Failure or Wahoo Kickr rival? Cycplus T3 indoor trainer Review.

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Peak Torque

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@Hambini 6 ай бұрын

I don't know if the mic has amplified certain frequencies but it doesn't sound that quiet!

@PeakTorque 6 ай бұрын

Hairdresser moaning again. The mic on the camera is directional and pointed directly at the motor. I dont think its that loud honestly speaking, but there is a whine.

@out_spocken 6 ай бұрын

@@PeakTorque I imagine how quiet something is both relative and a matter of perspective. Why not do a decibel check in future and then everyone can go...oik..its 10db louder/quieter than X and XX and X? I say this as a viewer and not someone that has to do it...but...given everything else has tangible stats?

@riknos3289 5 ай бұрын

@@out_spocken A decibel reading isn't sufficient. Frequency distribution makes a huge difference to perceived loudness as human ears are not equally sensitive to all frequencies (See Fletcher-Munson curve research for more). Something can be 10db louder, but the frequencies produced can be distributed in a manner that's much less annoying, and actually be more tolerable overall. So you need a comparison using Fast Fourier Transforms to analyze the frequency spectrum of each to really have all the info.

@out_spocken 5 ай бұрын

@@riknos3289 Agreed. Would also need to use the same room, same mic in the same place. I get the acoustics and frequencies...perhaps just didn't know the way to explain that this would be measurable. Whether it's financially viable is another thing entirely I guess? I tried listening to mine and I don't hear a whizzing from the machine (wahoo kickr).

@gplama 5 ай бұрын

Good to see Cycplus address a number of issues identified in with their T2 trainer (of which they sent me FIVE units to test/review). Unfortunately in reviewing those I've effectively been blacklisted by Cycplus. Not only are they unwilling to send a T3 over for review, they cancelled and refunded my order for their new radar device too (amusingly enough as I had predicted they would on an online forum a few hours prior to them cancelling it). When I emailed asking for clarification, I received a polite reply... but no indication they'll ever send anything my way for review again. These kind of interactions become the story when I'm asked about a company and their products. It also makes for a really awkward conversations at Eurobike when they're there to promote their products, I'm there to cover them, yet... well.... here we are.

@PeakTorque 5 ай бұрын

So interesting. Weird - because so far this trainer has been decent so not sure why they are hiding! Please follow up at Eurobike and get their reaction!

@global_nomad. 6 ай бұрын

good clean straight to the point video without fluff or filler....perfect

@invisiblescout6335 6 ай бұрын

8:32 bruh 💀

@_gregvalencia 6 ай бұрын

All these comments on noise when I don't think it sounded that bad. But also is everyone just riding indoors without fans? My fans are by far the loudest part of my indoor workouts. I ride indoors with noise canceling earbuds because of the fan noise

@dusty_hoods 6 ай бұрын

No power required is the top feature here in Ukraine because of constant blackouts 😁 Will you make a video about that Magene 606? Can't decide between Magene and IGSport.

@DanTuber 6 ай бұрын

As someone with no trainer experience my first thought was that sounded quite noisy. Also think they should box it better to save you breaking your back pulling it out.

@out_spocken 6 ай бұрын

Re-rubber feet...I use pool noodles. Cut a slit, slide them on, then just gaffa taped them around so they don't split. But offers a bit of firm compliance agains something like a rubber

@joebusby1 6 ай бұрын

Aero socks on the trainer?

@user-uy9qj6vs3f 6 ай бұрын

You should compare it to the Tacx Neo, since both are direct transmission (cassette to motor) instead of internal belt system to flywheel.

@PatrickLino 6 ай бұрын

8:32 mark - I unsubscribed just so I could have the pleasure of subscribing again.

@raphaelalmeida4596 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the great detailed and thecnical review. I've got T3 recently (3weeks), and I'm facing hard time to try equalize my usual Garmin Vector 3s (single) pedal powermeter with T3 output watts. The diference is huge, up to 40-50W lower in T3. I've tried to adjust between 94%-100% the chain drive coeficient, but even with 100% settlement, I still got 40-50W lower in T3 (doing Z2 200W in my usual pedal based powermeter, it shows ~150-60W in T3 output) Do you have any recommendation? Is it possible my T3 device is lacking of calibration (from factory) or other common issue? I'd appreciate if you comment back. Thanks again.

@Chungleas 6 ай бұрын

Interested in the integrated IR cadence sensor, one less separate sensor to need on my trainer bike.

@glennoc8585 6 ай бұрын

Springtime in June? Looking at the weather it might aswell be. If I get another trainer I'll mostly get the jet-black aka zwift trainer. This Cycloplus trainer looks good

@kauahroque 4 ай бұрын

My T2 feels a lot unsmooth. the pedal feeling with it on or off Power feels basically the same, thats correct? my only reference is a Thinkrider X2 and Keiser Indoor bike that pedal stroke feeling a lot more natural

@98GuitarTECH 5 ай бұрын

Hi PT! I was wondering if you had any thoughts on the "D’Aluisio Smartweld" frame design and manufacturing process on higher end alloy Specialized bikes? Most specifically the new Chisel for me. Would love to hear any thoughts you have on it in a future video!

@ianhaigh9786 6 ай бұрын

With the magnets design, is it more aligned with a Tacx Neo? in which case how is the inertia, having compared Neo v Kickr I found the Neo very slightly harder for high power efforts, climbing and ERG mode. My test was to do the same workout twice and compare pwr/hr for each interval. Interested to know how this feels compared to the intertia of a physical flywheel. I can't decide which is the more natural/accurate inertia Physical v Virtual flywheels. Great vid as always, thanks!

@PeakTorque 6 ай бұрын

Good question. I do prefer the feel of a geared up flywheel but this and the tacx have similar sized direct drive motors. A lot simpler, compact and less moving parts is one advantage. But the ‘feel’ of low cadence high power (climbing) efforts can feel a bit odd in my opinion. At higher cadences, i cant really tell the difference.

@ianhaigh9786 6 ай бұрын

@@PeakTorque I kinda feel that virtual/magnetic flywheels tend to provide much less inertia when in ERG mode at higher resistance, climbing or just going hard not sure if it's a restriction of the technology.....physical flywheels will/tend to always provide intertia, obviously the affect of which is less as resistance increases. With the Tacx Neo, if doing a high resistance climb or interval you cannot pause for a second because the resistance just grabs you as it's it continuous and instantaneous, whereas even in these situations with physical flywheel there is always some intertial...... I don't have the scientific knowledge to know which of the two is the more realistic/correct ..... also not sure if any of that makes any sense

@jaro6985 5 ай бұрын

Only 2.8kW at 40k/h? How am I supposed to break a sweat.

@invisiblescout6335 6 ай бұрын

Finally gave in and paid for DCR analyser huh? How's the Magene C606 been? Doesn't look too bad on paper, except the storage space which seems worryingly small, but I've heard in practice it still needs a fair bit of work.

@PeakTorque 6 ай бұрын

Yep. It was generously donated by the dev, a kind man. 🎉

@PeakTorque 6 ай бұрын

Initial thoughts on c606 is that its not ready. Battery life not the best. Not even loaded with any maps. Im still a firm fan of the igps 630. 7hr ride and only dropped 12%. Incredible battery life after 2yrs of use. Am now testing the 800.

@thrawed 6 ай бұрын

He's probably not aware that zwiftpower has the exact same tool for free (it's not limited to zwift rides).

@azgul 6 ай бұрын

@@PeakTorqueyou have to download the maps on the device (C606)

@voidsofold 6 ай бұрын

@@PeakTorque As someone with both the Garmin 1040 edge and the IGPS630 I'm constantly shocked by the battery life on my IGPS.

@itzalex2369 6 ай бұрын

Hi! Does removing and putting the back wheel in the trainer damage the thru axle threads? I have an aeroad which has the threads built into the frame, not the hanger. I always keep the threads well lubricated but I'm still concerned that i will need to trash the frame because of worn threads in the dropouts. Is this an issue I need to keep an eye on? I always torque the axle to 12Nm (rec spec is 10-15)

@PeakTorque 6 ай бұрын

Should be fine but deffo keep and eye on it. Its a stupid design decision to not make the threaded parts replaceable

@stinkybeam 6 ай бұрын

T3 seems very noisy....I hope someday english speaking youtuber have a chance trying on Magene T600, that one looks better

@PeakTorque 6 ай бұрын

It really isn’t that loud, or maybe it is and im just used to it 😨. My dry chain is 😂

@sgameirojr 6 ай бұрын

Maybe microfone being closer to the trainer.

@Type1on2wheels 6 ай бұрын

Shane miller GP lama has tested the Magene T300. I believe he will be testing the 600 soon.

@MS-bw7yt 6 ай бұрын

Do you have any problems with your Assioma Shi's and the bushing on the inside that they use instead of a normal bearing?

@PeakTorque 6 ай бұрын

No, never had an issue but these assiomas have had an easy life to be honest. Not like the pro mx which have been very abused 😂

@impaledface7694 6 ай бұрын

I have no use for this but it seems neat.

@pantster9855 6 ай бұрын

WTF are those sandals and socks????????

@PeakTorque 6 ай бұрын

Comfortable

@pantster9855 6 ай бұрын

@@PeakTorque sacrifice comfort. Save our eyes

@PeakTorque 6 ай бұрын

@@pantster9855 well im not getting my trotters out on here cos my OF subs would go mad

@Chrisrides 6 ай бұрын

This is the comment I was looking for 😂

@mikehall6608 5 ай бұрын

Above the price point of the kickr core, i don't really see the benefit, other than if you're a really high level athlete, which 99% of us aren't. And the Kickr Core is absolutely silent.