Fairy Tail is Trash (How pretending to kill your characters will kill your show)

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@vivinomi
@vivinomi 4 ай бұрын
As a fairy tail fan, yes I have a love-hate relationship with the show but mostly I hate it. That is why rave master is better
@mome9350
@mome9350 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I hate fake out deaths in One piece.
@chernormajubah4672
@chernormajubah4672 5 ай бұрын
The characters never died in the 1st place since we didn't see the body
@mome9350
@mome9350 5 ай бұрын
@@chernormajubah4672 When it is implied that said character died or faced an immenint threat, then they come back alive a second later. This is considered a fake death. Like Pill from alabasta arc this bird literally took a nuke to the face and came back alive. Another one is bon chan he gave his final words against Magellan and for some reason is alive (in a F chapter cover).
@basementblues7417
@basementblues7417 Ай бұрын
Yep. That kind of shitty writing takes away the tension. Worst of all, it makes the reader suspicious if the actual death happens. After Ace got donuted I thought, "nah, he's gonna heal" until he started his final monologue
@mome9350
@mome9350 Ай бұрын
@@basementblues7417 Hell, I still believe that Pedro is alive, but waits at Laughtale.
@basementblues7417
@basementblues7417 Ай бұрын
@@mome9350 I wouldn't be surprised XD
@Hwrd469
@Hwrd469 7 ай бұрын
Even as a fan of fairy tail, I can overlook overuse of power of friendship, overuse of fanservice, and a bad power system, I think the show has positives in spite of its negatives. But I would absolutely agree the worst thing this series does is fake out deaths because its removes any tension in the story, honestly I think this story was so family-friendly to begin with that characters shouldn't have been written into a corner where there had to be a bullshit reason for the character to come back to life. I genuinely do think the story has positives they may not be for everyone but I certantly liked it, but fake out deaths really do make this story noticably worse even as a fan. Also this was a good vidoe, keep it up. P.S. sorry for yapping
@_Minos
@_Minos 5 ай бұрын
Pls who are you kidding here? Anybody who says "Im a [insert anime name] fan but......." aint a fan at all. Those are just cover words for a picturebook hater. Sorry but no sorry, it's the truth.
@ekoyal_gemu4446
@ekoyal_gemu4446 5 ай бұрын
The power system isn't bad it's literally explained in the very beginning of the show
@RedSunUnderParadise
@RedSunUnderParadise 4 ай бұрын
Dude, you are right. If they are just going to tease us with Character death or introduce Concepts like Zeref's God mode and overrides that with Deus Ex Machina which makes these concepts and hook meaningless then Mashima might as well just not. Fairy Tail is just Pokemon and it shouldn't try to pretend to be something else.
@_Minos
@_Minos 4 ай бұрын
@@RedSunUnderParadise What are you talking about one piece of sht ta rd?? 🤨 Not our nor the animes fault that you lack comprehensions skill. One piece of sht does it better ey?? WHAT ECACTLY DIES IT BETTER ONE PIECE OF SHT TA RD?? It's basically the same sht as Fairy tail, just for no reason longer and horrible artstyle 🤢.
@_Minos
@_Minos 4 ай бұрын
@@RedSunUnderParadise What the hell are yoh talking about one piece of sht t a rd?? About your m o t h er?? Not our not the animes fault you lack compr3h3nsion skills
@A.DEN0
@A.DEN0 Ай бұрын
Black hair? Side characters to pink haired mc? Constant suicide attempts? Gray was the original Megumin
@yuta2094
@yuta2094 3 ай бұрын
This is why tartaros is the best fairy tail arc. Killed characters and gave every major a chance to do something.
@_Minos
@_Minos 3 ай бұрын
@@yuta2094 This is why one piece of mid is the same, but gets all the undeserved praize in the world
@diothegoat.
@diothegoat. 4 ай бұрын
you cannot hate fairy tail because of the power of friendship, the power of friendship is literally all of shonen anime there is no shonen without the power of friendship 😭
@MathewWoods-q2j
@MathewWoods-q2j 4 ай бұрын
@@diothegoat. no other anime takes it to the level fairy tail does, that’s the point being made
@Somnus_et_Somnia
@Somnus_et_Somnia 4 ай бұрын
No other anime takes it to the complete other lvl than Dragon ball 🤢. Basically invented power of friendship in 80 is plus the screaming as a form of powe ups lmao. What was Toriyama even thinking when writing dragon ball?? Was he on a heavy tripp that moment 😂??
@ArnoldSomethingLastName
@ArnoldSomethingLastName 4 ай бұрын
@@MathewWoods-q2jExactly. I’m seeing people in the comments try to strawman other anime as being exactly the same yet don’t even give any examples or they just pretend any scene in every other anime is “no different” because reasons, especially dragon ball for some weird reasons. I guess they’re insecure about the better franchise and feel the need to attack it and accuse anyone that disagrees with them of being a fan. I actually hate that franchise and it’s fanbase because of power scalers but it seems like fairy tails are even worse
@Somnus_et_Somnia
@Somnus_et_Somnia 4 ай бұрын
Lol mathews spare accs are invading the threads. Just look at our newest input here (Arnold), joined 4 days ago 🤣
@ArnoldSomethingLastName
@ArnoldSomethingLastName 4 ай бұрын
@@Somnus_et_Somnia Yet you couldn’t contest or dispute my points. Also pretty funny how you and the guy I was talking about literally responded at nearly the exact same time responding to people that never tagged you. Great way to self report that you’re a spare account yourself and are just projecting. I don’t have to be Mathews to see videos like this and want to create an account to talk. Both of you were in the wrong for arguing like children nonstop but I’m not going to pretend he’s wrong for the comment above. This account was created BEFORE you came here attacking people. Pretty ironic seeing how your account was literally created a couple months ago yet you’re talking🤣🤣And seeing your comment already have 2 likes(one from you and your own spare account)
@Anushsjgsg
@Anushsjgsg 4 ай бұрын
One piece and dragon ball is shit too according to that logic
@LegendXD00
@LegendXD00 2 ай бұрын
@@Anushsjgsg What a terrible strawman to diminish criticism towards mid tail
@LegendXD00
@LegendXD00 2 ай бұрын
@@Anushsjgsg You’re an actual doofus to make that claim when Ryan has literally said the exact opposite in every interview he’s been where he’s asked that question. Do your research next time instead of pretending you know what you’re talking about
@LegendXD00
@LegendXD00 2 ай бұрын
@@Anushsjgsg You’re an actual doofus to make that claim when Ryan has literally said the exact opposite in every interview he’s been where he’s asked that question. Do your research next time instead of pretending you know what you’re talking about lol
@LegendXD00
@LegendXD00 2 ай бұрын
@@Anushsjgsg You’re an actual doofus to make that claim when Ryan has literally said the exact opposite in every interview he’s been where he’s asked that question. Do your research next time instead of pretending you know what you’re talking about lmao
@LegendXD00
@LegendXD00 2 ай бұрын
@@Anushsjgsg You’re an actual doofus to make that claim when Ryan has literally said the exact opposite in every interview he’s been where he’s asked that question. Do your research next time instead of pretending you know what you’re talking about lol lmao
@toomibaker4113
@toomibaker4113 8 ай бұрын
The thing that made me realized how bad the show was was when erza managed to destroy a meteor with only her arm after having all her bones broken 💀
@noodle457
@noodle457 3 ай бұрын
It's a good show but that part was crazy
@LegendXD00
@LegendXD00 3 ай бұрын
@@noodle457 Nah
@LegendXD00
@LegendXD00 3 ай бұрын
@@ArnoldSomethingLastName “Lil bro”(again exposing your own age and how desperate you are to sound tough”. Bro mad someone DARED argue with actual facts and clearly can’t handle when someone calls them out for not having an argument for why they try way too hard to pretend a successful movie somehow means it’s bad simply because you say so and nothing else. Notice how you couldn’t even give a single reason why you think it’s mid and not good and instead hide behind a fake “7/10” after getting called out for calling it mid to save face. Buddy no one said anything about any of those movies you mentioned, you just keep proving my point you try so hard to pretend this movie isn’t good because you’re too busy being salty that such a “cape flick” is more successful than any of those movies you listed. If it wasn’t “nothing beyond that” it wouldn’t be so successful. Do better next time
@LegendXD00
@LegendXD00 3 ай бұрын
@@ArnoldSomethingLastName “Lil bro”(again exposing your own age and how desperate you are to sound tough”. Bro mad someone DARED argue with actual facts and clearly can’t handle when someone calls them out for not having an argument for why they try way too hard to pretend a successful movie somehow means it’s bad simply because you say so and nothing else. Notice how you couldn’t even give a single reason why you think it’s mid and not good and instead hide behind a fake “7/10” after getting called out for calling it mid to save face. Buddy no one said anything about any of those movies you mentioned, you just keep proving my point you try so hard to pretend this movie isn’t good because you’re too busy being salty that such a “cape flick” is more successful than any of those movies you listed. If it wasn’t “nothing beyond that” it wouldn’t be so successful. Do better next time bud
@LegendXD00
@LegendXD00 3 ай бұрын
@@ArnoldSomethingLastName “Lil bro”(again exposing your own age and show how desperate you are to sound tough”. Bro mad someone DARED argue with actual facts and clearly can’t handle when someone calls them out for not having an argument for why they try way too hard to pretend a successful movie somehow means it’s bad simply because you say so and nothing else. Notice how you couldn’t even give a single reason why you think it’s mid and not good and instead hide behind a fake “7/10” after getting called out for calling it mid to save face. Buddy no one said anything about any of those movies you mentioned, you just keep proving my point you try so hard to pretend this movie isn’t good because you’re too busy being salty that such a “cape flick” is more successful than any of those movies you listed. If it wasn’t “nothing beyond that” it wouldn’t be so successful. Do better next time
@montebeverly237
@montebeverly237 7 ай бұрын
Why do people care more about if characters die or not than the actual story being told…
@minalee7918
@minalee7918 7 ай бұрын
Because character death IS a part of the story being told and significantly contributes to world-building/character arcs based on how it's written. The point isn't that there should be death, but that when there is a death, it should be done with careful consideration, set-up, and intention to not screw over your story's world-building and/or character development. Don't get me wrong, a character can die and stay permanently dead and STILL be considered horrible because the death didn't bring any value to the story. But in Fairy Tail's case, bringing back characters that should have died just tells your reader that your story has no stakes and that any type of BS can happen. That technically would be fine IF the story was a non-serious series that didn't involve consequences making the characters suffer and grow through various scenarios, but Fairy Tail ISN'T that type of story-- the characters are constantly thrown into disarray and challenged left and right. They've experienced losses and tragedies in their backstories that make them evolve or devolve. If you're going to kill a character to make another character grow or add value to the story, then keep them dead. If you're not planning to kill your character but just want some shock value, then don't even bother killing them in the first place or "kill them" off-screen. Your intention on what you plan to do with a death can be as simple as that. The "actual story" being told is not separate from its writing. You can have an amazing general story and concept but still have it be poorly executed. Fairy Tail is fun to watch with your brain turned off, but it definitely isn't good writing by any means and is therefore not a good story to many. That doesn't mean that you will think it's a bad story, but the harsh reality is that many will see it as one.
@chozochiefxiii3298
@chozochiefxiii3298 5 ай бұрын
I guess Dragon Ball gets a special pass for this then. This kind of double standard stuff is why I don't usually like viewing "critique" or discussion. People can't put their personal bias aside and claim it as fact when it's not. Fake out deaths don't actively lower the stakes or make a story worse, that depends on the viewer, again, dragon ball and literally every other shonen manga in existence. The sooner people can start realizing most of their issues come from personal bias rather than "objective" issues, maybe we as people can actually get somewhere in discussion. Also just because a majority thinks something is true doesn't mean it usually is. This goes both ways with what a majority thinks is good, and what a majority thinks is bad. Most people usually just bandwagon opinions without forming their own first anyways. That's where the majority opinion usually comes from.
@RedSunUnderParadise
@RedSunUnderParadise 4 ай бұрын
Because Fairy Tail was trying to act like the Tension was on the Character dying. But for Acnologia, most of the fights weren't really all that High stakes seeing as "Friendship ex Machina" would handwave away any danger.
@_Minos
@_Minos 4 ай бұрын
@@RedSunUnderParadise First one must be an expert in animes to throw arround the word mid. But,..........I dont see you anywhere having that title little sweetie 🤔. You know lil sweetie, watching tr ash like one piece doesnt make you automatically knowledgeable at anything right?? Yeah, you learned something new today. Thank me later
@_Minos
@_Minos 4 ай бұрын
@@RedSunUnderParadise Oh really?? Then say that to one piece of sht. They don't even pretend to ki11 their characters, they just simply dont do it.
@_Minos
@_Minos 4 ай бұрын
Oh really?? Then say that to one piece of sht. They don't even pretend to ki11 their characters, they just simply dont do it.
@_Minos
@_Minos 4 ай бұрын
Oh and let's not forget that ONE PIECE OF SHT doesnt even k1ll their enemies, like FT does. But noo les give it a position among big 3 yeah......(not that the other 2 are something better, bleach is the most borring anime that I ever watched, plus countles plotholes dear god just pure absence of B cells)
@HarmandeepSingh-fy5zt
@HarmandeepSingh-fy5zt 5 ай бұрын
Isn't the entire dragon ball plot always to just undo the deaths of people 😂 imagine saying dragon ball is trash 😭
@RedSunUnderParadise
@RedSunUnderParadise 4 ай бұрын
Diffeeence is DBZ actually the Dragon Balls straight up become inert, had Shenron croak in the OG and doesn't over rely on "Le Power of Friendship". Heck, the Characters had to earn the Right to get their Ressurection Macguffin back or are we forgetting about the Frieza Saga?
@HarmandeepSingh-fy5zt
@HarmandeepSingh-fy5zt 4 ай бұрын
@@RedSunUnderParadise shenron going inert is only an issue when it's a plot device 💀 remember when it was somehow used twice in one cycle in super? And "earning" resurrection is still neglecting the tension of death. What did Vegeta or trunks do to "earn" the revival? Aside from the frieza saga, reviving someone with dragon balls was never a hard task.
@_Minos
@_Minos 4 ай бұрын
​​@@HarmandeepSingh-fy5zt Ahh that skooma blud is literally going on every comment just so he can bash FT. He obviously has issues beyond any charts 💀
@RedSunUnderParadise
@RedSunUnderParadise 4 ай бұрын
@@HarmandeepSingh-fy5zt Neglecting the Tension of death doesn't really fly considering they were up against Frieza who, in addition to, at the time, being the strongest MF in the show and Frieza was also potentially going to become immortal if they all croaked. Also, best part about Frieza? They introduced him as a monster who could give the Saiyans backshot and didn't cheapen him via "MuH Friendship Deus ex Machina", no, they foreshadowed a form powerful enough to end him since the Saiyan saga.
@RedSunUnderParadise
@RedSunUnderParadise 4 ай бұрын
@@_Minos Yes, I have issues with Mediocre anime. Most anime is mid and FT is one of them. It is what it is.
@RedSunUnderParadise
@RedSunUnderParadise 4 ай бұрын
Fairy Tail's only good points, Unironically, us the Fanservice and, well, part of the worldbuild.
@Somnus_et_Somnia
@Somnus_et_Somnia 4 ай бұрын
Lol, it's hard to believe a man who previously mixed up and compared a seinen and a shounen anime 🤦🏻.
@fediradi2617
@fediradi2617 4 ай бұрын
And the OST. FT has good music.
@Somnus_et_Somnia
@Somnus_et_Somnia 4 ай бұрын
@@fediradi2617 Bud Skooma here has 4 alt accs which he uses to spamm hate comments here. Do not take anything from him seriously.
@Somnus_et_Somnia
@Somnus_et_Somnia 4 ай бұрын
@@fediradi2617 Our Skooma guy here has actually 3 alt accs, which he uses to spam hate comments His other accs are: Legend, ArnoldSonwthing, Mathew woods.
@Somnus_et_Somnia
@Somnus_et_Somnia 4 ай бұрын
@@RedSunUnderParadise Our skooma guy here has actually 3 alt acs, which he uses to spam hatecomments Thise are Arnold, Legend, and Mthew woods. So do not take anything whay he says for serious.
@ekoyal_gemu4446
@ekoyal_gemu4446 5 ай бұрын
So basically characters did die in the show and you're still crying about it?
@chernormajubah4672
@chernormajubah4672 5 ай бұрын
His saying a mc has to die but they didn't
@ekoyal_gemu4446
@ekoyal_gemu4446 5 ай бұрын
@chernormajubah4672 Main characters did die that's why ultear sacrifices her youth.
@chernormajubah4672
@chernormajubah4672 5 ай бұрын
@@ekoyal_gemu4446 ultear didn't even die 🤦‍♂️ and she's also not an mc
@ekoyal_gemu4446
@ekoyal_gemu4446 5 ай бұрын
@chernormajubah4672 I didn't say she was the main character also Lucy gray gajeel wendy laxus and many others literally die at the hands of mini dragon spawn. That's why she casted the spell and paid a hefty price for it too dying is literally the easy way out.
@chernormajubah4672
@chernormajubah4672 5 ай бұрын
@@ekoyal_gemu4446 almost dieing doesn't count but ultear literally came in the final arc and she wasn't even looking old
@justkaeden5959
@justkaeden5959 5 ай бұрын
If you thought the characters died, you didn't get the point of the show.
@felix2662
@felix2662 3 ай бұрын
Why death has to be important I don't want anyone to die The ones who died in one piece is ace and whitbeard also igneel's death was devastated to Natsu and me and ultear and simon Will see if oda has the guts to kill straw Hats members and why you think the author decided to kill them in the first place lol
@matcha-mooon
@matcha-mooon Жыл бұрын
I hate Fairy Tail so much bro. I can't stop hating it. Once you watch it, you can't unwatch it.
@wills4880
@wills4880 Жыл бұрын
Why? There are worse shows out there like One Piss
@PinkyPeach130
@PinkyPeach130 Жыл бұрын
@@wills4880actually i heard One Piece is more popular than Fairy Tail. People say you shouldn’t compare Fairy Tail to one of the big 3 anime because it just doesn’t compare to One Piece but hey everyone is entitled to their own opinions so whatever.
@thatanimegirlwiththecape4807
@thatanimegirlwiththecape4807 Жыл бұрын
​@@PinkyPeach130 it is way more popular than fairy tail and rightfully so. Fairy tail has a lot of flaws but doesnt mean is bad just because one is better. People always do this comparing shit and hate one show just because another is better.
@wills4880
@wills4880 Жыл бұрын
​@@PinkyPeach130By that same logic One Piss is better than FMAB and HXH since its more popular even though that's objectively false
@wills4880
@wills4880 Жыл бұрын
​@@PinkyPeach130The fact that anyone can casually claim that One Piss is miles better than Fairy Tail after that Gear 5 reveal is beyond me at this point, and that's not to say that it was better up until the Gear 5 thing it most certainly wasn't along with it having more plot armor, less tension less stakes and almost no character development after 26 years of repeating the exact same arc format
@buster3041
@buster3041 Жыл бұрын
Avatar is not anime
@YoungRaw478
@YoungRaw478 9 ай бұрын
Correct 💯
@MathewWoods-p9k
@MathewWoods-p9k 4 ай бұрын
You literally spammed two comments doing nothing. It try to insult me as much as possible but are now so messed up that you’re hiding behind “you’re insulting me! I’m reporting you!” Because of my one comment lmfao Also LOL you finally got restricted in another thread again. Enjoy
@AnimatedEscapism
@AnimatedEscapism 25 күн бұрын
You literally didn’t watch the anime, obviously 😒🙄
@fawazsh4831
@fawazsh4831 5 ай бұрын
Fairy Tail is the best anime, cry haters
@TheChuckfuc
@TheChuckfuc 5 ай бұрын
Enjoy eating those crayons
@chernormajubah4672
@chernormajubah4672 5 ай бұрын
Nobody crying😂 it's garbage
@Bruhbrother-r5c
@Bruhbrother-r5c 5 ай бұрын
@@chernormajubah4672Fr
@Gizzle272
@Gizzle272 4 ай бұрын
Then just explain the jiggle but gang if you can give me a REASONABLE excuse for a whole jiggle but gang arc you can leave....but you can't explain it can you😂😂😂
@_Minos
@_Minos 4 ай бұрын
@@chernormajubah4672 👈🏻 You are literally crying momas lil puhhy
@Caribbean-Man
@Caribbean-Man 2 жыл бұрын
most shounen is bad. people hate fairy tail and one piece is mashimas obvious inspiration!
@wills4880
@wills4880 2 жыл бұрын
People hate FT because they think it "ripped off" that series milking pile of shit One Piss
@H40_
@H40_ 10 ай бұрын
Where did you know this? Mashima's obvious inspiration is Dragon Ball not One Piece
@RYANARRADI
@RYANARRADI 9 ай бұрын
@@H40_it’s one piece
@H40_
@H40_ 9 ай бұрын
​@@RYANARRADI Stop capping and spreading misinformation Two manga series in particular were the main inspiration for him to become a professional manga artist: *Dragon Ball, a well known manga produced by Akira Toriyama* , and Ultimate Muscle, created by Yudetamago
@RYANARRADI
@RYANARRADI 9 ай бұрын
@@H40_ cry harder fairy tail is ass
@badguy8604
@badguy8604 7 ай бұрын
let me guess, all these fake fairytail deaths are cliffhangers at the end of a chapter, so all the little shonen fans get hyped for next week's chapter
@jeremygrandison1040
@jeremygrandison1040 2 ай бұрын
FAIRY TAIL IS PEAK, NOBODY CARES 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@LegendXD00
@LegendXD00 2 ай бұрын
@@jeremygrandison1040 then why did you comment? Peak mid maybe
@LegendXD00
@LegendXD00 2 ай бұрын
@@jeremygrandison1040 Riiight, all I heard was you trying so hard to pretend as if the past 5 years of DEI and forced agendas haven’t cost these companies billions and forced closures as well as massive firings yet you actually typed an entire essay doing all these massive mental gymnastics to pretend the reason isn’t obvious. No one wants to be talked down to nor do they appreciate being attacked and harassed for not buying their product or not agreeing with their political opinions. You are the living embodiment of the “leave that million dollar company alone, you’re hurting their feelings” meme personified because of how hard you’re fighting for it for no reason. There’s a reason Black Myth Wukong, Space Marine 2 or even Sparking Zero are making bank and loved by the majority when it has none of the forced(because it is forced) agenda in any of them.
@LegendXD00
@LegendXD00 2 ай бұрын
@@jeremygrandison1040 Riiight, all I heard was you trying so hard to pretend as if the past 5 years of DEI and forced agendas haven’t cost these companies billions and forced closures as well as massive firings yet you actually typed an entire essay doing all these massive mental gymnastics to pretend the reason isn’t obvious. No one wants to be talked down to nor do they appreciate being attacked and harassed for not buying their product or not agreeing with their political opinions. You are the living embodiment of the “leave that million dollar company alone, you’re hurting their feelings” meme personified because of how hard you’re fighting for it for no reason. There’s a reason Black Myth Wukong, Space Marine 2 or even Sparking Zero are making bank and loved by the majority when it has none of the forced(because it is forced) agenda in any of them. Lol
@LegendXD00
@LegendXD00 2 ай бұрын
@@jeremygrandison1040 Riiight, all I heard was you trying so hard to pretend as if the past 5 years of DEI and forced agendas haven’t cost these companies billions and forced closures as well as massive firings yet you actually typed an entire essay doing all these massive mental gymnastics to pretend the reason isn’t obvious. No one wants to be talked down to nor do they appreciate being attacked and harassed for not buying their product or not agreeing with their political opinions. You are the living embodiment of the “leave that million dollar company alone, you’re hurting their feelings” meme personified because of how hard you’re fighting for it for no reason. There’s a reason Black Myth Wukong, Space Marine 2 or even Sparking Zero are making bank and loved by the majority when it has none of the forced(because it is forced) agenda in any of them. Lmao
@LegendXD00
@LegendXD00 2 ай бұрын
@@jeremygrandison1040 Riiight, all I heard was you trying so hard to pretend as if the past 5 years of DEI and forced agendas haven’t cost these companies billions and forced closures as well as massive firings yet you actually typed an entire essay doing all these massive mental gymnastics to pretend the reason isn’t obvious. No one wants to be talked down to nor do they appreciate being attacked and harassed for not buying their product or not agreeing with their political opinions. You are the living embodiment of the “leave that million dollar company alone, you’re hurting their feelings” meme personified because of how hard you’re fighting for it for no reason. There’s a reason Black Myth Wukong, Space Marine 2 or even Sparking Zero are making bank and loved by the majority when it has none of the forced(because it is forced) agenda in any of them. Lol lmao
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