Fake Silver Coin How to Tell

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@Devinfrbs
@Devinfrbs 3 жыл бұрын
This physically hurt me to watch you scratch that coin.
@ookapelirekkars6156
@ookapelirekkars6156 2 жыл бұрын
Same!!
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
It’s just silver. I dissolved it to make electrolyte for my silver cell
@wilsonbrothers4183
@wilsonbrothers4183 2 жыл бұрын
Without a thorough test you could be holding junk… it’s a tough one but worth it
@amnobody117
@amnobody117 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. I use weight and specific gravity for coins going in my collection. For some reason they lose value after i file them haha
@amnobody117
@amnobody117 3 жыл бұрын
@Van Provost yeah, i was joking about coins losing value after filing a "trench" in the side of them.
@MrKotBonifacy
@MrKotBonifacy 4 жыл бұрын
5"24 - Argent is French for silver (and also "coin" or "money") - from Latin "argentum", meaning "silver".
@TonyO8187
@TonyO8187 3 жыл бұрын
Hence "Ag"
@Ken_Dalton
@Ken_Dalton 3 жыл бұрын
Correct guys👌
@VV-hd7jy
@VV-hd7jy 2 жыл бұрын
Argent Pur is french for pure silver, at least according to google translate
@MrThe1234guy
@MrThe1234guy 3 жыл бұрын
Those Canada coins have a tremendous premium. Not so much when they first come out but when the bullion dealers are out of stock easily a much higher premium coin and very liquid. Canada has security features built into that coin. I do not recommend anyone shave or damage their coin. This will absolutely ensure you will never get a premium over spot from anu collector. A Sigma analytics precious metal machine is best when in doubt.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
I like the acid test - it never lies. Plus I can fix the coin and get a nice premium price for the silver. One of the advantages of refining your own silver at home.
@gazoo-pl4nx
@gazoo-pl4nx 3 жыл бұрын
you need to invest in a sigma verifier....you just ruined that beautiful coin
@Silvertarian
@Silvertarian 3 жыл бұрын
When you're local jeweler calls you to check some silver's authenticity. That's when you know.
@jakejones7836
@jakejones7836 3 жыл бұрын
If it’s in question then They test it before you can get paid !🤦‍♂️
@holfeightyeight3375
@holfeightyeight3375 3 жыл бұрын
That coin he just destroyed has a lot of security features. DNA maple leaf etched into it and the rays on the face of the coin.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll fix it very soon
@pablomalaga4676
@pablomalaga4676 3 жыл бұрын
But it is not that terrible because he can make the silver shot and sell it 60% higher than cost. Besides he tought as a good lesson, sometimes what looks legit is indeed legit
@bensoncheung2801
@bensoncheung2801 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips My brain still can't fully comprehend that you "fixed" that coin into electrolyte and *poured* *it* . Into a metal bowl in which it will rematerialize into pure silver crystals along with the silver shot.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
I did this to demonstrate, for those who want to try, that this type of silver coin is suitable to make electrolyte for the electrolytic silver cell.
@jesuissebastien
@jesuissebastien 3 жыл бұрын
I’m from Montréal, Canada and « argent pur » simply means « pure silver ». Always interesting to watch your videos! Good job Sreetips!
@jonweinraub
@jonweinraub 2 жыл бұрын
Ag is silver for a reason!
@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor
@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor Жыл бұрын
@@jonweinraub Argent Pur is french for PURE SILVER
@drubradley8821
@drubradley8821 4 жыл бұрын
when I buy on line metals, I mention that I am not buying their metal to keep, and that I am buying it to plate some parts in a higher standard, so, if you have questionable filled metals , that it would not be in their interest to send me that, but do welcome pure metals that may have dinks/dings/scratches, as that is okay, and I have always been handled great, and many are glad to have an avenue to get rid of their "blemished" metals to me, ans some even discount for the blemished or throw in a wee bit extra, for allowing the blemished sale...
@bensoncheung2801
@bensoncheung2801 3 жыл бұрын
Did you take down your videos?
@allansterba9726
@allansterba9726 4 жыл бұрын
Silver futures price has fallen so fast in the last 16 weeks that dealers who bought silver at $18 an ounce months ago are not going to sell it to the public at current spot price of say $12 + their normal premium of $1 to 2. The ask price is going to be spot + $7 to10 premium.
@ShawnStrickland
@ShawnStrickland 4 жыл бұрын
but as soon as the market goes up they increase their prices right fucking quick tho.
@TheLemzia
@TheLemzia 3 жыл бұрын
Because of the Nomenclature, I always get confused between the Ask & Bid price. I always have to look up the definitions, when I'm looking at Spot lol.
@hiddentruth1982
@hiddentruth1982 4 жыл бұрын
one tip I can give as a former buyer and seller on ebay is if they are in china odds are it's fake. they make a lot of fake coins in china using little or no precious metals.
@GlazzedDonut
@GlazzedDonut 4 жыл бұрын
They counterfeit everything there even eggs if you want to see something stupid and disturbing lookup counterfeit eggs
@Hobypyrocom
@Hobypyrocom 4 жыл бұрын
China only buys gold and silver the last few years, i think they even ban exporting any of the silver or gold resources they have. i highly doubt that anyone from China is able to ship such items.
@yuriyvakulenko
@yuriyvakulenko 4 жыл бұрын
I think it is not necessary to damage such nice coin. Silver is unique material. It is virtually impossible to counterfeit it keeping right weight, dimensions and price. In this particular case it would be enough to take weight and dimensions. And then compare to Royal Canadian Mint specifications, available on their web site for this particular product. Gold bullions is completely different story though.
@jerrykingsley6703
@jerrykingsley6703 4 жыл бұрын
@@yuriyvakulenko not true. yes, damaging it may be going too far, but i melt metals, and I have brought fake bars in to my jeweler with real bars to see if he could tell the difference without cutting it in half..
@yuriyvakulenko
@yuriyvakulenko 4 жыл бұрын
@@jerrykingsley6703 there is no other metal with nearly same density as silver. So counterfeit bullion will have different weight or dimensions. Of course it is applicable only for standard products like this RCM Maple Leaf bullion.
@mmneau8563
@mmneau8563 4 жыл бұрын
argent is French for silver
@adventuresinmetals7636
@adventuresinmetals7636 4 жыл бұрын
AG=argent
@UnicaLuce
@UnicaLuce 4 жыл бұрын
Silver = argento in Italian, pretty close
@mmneau8563
@mmneau8563 4 жыл бұрын
@Sora Argentum in Latin
@jwholmes2
@jwholmes2 4 жыл бұрын
L’argent is French for “money” it also means Silver (Ag)
@RyshusMojo1
@RyshusMojo1 4 жыл бұрын
Argent was also a cool band in the '70s
@GrungeGirl314
@GrungeGirl314 3 жыл бұрын
Boy are those futures contracts being exposed now!
@okkrom
@okkrom 3 жыл бұрын
Why not use specific gravity instead of damaging the piece?
@thethiefonthecross9092
@thethiefonthecross9092 3 жыл бұрын
Because he's a dumb dumb lol
@southofhollywood4199
@southofhollywood4199 3 жыл бұрын
I always get ads on Instagram selling one-ounce Silver Eagles for nine bucks! Why aren't those ads removed?
4 жыл бұрын
*DO NOT BUY ANYTHING* even remotely tied to *CHINA!*
@PerryArt420
@PerryArt420 4 жыл бұрын
you would think , by now, everyone would know CHINA IS COMMUNIST AND HATES THE US....... Only Stupid IDIOTS want to deal with China... Check out the video about how Chinese act on Cruise Ship, What a shame. or the chinese parents that beat their kids up and down the street......
@donniebrown2896
@donniebrown2896 4 жыл бұрын
Stay out of Wally Mart then, if you can force them back to the original business model Sam Walton built the business on the China will fail. Buy American, sell American. Good luck on that.
@donniebrown2896
@donniebrown2896 4 жыл бұрын
@Guodlca China has actively and aggressively been buying mining rights all over the planet. Not all rare earth metals are mined in China. The most recent discovery of an extremely large deposit of rare earth ore was made by the Japanese. They and China are fighting over ownership, that's the reason China is in the process of building islands off their coast.
@scp3178
@scp3178 3 жыл бұрын
The first test without damaging the silver (gold) coin / bar is just done by using a strong neodyme magnet. pure silver (gold) is not magnetic at all, but silver (gold) is diamagnetic, which means: by moving the magnet near to pure 9999 silver (gold) you can observe the silver weakly reacting by very tiny movements. try it. it's fascinating. (magnet movements are obligatory for this diamagnetic test!)
@sflotr
@sflotr 4 жыл бұрын
I love Canadian coins. That was hard to watch the file on QE II. Ouch!! Those canucks really beautiful gold & silver pm’s.
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
In the end, in most cases, it’s just silver metal. No extra value for being in perfect condition.
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips Yes, but there are non-destructive tests you can perform first.
@timfenrich5328
@timfenrich5328 4 жыл бұрын
How important it is to explain the divergence of the spot and physical price! Folks new to the market are slow to grasp the importance. I’m with you, precious metals are set for a rise for sure👍
@joshua.snyder
@joshua.snyder 4 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that as gifted as Sreetips is as a refiner, he is not a metals market analyst, nor commodities broker. $100 an oz is nearly double what the all-time peak was and that was a kneejerk abboration in the market based on the unanticipated downgrading of the US credit rating. Don't invest in metals based on lay opinions, and don't get suckered into paying well over spot based on hype. This is a prime time for speculators (I am not saying at all that Sreetips is one!) to manipulate people and create runs, and a lot of hype gets spun in these markets. Just be careful out there folks.
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
You are correct, nor have I ever professed to be. But you don't need anything more than common sense and mathematics to realize that these metals are going higher. Much higher. I'm in the right business, at exactly the right moment in time, with exactly the right instrument. What a ride!
@E-BikingAdventures
@E-BikingAdventures 4 жыл бұрын
A specific gravity test along with the paramagnetic test is definitive. You cannot have any fake silver pass both those test. It's non destructive. I wouldn't guouge my coins like that.
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
I gouge all my coins like that. I've got a whole roll of Morgan Silver dollars that I bought at a yardsale. Each one has the edge "gouged" so I could apply some schwerters to make sure that they were real. For me it's the only way to be sure. The acid don't lie.
@thethiefonthecross9092
@thethiefonthecross9092 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips 🤦‍♂️rip beautiful coins whoever buys them will be the new owner of the Beaver scored coins
@emilee172
@emilee172 3 жыл бұрын
The Pea Shooter on the desk is just a friendly warning that a thief will NOT get a free cup of coffee
@alicerose2683
@alicerose2683 3 жыл бұрын
You made my day
@orange70383
@orange70383 3 жыл бұрын
I like the 2021 Britannia 1 oz coins, they have a small hologram-like security spot.
@Wardcreek
@Wardcreek 2 жыл бұрын
Great job explaining this! I never thought anyone could fake Perth Mint coins
@user-yl6yy2yj3n
@user-yl6yy2yj3n 3 жыл бұрын
Some sellers are sneaky. They like to put a picture of several items inwhich you only recieve 1. Or so called estate sales
@bitbarrel1215
@bitbarrel1215 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info! Keep stacking and don't sell it. Visit the WallStreetSilver reddit and join the silver squeeze.
@lordhumongus8669
@lordhumongus8669 3 жыл бұрын
That 10oz is real nice before you destroyed it. You can tell by different Mints. Argent is Silver in French dummy. You ruined it when you filed it lame. There are plenty of other tests you should use before filing and acid lol.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Well, to me it’s just silver.
@lordhumongus8669
@lordhumongus8669 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips You like losing value then is that what you are saying? That 225 10 ounce Coin is now worth half on resale.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that. I’ll fix it in a future video.
@ianbegg9851
@ianbegg9851 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting this Was brought back up by Google/KZbin as the Silver price is currently going thru the roof, have to be more careful now the scammers will be out and about. Thanks Sreetips loving your work Sir.
@redX111t
@redX111t 3 жыл бұрын
Silver is still really quite cheap... there was a silver (and gold) mania in the late 70s and early 80s and silver hit its all time highs... when you consider the inflation for the last 40 years the price of silver would have been several hundreds of dollars/oz in today's money... so ~27 dollars isn't that much now when the industry demand for silver is getting higher and higher. In 2018 silver price was just ridiculously low
@richardr5878
@richardr5878 3 жыл бұрын
Can this be ping texted? I love info, very valuable and I’m about to do my first refining in a couple weeks. I cringed on the destructive test. What are some other recommended ways to check? I would think a counterfeit that was not overly greedy could drill out a core and fill with tungsten. Take off 3-5 oz and still have it test good.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Weight vs published dimensions should give accurate result.
@chucklotro8749
@chucklotro8749 4 жыл бұрын
Sreetips in your opinion how reliable would a density test be? 10 troy ounces of Silver = 311.035 g density of Silver = 10.49 g/mL V= 311.035/10.49 ~29.65 mL should be displaced
@marcofico1
@marcofico1 4 жыл бұрын
might work, still i wont rely on it
@seadub4944
@seadub4944 4 жыл бұрын
@@marcofico1 It will work, Archimedes figured it out in his bath thousands of years ago now. Works just as good today as then.
@Icriedtoday
@Icriedtoday 3 жыл бұрын
You can test without destroying such a fine coin. If you don’t want to use a X-ray tester then you can do specific gravity.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Probably use weight and dimensions to verify then no filing would be needed. But I prefer schwerters. The acid never lies
@ArizonaAdam
@ArizonaAdam 4 жыл бұрын
Hey sreetips! Didn’t know you served in the NAVY. Thank you for your service! We currently have two daughters serving now. One is on the Nimitz and the other is on the Truman. Great to your support!
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
Good on both of them. The Navy was good to me. And I was good yo the Navy.
@ArizonaAdam
@ArizonaAdam 4 жыл бұрын
sreetips It make me love the channel even more! Again thank you!
@sundaywhiterabbit7679
@sundaywhiterabbit7679 4 жыл бұрын
White Rabbit Dog House. I am an American Girl and I have a lot of real silver listed on EBay. Selling fake silver is illegal and people not only risk being permanently banned from buying and selling on EBay, they can see jail time. Just because it is an E-Store doesn't mean the laws do not apply. Check seller stats. If they are lower than 100% then see what people say about the seller. Many sell cleaned coins or artificially toned coins. Always read the description. If they don't say exactly what it is, you can get completely refunded immediately as an "item not described" if they are counterfeiting, inform EBay about that. Trust me, sellers do not want to be banned from selling there. Find an honest seller, and most are, and stay with them. One love everyone.
@davidwearne2086
@davidwearne2086 3 жыл бұрын
Hate to burst your bubble but silver goes up and down in price and has done for like a 100 years. Holding on to it and hoping that its going to go to like $100 an ounce is crazy. Buy and sell make some money sure but we will all be long dead before it hits $100 an ounce.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what was said about $25 when it was lingering around $14 - that’s amazing.
@usptact
@usptact 3 жыл бұрын
Now file those 0.02oz off to get exactly 10oz :D
@TomokosEnterprize
@TomokosEnterprize 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my, I suppose getting a Sigma machine you are at the mercy of the dealers. I bought a bunch of 10 oz bars from SGB One had been only 90 %!0 % copper as it turned out after made shot and changed the bar they would not stand by their own rules. Flippin low life eh !I can not afford a Sigma machine and do a lot of purchases with them as they are close by but I have video on the whole process showing something was not right Any of that company's higher ups can rot in hell with me looking down at them and pissing on their heads. Every one be else be aware, I hold a grudge ! and treasure my good name !
@_R.Stone_
@_R.Stone_ 3 жыл бұрын
wouldve been cool if u ground the whole coin into dust just to troll the coin collectors 😂 bet the comments wouldve been crazy
@michaelkaliski7651
@michaelkaliski7651 4 жыл бұрын
Filing a genuine coin like that is considered a criminal offence in many countries. In the UK it was known as coin clipping or defacing currency and was a capital offence for several centuries (just a maximum of life imprisonment now). Other methods included shaking coins in a leather bag to obtain flakes of gold which could be recovered and the artificially worn coins passed on. One of the reasons bullion coins have very accurate official weight measurements available and very tight manufacturing tolerances. The milling at the edge of such coins was introduced specifically to detect tampering. The fine surface finish also makes the Canadian Maple a sought after collectors piece. So you have destroyed the coin as a collectors piece, reduced its' value to whatever the spot Silver price happens to be on the day and commited what is considered a capital offence in some jurisdictions, all nicely documented in a video. At least you won't have to worry about travelling anywhere soon with Covid19.
@robin56rf78
@robin56rf78 4 жыл бұрын
It's an ultra common coin, they are billions of them out there so it's not a great loss !
@johnpaul-ww8wt
@johnpaul-ww8wt 2 жыл бұрын
@@robin56rf78 he is right, whether common or not it is actual money and considered currency as it has a face value, therefore a criminal offence in destroying of state-owned currency
@A_Box
@A_Box 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh, what a moronic way to test and destroy the coin.
@annualgiftman9472
@annualgiftman9472 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sreetips, I've really learned a lot from your videos.
@visible2anyoneonyoutube
@visible2anyoneonyoutube 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a 1911 I see?
@stephenlennox6491
@stephenlennox6491 3 жыл бұрын
I am new to this game so can you tell me what silver crystal is and why is it premium. Thanks
@JoelHirtle
@JoelHirtle 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the absolute finest silver you can get. He makes the crystals as part of his refinement process.
@kaynefryday1251
@kaynefryday1251 3 жыл бұрын
One look tells me that coin is beautiful, I feel your pain tho , it is easier to sell 10 one oz than it is 1 ten oz . Ten oz bars or coins are what some stackers call the sweet spot !
@dirtydave1889
@dirtydave1889 4 жыл бұрын
After retiring from the oilfield in 2010....I drove a truck to see the country....picked up a load once....max weight at 47000 lbs......drove and could swear I had a full tall load....got to the Campbells soup factory….guy said break seal and back into door four....I opened the doors to an empty 53 foot trailer....there were 4 small aluminum ingots nailed to the floor!.....Can you make it that dense?......how small can ya make 47000 lbs of aluminum?
@ministryofmetals2462
@ministryofmetals2462 4 жыл бұрын
Umm I dont get it, wat are u saying happened?
@edwinthebirdbee4623
@edwinthebirdbee4623 4 жыл бұрын
Aluminum is 10 cubic inches per pound so 47000 lbs would be 470000 cubic inches
@orionseal117
@orionseal117 4 жыл бұрын
If the ingots were exactly 12 inches by 12 inches you would have needed just 5 sticks in your trailer that ran full length to weigh up to your 21 gross ton capacity.
@michaelkaliski7651
@michaelkaliski7651 4 жыл бұрын
Dirty Dave I'm guessing what you were carrying was tin ingots to coat the cans. Might look like Aluminium (Aluminum) but much heavier and much more valuable.
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkaliski7651 I don't think tin is used to coat the insides of cans anymore - at least in the US.
@kirbytrooper
@kirbytrooper 3 жыл бұрын
i mean....you dont REALLY have to damage the bullion right then and threre. the maple leaf has a really nice proof mark that takes a high high amount of machining to do and cant be replicated with plating. use a loop first before you go gungho into damaging a bullion
@kirbytrooper
@kirbytrooper 3 жыл бұрын
silver ag argent. cmon fellow yank
@isaacgarza3307
@isaacgarza3307 4 жыл бұрын
Can you tell us what seller on ebay you use to buy your nitric acid from.....and what the difference in use between urea and sodium bimetasulfite? Also a little more info on the safety side of refining.....ergo what's kind of gloves to use...eyewear...and so on...thanks...
@johnmclain250
@johnmclain250 3 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid that before silver reaches $100 an ounce, the entire economy will collapse meaning dollars will have no value to compare them with silver. Good news is, silver will still have value for barter.
@Nerdrem1
@Nerdrem1 3 жыл бұрын
Lol that's why it will be $100/oz, because the dollars will be worthless from inflation.
@matthewkizziahcuzia...gott9632
@matthewkizziahcuzia...gott9632 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a rich man by any means. But I would love to have just one good looking crystal. Doesn't have to be a big one. Just to keep on my shelf to look at.
@Hobypyrocom
@Hobypyrocom 4 жыл бұрын
such crystal with a hole would be a great idea to put it on a key chain... Dan Hurd has such video where he visits a company that uses raw gold nuggets to make jewelry, they are awesome...
@keithyinger3326
@keithyinger3326 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hobypyrocom I was thinking the same thing. Maybe encase a single crystal in resin and make a necklace or a pair of earrings.
@ut000bs
@ut000bs 4 жыл бұрын
They're as fragile as they are beautiful. It's hard to keep one whole.
@keithyinger3326
@keithyinger3326 4 жыл бұрын
@@ut000bs thats why i would try encasing one in resin to preserve the structure hopefully.
@Orxenhorf
@Orxenhorf 3 жыл бұрын
If you're going to buy a coin, look up the original mint that made it. That will tell you easily if it's solid or clad. If you're going to file down an edge like that you might as well just melt it down because you're destroying the whatever value it has as a collectible or commemorative.
@justinknash
@justinknash 3 жыл бұрын
For the first three minutes of this video I felt like I was getting put into time-out for not verifying eBay sellers and reading the listing.
@TheLemzia
@TheLemzia 3 жыл бұрын
I've been burned more than once! READ Very carefully and AVOID "German Silver", that is NOT Silver but they will sell it at Spot, when it is actually worth about 1/10th of Spot!!!
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
German silver, aka nickel silver, contains 60% copper, 20% nickel and 20% zinc - zero elemental silver.
@TheLemzia
@TheLemzia 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips Thank you for pointing that out! It is too easy for people to see the word "Silver" and pay Spot+ for it! I wish more KZbinrs that specialize in Silver and especially, Silver bullion, which is what it is usually sold as, did videos about it, Fewer people would get Ripped off. Sadly, unless you buy something, like on Ebay, you can't leave a remark on someone's listing. I know I've Tried many times, hoping that changes, so that I could WARN People!!!
@chucklotro8749
@chucklotro8749 4 жыл бұрын
EBAY is super sketchy, a colleague of mine didn't read the post on some gold coins - the prices were too good to be true - of course they were plated. It was explained waaaaaaaaaaaay deep down in the seller's posting. #watchout
@clarktransport1312
@clarktransport1312 4 жыл бұрын
A quick test for silver uses its diamagnetic qualities, get a small neo magnet and put the coin at about a 45 degree angle. Let the magnet slide down the coin. Real silver will make the magnet slide slowly. Many videos on KZbin about this and I have tried it many times myself. Plated coins don’t slide as slow. Sterling either. Also if you like precious metal there is a precious metal verifier available that tests with electro magnets. Very reliable. Can be pricy but can be found online for around $500.
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
I've never tried any of these tests. I learned from refiners to use the schwerters solution. When I first started refining I would take a small amount of metal and dissolve it then cement the silver on copper. That was my test to see if it was real. Then Harold_V on the goldrefiningforum.com told me to stop doing that and get some schwerters. Been using it ever since.
@davidgatzke8337
@davidgatzke8337 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to file are take it out of the case If you have a sigma metalytics precious metal verifier it can test through the plastic
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! I’ve never heard of one of thise
@davidgatzke8337
@davidgatzke8337 3 жыл бұрын
There about $1500. To $2000. New
@OleGeezerCirca1941
@OleGeezerCirca1941 4 жыл бұрын
Generally the density of brass is 8.4 to 8.73 g/cm3.. The density of silver is 10.5 g/cm3. Why ruin the numismatic value of this coin like you did when all you had to do was weigh it, and using water displacement determine the volume? You could have also determine the volume using the measurements of radius and thickness since the coin is a thin cylinder. The volume of a cylinder is given by the formula V = πr2h, and π is about the equivalent of 22/7 or 3.14. Make sure you have accurate measurements. Then take the density of the object X the volume to get a weight to see if it is brass or silver.
@karl6852
@karl6852 3 жыл бұрын
I used this density determination example in story problem, for a chemistry class that I was TAing for, back in 1986. I was trying to make it a real world applicable scenario.
@MikeJones-tx6iu
@MikeJones-tx6iu 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I was led to believe that you could use some type of magnet device & or machine to determine the authenticity 🤔 ?!?
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the acid test - it never lies
@sanpedrosilver
@sanpedrosilver 4 жыл бұрын
Liberty coin is solid. Tons of great, reputable dealers on eBay. I don’t use eBay anymore because of the tax that’s been added to all bullion sales. Best is to buy from private sellers. Subbed
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
I've delt with them for years.
@nickandyou1470
@nickandyou1470 Жыл бұрын
@@sreetips i don't find them
@nickandyou1470
@nickandyou1470 Жыл бұрын
I don't find them , are they still here
@sanpedrosilver
@sanpedrosilver Жыл бұрын
@@nickandyou1470 Here? Long Beach, CA
@nickandyou1470
@nickandyou1470 Жыл бұрын
here on ebay
@OffGridOverLander
@OffGridOverLander 4 жыл бұрын
Why not melt the silver crystal down to bars to reduce space taken and reduce surface area exposed that tarnishes?? Is there a specific reason?
@Lobennett52
@Lobennett52 4 жыл бұрын
Power 2 Weight pure silver does not tarnish....
@Lobennett52
@Lobennett52 4 жыл бұрын
Power 2 Weight so sorry..
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
@Power 2 WeightAssuming everyone walks around with a weight scale.
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lobennett52 It certainly does.
@suze6of6
@suze6of6 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Thank you for your service!
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@robertclark9
@robertclark9 9 ай бұрын
No matter how much I’d like to sometimes, I just can’t buy metals on eBay. I have a reputable dealer that lives about an hour from me, and honestly, his premiums are just slightly over the JM, SD, on line stuff anyway. Plus it’s like a barber shop. You can get the skinny on a lotta what’s goin on from hanging around a bit. 😂😂😂😂
@timothydean
@timothydean 3 жыл бұрын
Man I would like to get some silver Crystal
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Timothy, I’ll list some more on my eBay store user name: sreetips
@skyespoon8487
@skyespoon8487 2 жыл бұрын
Good way to help silver fans protect them selves, I saw so many different types of fakes on Alibaba, even APMEX assay bars in yep. With APMEX stamped on the coin/bar ,999. 1 Troy oz gold "plated bar" identical to the real deal.. What kind of people do that, "crooked people". Thanks for the insight.
@maplestacker3065
@maplestacker3065 4 жыл бұрын
Argent pur means pure silver in french argent is silver. Super nice coin wish i had one....
@musicmike1960
@musicmike1960 3 жыл бұрын
Even if it was $15 per ounce the RED flags would have been waving BIG time, but $15 total?...Silly people buying with no idea of the fake world, silly...Sadly filing the edge of that beautiful coin was hard to watch...
@briankennedy9421
@briankennedy9421 Жыл бұрын
Do you trust the specific gravity test instead of damaging the coinage with acid and file?
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
No, I’ve never tried it
@fugoogle5802
@fugoogle5802 3 жыл бұрын
Feedback means nothing. Got fake eagles from a guy with 100% and the other people left good feedback, so all of those people are not into silver and know the difference. I got my money back and they still shipped the fake eagles. I sent 1 to the secret service 1 to my lcs 1 to newsmax and the others I’ll hold to shoot at when I go to the out door range . The sigma machine said they were 925 sterling lol 😂 but we know that a coating, they aren’t giving you any silver .
@Belleville197
@Belleville197 3 жыл бұрын
So this guy has been dealing, testing, and refining precious metals for at LEAST ten years, and he doesn't know what 'argent' means?!?! How?!?! Was that a joke? And why would you ruin a numismatic coin like that?
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
It’s just silver to me. I’ll fix it in a future video.
@Tomas-Dj
@Tomas-Dj 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips you're going to fix the coin? If so i like to see that. Good job sreetips. If i only could buy some gold, that would be nice.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
I “fixed” it in a later video. I dissolved it in nitric then used it for electrolyte in my electrolytic silver cell.
@Kickstar.
@Kickstar. 4 жыл бұрын
$100/ounce for Silver? NEVER. And dealers definitely use spot price to buy YOUR SILVER.
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
KickStar Coins n Comics these are just my opinions. They won’t be buying my silver for spot because I’m not selling any of my silver.
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
Worse, they typically pay less than spot - they turn around and sell them for a premium over spot.
@njanderson4342
@njanderson4342 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the invaluable knowledge.
@orange70383
@orange70383 3 жыл бұрын
The Canadian 1 oz .9999 silver coin is another great coin with security features. They also offer an ultra pure 1 oz .99999 gold coin.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
They made a giant five nines gold coin in a KZbin video - fascinating
@kyzercube
@kyzercube 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame you gotta blemish the coin to prove its' ... metal. It wouldn't surprise me if you get a lot of screeching comments about that 🤣
@fredericodal1278
@fredericodal1278 2 жыл бұрын
it's false that people don't take delivery on futures on silver. The market guarantees delivery if that contract is deliverable
@proslice56
@proslice56 3 жыл бұрын
All you had to do before destroying the coin was weigh it. fake coins will always be lighter than 31.1 troy! What a waste!
@Christophersanchez1326
@Christophersanchez1326 3 жыл бұрын
That's now considered a used coin.😅
@fayezalhashem8771
@fayezalhashem8771 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great advice
@trackpackgt877
@trackpackgt877 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always but it was so hard to watch you file that coin it looked legit to me even though it was a 10 oz I've handled so many Eagles and Maple Leafs I can tell by the look and feel if they're legit but now there's so many better ways to test silver than a destructive test my local coin shop has an x-ray machine they will test anything for me even if I didn't get it with them because I have a good relationship with them precious metal verifier I believe it's called as much as you work with precious metal it would probably be a good investment for you. Good video
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
XRF - it only goes so deep. So a thick coating over copper or brass can fool it. I’ve researched the XRF. It was $1500 per week or $4500 per month to rent one. Plus a visit from local officials to ensure it’s going to be used properly. The device emits radiation.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
I fixed the coin n a later video. I dissolved it in nitric acid for electrolyte for my silver cell
@trackpackgt877
@trackpackgt877 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips I'll definitely have to check that video out and yeah for an xrf machine that's ridiculous I know u can get those Sigma verifiers for a couple hundred but they don't tell you what in it they just verify that it's real great videos buddy
@rengokuwon1999
@rengokuwon1999 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for informing us
@3rdworldtrillionaire46
@3rdworldtrillionaire46 3 жыл бұрын
Nice coin, let's go ahead and destroy it.
@lordhumongus8669
@lordhumongus8669 3 жыл бұрын
What an Idiot this guy is lol.
@robertoh.20
@robertoh.20 3 жыл бұрын
yea such a fool
@gmdaddyrocks7730
@gmdaddyrocks7730 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah nice way to ruin a nice coin. if your that big into refining, invest a few bucks and go electronic.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
I will fix it in a future video
@thethiefonthecross9092
@thethiefonthecross9092 3 жыл бұрын
I paid 600 bucks for a precious metal verifier Sigma. it's the new ages LOL
@nathanlewis5682
@nathanlewis5682 3 жыл бұрын
I buy silver from a jewelery supplier company. In casting grain form. I intend to melt it down to liquid form to pour into casting moulds like to make a 💍 or pendant.
@timhull8664
@timhull8664 4 жыл бұрын
Do you ever use the density and volumetric displacement as an aid to determine if its silver.
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
No, because I don't know how.
@abelaze
@abelaze 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGTYlGuamJqembc
@abelaze
@abelaze 4 жыл бұрын
You can use a plastic strip for holding the coin in the water. With this method I could find out, that the base metal of my fake is made of zinc.
@dimwittflathead639
@dimwittflathead639 3 жыл бұрын
Would you show us refining integrated circuits? I'd like to know how to grind them into powder, extract copper, tin, silver, and gold. The rest is landfill because no more metals in the powder.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I’ve worked with some escrap. Trimmed circuit card fingers and pentium pro CPUs. These are among the highest yielding of all computer scrap. That’s why I chose them. I’ve never tried IC material. It’s messy, low yielding and produces lots of waste that must be treated before disposal. For these reasons, I don’t refine much escrap anymore.
@Hartcore11
@Hartcore11 4 жыл бұрын
I buy from Golden Eagle Coins. Two orders so far so good.
@jackbacic868
@jackbacic868 4 жыл бұрын
a quick way to tell silver is to run a magnet across it there will be a drag then its silver no marking and quick.
@Avalanche2
@Avalanche2 4 жыл бұрын
Local coin shops (if they have any left) are the best places to buy silver right now. My LCS is $2-3 over spot for Silver. I paid 1.75 over spot for a 100oz bar.
@coffeeonkeyboard1810
@coffeeonkeyboard1810 4 жыл бұрын
one of the coolest channels on YT.
@marlonparsons634
@marlonparsons634 4 жыл бұрын
Lol anyone see his gun on the table with the coin
@hschultz123
@hschultz123 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the informative video. Please be careful when investing in precious metals.
@MrThe1234guy
@MrThe1234guy Жыл бұрын
Be careful when saving American dollars. Turns out they lost half their purchasing power and just a few short years... The $15 silver I purchased in 2018 Fortunately retained all of its purchasing power.
@Sammeeee
@Sammeeee 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Omega Constellation!
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
My wife got it for $300 at a yard sale - she is awesome!
@Jkauppa
@Jkauppa 4 жыл бұрын
if you want to be completely sure, a sample might not be representative of the whole
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, thieves are very good at finding new ways to cheat people. The only way to be absolutley sure is to refine that metal yourself.
@TomokosEnterprize
@TomokosEnterprize 4 жыл бұрын
WooHoo on the new project my friend !Onward eh. I will email you tomorrow with an update. I will be a pumpkin right shortly, LOL !
@chancho00
@chancho00 4 жыл бұрын
There could be another way for scammers after this video, they could put the middle core in junk instead of going til the edges in order to avoid this method, one way to really know if you been scammed is to use X rays layered scanning but that would be expensive i think.
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
That would be hard to do for the few ounces of silver. But when it gets up around $100 then the scammers will come out of the woodwork.
@ramonortiz7462
@ramonortiz7462 3 жыл бұрын
Did you mean liberty coin 100% feedback on Ebay? If so thanks. I found them. $100 oz for silver? I truly hope so!!
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Mathematical certainty
@kenmastersmaster
@kenmastersmaster 3 жыл бұрын
How do you know when you've filled deep enough. The only safe way is to cut it in half
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
I can tell by the way that the file feels as it cuts into the metal
@marcuspete3463
@marcuspete3463 3 жыл бұрын
Argent means Argentina. Don't buy from Ebay. Go to Apmex, JD Bullion ,Money metals and Sunshine Minting.
@samroxeva
@samroxeva 3 жыл бұрын
$200 for 10 Ozs...those were the days 😪😪😪😪😪😪
@tuoppi42
@tuoppi42 3 жыл бұрын
Non-destructive testing by measuring the density is somewhat realiable, but not 100% - remembering the tungsten filled gold bars from China.. Thinking about how to measure the density of a coin sized object - it would take some glassware, but making a (small) pool that has a thin overflow channel into a separate container might be precise enough to give pretty close overflow of same volume as the object being measured is (touch of soap to break surface tension?). Weigh the overflow and calculate the volume from there, then weigh the object and see if the density lands where it should be.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
The weights and measures should be available to verify this coin. But I prefer the acid test. However, the only way to be absolutely sure is to refine the metal in that coin yourself - watch for the video.
@charleswise5570
@charleswise5570 4 жыл бұрын
Can using a water displacement test be useful? I remember doing something like it back in Chemistry class. Looking forward to your explanation! Thanks in advance!
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 4 жыл бұрын
It is called a specific gravity test. Yes, it is useful, but a bit cumbersome. Most fakes can be detected by simply measuring the dimensions and weight - then comparing those to a known genuine specimen. A large percentage of the fake coins can be detected by weight alone.
@Steelythestacker
@Steelythestacker 4 ай бұрын
I just found a fake sterling ring tonight. It had a very thin plating of silver and was a yellow metal underneath.
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 ай бұрын
Marked 925? In my experience, about 5% of 925 jewelry is silver plated over brass or copper. I remember when I first started fourteen years ago, I had a real heavy chain bracelet about a hundred grams. But when I threw it in the melt dish it didn’t want to melt. So I pulled it out and sure enough it was copper. Made a believer out of me. From then on I test each piece with schwerters solution (potassium dichromate dissolved in dilute nitric) before i commit any silver for refining.
@stevenrowlandson4258
@stevenrowlandson4258 4 жыл бұрын
$100 per ounce is not enough. World debt divided by real ounces of silver bullion and coin might be enough. One has to remember that the Hunt brothers were only after $200 an ounce in 1980. So 100 or 200 USD per ounce is out of date.
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 жыл бұрын
Check usdebtclock.org there are about $1000 in circulation for ever ounce of silver in existence above the ground. And that's getting ready to jump now that they are printing more money to bail everybody out. $250 silver seems more likely than ever. Too bad, we used to have the best system in the world.
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