Haters gonna hate. Simon, on The Favorites podcast, is spot on and gives out great advice. Not sure why Canadians have to shit on him. He and Chad have a great YT podcast running weekly. Highly recommend. SImon was a millionaire at a young age in betting and has made money consistently.
@ryanc98884 ай бұрын
lol
@mr.q80239 күн бұрын
No he wasn't and no he didn't. He inherited money from his parents. But yes, he uses it to gamble on sports.
@nolimit_rich51858 ай бұрын
" Exposed " is too strong of a word. He does not try to scam anyone. His picks of late haven't been the best but thats about it. If you guys are going to have an hour video about someone being exposed due to how they carry themselves and what they tey to get out of their own personal agenda, there are plenty of other people. Simon isn't the one to go after. It seems there was too much nitpicking about words he used when there are truly scammers on KZbin lying to the world to try and take your money.
@CirclesOffHQ8 ай бұрын
Misrepresenting himself as a winning pro bettor is the equivalent of running a scam in our opinion. People will tail his action under false pretenses.
@nolimit_rich51858 ай бұрын
@@CirclesOffHQ Fair enough
@kevindoran7099 Жыл бұрын
I was a losing gambler and have won big money 3 straight nfl seasons thanks to Simon. Don't care if he lies, he's great at handicapping games and doesn't try to sell picks. Weird to try and bash that guy for clicks.
@chosensports8 ай бұрын
Yeah right lmao
@kevindoran70998 ай бұрын
@@chosensports it is right. Let me guess, you sell picks and are mad that someone better than you is giving picks away for free. Piss off.
@dallas1love8 ай бұрын
The guy is not lying. These Canadians are obviously fos and are either not understanding what Simon is saying or intentionally misrepresenting it.
@JvstinCharles8 ай бұрын
You guys are kinda reaching here. Maybe he doesn’t explain himself clearly all the way but at the end of the day we are trying ti win. Simon has given out tons of free nfl winners. That’s all that matters.
@CirclesOffHQ8 ай бұрын
He's also given out more free NFL losers and that's publicly documented on Action Network's website. So I guess that's all that matters?
@lukebickerstaff7383 Жыл бұрын
The October 2021 bit had me on the damn floor
@LABoyko6 ай бұрын
Simon never explained what one buys when they buy a syndicate. Makes no sense.
@bartonhewett5705 Жыл бұрын
Where can we get Betstamp hats?
@ricojohnson58682 ай бұрын
This has cost me so much money it's ridiculous. The amount of times he has scared me off my picks to follow his is shameful for both of us.
@KeepSkatin2093 күн бұрын
Some serious beta energy coming from these two. Imagine spending a whole hour of your show "getting triggered" and looking for reasons to hate on another grown man. SOFT.
@JanoyCresva7 ай бұрын
I havent lost a client in 5 years. WHats the point of the waiting list if you cant get in? If hes telling you that you'll never get in because his picks are so good nobody wants to give up their spot. What a crock of shit. He said you can pick and choose and he gets everyone reupping. So shit, what if everyone only chooses football? Now are the cricket and basketball guys not getting any clients because its restricted to 100? This is super fishy and seems like "fake it till you make it" type mumbo jumbo
@gobsmacked1232 жыл бұрын
We need more pods like this. You could definitely do something with a more positive spin instead but this was one of your more powerful videos and I appreciated getting your honest reactions to this because I had a hard time processing it myself
@xpertbandit80097 ай бұрын
I think you keep the client list low because if you deal with rich people you could possibly move the lines. Imagine 1,000,000 people betting Lions +3 within an hour. Wouldn't the line move wildly?
@Blaqmench8 ай бұрын
I'm team Simon Hunter.....This video has 13k views a year ago and these 2 "Haters" only has 4k "Subscribers" in 2024 #That tells sensible people all you need to know about these 2 🤡's
@anthonyscerbo82748 ай бұрын
Dude. Simon tracks his bets on action network. It shows he’s down 20 units lifetime in NFL. Also, I don’t know how to put it besides, you should educate yourself on something first. Be honest with yourself… have you really paid for his picks and won? Or are you possibly upset you’ve been paying for losers, and could be wrong about something…
@tbewin1z1437 ай бұрын
@@anthonyscerbo8274he gives his picks out for free, whoops
@allthingselevated47967 ай бұрын
They don’t track all bets on that app. Just some so it shoes they use the app. Simon hits I’ve been following them all year and they are about 73% this season
@Blaqmench7 ай бұрын
@@allthingselevated4796 Simon is money 💰 in my humble opinion.....Those 2 guys certified Hater's!
@funisnumberone17 ай бұрын
@@anthonyscerbo8274 Is that twenty units down on ALL picks, or just on his best picks for each week?
@GQElvie11 ай бұрын
sorry guys, I wanted to like what you had to say, and I have no skin in this game, and Simon probably was BS ing a little, but it seemed like you were LOOKING for things to pick apart---- and then you lost all cred at about the 33 minute minure mark--- if you don't know there is a contrarion theory out there (that any bookie who is telling the truth will tell, it works in the long run, i.e the public will be wrong 55% or so of the time--at least when it is heavily tilted one way), you are true novices, and have no business doing this podcast.
@17Cali3210 ай бұрын
this aint the right channel for you if you truly believe this
@tbewin1z1438 ай бұрын
@@17Cali32the guy literally said that if the public is wrong 55% of the time, the. fading them would give you a 55% win rate, which is simple math and correct; the problem is the public has been correct more often than not this year, so fading them this year is not a wise move
@17Cali328 ай бұрын
How many coins do you know that you can flip over and over and over the result in one side coming up 55%. The public hits at 50% and they lose because of the vig.
@tbewin1z1438 ай бұрын
@@17Cali32 The public have been winning close to 70% this year! That is nowhere close to 50. The fact that you think that the books even get close to their desired 50/50 split speaks volumes. Plenty of sites out there that track various books like VSIN, Scores and Odds, Sports Betting Dime will tell you that (Action also tracks the bets of it's users). The public doesn't play numbers as much as it plays the side regardless if its -5.5 or -6.5. Guys like Simon get this and guys like you and these dorks in the video don't apparently.
@CirclesOffHQ8 ай бұрын
He was very clearly not referring to 50/50 split in volume and referring to 50/50 in terms of picking ATS winners over a long period of time.
@allthingselevated47967 ай бұрын
Simon and Chad are consistent and give picks out every week for free. They don’t ask to join expensive groups . Y’all some haters lol
@huckleberryfinn8795Ай бұрын
That is literally what scammers do 😂 they give free picks, some people will win and they hope they join the expensive service. Real valuable picks are NOT given out for free on a regular basis. EVER.
@wilkman72182 жыл бұрын
Show me POTATO SALAD!!!
@novakjohnson236218 күн бұрын
Wonder what u all think of sportsline
@ecolt02 жыл бұрын
Any syndicates for sale?
@MrJamberee2 жыл бұрын
You are in luck. I have a top syndicate I can sell you.
@BillBondsHasAPosse Жыл бұрын
Rob you couldn’t be more right, I don’t know why the other guy (co-host) is so slow on the uptake.
@kabutoyakushi661811 ай бұрын
They couldn't be more wrong.
@insight70138 ай бұрын
@@kabutoyakushi6618 move along jerk-off.....quit sticking up for your boyfriend LOL!!!!!!
@ecolt05 ай бұрын
@@kabutoyakushi6618 lol
@Hy-xs6rp9 ай бұрын
These guys are just haters. I follow Simon as well. He’s a smart guy
@insight70138 ай бұрын
he's a clown
@AmateurHourSports2 жыл бұрын
High quality content again, gentlemen
@kabutoyakushi661811 ай бұрын
I agree. Very High Quality crying and being jealous.
@insight70138 ай бұрын
@@kabutoyakushi6618 Kabuto Yakushi is a major antagonist in the Naruto franchise LOSER!!!!
@walkingspottedbear9 ай бұрын
Wow if you guys can make money being completely charlatan haters I'm gonna start making videos. I'm 3/4 of the way through and I've heard these guys say at least 3 things that simply aren't true. One example is the idea that working harder or putting more hours into capping will not help you make more profitable bets. What a ridiculous thing to say. I can't count how many times I've been off a bad day or a bad week and just work harder at it and make lots of money and at the end of the day I say to myself 'Man that was hard work'. Professional betters have long ago busted the myth of closing line value. It doesn't matter one way or the other. What's important always is having the right side. I'm going to give you guys one more video to impress me here
@CirclesOffHQ8 ай бұрын
It doesn’t seem as though you understand what’s going on. Suggesting that pro bettors have proven CLV to be worthless is a fairly telling example of that. Good luck with your future endeavours.
@ecolt05 ай бұрын
lol
@walkingspottedbear5 ай бұрын
My point is if I bet UNLV -3 at open, they get all the way up to 5 by close, then New Mexico beats them outright as a 5 point underdog... The main thing is picking the right side to begin with. If the pistons open at +12, it gets to +15, and they get beaten by 20 but I've got a ticket for them at +15 that showed positive ev according to a model, the case is likely that my model doesn't know what the books' does. 'I WANT WINNERS!' -Mike singletary
@ecolt05 ай бұрын
@@walkingspottedbear lol
@DK_DFS4 ай бұрын
This is the best thing I’ve watched all year! Thank you guys 🤝
@arthurfonzarelli9828 Жыл бұрын
Anybody that says there's trap games just means they don't understand what the edges in that particular game. That is the dumbest comment I've ever heard and instantly lose his credibility with all bettors when I hear it
@FlatEarthOracle11 ай бұрын
I disagree with this sort of, there are absolutely "trap lines" which inherently means its a "Trap game" by definition. Plus there are all sorts of grey areas when it comes to look ahead spots and revenge angles that kind of play into the "trap game" narrative. However in situatios like this past weekend where everyone was betting Nebraska over Colorado just because the "public" was all over Colorado and it was a "trap game" are literally fktards.
@jonjone66110 ай бұрын
You can some there’s a trap game then go over the trends and deeper stats after. Not required to give everyone all your info
@sl8038 Жыл бұрын
You guys come across as haters.
@insight70138 ай бұрын
You come across as a troll
@MAJOR-D6 ай бұрын
I don’t know what you two are doing criticizing another young man , it’s very difficult to win 60/65% of your wages at the end of the season unless you’re picking 70/80% Wich is nearly impossible and really know how to manage money gambling is very difficult and thinking I know more than someone else is not easy but I’d still make sure my own house is in order before I criticize someone else.
@CirclesOffHQ6 ай бұрын
Oh don't worry, our houses are in order! Thanks for checking in though
@joelnorris68952 жыл бұрын
this is so funny yet infuriating
@sethwilliams7206 ай бұрын
I’ve seen a couple of this dudes videos and personally they weren’t for me. There isn’t really a benchmark to determine if someone is a “professional” gambler. Anyone who has been betting for a few years and won money can claim they are a pro…so I tend to think those self proclaimed people are full of it. There are so many fake betting “gurus” out there who are scamming people out of money. I’d like to see someone expose them instead of some guy with gives out free picks and just has a big ego.
@bigboy226914 ай бұрын
Been following simon and chad for years, havent had a bad season since. They inform you what the sharp players are doing and what they are betting. Not to mention its all free. Im new to your guys page. Asking honestly, if you guys are better at football, do you post picks i can tail?
@CirclesOffHQ4 ай бұрын
We have a football channel as part of our network where Rob appears regularly: www.youtube.com/@FwdProgressHQ
@bab32938 ай бұрын
This guys voice sounds like a teacher's nails on a chalkboard while smoking a carton of cigarettes 🚬 🚬🚬🚬 🚬 🚬💨💨💨💨💨💨
@kenwong5189 ай бұрын
Great clip. I been following him n Chad millmen past 2 year and I won . Sounds like he’s a fraud but he’s been decent on nfl.
@CirclesOffHQ9 ай бұрын
Hey Ken, nobody is disputing whether Chad or Simon wins. We actually applaud both for at least keeping a public record of their picks. We think the video speaks for itself in that there is someone passing themself off as an industry expert when they are not.
@kenwong5189 ай бұрын
Agree with that.
@josephshields94227 ай бұрын
I’m guessing these guys tailed one of Simon’s picks, bet their kid’s college fund, it didn’t pan out, now they’re out for some revenge.
@CirclesOffHQ7 ай бұрын
Tough to bet the kids' college funds when neither of the hosts has kids
@deleee23135 ай бұрын
I’ve delayed watching this as I’m scared of 2nd hand embarrassment, but my god I’m 1000% convinced these hate comments have to be from Simon burners. There’s actually not a single person on earth who has or ever will attempt to gain an edge gambling that could ever defend Simon’s nonsensical blabbering. I’m genuinely confused.
@tsc919810 ай бұрын
There’s thousands of people desperately trying to sell picks while this guy has his all available for free, so this was disappointing to see a desperate attack on an unworthy victim. The CLV comment was a good point to make until you spoke on him adding to small wagers while the line moves- he makes small picks then watches the line to decide the final pick or bet out of it like many people do. There’s just too many negative assumptions without knowledge of what he’s really doing.
@mikewilliams35098 ай бұрын
Do you guys give out picks?
@LeighKaminskiWoharAbuseskids2 жыл бұрын
You guys mentioned that you were trying to get Simon or even Chad Millman on the show to discuss this but I’m going to guess they both simply didn’t respond because they are straight up avoiding and blocking all comments regarding this on their social medias. BTW it shouldn’t have taken this long to expose “Simon Hunter”, if any of you had listened to even two or three episodes of “The Favorites” podcast you would’ve known within seconds of him speaking something was way off. Lastly I wish you guys addressed how completely fucking idiotic it is that “Simon” hides his name but literally told everyone that he worked on the Jersey Shore behind the scenes among many other intimate details about his life. What an absolute clown.
@andrewbranson48742 жыл бұрын
I love how Chad Millman struts around the internet like someone who "knows a lot" about the professional sports betting space when his job is just a bunch of SEO related stuff
@kabutoyakushi661811 ай бұрын
Yeah he only wrote best selling books even back in the late 90s following professional bettors and has been friends with many professionals and others in the space for decades. Has been sports betting for decades. Was editor-in-chief at ESPN, Made his own sports betting company and app that sold for $240 million. Yeah he doesn't know nearly as much as you do! Back to McDonalds bud.
@andrewbranson487411 ай бұрын
@@kabutoyakushi6618 lmfao
@tylercroskey246211 ай бұрын
@@kabutoyakushi6618damn roasted him too hard lol
@pstick993410 ай бұрын
Chad did say that the wise guys liked denver before the miami massacre , and colin never brought that up later
@kabutoyakushi661810 ай бұрын
@@pstick9934 I can tell you don't do this for a living lol picking the Denver side is always the correct side in that game in the long run. That game was an absolute anomaly. You are probably the same guy who took Miami and thought it was easy the next following week against the bills.
@TheBigshot78910 ай бұрын
Action Network has only seemed legit to me. They nail a majority of their picks. Idk the specifics of how much they actually bet but their picks are legit, and they have the receipts for years to show it.
@CirclesOffHQ8 ай бұрын
One thing we appreciate about TAN is that their hosts track picks within their app. Transparency is important. That's why it's also puzzling that Simon is regularly defended as a winning bettor when he has over 1000 picks tracked and is down several units on NFL wagering. As you say, the receipts are there, and they don't paint a good picture.
@clayevins67957 ай бұрын
Why his show called circles off ? Just curious.
@CirclesOffHQ7 ай бұрын
Circles Off is a reference to when sportsbooks increase to higher limits. Typically speaking, when sportsbooks put out lines, they are "circled", meaning that limits are rather small. They take bets at smaller limits before increasing to larger limits (circles off) when they feel comfortable that their line is more accurate.
@anthonyscerbo82748 ай бұрын
One thing Simon does that makes him special is he tracks every single bet on action network. If you goto action, you can see he’s actually a losing nfl gambler. He literally tracks it. Jesus you guys are hilarious. Figure out when to stop dying on a hill over something your wrong about. Simon is not a professional, or even a casual gambler who’s profitable.
@funisnumberone17 ай бұрын
NO gambler bets every game, every week. You've gotta go by his four or five (or one) best bets of the week. Those are the ones to bet, not every freaking game.
@jere9100 Жыл бұрын
Based on what I just watched this will go over you guys heads. But Simon is on another level from where you are. If you would have done any research on his picks you would discover he is a world class nfl bettor, having finished very high in professional betting tournaments over the years. Just because you couldn’t understand his hurried statements doesn’t mean he’s a fraud, rather it makes you look ignorant. All the statements that were baffling your heads are easily explainable. But of course you weren’t looking for truth, you simply needed someone to belittle to boost your own low self esteem.
@CirclesOffHQ Жыл бұрын
Based on what you just commented, it appears this episode and 99% of sharp betting concepts may go over your head. Best of luck on your journey.
@ChiefsWin31610 ай бұрын
@CirclesOffHQ lol give use your weekly picks. You should fade simon every week since you know so much. Dudes made alot of us money.
@CirclesOffHQ9 ай бұрын
Simon's picks are publicly posted/tracked and he's a losing bettor
@ChiefsWin3169 ай бұрын
@CirclesOffHQ he certainly does not track all of his bets. Checkout the favorites in the action network, they are like 65% win rate.
@odizzle95507 ай бұрын
@@CirclesOffHQ post and track your bets before you shit on someone who does.
@joshackerman28237 ай бұрын
The fact that you just spent your time making fun of a guy who gives out his betting thoughts for free. The Favorites is extremely entertaining which is why most of us bet. The Favorites is a great podcast.
@CirclesOffHQ6 ай бұрын
Nobody is suggesting that you shouldn't listen to things that you find entertaining. Rob and Johnny mostly have issues with content creators who misrepresent themselves.
@Anthony-jq1ny8 ай бұрын
Just because you don’t understand what buying syndicates is?
@My_oh_face6 ай бұрын
This is the guy everyone was talking about!? 😂 I’ve been jumping around episodes so I listened to a future episode before this one. This guy is on Action network all the time, I thought @circlesoff was talking about some KZbin bum. Very interesting. I don’t know what my take is on this, I’ll have to look at the guys w/l record. What I do I have an opinion on is, Action Network as a whole is EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING when it comes to accurate game picks/info. Have you been on the app? I don’t have hard factual numbers but it seems like a majority of their picks are incorrect.
@CirclesOffHQ5 ай бұрын
Whether or not the picks are correct or incorrect isn't really what Rob & Johnny harp on. They are big believers in being authentic and believe that there is an owness on content creators to not misrepresent themselves.
@tammidanks221810 ай бұрын
Simon gives me 5-7 free picks on his podcasts each week. Over 2 years I've listened to his picks publicly win at a 60% or higher rate. U guys should do a public retraction
@chosensports8 ай бұрын
His record is literally in the negative. Why you lying
@bencoglitore62748 ай бұрын
Simon has a 49% win percentage in nfl he’s a losing bettor
@tbewin1z1438 ай бұрын
@@bencoglitore6274This year. He has close to a 60% win percentage in year's past. This year, handicappers are struggling because favorites keep winning and they like to bet underdogs with value.
@CirclesOffHQ8 ай бұрын
As of this moment, he is 525-534-18 for -18.81 units in NFL wagering and this is available for all to see on The Action Network's website. So no, he's not winning at 60%.
@tbewin1z1438 ай бұрын
@@CirclesOffHQ As I have stated in another post, Simon has had a terrible year due to his hesitancy to bet favorites, which I actually complimented you guys for pointing out as a major flaw to his ideology. He was close to 60% of picks given out on his The Favorites podcast with Chad Millman last year.
@Vegagarcia4437 ай бұрын
Haters gunna hate smh Simon is the man
@golfnjokes9 ай бұрын
This is terrible because anybody who knows anything about professional sports betting knows Simon Hunter is one of the best.
@CirclesOffHQ9 ай бұрын
you definitely got jokes
@golfnjokes9 ай бұрын
listen to his weekly pick show and see his record. He does well. You can't deny it.@@CirclesOffHQ
@insight70138 ай бұрын
LOL!!!!
@cato87678 ай бұрын
I bet the 73 year old is a mob guy who’s tied in and doesn’t want it to get to big.
@randyharris31758 ай бұрын
So this guy knew on Monday that Miami minus 13 was the wrong side.😂
@WONANDONESPORTS Жыл бұрын
Explain why its non sense ?
@jimredmile99158 ай бұрын
Why don’t you interview him?
@CirclesOffHQ8 ай бұрын
We did request to interview him at the time but he denied the request.
@scubaseball122 жыл бұрын
Lmao. Do you know What video has the 5k in duffle bags ?
@larrysykes10758 ай бұрын
Simons does his thing.. he is 60% just like the other pros... I just seems to be a miscommunication vs something malicious or with some intent to deceive.
@CirclesOffHQ8 ай бұрын
Pros needing to hit at 60% is not a real thing. The break-even point for NFL spreads at -110 vig is 52.4% but the percentage required to turn profit in the long run really depends on the bettor's average price. Generally speaking, most pro bettors will track their ROI instead of win percentage, as it is largely irrelevant without context.
@anthonyscerbo82748 ай бұрын
Simon tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler. if you knew a lick about gambling you would understand the prestige that comes with a pinnacle sponsorship. You probably still give money to books like pointsbet and ESPNbet. Praying for y’all. This podcast could be life changing for some of you.
@paulleidig60957 ай бұрын
Yep, and 60% is all it takes to make money with ATS -110, Plus ML and Total -110. The best money is made betting MLB underdogs; Plus ML.
@moistoyster57289 ай бұрын
Personally couldn’t care less about Simon’s personal life or whatever else it is you’re all mad about. This is strange. The guy gives out free picks week after week and doesn’t charge anything to do so. Action network picks as a whole are transparent as they can be. Picks cannot be deleted by admin’s and everyone who gives out picks records are tracked. This show is just strange..
@CirclesOffHQ9 ай бұрын
Nobody is disputing that the free picks or the transparency. The main issue that our hosts have are when others misrepresent themselves in the industry. Most people don't know how to decipher truth from non-truth in the space and it creates a dangerous precedent when people are representing themselves as industry experts when they are not.
@funisnumberone17 ай бұрын
@@CirclesOffHQ So this is a Public Service Announcement? Ha, maybe, or maybe YOU'RE DOING IT FOR THE MONEY?
@rodneyproctor55667 ай бұрын
Simon is not a bad on his picks
@bab32938 ай бұрын
62 is Jason kelce
@bencoglitore62748 ай бұрын
Fact: Simon has a losing record in NFL, you can see his record on the action network (down 20 units as of December 23). If you tailed him and made money, congratulations you’ got lucky over a small sample. Rob and Johnny know what they are talking about.
@tbewin1z1438 ай бұрын
the handicappers are down this year because favorites are covering at an astounding rate; in past years, Simon and Chad have well over a 50% hit rate
@paulleidig60957 ай бұрын
@@tbewin1z143 Spot on. I've been a NFL Bet 5 ATS for the past 8 years. I've been following Simon's picks for the last two seasons. Since following Simon, I've finished Top 5. Never finished in the Top 5 prior to following Hunter.
@funisnumberone17 ай бұрын
Is that on ALL picks or his best bets of the week?
@larrygreen97927 ай бұрын
What a reach. I hate that I gave you guys a view. Simon the goat
@Dbales34 Жыл бұрын
This guy is to sports betting as brendan schaub is to comedy
@paulgoblet73938 ай бұрын
Wait a second. Is this Rob the former employee of that pic simulator organization?
@CirclesOffHQ7 ай бұрын
Yes, Rob ran Prediction Machine for a year. He talks about it regularly on the pod.
@jamietaylor591 Жыл бұрын
This aged horribly….he’s currently 49-26 on the season (all documented ) which is a higher winning percentage than you guys have
@thebeasters Жыл бұрын
Even a blind drunk cat can go on a heater, this is about a lifetime of work not one year
@tommcpeek2284 Жыл бұрын
My dog could go 49-26, who cares about a 75 game sample size get off the burner man
@childishgambino3194 Жыл бұрын
If ur dog can pick 70% can i buy his picks?
@tylercroskey246211 ай бұрын
@@tommcpeek2284 so your dog is a pro gambler? Man your dogs net worth must be high.
@jboug2310 ай бұрын
😂😂 Prove it. Put your dog in front of two different bowls of water with team names on them for 75 NFL games and let’s see your dog go 49-26. You’re out of your depth buddy 😂 Nice try, though.
@goattombrady58378 ай бұрын
When simon says he can find a game thats off on a opener and that he knows the public will bet the other side of him and he continous bets against where the line going to build "value" thats all you need to know hes clueless. You may as well be sending your tesla for an oil change 😂
@robertcarter114 Жыл бұрын
Haters gonna hate
@Anthony-jq1ny8 ай бұрын
Syndicate is phrase used in Vegas! For people who can’t bet over a certain amount of Mooney in the books anymore! They bet line moves fading the public! So they are actually betting with the books! They limit you! So runners put the bets in for them!
@anthonyscerbo82748 ай бұрын
Dude. Fading the public isn’t real. You’re simply betting a price. Do you actually know for a fact that when 90% of people are on one side of a game it loses? Or are you just assuming “fade the public” is real off nothing. Just making things up randomly?
@Anthony-jq1ny8 ай бұрын
@@anthonyscerbo8274 ok so your telling me those big Casinos with all the brass. They are letting $95 % On every game! Just because public had 1 good year! That’s what means!!
@tbewin1z1437 ай бұрын
@@anthonyscerbo8274so if the money is all on one side of a game, you don't think any outside forces will influence the game? No referees ever on the take or having money on the game, no corruption in sports where there is corruption everywhere else?
@ecolt05 ай бұрын
fading the public is bullshit
@415_Stand-up7 ай бұрын
Every time simon says i been talking to some pros HE IS FULL OF 💩
@weinerbones18208 ай бұрын
You guys are massively misteprenting what simon is all about. He knows his stuff as a capper. Go look at the faves podcast. Documented on action platform they are 112-73 over the past seasons betting ATS. How can you ignore that?
@anthonyscerbo82748 ай бұрын
Because he also tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler. He’s a fraudulent pick seller who is a good marketer. He makes his dough off convincing people he’s a good gambler, it’s what 99% of “pick sellers” do. None of these guys would be selling gambling picks if they had could click buttons on their computer and make thousands a day. Wouldn’t those picks also be worth thousands if they are GARUNTEED winners? See the fallacy? Simon is one of thousands who sell picks. If you sell your picks, you sell your edge. People who win are EXTREMELY secretive about what their edge is, and especially how they found it.
@jamesbohm36907 ай бұрын
@@anthonyscerbo8274 where does he sell picks? Every week he goes over the entire slate on the podcast and says who he's betting on. I've also heard him say time and again "never, ever buy picks"
@tbewin1z1437 ай бұрын
@@anthonyscerbo8274you post this everywhere, except HE DOES NOT SELL picks
@insight70138 ай бұрын
I wonder how much these Simon Hunter trolls were paid. If you believe Simon Hunter is a professional gambler you got big problems or you're a paid troll LOL!!!! Have a blessed day :)
@delwalton2132Ай бұрын
I'm sorry .. you guys sound like total trolls.... Smh. Parsing, EVERY SINGLE WORD is ridiculous. Just because he keeps betting more as "the number gets better" doesn't mean the previous number was "bad".... I've gotten GOOD NUMBERS and it get EVEN BETTER several times. If I believe in the original number, then, I should REALLY BELIEVE in the better number.... Smh. Basic logic
@CirclesOffHQ23 күн бұрын
It absolutely does mean that the previous number was bad. This is how betting markets work by definition.
@shaunmansion96697 ай бұрын
Do these guys bet nfl at all. The books limit you early in the week so none of the sports groups can put down the amounts they want to eventually have on a game. And this season he was definitely profitable on his free picks he gave out on the show 5 picks each week. And that’s ATS no money lines. And he loves dawgs fr 😂😂😂
@andrewaitkens784811 ай бұрын
This was sooo funny wow
@Anthony-jq1ny8 ай бұрын
They are calling out a guy WHO US GIVING OUT PLAYS FOR FREE!!! if you tail anyone’s bets with out your own info you are going to lose!! But he is giving it FOR FREE! Go after the guys who are charging people and doing the same thing!
@anthonyscerbo82748 ай бұрын
Because he also tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler.
@user-hg6gp3ml6r7 ай бұрын
you guys are such haters its comical. who is he scamming. he gives picks for free. nobody is paying or forced to bet anything. if you dont like him, you dont have to listen to the pods or follow picks lol.
@troytorrence149610 ай бұрын
The reason you only have 100 clients, is because they want to manage the money to control the line. You don’t just put 100K down on a game in 1 bet, but a constant stream of smaller bets
@CirclesOffHQ8 ай бұрын
Why do pro bettors have clients?
@kylesmay86106 ай бұрын
What is going on here? He says he had a losing October.... Doesnt mean he lost more than two weeks. Losing 5 units back to back weeks then winning 1 unit the other weeks is still a losing month. Nothing wrong with his logic there.
@MrPhilbautista8 ай бұрын
This looks to me like a bunch of scrubs trying to tear down an established giver of free picks cos they can't sell theirs.
@anthonyscerbo82748 ай бұрын
Simon tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler. if you knew a lick about gambling you would understand the prestige that comes with a pinnacle sponsorship. You probably still give money to books like pointsbet and ESPNbet. Praying for y’all. This podcast could be life changing for some of you.
@darianhanson70677 ай бұрын
Good job painting yourselves as snobby trash sports bettors.
@recreationalplayer11192 жыл бұрын
He a clown
@OPPOSMITE8 ай бұрын
It's not the same!! The books only take so much money guys! Either you guys have no clue what your talking about (that's a problem) or just flat out haters! Anyone that tries getting likes and a following from bashing someone (even more so when you have no clue what he's talking about ie NO CLUE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT! ) this podcast is making an issue from absolutely nothing! It's impossible to take anything you guys say serious at this point! So what do you guys have to offer? How much is it? What's your picks ROI look like? Spending this much time nitpicking someone else's words literally word for word, only tells me you guys are not very good at sports betting and desperately looking for alternative income streams!
@OPPOSMITE8 ай бұрын
Everything he's saying can actually be proven just from watching Chad Millmen and his (Simon Hunter's) show You can find it on KZbin @ Action Sports Network If you want great picks with proven ROI track record, just give them a watch and let your eyes be the judge
@LABoyko6 ай бұрын
FRAUD ALERT: when they establish different "tiers" based upon their confidence level of a specific play. Real pros are disciplined. They bet the same amount every game.
@ChiefsWin3166 ай бұрын
You really are stupid, pros do not bet the same on every bet... lmfao you really are stupid.
@TommyDavidVerbal8 ай бұрын
Poor poor Simon
@seahawksforlifewhydoihavet68158 ай бұрын
Thank you for exposing Simon he’s a trust fund kid who doesn’t know football at all, he’s a joke in the pro betting community. Doesn’t know any pros at all lol
@julianmayo56507 ай бұрын
Knowing pros has nothing to do with winning bets
@scottramsay16282 жыл бұрын
More tilted by this guys nose than anything else.
@turner02249 ай бұрын
26 minutes of my life I’ll never get back. I like comedy as much as anyone but this is really a stretch …
@mikewilliams35098 ай бұрын
He has bad 2 weeks in a row plenty of times
@larrygrasso60327 ай бұрын
Simon is a millionaire..
@CirclesOffHQ7 ай бұрын
uhh
@plo8887 ай бұрын
I'm a favorites fan and of chad and simon. All i've heard from you guys are nit picking the most minute and least significant piece of the interview and spend 10 mins breaking down ...and aol acct, BRUH!
@plo8887 ай бұрын
You guys just spent 10 mins talking about someone spending 80 vs 85 hours. Every press conference has athletes saying we work 110%, no human can produce more than 100% why arent u guys nit picking athletes and calling them out. You guys are absolute clowns 😂😅
@CirclesOffHQ7 ай бұрын
We don't understand how this is at all relevant. We run a sports betting education channel.
@plo8887 ай бұрын
@@CirclesOffHQ fake news reporting
@zachkirchmann325910 ай бұрын
You guys have the value on the number he explained backwards. Say the Eagles come out as -1 favorites, he gets bets in because he has a strong feeling it will go to -2 and so on. That is the value on the line. The cringe level is watching you 2 nerds bash a bettor who is successful and gives out his picks for free. This clip did not age well for you guys. Should probably delete the video at this point.
@@CirclesOffHQ what’s their faves five record, I’ll wait. Guy literally says that his fans asked him to give a pick on every games spread and total. His actual bets are not representative of his action network profile. You guys are a bunch of wannabe clowns. Hints your viewership 😉
@shawnwines74908 ай бұрын
One point i have to make a successful pro better has no need to make vids and podcasts. Im telling u only like 5 percent of ppl watching this video knows the names of 3 real pro betters. If ur watching it on youtube or anywhere online its a gimmick
@CirclesOffHQ8 ай бұрын
In most cases, this is true. Rob has a unique story in that he started in media before becoming a pro bettor. Without that original origin story, he very likely would be behind the scenes.
@anthonyscerbo82748 ай бұрын
Watch a few episodes before jump8ng to conclusions, these guys are legit.
@aposulli2 жыл бұрын
Savage thumbnail. I don’t agree with discrediting someone in the professional betting space simply because they’re dodgy and occasionally rambling. Even if Simon is nothing more than a middle-man, I do honestly believe he has intel that most bettors wish they had. He doesn’t market himself as a tout. Never. And he’s about as honest as it gets in the betting media business.
@gobsmacked1232 жыл бұрын
I think if he was as honest as it gets in the media business he would be marketing himself as a tout and not a professional bettor.
@aposulli2 жыл бұрын
Given the (understandable) lack of transparency, i think it’s fair to call him one or the other. I don’t think it’s fair to mis-lead BetStamp listeners into believing that Simon’s career is fraudulent
@joelnorris68952 жыл бұрын
What are you even talking about? This dude is a complete fraud lmaooo
@MrJamberee2 жыл бұрын
@@aposulli Sorry, but this guy is a fraud. He claims he is getting info from syndicates he bought out, and he is then selling that info. His story is just ridiculous, fairy tale nonsense. He is just a lousy tout trying to find new clients to sucker.
@WONANDONESPORTS Жыл бұрын
What information
@shawnwines74908 ай бұрын
How do u buy a betting syndicate? What are u buying ? The picks of the syndicate handicappers? In that case ur a client. Maybe ur buying the client list? Well y would these clients trust new ownership that they dont know? The whole buying of syndicates smells funny like gas station tacos funny
@jimrho588 ай бұрын
Smh these 2 are just haters! Follow simons picks and youll win who cares what his credentials are . Does he win?
@CirclesOffHQ8 ай бұрын
No, he doesn't. He has a publicly documented record on Action Network that is down in the NFL over a large sample size.
@anthonyscerbo82748 ай бұрын
Because he also tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler. He’s a fraudulent pick seller who is a good marketer. He makes his dough off convincing people he’s a good gambler, it’s what 99% of “pick sellers” do. None of these guys would be selling gambling picks if they could click buttons on their computer and make thousands a day. Wouldn’t those picks also be worth thousands if they are GARUNTEED winners? See the fallacy? Simon is one of thousands who sell picks. If you sell your picks, you sell your edge. People who win are EXTREMELY secretive about what their edge is, and especially how they found it.
@B_K_1_2 Жыл бұрын
This whole thing is a reach. This is semantics by clout chasers.
@dexterbacchus80098 ай бұрын
Is it Possible that Simon is working for the Books, and he’s out to steer the Joe Public bet for the Books Benefit.
@shawnwines74908 ай бұрын
Yes most of these ppl are
@trizzo51477 ай бұрын
That's exactly what most of these KZbin guys are. Kyle and Andy are the only 2 I know for sure aren't working for books
@stevecarpenter26386 ай бұрын
I don't think they work with them but I think they put out information for the public to bet on and they go the other way not caring about the reputation of their pics.
@DannyGoes_7 ай бұрын
52:11 i trade services, like HJs, for picks
@LABoyko6 ай бұрын
Hunter struggled to provide a clear, straight answer to any question posed. Only reasonable conclusion: he's a grifter.
@ChiefsWin316 Жыл бұрын
Lol this didn't age well.
@arthurfonzarelli9828 Жыл бұрын
None of it made any sense maybe he's using different terminology but you are right he did get the last laugh this particular season as he won at very high levels. The show is a must listen to and though he states some weird opinions on the way he brings it across they are right more than they're wrong and he does know what he's talking about from an advantage standpoint
@tbewin1z14310 ай бұрын
@@arthurfonzarelli9828 His and Chad's podcast are must watches for me
@ChiefsWin31610 ай бұрын
@@arthurfonzarelli9828guess he's getting lucky this season and winning at incredibly high levels again. Definitely over 60% on the season.
@JacocForthe8 ай бұрын
I got excited when I saw this video because I've suspected the same stuff about Simon but you guys are so inept and try to pick on the dumbest points that I actually came away from this with MORE confidence in Simon.
@CirclesOffHQ8 ай бұрын
What were some of the points that you disagreed with?
@christopherscruggs38976 ай бұрын
Very entertaining man hahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahaahhahaahhahaahhahaahhaa
@DMJ1608 ай бұрын
Yes, this simon hunter character weeks ago talked about Leslie Frazier being the Vikings defensive coordinator. I was like...this guy is a total clown and knows nothing. Now, I find this video! Good to see someone calling this idiot out! Says he don't know the NFL that well. He doesn't know the NFL either...his specialty.
@DMJ1607 ай бұрын
@@johnstavrakis9190 lol, embarrassing? Yes, simon should be. One thinng to mispeak, another to be off by 11 years and Frazier was a head coach and not coordinator for the Vikings. Any “professional” sports bettor would know this. You’re bizzarre for even raising your point. Move along now.
@dkelly69696 ай бұрын
This BS just stumbled upon my KZbin feed. All I can say is you guys put your picks over a Season with Simons and see whos swinging the biggest wallet after the superbowl
@tbewin1z1438 ай бұрын
Guys, there are way better targets; you know guys who make people pay for picks and give out half their picks to half the people and the other half to the rest. Those people scam people out of money. Simon gives out picks for free and his record is available to the public. And you are seriously going to tell me that Oregon -9.5 was not a trap line (hint, the public fell for it and the books won big)?
@CirclesOffHQ8 ай бұрын
Yes, because “trap lines” aren’t real. Thanks for your time.
@tbewin1z1438 ай бұрын
@@CirclesOffHQAlso, 1. it's obvious this guy is more than a tout service, he bets on behalf of others; 2. he limits the clients to limit the amount of money he's putting on the bets so the books don't get wise and the number doesn't get affected and 3. he continuously bets against the public on dogs he likes to get more value, literally bets the number he likes which will result in the number moving towards the favorite (from other "wise guys" as well). The only thing you guys were correct to bash him on was his hesitancy to bet favorites. That is why he is having a down year simply because the favorites are covering a lot this year. There was no legitimate reason to have Oregon -9.5 vs undefeated Washington in a conference title game on a neutral field except to sucker the public (and it worked). Same can be said for that O/U of 30 in last nights game. They kept the number frozen at 30 and just watched as the under bets kept rolling in.