Faith and Spirituality in Warrior Cats | Those Cat Books at the Book Fair Part 5 (holiday special)

[@madamgalen225]

love all the different pronunciations of scourge

[@ChonkyCats]

I mispronounced Scourge throughout reading the books, when I heard someone say his actual name in a video I was like "What cat is that? Never heard of him." Lol

[@liuser]

scrooge and scrud and scurgle and scrudge and screege

[@Limenade8]

I pronounce it as Sk-R-ow-g'

[@howlinghellgar2214]

Honestly, I hope Mothwing doesn’t go to StarClan when she passes on. Not because she doesn’t have a connection with them, but because the concept of StarClan has caused her a lot of trauma that’s VERY similar to the religious trauma that actual people have. I don’t think she would be very happy living in an afterlife that would constantly remind her of her pain, and could be re-traumatizing in itself. I don’t want her to just fade away, but I would like to see her do something similar to what Ravenpaw did and just live on in an afterlife outside of StarClan. She wouldn’t even have to give up the connections she made during her life, since we see Jake enter StarClan temporarily to greet Tallstar after his death.

[@cawingcrows2072]

Leafpool is kinda like Cat Mary So like... not wanting to let her into kitty heaven is.... wild

[@indesomniac]

when i was a kid i also totally thought Tigerclaw lied about getting nine lives after Scourge insta-killed him

[@fairycat23]

Even if we're taking the "authors are Christian" approach to why medicine cats can't have mates or kits, it's still arbitrary because plenty of Protestant clergy are allowed to have spouses and children. Heck, in many Christian communities, the pastor and his wife (as it's traditionally a male pastor and his wife, but I've seen other combinations, including a nb pastor and their wife who is also a pastor!) are expected to be role models for marriage. So like. It depends on context.

[@GracieFitzpeter]

Nah I agree like Im Greek Orthodox and our priests can marry; Ive just personally seen a lot of people act confused about that. Like I remember a scandal where a Greek Orthodox priest cheated on his wife and a lot of people commenting on it were surprised he was married. So obviously different branches of Christianity have different ways of doing things, but just from personal experience I feel like there is a societal idea of holy figure = celibate.

[@jaceladag]

I hold that even with outright magic being real, the atheist cats are very justified in their beliefs. Afterall, the existence of magic doesn't necessarily imply StarClan specifically being real. And with multiple afterlives being simultaneously true, it isn't too farfetched too believe they could attribute it to a variety of other things.

[@mysryuza]

I like to think that atheists in Warriors are either no belief in StarClan or can accept that the spirits can exist, but don’t worship or follow StarClan. I don’t know if agnostic fits that latter description rather than atheist, actually. Idk what that would be called.

[@jaceladag]

@@mysryuza I would call that being irreligious. Atheist is about whether you believe or not, so by definition if you belive you aren't atheist. In our culture it's kind of assumed if you believe in the Christian God you *must* worship him hence the confusion, I think. But it's perfectly valid IMO to not worship or interact with every supernatural entity you may or may not believe in.

[@sillybillybear50]

I am HERE for this Bluestar analysis

[@LeoTheDowl]

When these fantastic series is done, you should combine all of them and call it "Warriors and the increasing hell: The documentary"

[@jeritheweirdchild]

For real

[@scarmoon9395]

Am I the only one who, when rereading the first series, thought it was so weird how in the first book starclan is seen as very benevolent, but for the rest of the series other cats always say shit that makes them sound more vengeful whenever anything bad happens. Seriously, it's like a difference between the New Testament God and the Old Testament god LMAO

[@scarmoon9395]

It was just such a noticeable shift. Not one negative thing was implied in Into the Wild. I reread it the other month and was confused when they suddenly started saying how angry 😡 starclan would be by book two about anything. I think I just chalked it up to bring different authors having different ideas, but now I have no idea what shifted

[@sophietremblay3795]

Well honestly star clan was really interesting during 6 cycles but since squirrelflight’s hope they are utterly disgusting and useless

[@ZirconiaGacha]

*Long comment alert* I like to make OCs based on issues I see in the series, but some turn into full-fledged storylines with multiple Clans full of characters, one of which I'm calling Bellstar's Tale. Bellstar was overall a good leader, then she's found bleeding from a wound on her neck with noone knowing who did it or how they didn't leave pawprints. Even worse, that was her last life: she was just dead now. But Bellstar's reputation was tarnished when, somehow, her spirit is seen roaming Clan Cat Hell and immediately she's a bad person to everyone. Well, everyone but her son Splashedpaw and the medicine cat Coldfish, who both think something's off. The two protagonists are Splashedpaw (obviously) and Lichenpaw, who has a StarClan-given gift of being unable to lie: he considers it a curse, as if he even tries to lie he goes mute until he either changes the subject or tells the truth of the matter. But forget Lichenpaw for now, right now we're focusing on Splashedpaw and Coldfish. Coldfish offers to bring Splashedpaw to StarClan to ask about what happened, but StarClan just dodges all the questions and gives no answers. So Splashedpaw tells Coldfish that if StarClan isn't saying anything, maybe the Dark Forest will. Now Lichenpaw comes into play. Turns out he was already there, and had gotten Bellstar as his mentor. But rather than teaching him to fight, she just... talks with him. Eventually she convinces him to stay up one night to stargaze with her outside the Dark Forest. The two cats talk for a while, when Lichenpaw asks why she took a turn away from StarClan. Here's some dialogue: Bellstar: "Well, Lichenpaw, you know of the stories of the day the sun went dark?" (referencing Power of Three) Lichenpaw: "Yes, what about it?" Bellstar: "The sun is a star. If the sun can go dark, so can StarClan. And just like the sun, if you stare too long at the stars, you your judgement can go blind." Splashedpaw didn't see that conversation, but Lichenpaw did see him in the Dark Forest a few times and decided to tell him about it. So Splashedpaw decides to ditch training with his own mentor this time and goes along with Lichenpaw. Bellstar doesn't mind, considering that Splashedpaw is her son. And so the two apprentices ask about why she's in the Dark Forest anyways. She decides that a cat who can tell no lies (even if he doesn't know it's a lie) and her own kit deserve to know, so she tells them about what happened the night she was found dead. Turns out StarClan needed her deputy to become leader, but she was a bit too young to die of old age just yet (still a senior warrior, though). So a few StarClan cats enter her dreams to remove her from her position by just killing her Freddy Krueger-style. Like any sensible cat would in this situation, Bellstar fights for her life: it's better to die fighting then let it happen, even if it was someone you trust and look up to. But of course, because she killed a StarClan cat, she gets sent to Clan Cat Hell and that's where this whole situation started. Splashedpaw and Lichenpaw are skeptical, but when Lichenpaw is able to repeat it without being put on mute, they realize that StarClan is who's to blame for all of it. Not sure where to go next, but it's my weird idea.

[@sophietremblay3795]

@@ZirconiaGacha it looks so cool

[@treplox4318]

@@ZirconiaGacha that's a really good idea, i really liked the mystery element and star metaphors, would love to see it as a fic!

[@Moony1568]

What a phenomenal video! Honestly, the craziness surrounding starclan is the reason why I haven’t read past TNP. A part of me wants to, but I can’t take “cats literally fighting and double-killing hell ghosts” seriously. To me, this focus on the afterlife shows how hard the Erin Hunter team stretched this premise to get a full story which is sad because “feral cats with a tight knit society dealing with each other and the natural world” is such a fantastic premise with a lot of potential! This reliance on their religion causing issues is so strange and off putting to me.

[@jeritheweirdchild]

As someone who's reading the last book of TNP, and who read the Manga revolving around graystripe trying to find the clan again, I can agree I wanna skip all the chatter of 3 power like felines and just see firestar's death. I don't know why, but the last hope has an exception.

[@yunogasai1338]

Seeing all of this pretty official art makes me wish there was an art book with all of the warrior cats art from every country. I mean some places had trading cards!

[@Tunawolf_edits]

Bluestars grief process is very deep because of how many close ones she’s lost so I don’t blame her

[@wygolvillage2637]

On the celibacy thing, in Moth Flight's Vision (the same book where this rule is first established) StarClan literally tells Moth Flight to prioritize her religion over her heart. So... Yeah. It's not the only in-universe reason but it IS one of them.

[@luthientinuviel3883]

I really like this analysis! Hearing about Warriors again (after not keeping up with the series for years) is truly a blast from rhe past!

[@1Katakana]

I remember while reading Power of Three, I just started to miss the structure/world of the first arc, so I closed the current book and began rereading Into the Wild (which gave me an "here's the magic of these books" feeling). But yeah, I remember, and miss, when the story was "here's some cats out there going through daily life", and not "here's a magical land, with supernatural cats, oh and here's a bunch of scenes that confirmes what happenes to dead cats and how their afterlife is going". I know the 1st arc wasn't 100% realistic (bloodclan cats having dog claws covering their own claws, really erins?), and it was more cool than world breaking for me when we got to actually see Firestar's leader ceremony, and what it was like losing a life, but it wasn't shoved in every cat's face or "there" as a major part of the story/overall plot for the rest of the 5 books (plus prophecies/warnings was, for the most part, - can only think of Firestar seeing himself as a lion as an exception - , sent through things that could actually occure in nature, or through downright nightmare filled dreams). Same with powers. Leafpool and Squirrelflight's connecting didn't really breake immertion for me, as it's the type of power you hear some people say they have as well. Same with Goosefeather's and Yellowfang's, plus they were all some generations apart, and the only ones of their generation (across all the clans as well). Then Power of Three, and later the other arcs, came out, and suddenly we have timetravel, timeloops, past lives, superpowers, 2 spirits apperently being able to be in 1 body (and the "passenger" can just up and leave to go to the afterlife later down the line on their own) you can be forced to dream/go to different places while sleeping, what happenes in dreams affects you in the waking world (be it wounds or straight up dying), your body could become possessed, your spirit could become mind controlled and/or summoned, you can cut off the connection between the living world and the afterlife with vines or twigs or whatever was used, there's a cat and another animal who has been around since apperently the dawn of time and holds more knowledge about their world than their afterlife does, your spirit can in fact be killed, your body and spirit can just be erased from exsistance (different from dying as a spirit who has already left its dead body) , everyone! can just see the spirits of their dead ancestores bouncing around right after their body dies and before they go to Starclan, and said spirits can physically help out living cats in need while in the living world. Had they only introduced reincarnation, it would have, while been a bit of a leap from the last 2 arcs, been better in my eyes, as some religions do have it as part of their belief, and most cats doesn't know that they are or who they were before, so it would have been easier to accept that big change/addition to the world/lore building. But with everything else they made canon at the same time it just became too much too fast, and it ripped away all the mystery, wonder and appeal of the first series. Also, I really appriciated Leafpool (and Squirrelflight) a lot more after Squirrelflight's Hope. Starclan's 100% put them up to this. They forced and manipulated them to take this part and have this be their destiny. And then they have the gall to ask why they should be allowed to stay instead of going to the Dark Forest due to how their life played out and the situation they were in? The cats judging them had done the exact same things themselves, without Starclan pushing them and blocking every other path, and yet instead of bowing their heads, apologicing and treating Leafpool and Squirrelflight like heros, they act high and mighty and question if the sisters are worthy of joining them at their side instead of banishing them to the Dark Forest for choices the Starclan cats themselves set up for and made for them with 0 regards for the two sisters because it was oh so important to all the clans and Starclan itself? This book really made me dislike Starclan, and honestly I would see it as a win at this point if the series ends with the clan cats tearing themselves away from Starclan and actually lives their own lives. If we ever does get that warriors movie, I would see it as a positive change if they stick with keeping Starclan how it was in the first 6 books (if they get more than one movie). Can you imagine if the trail scene had involved Ashfur as one of the cats shown as worthy of staying in Starclan with the, hypocrit, judge cats while they looked down on and asked Squirrelflight and Leafpool to pleade for their case in order to convince them? Plus the scene where, Mothflight I think, says that it didn't have to be Jay, Holly and Lion, and that they could have chosen any cats for the prophecy. 1st, so that a new power they apperently have that came out of nowhere. 2nd, so even when the option to choose a warrior with a mate in the same clan was there, they still decided that it had to be Leafpool who needed to be given the task that goes against her way of life as a medicine cat and! a clan cat? That really didn't make them look any better. Ashfur being in Starclan in the 1st place opens the can of worms that, apperently it's really easy to just lie yourself in. Some moments of groveling and saying you're oh so very sorry, and Starclan will apperently go "oh ok then, no worries. Welcome in", and just sweep any action under the rug. Plus it's the fact that when he 1st appeared as a Starclan cat, Starclan claimed that they had no say in who got there or not, just that the cat's spirit will find its way if it's worthy, so Ashfur apperently didn't even have to convince anybody. If Starclan's only! interaction with/words to Leafpool during this entire time had been "Follow your heart", I could have understood why they would have been dissapointed in Leafpool at the end (and how they could have felt that they obviously meant follow your heart towards your work, family and your loyalty to your code). However!, that would not change the fact that she absolutely didn't deserve a trail and risk going to the dark forest, seeing how Bluestar and Yellowstone had done the exact same thing, and was still seen as these big figures in the afterlife. Heck, Greystripe was seen as worthy enough to instantly be guided to Starclan after having done the exact! same as Leafpool, and Firestar is the most praised cat of all, when he broke the code and went behind his clan's back several times before he become leader (with his only reasoning being that it was the right thing to do/the better outcome/for the greater good to do so, and apperently Starclan was fully onboared with him all those time, cause it's never showen being brought up/never showen it being thrown in Firestar's face as a negative example about him). The Erins seriously, down right ruined Starclan, and most likely only put that scene in cause they wanted one more moment of drama/tention. The fact that the Erins sat there and thought "Cat who birthed 2 of the crusial cats for the clans continued survival/exsistance, cat who devoted her her life to her clan expect for 1 day w/Crowfeather and when having to give birth, cat whom found the place that makes it so we're able to actually watch over and communicate with the clans, cat who was loyal to us and followed our every word/order even when it means living in pain and judgement for it. This! cat, totally needs to defend why we shouldn't chuck her with cats who wanted to destroy and/or control the clans and had no problem leaving a river of blood behind them in order for them to reach their goal. Cause obviously! her actions are so much worse than ex-es that wants to axe off kits that has the mix of the blood of a she-cat he liked and a tom that isn't him, and! his leader because of that fact, a cat that let a rival leader take over her clan and axe off any of her clan mates he saw fit, and a cat that gave his full support and freely/gladly followed two! leaders in their quest to destroy/control all the other clans for their own sake/for their own, destructive, selfsentered wants". 🙄 Sure, that makes perfect/logical sense. I'm wondering if it would actually count as victim blaming. "The tom who nearly killed your kits, two whom we all need for the sake of everyone's future! , and plotted with the enemy to kill your father, whom was also! needed for the same prophecy, and kind off somewhat succseeded regarding how Firestar did lose one life, gets to stay cause he was motivated with too much love towards you little she-cat, and he didn't actually! succseede in ending the life of 4! different clanmates. You! though?! How dare! you be fueled with love for some random tom and bring the very same life into this world that all the clans depended on exsisting in order to keep our group going, you bitch?! Explaine yourself in other ways than "We ordered!/maniuplated! you to do it as our world needs to go on!". If not victim blaming, then certainly sexist.

[@1Katakana]

Just imagine if the story where that StarClan has! to follow the warrior code, cause their whole, living life revolved around that, and if they don't, why should they expect the living cats do it in order to honor them? That would explain, and cause conflict, with why cats like Brokenstar, Tigerstar and Blackstar got their 9 lives. They were the deputy rightfully chosen, and the leader is dead, so it's now their duty/destiny to take over/fill the position, and the cats (both living and StarClan) just has to hope that the cat doesn't cause misery and pain, with a new cat ready to continue that reality as deputy. Plus it would support the "we don't/can't control you and decide your life for you" mindset of theirs, even in situations where the living cats probably would want! the StarClan cats themselves to come down and demand/force a differance. That could also be used to explain why Nightstar didn't get any extra lives. By law Brokenstar was their rightful leader, and he had not held/chosen Nightstar as his deputy (not a good reasoning considering the situation and that the whole mess would be solved by granting him his 9 lives, but it would keep the "we're bound by the code and can't interfere with your still living life" world building consistant, and paint StarClan in a more grey light, instead of showing them as a force of ultimate right/good, cause they know Brokenstar, Tigerstar and Blackstar's pasts, and what they could/would do to their clan/to the clans upon being granted ultimate power, and they still choose to stick to the code, that was made so that the living cats can be viewed favourably by them, no matter what and risk everything and keep the suffering/ruin going). And also for situations where both the leader and deputy is dead, StarClan would still have to let the living cats decide/vote for who should lead them next, in order for them to actually be in control of and living their own lives (maybe the 4 first leaders would have something to say, as they were chosen by their very first ancestores, and knows what that situation is/feels like, and choose the cat that would have been chosen as the next deputy had the old one not died before they became leader, but the rest of StarClan would stand to the side in order to not pull any strings and puppeteer any cat, and because that "destined to be the next deputy" mentioned cat might now have a new destiny that could/should play out - sort of like Cinderpelt suddenly being ripped from the warrior path and put on the medicine cat path -. Could cause some tension between the different StarClan cats as well, so show how they're still mostly just like what they were like when they were alive). Also, something that could have helped the cats when it comes to getting judged. Show flashes of the newly dead cat's life, based on their feelings during/after their bad/evil deeds, had they ended up living to an old age instead. Would they have lived a life of regret and/or trying to atone, or would they have been happy with their crimes, and/or gone on to do more rule breaking? Sure, it might sound too out there and too magical/mystical, but I say f it, seeing how we at this point already have timetravel, reincarnation, timeloop (modern Jayfeather affects the ancient's lives so that they can become the clans and Jayfeather can be reborn), the connection between the living world and the afterlife can be cut off (using vines, twigs or whatever it was) spirits that has been alive since the dawn of time as they're cursed to live forever, dying while dreaming, summoning spirits/ghosts, being erased from all/every plaine of exsistance, spirits/ghosts being able to be killed a second time even though they don't have a body that relies on air or blood, bodypossession, manipulation/control over spirits/ghosts, cats with magical powers, and spirits/ghosts can come down/show themselves and physically help out a living cat in trouble anyway. And, While Quick Water is long gone, Shadowstar sure isn't. She should definetly had spoken up for Juniperclaw, seeing how the cat that axed her off and tried to destroy her clan was granted, apperently, automatic access into StarClan along with her by simply just saying one "Sorry, that was wrong of me" line. The trails StarClan have should really include StarClan cats who have broken the same code and gotten in, who are willing to speak on the behalf off and support the cat being judged.

[@inarjollyhound]

Perhaps one or more of the editors either believe in the “Just World” paradox, or otherwise just see it as a compelling reality to write stories in? Where Karma always catch up to the villains regardless of how much they gain advantage or are given undeserved power, and like-wise all truely good people will inevitably get rewarded for their deeds regardless of how much bullshit they deal with in the meantime. Therefore, Tigerstar and other leaders that are accepted by their clans still get their lives, because it’s not Starclan’s duty to oppose the system, since “Fate will always steer things in the right direction eventually.” It might not just be that Starclan’s powerless to nature and Fate. But they are near completely subservient to it.

[@DragonArbock]

My headcannon theory was always that the dark forest gave the bad cats nine lives. Is a shame that's not true.

[@skibitybee]

ok i like this so much it should be canon raaah

[@retoened12347]

This is honestly one of the best warriors Analysis videos I’ve seen in a LONG time. Please please make more videos. This was really well put together and I’d love to hear more of your thoughts on the series as a whole over it’s different topics/themes. I’m so glad I found your channel.

[@Swiftsdragons]

Because of this I now have a headcanon/theory that most leaders will live their lives more dangerously because of their extra lives and that the other warriors are generally more cautious since they don't get those extra lives, which leads to most average cats outliving their leaders. So, thanks for pointing that out and thusly contributing to my headcanon of this series that I both love and hate at the same time. ^v^

[@FrostedIce]

it’s really upsetting that these videos don’t get more attention, personally i get genuinely excited when these come out and I hope you keep up the awesome work! ^^

[@strawberrycelia]

The Night in the Woods music in the background blasted me with nostalgia

[@yunogasai1338]

I really need to finish reading the dawn of the clans so I can move on and start the broken code. I wanted to finish the prequel story so I could finally read Mothflight's vision.

[@nonbinarychaoticstupid6678]

the irony of one of the most queercoded characters in the entire series be an atheist is so fucking funny to me from an atheist jewish perspective

[@sindrevangenrobberstad2889]

The analysis of Bluestar's character arc was immaculate. I really enjoy these videos!

[@lalas181]

I love this series! It always makes me smile when I see a new one of these videos.

[@tiredsunny6206]

“Scrdle” , “Skarge” it’s so amazing I have a whole book of ways to say scourge XD

[@leafwhisker1330]

We definitely needed this to start of the no school holidays. Wow this was amazing and kept me up all night. your the best

[@justtaralynn]

I love these videos!! Keep them coming :)

[@tigerwoman4411]

Its disgusting how Jayfeather hates Mothwing for not believing in Starclan

[@mysryuza]

I figured that cats in the afterlife can’t have kits because they don’t have a physical body to do it, since we don’t know how spirits have babies with each other (besides mythology), at least as Warriors are concerned. The motive of Bluestar getting deputyship is hugely ironic af, which makes her act of giving up her kits look straight up pointless. But thankfully, her kits knew how to swim and were able to save Fireheart and retrieve Bluestar before she dies later. While some of her conclusions are just ridiculous, I can’t help but feel my heart breaking when I see Bluestar interpreting that StarClan was punishing her and abandoned her, as I had these similar feelings when it comes to feeling as if God abandoned me and was punishing me instead of protecting me from an abusive parent and how my life turned out growing up. I understand her paranoia, but I can’t excuse her terrible job as leader when it rolled in. Honestly the “StarClan doesn’t make mistakes, it’s all supposed to happen” thing feels too much like how people say that it’s “God’s will” when certain things happen, including death that could have been avoided. I find it funny how one with 9 lives tend to live shorter than a cat with one. I always find the faint copy of a leader interesting but a little creepy. Like, I’d be so confused to visit the afterlife in a dream or some astral projection and see a copy of myself just staring at me and demand someone there to explain it to me 😂 Bruh StarClan’s logic with Leafpool really went “Hey you’re gonna birth some cats that are gonna help save the clans, but you’re still going to hell for it” 😂😂💀 I wished that the Brightflower and Lilywhisker incident wouldn’t repeat after it was retconned, but then the Frecklewish controversy reopened the wound and it made me convinced that the website was run by pro-Mapleshade fans that didn’t know what context was. Like, imagine being sent to hell for being sad and manipulated by your grandson, feeling miserable over your disability, and not kermit sewerside to save someone when you know you won’t live or be able to save them. That’s already enough for someone to not believe in StarClan had the characters knew this. How many times are these Psuedo-DF cats incidents gonna happen until it stops for good? Btw, I absolutely love your nicknames for Scourge so much 😂👌🏼 I didn’t care about the MothPool ship before, but now I support it when people actually came forward with more detail of why the ship is a thing

[@madamgalen225]

New cat video new cat video new cat video!! Take as long as you want with these we’re just happy when they happen :)

[@darkninjafirefox]

Bluestar was right, at this point Starclan have been far more cruel than comforting. Especially considering what they did to Leafpool and Squirrelflight

[@rotomfan63]

Now i want take those lines from when Bluestar is all "fuck starclan" and play the League Of Legends/Legends of Runeterra Pantheon theme over them, which i doubt many people other than me here know enough League lore to know why i would want to but if you do know that lore, you know exactly why i would want to do that

[@sunniwithani]

Just wanted to comment to let you know how cool this series is! I had this video recommended to me yesterday and I’ve binged all the previous to get to it! These are amazing videos, I really hope you find a lot of success in the new year!

[@jamesedenart]

I saw this in my uploads and immediately went to make popcorn and settle down to watch.

[@abrahamjean8176]

Well, I still think it is a lack of faith on the side of Scourge which makes him lose., StarClan isn't some all-powerful force of course, but belief in them gives the Clans one thing (or two ig): hope and assurance. That's why when Firestar comes back, he is able to defeat Scourge- he literally has nine lives to spare and with him believing that the StarClan cats who he loved and who gave him those lives fighting the last fight alongside him (as they would in real time many seasons later) he knows he can take down Scourge. You do have a point about the more logical side of Scourge's demise, but I was just saying i think the point the authors were making (at least what it seemed to be) makes sense.

[@lisawhereisthecultjam]

You are absolutely wonderful and I am so happy to have found your channel.

[@wygolvillage2637]

Also this is one of the best Bluestar analyses I've ever seen omg

[@conmereth]

I really enjoyed this Warrior Cats worldbuilding deep-dive, hoping to see more WC content in the future!

[@Pubbs_TheClown]

Also the whole "doing any "bad" thing could land you in the dark forest but there no amount of good to let you into starclan" is a VERY prominent christian stance, which is just shit to teach kids unintentionally or not

[@charles21137]

The Christian stance isn’t that doing good doesn’t help, but because us doing unintentional bad things our way are good deeds, so you must ask for forgiveness from time to time.

[@Jan-gh7qi]

​Hate to be that guy, but it really depends on the brand of Christian, both exist. Oversimplifying it: - There is the OG catholic: You are a sinner, but If you really do a lot of good stuff, you might get into heaven maybe. - The Lutheran: You are a sinner but gods lets you into heaven If you want to, because he ist a nice guy and because of that, you have to be the best Version, you can. -The Calvinist: Its already decided If you go to heaven or not but you have to try your best anyway. And so many in between

[@daydreamer8941]

I like Fireheart arc before he became leader. I haven't caught up with all the later books but its refreshing to see a protagonist who uninteionally fulfilled a propechy versus characters who know they are "special" and hate it with every ounce of their being.

[@Divint12]

Honey, with how thorough your battle cats vids are I'll happily wait however long it takes you to pop one out. You know how hard it is to find well constructed thoughts on my favorite silly cat books?

[@tripled2096]

oh boy more cat discussion

[@scruumblewuumble6901]

It wasn't that she died in the dark forest, it's that she was in the river, which kills any cat or spirit that touches it. But if you die in the dark forest you don't immediately fade.

[@tajemniczanazwa5280]

12:21 Vicky is an atheist idk what other authors belives

[@Redactedawn]

Man is this video underrated as hell

[@leefee5369]

There is a REAL moonstone, and if you put it under the moon it glows.

[@holly.sketches.melancholy]

I love how much you swear lol

[@jweaver9089]

i think the real reason that medicine cats can't have a mate or kits is because they'll have to be away from their job and usually there's only one or two med cats

[@chu-chuns]

whats the animation from at 47:10 ? it sparked an old memory for me but I cant remember what that is...

[@logane8209]

More cats the better.

[@user-vw4xp5nt9f]

very cool video

[@gingermaniac5484]

okay, about the atheist part of the video, I as an atheist (who really really likes religion as a fascinating concept and the cultures that surround different religions) I really really like that the protagonist clan atheists are depicted as being somewhat stubborn, varied in personality, a little bit daft while still being at least somewhat well meaning because it gives us insight on how the authors view atheists and in a way, their own religion. I think that's really cool. I like that we can see the world through the writers eyes even in a fantasy setting where their beliefs are not cannon but rather their imagination. sure, it might not be the best for a story telling perspective but it isn't the worst either =} i also find it funny how the atheists cannot comprehend ghosts coming from the afterlife realm to fight against and amongst their peers like.. that's not something you can test multiple times, it can't be tried as a theory in a lab. that is a one time thing of course it's unbelievable even in front of your own eyes. I doubt most people would accept that as fact even if they are religious, it would be easy to chalk it up to an adrenaline/stress based mass hallucination. not unlike a Ouija board, think of all the stress the clans had gone through before the battle, the build up it must have been exhausting. I deal with among other things stress based hallucinations due to a mixture of genetics and trauma so I know from personal experience that some (some) religious and spiritual people have chalked my *serious medical issues* as a "gift" and reason to practice a faith (don't fucking do this, even if you think you're helping and regardless of if your spiritual beliefs are true there wouldn't be a way to distinguish real ghost shenanigans to a psychosis issue it would hurt your cause as well as the victim of poor mental health) that I just never have believed in. I can relate to mothwing for wanting to look for reasons more realistic to her before potentially giving in to some deep psychological problems especially in her field of medicine.

[@LavenderDoesStufYT]

I’m pretty sure most of this video will just be me being mad at Bluestar all over again. But I haven’t finished this video yet soooo.

[@scarmoon9395]

Mothwing x Leafpool forever

[@Mimikyu007]

Omg my meme template shows Up in minute 1:11:03 JAJSJSJ

[@sorrelmoon]

DID I SOMEHOW MISS THIS GETTING UPLOADED…

[@owlwhisker0w031]

This will probably get lost in the comments but is there an email I can send art to? I’d love to contribute to your videos! Drawing warriors is incredibly enjoyable for me and you’ll find some very old art on my channel but it’s a lot better now. I can also take free requests! :)

[@elvinvaliyev681]

Black night 61

[@justadiamondwithinternetac3662]

Hi

[@Obsessive_cartoon_drawer]

You sound like Mina loveberry ( I mean that in the best of ways)

[@fency372]

v

[@NT-sx2bd]

The authors most likely aren't Cristian and the medicine cats can't take a mate or start a family because they wouldn't have enough time to dedicate to both things.

[@alvianofresident]

i believe in allah dude