman brings.

[@syw9882]

@@naturalanimals8902 😂 who hurt you, baby?

[@naturalanimals8902]

@@syw9882 : I have heard this every time I call out women; and they are usually fat, single mothers. You can tell when someone is a single mother; because she has a limited vocabulary and is incapable of saying anything new; they just keep repeating the same old "Who hurt you" like a deranged Parrott. How about nobody hurt me; I realize that most black women are fat, single mothers, give all their money to the church; have bad attitudes and have a long track record of being unable to sustain a long term relationship or to find a husband; so this makes them non wife material.

[@CeltycSparrow]

I kind of see both of their perspectives on this. He thought he was doing his fiancée a favor by helping her pay off her credit card debts and improve her credit before they were married...the deal he makes with her is "I will pay off your debt and you can pay me the $200 you were paying on your credit card bill, and as my gift to you, I won't charge you the 40% interest, so you can pay it back faster. But then AFTER they strike this deal, he suddenly CHANGES the terms of the deal by saying "You can start chipping away at what you owe me, by giving me ALL of your tax refund (which she was getting $900) That's where it gets foggy, because he expected her to pay him that money, and yet, she used that $900 to pay off her other credit card debt on the third card. I'm not so sure she broke their bargain, because from what I am hearing, she only agreed to the $200 a month. And it would make sense to me, if she had already struck that deal with him, to make payments, that if the $900 covered the debt on that third card, that she would want to clear her debt completely and pay off that card too....since he stated that he was only willing to pay off 2 of the cards and not all 3.

[@4everThoughtful]

The thing is, she was still using that 3rd credit card. We're all different but if someone made that deal with me and wanted my tax return of $900, then it's theirs. They saved me more than that in interest at 40%. A $3400 balance at 40% interest annually, and paying $100 monthly, accrues more in interest than your payment covers.

[@keeks117]

LOL the lady behind the defendant, has some of the FUNNIEST expressions I’ve seen on this show.

[@pchelloo]

Thank goodness he took the ring back and will get his loaned money returned too! This man is smart! He KNOWS if he can't trust her to keep her word, he can't trust anything else. It's lucky that they didn't get to the BS "I Do" part.

[@brendan11707]

@@Get_BODIED she wasn’t paying him and if what he said was true he probably should have got the tax return. He overreacted but if she promised it to him he has a right to be annoyed when he doesn’t get it

[@yung1717]

Oh please

[@dllms]

this place is always about MONEY and HATE ,not trust , love or anything else .

[@TopherGrant]

What? Court? Duh! It's not about love or trust or emotions. It's about law... this isn't the Maury show

[@gene5148]

​@@TopherGrantoh, ok when he/she said 'this place' I thought they were referring to the world in general.

[@gene5148]

When you say 'this place' do you mean 'the people's Court' or do you mean people in general?

[@Aerospace_Education]

They both seem like nice people. I've been married for 22 years. I trust her. If I didn't, a lot of things would probably start going sideways quickly. That's a really important 2%

[@natashamichelle8330]

Congratulations on 22 yoa

[@weldinggirl]

I have to leave a comment for my future self saying “I’ve seen this episode” 🤣🤣

[@zoeg7985]

It’s not about trust for the plaintiff it’s about CONTROL

[@leisurefarm]

This issue could've been as big or as small as they chose to see it. They chose to see it as huge and lost the relationship.

[@tanagunda1368]

Honestly they are just not for each other

[@elaine462]

He chose to see it as huge because he immediately kicked her out. That's not how you solve problems. It's not like she blew the money on a trip to Vegas. She paid down her other credit card and said she was anxious to start putting money away for their honeymoon. She was committed to him.

[@looniebinn]

Sounds like she tried to be sneaky and quickly pay down her last cc and it backfired big time. She knew what she was doing and what she agreed to.

[@ct6410]

No.

[@Marryanne27]

I think the guy is right about something. Trust is one the most important part in any relationship. When you agreed to pay your loan with your tax return check, you must do as you promised. How dare you use it to pay off your credit card debt without consulting the person you promised first.

[@vickyserr]

Pay your own damn bills lady!!

[@anh0342]

She was...he wanted the money to control her.

[@michaelbrandon1222]

@@anh0342 no she wasn't lol. 3 cards all in the red? If that's paying your bills I don't want to know your definition of missing payments is. I think you spelled "helping her out" wrong 😂

[@anh0342]

@@michaelbrandon1222 She WAS paying her bills. She knew something had to change, 3 cards in the red and the total was being reduced. He offered her a loan to pay it off faster. I would have declined. Bc he was trying to control her. He got pissed when she sent the payment off anyway to pay the bill. And didn't need his money. And I never said he was helping her out.

[@michaelbrandon1222]

@@anh0342 her cards were reduced because the MAN paid off the balance 🤣. She gave no indication she was paying her cards off before he came along. And if she was in the habit of paying her bills she wouldn't be in such debt at 50+ years old and would have paid that man the original $200 a month interest free arrangement that they agreed on instead of $0. That man was pissed because she, again, AGREED to give him the $900 tax return and ultimately didn't. If she didn't want to fork it over she could have said NO or tell him that wanted to pay off her other card with it between the time of the agreement and when she got it, instead she decided to stiff him. Gee, I wonder why she's divorced 🤣 Buddy dodged a bullet.

[@anh0342]

@@michaelbrandon1222 I stand by my original comment. He was trying to control her. If he was trying to dodge a bullet he should have never asked her again to marry him.

[@ahelms1990]

She wants to ring to sell to pay him back with his own money. I hope this lady never ruins another guys wallet. LOL

[@Cutecamp1212]

He’s saying it’s about trust, but she can’t trust him either. He changed the terms and then overreacted because she didn’t jump! She’s better off 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@Decopainterandtea]

I agree. He is domineering.

[@app1mxh]

He was paying all the bills. She was going to clean up her credit and jet.

[@cecynay7369]

There was new information and he suggested a change to the terms that she agreed. An addendum to the terms that they both agreed to is not him being untrustworthy.

[@stephenbanks5952]

I think the situation was not that she agreed to pay him and didn't but that she had already spent the cheque when he asked. It feels like a miscommunication. I thought the whole point was that he was helping her out so I don't know why he suddenly wanted money back so quickly. Well it looks like they avoided a bad marriage and another messy divorce.

[@alissaburgan4519]

This issue would have been handled in 30 seconds between me and my man. Really shows that lack of communication and trust destroys relationships

[@beautifulllb9493]

He just wanted to control her and he had a sick way of doing it. She sure dodged a crazy one

[@chevonaughwalker3826]

From your perception if I help anyone I'm trying to control them. They hadn't had any issue until then but yeah sure paying off her debt and not trusting her because she couldn't keep 100 with the money lol yall women lo e being victim and blaming men. Wait she admitted to owing him too soo

[@ABALLAM3]

Four cases of old videos in one day. Got to like that!

[@zmejia62]

I love it !!!

[@Lh-wq5gc]

Actually 5 they added one more old case. ❤

[@Indygrandma56]

I haven’t been able to watch regularly so the reruns are new to me

[@ABALLAM3]

@@Indygrandma56 In general, they are new to me as well. They are from 2015 for the most part. It's great compared to the new, pandemic influenced episodes of today.

[@Indygrandma56]

@@ABALLAM3 totally agree

[@mrzotzot68]

Clear demonstration of lack of accountability by this woman

[@michellet7013]

I don’t trust that lady, he had the right instincts.

[@TabithaKristen]

Watching this and my fiancé is in the next room. He says, "She's accused of 'feeling Beyonce?'"

[@arianefr78]

The defendant's way of thinking is all wrong, she still doesn't see what she did was out of order. When she agreed to use her income tax to pay off her loan to him faster, was not him breaching the contract but since they had both agreed, it was simply a new clause added to their loan contract and then when she decided to unilaterally change that clause and not discuss it with him in any way, that was a breach of contract but also a breach of TRUST. And to further show how she doesn't think normally, she doesn't understand why he took the ring back, nor why he was allowed to take the ring back. He really dodged a bullet with her, she doesn't have a 'partner' minded way of thinking...

[@lilo4399]

She looks raw and very confused

[@kyoto32001]

and OLD

[@lilo4399]

He looks older than her. They seem age appropriate....and yeah - they're both too old to be squabbling over loans, managing tax returns, etc

[@michaelbrandon1222]

@@kyoto32001 exactly very old. He can get a younger woman.

[@tempgirl00711]

Nah I think she's gamN us. The same play nice n dumb innocent look she used on him to get her cards paid.cuz she's grown, been around and thru all this before. She got smarter this time around, by going in hard for cash upfront, almost got the feeling his friends reminded him to protect himself. Cuz his first wife cleaned his clock. This is business and he handled it like a business. She knew she was supposed to pay that tax money. But thought Abt herself instead..then played dumb. And innocent. Cuz if he asked her after she spent it, she would've just said, I'm sorry love but I already spent the tax money, then he wouldn't have anything to be mad about, only mad that he didn't think to ask her for it earlier. But she was dishonest and when he followed up, she told him she decided to spend money on herself instead. If a person can't help doing small sneaky stuff, what else will they do later. This guy seems like nice and organized. With job, good credit, savings, a home, bought her ring, and was helping her with her bad credit free willy spending azz. These cases usually go bad for guys cuz they forget to handle certain things as a business arrangement. Get to court and get fckd over. Hope my son's handle certain things this way. So they don't screwed over cuz I guarantee you if he didn't, this chic would've been sayn, he gave me that money, it was never a loan. LMAO. And why not make one payment, she know she owes it, then asks for ring? She's still being money hungry. And silly. Hasn't she been watching judge shows, engagement rings always go back.

[@tempgirl00711]

@@michaelbrandon1222 Amen! Especially if he's tossing out cashola! Got good credit, money in the bank, giving out engagement rings, homeowner, heck friggin yeah! He's organized and no debt. I'd definitely marry this guy. And I have good credit!

[@gloriaf6971]

This woman is the type who lives off men. She has probably never been completely self supporting. She fell on hard times after her divorce because she was being supported by her ex-husband.

[@patrick4324]

The woman always wants to keep the ring... Talk about greedy you could tell at the end when she said thank God she's not married to him she can be very vindictive....

[@keshiabarnes9715]

She dodged a very big bullet… live your life lady.

[@michaelbrandon1222]

You mean HE dodged a bullet. He's the one without debt last time I checked 🤣

[@Begotts]

She is better off. He seem like a very controlling guy…2% messed up the relationship!?! Dude come on! He will never find anyone like that.

[@mnelson2008]

Control freak. She didn't break his trust. He changed the terms. Good riddance.

[@angelheartonline]

He is a classic controlling narcissistic. She was appealing as long as she was quiet,docile, needed him and did what he said. The minute she made a decision to do what was best for her, he became angry, threw her out and took her to court. This wasn’t trust…because if it was about trust he wouldn’t have tried to get her back. This was control.

[@Di_777]

💯

[@elaine462]

I agree totally.

[@benjie128]

Yes he loaned her money, but he unilaterally changed the terms after and then got all pissy when she continued paying down her debt, which was part of the original agreement.

[@chevonaughwalker3826]

😂😂😂 you're high

[@mikesteele05]

Rubs me the wrong way how he kept repeating that his gift to her was that she wouldn’t have to pay more interest on her credit cards. No. The concepts of loan and gift conflict with each other. He didn’t gift her anything. Assuming he had this money liquid, he wasn’t losing anything by letting her borrow it. While it’s true that she benefited by being able to avoid more interest payments, it’s tacky for him to keep claiming that the benefits of the loan are somehow a gift.

[@sudhakhristmukti1930]

It was all about his money...thats why he dragged her to court.

[@cecynay7369]

I disagree. I was foolish with my credit cards when I was young and my brother was an angel and loaned me all the money with no interest so I could get back on my feet. It was a gift from heaven. Interest (especially 40%) is like a noose around your neck. I paid my brother back early and thanked him profusely often. Built a great credit score and bought a house a couple years later. The fact that she doesn't see his loan as a godsend and do everything to be worthy of that kindness would make me upset too, if I were him. I know how a humble and responsible person repays a gift like that.. Quickly and without a whisper of entitlement. The personal relationship should be completely separate from the loan relationship.

[@mikesteele05]

@@cecynay7369 I’m not saying she shouldn’t be grateful for the opportunity he provided, but he didn’t GIFT her anything. He loaned her something. That’s the distinction.

[@sunflowerglo5492]

That couple in the crowd is going to have an interesting ride home😭

[@theplatformation3282]

He says it was never about the money, then the ring, the whole case was about money. That's a reason it's the cause of many evils. sad.

[@globe2555]

Thank God I'm not married to the man who helped me through thick and thin. What???🙄

[@kanar4eto]

I would never marry a man who wanted to loan me money. If I'm gonna share my life with someone we better share everything and have each other's backs always. Family and love is more important than money

[@carlyy8284]

She was deep in debt before she met him... I don't see any problem with loaning money.

[@Play4keeks]

Amen. I think it's weird to loan your spouse money

[@tanagunda1368]

@@Play4keeks would you pay another persons debt that they had before you met them ?

[@elvickRULES]

@@Play4keeks so if the person you fancy had say $890,000 in debt you’d be a-okay about it? Lmao. Money is one of the biggest things that breaks up marriages and relationships btw.

[@Play4keeks]

@Seth Brown I'm not ok with that which is why they wouldn't be my spouse. If I was married and asked my husband for money, it would be a gift.

[@Mr.EmeraldTheGreen]

She just wanted someone else to pay her bills....then has the audacity to want to keep the ring? CONCLUSION: GOLD DIGGER!!!

[@elybeanz4500]

She wanted the ring back lmaooo

[@johnnythao]

"You know, You know" should've been the title to this video.

[@dfa3366]

Both have been married before. I guess the one thing you don’t want to do is make the same mistakes from a previous marriage. Finances is probably the number one reason people split.

[@kimberlygamez7132]

I've seen some comments about how this guy is toxic but I don't see that at all. I see his point of asking for the 900 of taxes, however, that should have been communicated before the loan was made. I also see that in some cases you don't know how much you'll get for your taxes until you file so it's kind of iffy to me, but I don't see him as toxic.

[@meekthegreek1623]

Me neither..If I was her, I would of given him the $ since he bailed me out $3500. That's the least I could do if he's doing me a HUGE favor.

[@katymcginn4644]

☺️ I AGREE AS WELL. I THINK HE WAS VERY GENEROUS IN HELPING HER. SHE SEEMS A LITTLE UNGRATEFUL. HAHAHA, ASKING FOR THE RING. UMMM, NO!

[@breakingangel11]

He doesn’t love the 2% of her that he can’t control. Low key misogyny.

[@vt-yp7yq]

Good call Harmony! 🤔

[@Rudeboi-dy2]

No I'm not upset about the ring, Your honor what about the ring 😂😂😂😂

[@morrisdancer11]

This guy is an absolute control freak. All his remarks were about how he allowed/helped/made concessions etc. Which may be true but didn't allow her some wiggle room to allow her some dignity in the arrangement, not him telling her what it was going to be. Yes, she was in a pickle but it was because of the expenses due to divorce, not being a shopaholic.` I bet he managed his divorce very tightly too.

[@sudhakhristmukti1930]

And he dragged her to court just for 'his' money. She was working, but he wanted all her 900 instead of the 200 payment...!! And what 'trust' is he talking about when he added more and new terms to the loan?!

[@youcantdiealonewithcats]

Whew she dodged a bullet Clearly someone hurt him, but he's allowing it to ruin him. She said it, her final word "thank God I'm not [married to him]"!!!

[@sherrys.2259]

No wonder she didn't want to marry him. He's cheap. Split the bills, and she cooks, cleans, and sleeps with you? What benefit is the marriage to her?

[@abionaabram8828]

Sounds like he's a little controlling

[@LeolaGlamour]

Lol 😂 not the girl in law school saying I’m not that dumb.

[@josefwashere]

@12:57 Defendant: “what about my 💍?” J👩🏻‍⚖️DGE MM: “whaaat about your engagement ring!? “is that what you’re upset about?“ Defendant: “no…” Am I the only one thinking that after Judge MM schooled the defendant, she had that look on her face that said “GTFO with that lie!!…” 😂💀

[@larrywarren2431]

Every man should stay away from her

[@goingaboutmyfathersbusines4359]

He sounds unreasonable..and very difficult to communicate with..she is pretty and has a good head on her shoulders..I hope she finds a man that will treat her well..

[@rcopeland96]

She played herself. Regardless if he changed the terms of repayment, he DID let her know she had to pay it back. She thought he loved her so much she could pull this BS on him. He dodged a bullet. Asking about an engagement ring knowing he’s done w her. SMH REALLY!? Silly Rabbit, tricks are 4 kids

[@heatherbop2946]

Omg she wanted that ring to pawn to pay him back 😭 😆

[@meganmose]

Be careful what you post on Facebook before you go on TV

[@iamgldn5409]

I love how some women ask to keep their rings even after they don’t marry.

[@sthr2110]

This guy REALLY blew it. Since when is loving 98% of someone not enough? Look...I got my significant other out of hock before we were married. She had horrible credit. Judgements/collections/a 450 credit score. Mistakes from youth. I helped her out of it. I didn't help her while expecting anything other than that she would continue living in a fiscally responsible manner...and she did! Now, she has no bad debt, only "good" (subjective) debt (a mortgage) and an 800 credit score. Hell, I even paid for half of her masters degree program because...it...was...the...right...thing...to...do. He should have worked with her. She didn't take the money and blow it on stupid things. She paid high interest debt down, which was responsible. I have no doubt she would have repaid him aggressively once her high interest debt was gone. He missed out on a good woman, I think, and he may never admit or acknowledge it. Way to go, dude. Your loss, her gain.

[@Pinkblueflowerlady]

Why do people care what comment number they are anyways….. And when will people stop loaning money 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@CreamIceMs]

If he really wanted to help her pay her loans without her accruing interest, why was he in such a hurry to get paid back?

[@trekgirl65]

Credit cards debt.

[@tiffanynelson8285]

😂😂 the defendant felt she throwing everything in to the case as if it had to do with it 🤨

[@lordy7933]

Lady run 🏃🏽‍♀️🏃🏼🏃🏾‍♂️ He may be generous, but with CONTROL

[@ditto6330]

This lady is so full of excuses one after another. She clearly didn't have no intentions of paying this Man? I am glad to hear he opened his eyes before it was to late. Lady... Respect is Earned Honesty is Appreciated. Trust is Gained Loyalty is Returned..... She did you a huge favor by no longer been in your life. This Man seems like a very kind person who was just trying to help! I hope he finds a nice Women that doesn't want to use him and truly loves and cares for him... Now we could sort of guess? Why she's divorced?

[@tjneverdefeated4394]

She should have never agreed to give him the entire tax check if that’s not what she wanted to do. She could’ve easily said no, let’s stick to the original plan. The outcome would’ve probably been the same - a break up. But he would not have felt deceived. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@shawnteaa5356]

She said she never told him she would. He asked for it AFTER she already received it and paid stuff. There was no check to give him anymore. She wrote a $900 AFTER to make him happy but he said NO because he knew she didn’t have it.

[@tjneverdefeated4394]

@@shawnteaa5356 You’re right, that’s what I’m talking about. When she wrote the check I think it validated his entitlement even though he wasn’t entitled to it. It’s like he wanted to do good by her but in the end he couldn’t let himself trust her.

[@tjneverdefeated4394]

I think he somehow wanted her to do that on her own without him asking her. That would’ve made him feel confident that she was really going to pay him back. He felt bad when she offered the check so he declined but he shouldn’t have asked for it and she shouldn’t have attempted to appease him knowing she could only do what they agreed to. Feels like poor communication on both ends. It’s sad. They seem like they would’ve been good together.

[@susiebevacqua2555]

Good luck to that guy. I don’t think she was trying to rip him off. He’s not going to find anyone who will put up with his bullshit.

[@BigLoBabyLo]

Hey PC Fam!! When she said "What about my ring!?!" I was like 🤔 there's a counter claim??

[@chunkchips4554]

Trust is important so be honest. However don't be so controlling and communicate better. Be empathetic. It's balance y'all. And none of us are perfect at these things. These people could have figured it out and worked it out. Wow

[@mekbebtamrat817]

Asking for your money back is not controlling. It is being financially responsible.

[@steelwheels327]

If you realize a person doesn't have their shit straight in life at this point .....they won't !! You're life is a result of all your decisions whether good or bad!!

[@yung1717]

Life happens at any age so this is ridiculous

[@nataliegift6044]

She didn't want to give him the 900 verses how much she was saving in interest,then went behind his back and did otherwise and people would say One Red Flag an he's supposed to be like,we agreed you did otherwise oh well let's wait until it's 100 Red Flags. By then it would be their second divorce. Trust and Communication is everything when you going into a marriage it's not a me thing, it's a we thing. Then your concern is for the ring,and him trying to guard himself please. You people have no business getting married at this stage you both still have some healing and introspection,etc to do.

[@4everThoughtful]

I agree with you. It's those who ignore such warnings who become angry with themselves for not listening to their gut.

[@tempgirl00711]

She almost sounds like a freeloading bum. She understood what he was saying. She's playing dumb. Get the feeling she's kinda dishonest. Just wanted him to keep covering her bills. And he must be desperate.

[@erlandawilliams7349]

Or a gold digger per say.

[@michaelbrandon1222]

Definitely lying about the arrangement. And definitely missed an opportunity to be with a decent man the rest of her life but ruined a great opportunity.

[@michaelbrandon1222]

@Tiger Bandaid he's desperate because he's enamored with a old woman with 2 kids and debt, if he had options he wouldn't even look her way. And not only that tried to marry her after she already betrayed his trust. That man hasn't figured out that HE'S the prize and definitely eligible for younger hotter woman without kids and debt.

[@CreamIceMs]

The woman literally has TWO jobs but is a free loading bum? How many jobs does she need to have to be considered hardworking? Geez. No amount of work is ever enough for women.

[@boomer2095]

He was doing what every financial planner would tell you to do “Pay down the 40% int card first”. Then pay the next … He had a zero % card and I think she wanted to pay down the other card so she could keep using it, (which is fine in an emergency) but she has a credit card addiction

[@keithkemp3008]

Oh damn girl !!!! Glade I'm not..... said in hallway

[@manthony777]

She will have a much better life without him controlling her. He needs a pet.

[@aprilpinketon2567]

It sounds like he was wishy-washy on the terms. I don't understand two ppl who're getting married and planning to live the rest of their lives together loaning money. I am married and I don't loan my husband, and he doesn't me. I've always found that weird. We do have personal checking accounts, but both have access to it. It's just a strange concept, but this is our only marriage 12 yrs together. Maybe if we both divorced and remarried we would think, and act differently.

[@michaelbrandon1222]

Controlling who? He lent her 3k and was just trying to get it back. That woman should have jumped at the opportunity to marry that man, she's old with kids working 2 jobs and no retirement plan. That man obviously has money if he loaned 3k and wanted to get married in Costa Rica, and was willing to support her and live together. Now she's single again back in a financial riff. HE'S the one who lucked out with the breakup, now he gets his money and can get a younger hot woman without kids and debt.

[@michaelbrandon1222]

@Tiger Bandaid my thoughts exactly 💯

[@manthony777]

@@michaelbrandon1222 , they agreed to $200 per month. The income tax was not part of the payment plan.

[@michaelbrandon1222]

@@manthony777 but she AGREED to fork it over whenever she got it. If she didn't want to give it she should have said NO or say I'm gonna use it to pay the other card between the time she agreed and when she actually got it. I can't believe people are holding it against him that SHE lied, and SHE hasn't paid HIM a dime of the original $200 a month arrangement 🤣

[@susanstribe4914]

He's a bully imo. He was waiting for the other shoe to drop instead of communicating and working it out.

[@LeolaGlamour]

Getting married at their age is stupid for the very reason they are there money. If I decided I wanted to settle with someone in my non child bearing age, I will not get married. You pay your bills, I’ll pay mine. Maybe we’ll live together, if we do half and half whatever we are comfortable splitting. No drama. And he was already helping her by her not paying rent.

[@kyoto32001]

YES

[@LeolaGlamour]

@@sadasmith lol I feel the same actually but if he insisted then we’d split things.

[@michaelbrandon1222]

You're a very wise woman. Correct, they absolutely should not be getting married.

[@mikesteele05]

There are many reasons to get married that have absolutely nothing to do with having children. In many instances, it’s better for tax purposes. If one of them has better health benefits, it benefits the other to be married and eligible for those benefits. They’d also be eligible for all kinds of loans and discounts for a variety of programs.

[@LeolaGlamour]

@@mikesteele05 I disagree. 🤷🏽‍♀️ I think it complicates things. If someone did have better insurance and one was very sick maybe then it makes sense. But I can’t think of any other reason it makes sense to get married unless you aren’t stable on your own.

[@reldra]

He is a weirdo. She looks traumatized.

[@josephcatsanchez6590]

NO MARRIAGE, NO RING!

[@Mocharocks9966]

They’re no spring chickens . I’m sure he’s been burnt before . Trust is everything

[@TheRonald6524]

Getting married to this woman would have been an absolute NIGHTMARE!!!!! Consider yourself LUCKY 🍀!!!!!! You really dodged a bullet on this one!!!!

[@nhutchins100]

My guess is she wants a financial provider, and he wants a financially productive partner. It would never work.

[@Lmlm8168]

This whole situation is ridiculous 😂 my husband would never “loan” me money . Like , it’s OUR debt in the end isn’t it? She either should have not taken the money or if he wasn’t just going to give it to her he shouldn’t have offered . She was going to be his WIFE. This whole thing is stupid & YES is was all about the money . ALSO, the engagement ring was a GIFT that she did NOT have to return . The comment section here has me dying right now 😂

[@apupnamedLeo]

He dodged a bullet, she seems extremely selfish and will not take accountability for anything.

[@elzaaltmann]

He has fear of commiting to her.

[@janicester]

He overreacted for sure! He said at the end he's glad he's not getting married...that's a load of BS. He's still asking her to get back and he knows it. She should be thanking her Lucky Stars that she's not married to this control freak. IT WAS ABOUT CONTROL...IT IS ALWAYS ABOUT CONTROL WITH MEN AND MONEY.