The Sims 4 Has a DOXXING PROBLEM...

In today's Speed Build Saturday, we talk about some Sims news regarding Turbodriver and the horrible response from the community.
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[@ihminen329]

WHO THE HELL PUTS SOMEONE IN POSSIBLE PHYSICAL DANGER BY LEAKING THEIR ADDRESS JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SEE THEIRS SIMS FUCK FOR ONE WEEK!?!?

[@bluespectre8550]

People that have a raging porn addiction, has no concept of personal boundaries or patience, and who haven't gone outside to touch grass since before the pandemic.

[@arcanine_enjoyer]

The funniest part is that the mod didn't even take too long to update so they had a temper tantrum for no reason

[@rdr2219]

That's so wild.......I can't wrap my head around it

[@rdr2219]

​@@bluespectre8550but then they can just watch actual "corn" no? I don't understand the thought behind it

[@myyyles]

@@bluespectre8550Facty, facts fact facty fact. Fucking Christ people.

[@SageArdor]

Doxxing is karen behavior. Change my mind.

[@NyxFvnnx]

And criminal behavior

[@RexxMcqueen]

@@NyxFvnnx that for sure

[@MP-nz1kd]

Don't Karens only dox the managers?

[@silly_bones6239]

Don’t need to change your mind. I second this.

[@A.C.T1997]

I can't, you are completely right. Doxxing is never an acceptable answer. I don't care what the person does, the fact that you were able to doxx the person tells me what type of person you are.

[@zoorenard1101]

This is why many people are ashamed to say they are Simmers. Doxing somebody who did SO MUCH for the community because of an update??? What if the guy says SCREW THIS and never upload again??! I hope for the doxxer sake this doesnt go out of hands. If he leaves forever, blood will have to be shed. Very stupid move.

[@ReginaTrans_]

dude I play like once a month at much, people who dox must play every single day of their lives, I dont want to be grouped with that bunch of people, its like being gay or trans and having to be grouped with a bunch of people who think trans women are women, which I dont think its true, but I have to be labeled with them, its so annoying

[@Weewoo988]

Wait what

[@zoorenard1101]

@@ReginaTrans_ Imagine doxxing somebody because WickedWhims is down for a couple of days? Of course that player is insane, but just like being a lib, con, or trans.... You only need a few bad apples to make all of us look bad

[@zoorenard1101]

@@Weewoo988 Stop reading the comments first and watch the video 😂

[@mabsie2249]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@ReginaTrans_”… trans women are women, which I dont [sic] think its [sic] true” pardon??????

[@patsibanyoni1231]

Honestly doxxing someone over a sex mod because you're sexually frustrated is really demented and sad.

[@SuperSimmerGal]

That sounds like an awfully big assumption to make. The doxxing was wrong, no doubt about that, but we know nothing about those who did it or exactly why they did it. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they actually don't give a flip about the mod and did it simply because that's how they get their kicks. Again, not defending their actions in any way, shape or form. I just think we need to stop being so quick to label people we've never even met.

[@imanightmare3017]

And pathetic

[@just_a_silly_weenie008]

Agreed - just wait and the mod would've been worked on

[@lukevanwyngaardt6584]

Doxxing a Modder that makes a super spicy mod is not the way besties. The Doxxers, I think, are definitely enjoying way too much corn and need to take a step back.

[@ReginaTrans_]

I cant comprehend who did that, I would think only a mentally unstable person needs to see virtual people having corn, but if that person knows how to dox, then its not a mentally unstable person, is it??? what a dark place to be if you need that mod everyday!!!!! I love the sims and I do have that mod but I can care less, sometimes I got months without playing the sims, why would you need that so bad??? even if youre a regular player, you can wait 2 weeks for an update, at one point I played sims regularly and one time I had to delete whicked whims for 2 months and I was fine without it, I just dont get why would you need it so bad?

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

@@ReginaTrans_you act like a person can’t be mentally unstable and intelligent. Those things can co-exist.

[@justanautisticnerd8969]

​@@ReginaTrans_ you can be mentally unstable and be able to dox people. I dont think it really negates what they did. Even if they have an addiction its still some drastic measures to take.

[@ReginaTrans_]

@@justanautisticnerd8969 not even drastic, thats plain ill !!!!!

[@justanautisticnerd8969]

@@ReginaTrans_ it really is. I am maybe chronically online h*rny wierdo who doesnt touch grass... but even j can tell that this is fucked. At this point just learn to draw and do it yourself. You don't know what's going to happend. Next day the mod just go poof out of existence. So like. Just make your own corn. Idk.

[@gothicavictoria1341]

Imagine ending up in court to defend yourself, and you have to look at judge, the jury, and your attorney and explain why you doxed someone because you couldn't watch a bunch of pixels knocking boots...smh

[@KyrstOak]

If I was the mod creator, I would 100% delete the entire mod off the internet only updating it for myself and let everyone know as revenge.

[@JillieBean5]

BRO! I agree! I literally am so surprised no one else has this opinion. I’d be so stubborn and treat the community like toddlers. “Oh? You doxxed me because I took a vacay??? Now you don’t get it at all!!”

[@Astro.Period]

REAL

[@InvaderTee]

@@JillieBean5 They were all over twitter when it first happened

[@veenus_ow]

i'd put it behind a paywall on patreon like others have done. fk them kids, lol

[@loptseldr]

I agree.

[@Stitchlover96]

As someone who absolutely loves WW for the realism it adds to my game, I was in utter disbelief and disgusted the community around that mod behaved like this because it wasn’t updated right away. Modders are people with lives and are allowed to take vacation if they want to, they do not exist to please other people. The funny thing is, the mod still worked even though it was “broken”, like sure, the attraction system didn’t work, but the animations and attributes were functioning as they normally did. The only thing I got from using the broken version was one singular LE upon loading my household, that I could then ignore for the rest of the time. I was always using the free version of the mod, but after seeing how nasty people were, I decided I was gonna support Turbo through Patreon and I’m actually so glad I did.

[@hauntedshadowslegacy2826]

Let's get something clear. It wasn't 'the community around that mod'. It was a handful of out-of-touch crybabies who behaved like that. As evidenced by you and me and literally tens of thousands of others. We, the community of that mod, had no problems waiting. The crybabies can be kicked out of the community since they don't behave in accordance with the type of behavior the rest of us expect.

[@SaraLilyRose]

Seriously, I've been playing the Sims since 2000, and I've never seen such a shitshow in the community before. The entitlement of some people, seriously ! I can't believe they'd go that far to see their Sims do corn 🤣🤣 Then they whine "But that's the only mod I use !!!!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭" Who the heck cares 🤣

[@melkvv]

agree as someone whos been playing ts4 since like a month after release, its so weird and borderline corn addiction

[@kristen6885]

If the mod matters so much to people where they are willing to go as far as dox someone, they need to go outside and touch grass, look at the sky for a little while and not spend all their time online

[@magi-chanspec4760]

​@@kristen6885 touching Grass is an understatement. They need to roll in Grass for atleast an Hour

[@ReginaTrans_]

lmao, I like whicked whims but I remember one time I couldn't update it and I played without it for months, imagine needing that mod everyday on your screen, its a scary place to be that person honestly, at that point get a real boyfriend, go to the mall, go watch real clouds and stargaze cause honey youre living inside a videogame if you need specifically that update so bad LMAO

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

@@kristen6885If the mod matters that much you moght be lacking wicked whims IRL 😂

[@TheFemininomenon]

If you can't play vanilla sims and wait for a little while for the wicked whims update, and decide to harass and dox a creator that doesn't own you anything, there's something really really wrong with you. I'd have let them all summer without an update.

[@AnyFlowers.]

Not even just play vanilla. The doxxer needs to get other hobbies besides playing video games and corn because something is rotting their brain to the core.

[@elfkitty1105]

FACTS!

[@rogerdogger6969]

I would rather see them blocked forever

[@erikkennedy8725]

I loved playing vanilla Sims with Lovestruck while waiting for all the mods to update. It was such a change of pace.

[@Paprikahu]

It reminds me of my cousin being so mad at a video game the uncle took internet and pc away

[@clarahartzen]

Omg how dare someone take time for themselves and go on a vacation But seriously it’s people like this (yk the ones that get pissed and doxx someone over it) that destroys my faith in humanity 🙄🫠 I hope Turbo’s okay :/

[@djtrac3r935]

Me too, honestly I wouldn't be mad if he just stopped updating the mod next time a patch rolls around. Considering the reaction people had to him being on vacation, I would've taken the mod down entirely and told everyone to go F themselves.

[@escsimslover9725]

As someone with a 'lowkey' sims addiction and who is chronically online... The doxxers need to go outside and touch grass!!! Thanks for coming to my TedTalk. Seriously though I hope Turbodriver is doing okay :o And thank you for feeding us, fakegamergirl!

[@LadyEvalle]

If I was Turbodriver, I would have taken the mod down tbh....

[@tripleabattery2914]

I've said it before elsewhere, I would've "updated" it with malware and then permanently log off. like don't piss me off, especially over something so stupid

[@flyingbananas]

Wicked Whims has been a collaboration with many many modders, I bet that's why it's still up

[@yasminchan7425]

On one hand I don't think that would be fair to everyone else but on the other hand I'd say that's just the consequences people will face for being dumbnuggets

[@MhiaLee19]

@@yasminchan7425fair? It’s a mod for a game.. something has to be done about people’s behavior over a GAME!! Not fair that he got doxxed.. I would show my ass and leave the situation and never mod again.. forget the “sim community”, what about people in real life..

[@ReginaTrans_]

as much as I like whicked whims im with u, I would have deleted it and I dont mind if he ever deletes it, I wont be a part of a group who doxes and im willing to stop playing if things like this start happening, im not willing to be a part of them !!!!! thats horrible and disrespectful, reminds me when I detransitioned, I still dress up like girl sometimes but most of the time I dress like a guy because of all this new craze of straight men becoming trans to play in sports with women and using their bathrooms for a fetish, dude I wont be a part of that, I decided to detransition and dress like a guy again, simple, never forget that if the boat isnt cool anymore you should jump out of it

[@KotLC_Bookworm]

Every time I download a mod, I wish there was a way I could thank them (other than paying cause I’m broke) so I find it absolutely absurd. Looking at a single line of code hurts my head much less re-coding a whole mod for free

[@tripleabattery2914]

this, so much! trying to code the smallest thing needs a lot of know-how and patience, so imagine a whole complicated mod like ww. I dare the sims community to try to mod ANYTHING before they go bitching and moaning about shit not being updated

[@inferno9218]

There's a system like this on Nexus. You can "Endorse" mods on there, which basically helps them get more traction and such.

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

And its like a multistep process too, they have to see whats different in the EA code that might affect their mods, redo the mods affected and test it to see if its now performing as reprogramed. Its not a quick ‘boop boop, updated’

[@rainforest2731]

Bro how embarrassing, doxxing someone over a mod that makes woohoo explicit?? The doxxer definitely has a corn addiction 😭😭😭 Tf is wrong with people

[@foxcollias4444]

The story fake gamer girl was sharing: ☠️🔪🖤💔 The house she was building: ✨🌸🌹🍁🐣🧶👒💕

[@magita1991]

So true

[@jelestra]

When I realized Turbo had updated the mod, my reaction was "They are a far, FAR better person than I am"

[@emmyn9574]

I hadn't heard about this, poor Turbo. Some people are so entitled now. Its like when someone writes Fanfic and some people harass them to write faster. Its like WTF, you're getting it for free, have some manners. :(

[@Sasiwamcwabn]

“Thank you for feeding us, fakegamergirl!” *we all say in unison.*

[@mushroomgirl7444]

Thank you for feeding us fakegamergirl!

[@codaow2874]

Thank you for feeding us, fakegamergirl!

[@Pizzaferretsissuperswag]

Thank you for feeding us,fakegamergirl!

[@allie_gator]

Thank you for feeding us, fakegamergirl!

[@Vipergsg9]

Thank you for feeding us fakegamergirl!

[@onygenre]

Doxxing is such a horrible thing to do. Its so dangerous for the person being doxxed. I hope Turbo is alright!

[@djtrac3r935]

Its illegal, because the doxxer's did this with the intention to intimidate/threaten him into responding.

[@KnitsFromTheVoid]

My first thought was indeed that if I were this creator I would just announce that thanks to the doxxer nobody will use those mods ever again.

[@theredqueenster]

yeah and then dox the doxxer, that would teach all the bullies

[@nikigerrier777]

I've been in communities where this has happened. Not always because of doxxing, but the community overstepped boundaries and were told to pound salt.

[@SuperSimmerGal]

​@@theredqueensterThat would make him no better than the doxxers. It honestly scares me how many people think the answer to bullying is to bully the bully back. All that does is exacerbate/perpetuate the behavior. We need to be spreading love, not hate.

[@SuperSimmerGal]

​@@theredqueensterThat would make him no better than the doxxers. It honestly scares me how many people think the answer to bullying is to bully the bully back. All that does is exacerbate/perpetuate the behavior. We need to be spreading love, not hate.

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

I make cc for sims 3 and. Its not coding but I make meshes. And its not just meshing. Its meshing, making sure its game compatible, uv mapping. Texturing. Then testing it. And fine tuning. And its A LOT OF WORK Yea I dont think making people pay for it is good. But people need to understand it takes work. And turbodriver clearly loves the mod and takes pride it in. Its not a rushed job!

[@SuperSimmerGal]

He isn't making anyone pay for it, though. The mod can be downloaded for free, donating is completely optional. Yes, you can get it slightly sooner than the general public that way, but at the end of the day it's still entirely your choice.

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

@@SuperSimmerGal I dont mean Turbo's mods specifically. I am talking about cc in the sims community in general.

[@Ryokomo]

My Wicked Whims worked just fine when we had the update, I didn't even notice if anything was wrong.

[@onidaaitsubasa4177]

It doesn't help that EA has had like 6 game patches in a row, the modders must be going crazy trying to keep their mods working with an emergency patch happening everyday.

[@NostalgiaUnicorn]

The day Lovestruck dropped, someone in the official server threatened self harm over mods not being updated and said they'd need to go to a mental hospital if their game didn't work soon. They kept saying they were going to check themselves in then would come back in a few hours asking if it was updated yet. All day, I was telling people the game was broken due to their mods. You'd think it was common knowledge all updates break mods - well it's not.

[@racconoy]

I'm actually really grateful that you talked about this. Doxxing is so wild to me, especially over a mod? Like god damn if you like watching pixels getting it on, there are many great 3D animators out there.

[@aribellex]

Imaging paying a company over $1K in packs just for them to constantly screw up the game with updates and then blame the people who put in free work to make the game more enjoyable

[@blue_twitch___5371]

doxxing is chroniclly online behavior

[@Cosmic-Clod]

A lovely cottagecore build was needed to cleanse our pallet as we heard this debauchery unfold.

[@AKASunWukong]

I cant imagine how terrifying it is to be the person who made WW. You need to Update Your mods in less than a week or you’ll get doxxed, you cant really leave because you’d logically just get doxxed again by People who are angry at you for even thinking you could possibly leave, you have to stop Your vacation to get a virtual mod for a game you dont even work on or get paid to make just so you dont get doxxed.

[@katchibediako7036]

When you're right, you're right. I tried to tell them, but they were like, "stfu, bih! It's my game and I want it now!" In the meantime, I wish you put Sims in your montage. It always feels like I'm creeping around someone's home while they are away.

[@kayaikinci9855]

Yeah, she should use these thumbnails sims I love them

[@tiredveryissage]

even if turbodrivers patreons *were* entitled to ask for the update quicker because they pay, turbodriver is still on vacation? like,, paid vacation days exist. hypothetically, if the patrons were turbodrivers "boss/employer", theyd still be able to have days off. not to mention they probably get paid less than any other job bc they rely on those patrons to donate. some people expect so much from others, forgetting that they are *people*, with their own lives outside of whatever theyre doing/making for oftentimes little reward. i dont personally use wicked/wonderful whims but i hope turbodriver stays safe and is able to relax after all this

[@indmur]

The funniest(?) part is updates don't HAVE to break your personal game. Turn off auto updates and go into offline mode each time you want to play, the game will still work, and you can wait in peace while all the mods updates. And if you don't use the gallery the experience won't be different at all. So all this for literally nothing.

[@Blucharls]

I genuinely hope that the person who doxxed Turbo NEVER gets access to their mod. Ever again. As you so aptly put it, "That's called a fucking consequence!" Love the build and so sorry to hear you've been harassed. Take care x

[@JillieBean5]

Okay if I was Turbodriver, and I got doxxed over something THIS FUCKING STUPID. I would end my patreon, never update a mod again, and move on. I’m that fucking petty I would NEVER give them wonderful whims back

[@SecretKeeperForever9]

I'm so heartbroken for this family. He is a whole freaking family with children. They put his entire family in danger of being harmed by people will ill-intentions. They literally robbed them of the sense of security. Honestly he should hire someone to track down who it was and press charges. People need to start pressing harassment charges for this. Platforms need to create a way to block people from YT channels and access the victim's patron.There is not enough laws in place to probably press charges, but there needs to be consequences for actions.

[@sheelahsheesh6148]

You know thw situation's bad when she doesn't sidetrack even once from the subject

[@achungokegode6514]

I have a schedule. Whenever the Sims 4 updates the game will be broken. So I give it a month for litterally everything to catch up. It's stupid that people are so petty over a mod.

[@EienKiseki]

I didn't even know today was saturday, thanks.

[@nobbyfirefly57]

I have so many mods that it’s entirely possible I may have a few outdated ones I forgot are installed, especially fixes for bugs I forgot about. Also doxxing them is stupid, now they have to spend more time not updating the mod while they move house with their “loads of money from patreon” or something.

[@omalahboo3163]

Omg that tiny staircase is claustrophobia inducing. I love it. It's giving Flowers in the Attic.

[@Neosouljamzofmine]

Omg yes

[@skibidiedgerizz06]

I agree lol, if not leaving forever I wouldve atleast didn't update til the next patch as a form of punishment

[@dr.sharktooth3587]

I didn’t hear about this, but wow. Just...yikes. Thank you for addressing the doxing, entitlement, reprehensible behavior, and lack of consequences for said behavior. If I was the mod creator, I would never release another mod for this community again.

[@laco403]

My most boomer opinion is that instant gratification has ruined society. Yes, I'm older. I'm in my late 30s. So it is totally a grandma opinion. I accept that. But DAMN people not willing to wait a week is so ridiculous as someone that grew up in the 90s when waiting was the only thing to do. I actually did use wicked whims,, but you know those people that claim they don't actually like the sex part, they only had it for attraction and periods and stuff? I actually DID use it for that and zoomed out all the way when my Sims got wicked. Since the new pack is about attraction, I didn't even miss it. Not that I don't appreciate TurboDriver. People need to CHILL.

[@tripleabattery2914]

it's not even a boomer opinion it's just common sense. I consider myself a bottom of the barrel person even I understand that updating mods take TIME. GO JERK OFF TO SOMETHING ELSE FOR A WEEK

[@steggopotamus]

Wonderful whims might be for you. But for some reason the fact that wonderful whims didn't have a randomizer for ahem a guy's woohoo stick size bothered me. I felt like they should have kept that just not the animations, but I can get why it might all be intertwined in the code.

[@laco403]

@@steggopotamus I actually did switch over to wonderful yesterday because I learned that the attraction pie menu from TurboDriver's mods is connected to the attraction settings from Lovestruck now, so when you say "Develop Sims attraction based on picked Sims->Sim->heavy settings," it actually makes your Sim attracted to the other sim BASED ON the Lovestruck attraction system which is SO convenient for storytelling.

[@leahthewonder]

In my experience, the sims community is extremely entitled. There are a lot of problems with the sims and ea and how they do things, but they have done cool things too. Not every pack is awful or "should just be base game". Some of them are, but even when the sims team release something that actually IS good, all I ever see is backlash. Criticism is an important part of creation and the community should be speaking up about problems with the game, but criticism doesn't have to be mean. The negativity is just honestly so overwhelming and the fact that its gotten to the point where people arent just mad at ea, but modders who have no obligation to be doing any of what they do (especially not for free), is gross.

[@carmenphoon]

The thing is, Turbodriver even put out a notification before going on vacation that their mod update will be delayed. These incels are definitely entitled and has a prawn addiction! I feel so bad for Turbodriver, and I would absolutely understand if they don't ever update the mod again. Cuz this is so ridiculous!

[@joanacastanheira]

they buy the broken packs but get mad at modders make it make sense

[@Noel.Chmielowiec]

I think there's one thing (that I deduced from what you said) that we both do 'wrong' for lack of better word. We try to find logic in other people actions. And sometimes people do stuff just because they're assholes and there's no logic behind it. I hear it like twice a day from my husband and mum to not look for logic in everyone's actions because I won't find it. And that's fucking insane.

[@JubeiKibagamiFez]

0:37 Well, there goes any chance of a WW update, ever again. Satch did a video on this topic, too. Why are sims fanatics soooo toxic?

[@p.bckman2997]

Actually, WW worked tolerably well with Lovestruck, even before Turbodriver updated it. The WW is an amazingly well made mod, at times it has been quite a bit more stable than the game itself. The doxxing was very, very childish and totally uncalled for.

[@Koenna99]

Theres this mod for Skyrim called Inigo, I love it so much that I can't play without it. It hasn't gotten an update since 2016(Its still useable in its 2.3/2.4 state) but has been shown to have been inprogress since then but the Dev gives little to no updates. Ya know what I did in that case when I saw there wasn't a notable progress update in like 2ish year? I showed concern for the Dev!

[@christinewhoyt]

Then, did something happen? I hope you found a way to contact the Dev and asked politely how they were doing.

[@Koenna99]

Hes just very busy and doesn't want to waste dev time to worrying about posting progress regularly. The man is making a DLC sized ver 3.0 basically by himself while also having a full time job and other life issues but he's still working on it. When I asked concerned about the long lack of any news I was told by someone who was handling the questions for him that I just missed some newer updates cause the nexus post was edited and that didn't give a new notif. I think there was also a youtube community post that I didn't see cause I don't normally check that tab. Still been a while since a new update again but I trust if something went wrong with the Dev there'd be a post about it.

[@alguem5996]

Inigo is such a cool follower mod.

[@Jojojojo-md6ww]

not gonna lie I would have deleted it too or at least stop updating the mod. some people are just disgusting

[@kristen6885]

You are spot on. The community has gotten so toxic over the years it’s taken the fun out of the game. I stopped playing a few years ago because people are so impatient and want everything instantly these days. I don’t believe in paywalls for content. I do enjoy your content and who the hell cares if it’s late. You have a life too and aren’t online all the time. What happened to turbodriver is a safety and security issue. I hope they are ok

[@CynicalCopycat]

Honestly, if it was me and somebody doxxed me I would have just nuked all my mods from the internet or at least stop updating them. Like, it's one thing to be a whiny entitled baby about the mods not being updated fast enough for your liking, there will always be entitled, rude and ungrateful people no matter what you make, it's whatever. But the second you threaten my safety? You're not getting shit from me annymore.

[@TechnoTylerTen]

Imagine doxing someone because you cant joink your sploink for a week???

[@TechnoTylerTen]

Not even just joinking??? Joinking to the SIMS

[@A.C.T1997]

When I went to school for graphic design, I had to take mandatory coding classes and coding is HARD. It is pretty much like math, if you are off by one number or letter or symbol, the entire answer is wrong. It takes time and effort. The fact that people really couldn't understand and wait for the Mod to be updated and got so angry that they had to doxx the person really need to sort out their priorities in life and get psychological help. I like playing with mods but I'm not going to doxx someone because they aren't going fast enough.

[@deggebär]

This is wild and unhinged, and seriously messed up. If I was turbodriver the second someone even mentions wanting to doxx me bc they are not able to play without a nsfw mod until an update, or turn off mods and not play this save file till the update comes etc. I would just take down the mod. How falsely entitled and messed up must ppl be to behave like such creatures. Like hello. Play another game, play without mods, play with a new save and without the mods till an update comes. Like it always has been the same for mods and when an update comes out. This behavior obviously doesn’t represent the sims community at large, but still such groups of ppl need to be called out at the very least bc what the actual f!

[@FiiAFFs]

I cant believe people freaked out to that level. Doxxing is such a horrible thing to do! I low key hope turbodriver stops updating the mod. Feck those people!

[@pocket-stars]

when it comes to stuff like this, people have to remember no ones life depends on this game or any of its mods. no one is gonna die if they cant watch virtual dolls get freaky. it’s not a big deal

[@matheusscharer8265]

Doxxing someone over not being able to watch digital custom woohoo animations is just so unhinged. Whoever did that needs genuine mental health help. I hope turbo is okay after this, and i honestly wouldnt be surprised or mad if they pulled the mod from the internet. As a sane person, yknow what i did when my mods were temporarily broken? I played base game for the first time in a while. I have a separate game file, named base game gameplay, and it was a fine time. Yeah mods add a bit to the game, but at the end of the day, the base game isnt the worst. Like hot take, but the game is mostly playable without mods 🤷‍♂️

[@tigerprincess1109]

One content creator talked about all this and had the audacity to say that they have a right to harass someone for not updating a mod right away just because people pay on their Patreon and I’m like ABSOLUTELY NOT!! Just because you pay so much on someone’s patreon a month DOES NOT mean that you can harass the mod creator and be a shit person. Content creators and mod creators are people too and are allowed to have a LIFE.

[@tripleabattery2914]

this whole situation boils my piss so much. so much vitriol towards people doing FREE LABOR for you just because they didnt jump when you told them to is fucking insane. ive totally scrapped my ideas of modding for ts4 because, frankly, the sims community isnt worth it. my heart goes out to all the modders that were harassed, especially my mans turbodriver. (ps. i want to live in the house fgg made so fucking bad)

[@zhanaemilford7481]

Honestly like go outside and touch grass. Calm down like If I want something I don't threaten the person

[@codex_jinora]

I'm so glad I'm only on the border of the sims 4 community & don't engage with it (beyond commenting on your videos)... I decided to update my mods today & had no idea any of this even happened. Why are the entitled people in this world always so LOUD??? 😩

[@Astro.Period]

You have to go like a week without sims porn and THIS IS YOUR REACTION? DOXXING PEOPLE?

[@KTB-cm05]

Turbo getting doxxed is so crazy. I know he updated the mod, but I am waiting to update it just in case he messed with it somehow. I saw people were saying TwistedMexi was dead because he took a minute to update. People chill. As someone who donates to Turbo, it is still way less than what I paid for my game and DLC. I feel like if pressure should be applied, it should be to EA. Not this disgusting behavior but asking for updates and fixes to be done faster.

[@franklinlewis1097]

I can’t even fathom pestering a mod creator, I literally was looking to see if ui cheats had been updated again, they haven’t, so I thought “oh well, I’ll check back again in a few days”. But being an asshole?? Eugh

[@skykat6489]

doxxing a modder like turbo whos done SO much for the sims modding community because they “aren’t doing enough” is fucking WILD

[@brolya8460]

I'm pretty sure if Turbodriver said something like "Changes by EA are so huge I need more time than usual to update the mod, sorry everyone" and didn't mention the vacation people reaction would be more normal. Because "HOW DARE YOU REST WHEN YOU MUST WORK". Seriously the entitlement of these people reminds me of those shitty exploitative companies which pays you basicaly nothing and expect you to screw you life for them.

[@KD_Oliveira]

When the video topic is so serious and out of character that the build doesn't even bother to have a heinous secret dungeon as usual. _Thx for that, doxxers, that was very helpful..._

[@angeenoirceur]

Straight to jail with doxxer. I’m sure it’s pretty illegal to do this, especially for something so stupid as not releasing an UPDATE FOR GAME

[@marissam9551]

I don’t think the game going free to play is really to blame here. I used to be on sims 4 twitter back in like 2018/2019 when YT channels doing pack giveaways became really popular. I don’t remember which creator it happened to, but basically a new pack had come out (seasons?) and they got a dm from this random kid who asked them to buy the pack for them because they didn’t “want to wait 6 months for Christmas” for their parents to buy it for them. Mind you this creator wasn’t even doing a giveaway or anything! So yeah unfortunately entitlement has been an issue with the sims community for a while. I hope Turbodriver’s okay though, doxxing someone is straight up evil

[@333Vampirewillrule33]

Idk which part is more disturbing, the fact that a modders got doxxed by sims 4 players or that sims 4 players are getting a rep of being porn addicts

[@wallerrobyn3]

As a lover of Sims and as someone who owns every Sims expansion, pack, kits and all that, the thing I understand the most above all else, is that an update breaks everything on an astronomical level, every mod I have will break, and I will be mod-less for a minimum of a week. Does it suck? Yes. Am I mad? No. Because I understand that modding comes with the understanding that updates BREAK THE F-ING MOD SCRIPTING AND it's NOT THE MODDERS FAULT. I accept that I will play vanilla sims for a while and rejoice that I will have modded sims again when I can. Also one of my favorite things to do after an update is to try to find as many bugs and issues as possible because it's funny to me. But that's because I like being a beta tester.

[@joaoaoaoa1030]

i think they're addict to corn and its vitamins

[@BUMMY105]

I use WW as part of my overly realistic life modpack that I've painfully and meticulously constructed, and i'm STILL waiting for a couple hundred mods to be fixed. WW is one of the few that I can respectfully wait as the update was a target to WW's core mechanics. to see people get rowdy over a prawn mod on a game that's already unpopular and non-rewarding to anyone, I'm surprise that Turbo didn't just up and quit. Since they can easily find a job with their current modding abilities and profile, ESPECIALLY when it comes to modding the Sims 4. I TRIED to simply EDIT a Sims 4 mod, and I was completely out of my league when it comes to it. Other game mods were easy to figure out and edit, but Sims 4 was a PAIN. Modders need more respect than what they're getting.

[@YazzyJ718]

Having a game porn addiction sounds like something thats really embarrassing and being so public about too, where's the shame wheres the need to be private about your kinks. Doxxing someone because you cant get your characters off is a huge sign theres something wrong. Seek therapy. You dont even have to leave the house to talk to a therapist if thats what you're worried about. Make the appointment and keep it

[@wXllflwer]

This is actually insane omfg

[@vamplinvamp]

I knew *somebody* was doxxed but I didn’t know it was the *sims messiah themself TURBODRIVER????*

[@person-ty7jy]

worst thing is wicked whims was working almost perfectly after the patch and before he updated it, the only thing I noticed myself was that strip clubs customers wouldn't go in the strip club, but if you weren't using strip clubs as a whole it really wasn't something you would notice. That was the only feature - to my knowledge - that didn't work and it still got people mad for some reason. I'm guessing the people who got mad about it maybe didn't want to risk playing with the unupdated version on the new patch, but at this point if you're that nervous about breaking your game and absolutely wanna keep playing it, just take the precautions for it not to update automatically when a new patch arrives. It's really not that hard and it's on you to do it, not the the modders.

[@InfamousTing-tu5wq]

I would literally NEVER mod again if i was turbo. Patreon comment section got SO insane…they comment section got turned off. If i was turbo…id tell everyone “eat ish”

[@annabethkvenvolden7086]

I don't understand how anyone can think doxxing is an okay solution 😒

[@Squeaky2238]

I'm telling you right now the main reason that nobody takes away something when someone does something wrong is because they would get bigger backlash than the person who did something wrong. I guarantee you that if turbo driver or whatever took the entire mod away because of that one person the entire community would have turned on him and not the person who docked him

[@leepaulse893]

I love mods and your content, but it should be illegal to doxx people unless they are actually criminals. Imagine if Turbo Driver came home and their house got robbed or worse, because of a MOD. Modders would quit all together, because it is too dangerous to be one. Sims 4 content creators would jump ship as well. People don't think.

[@SecretKeeperForever9]

I'm pretty sure you might be able to get this under harassment and endangerment especially in this case where he has a family.

[@littlebear274]

I'd take out the "unless they are actually criminals". Anything that allows people to make a value judgement like that means they're judging the situation on THEIR moral code and people have vastly different opinions on what behaviour is bad enough to be punished. It should be illegal to dox people along with a slew of other harassing behaviour, period, and that way if you want to do it anyway as part of a protest action like how the list of donors behind Heritage 2025 was leaked and things like that, you have to believe it's justified enough to be willing to risk the legal consequences of your actions. Which you'll be able to predict, because if something's illegal the same legislation will also lay out the potential punishments so you can decide whether it's worth it (maybe you're okay with paying a large fine but not with going to jail), and formal legislation isn't going to punish your family members for something you did.

[@leepaulse893]

@@littlebear274 I see. Thank you for giving me a different perspective on it.

[@abifgchannel6771]

OMG I ACTUALLY SAW SPEED BUILD SATURDAY *ON* SATURDAY!!!

[@minakoda8071]

doxxing someone because they couldnt watch their pixel dolls go at it... nah for real i dont understand whats going on in the head of some people..

[@Z0MBI3C4T]

New Karen unlocked🔓 Dangerous level : 9.99999/10 How to get:Don’t update a famous mod

[@hollytaz319]

I don't even play my game for a good week or two after a major update so that the mods can be updated and that the sims team can see the bugs and try to fix

[@spoiledvamp27]

Same - I would have pulled all my shit from the internet.

[@chrystalbliske9512]

I would have taken it down instantly. And honestly, if every single mod creator decided to pull their mods and refuse to release them again, update them, or make new ones I absolutely wouldn't blame them. People are way too weird anymore

[@algharka]

OMG.. LMAO, randomly ran into your video.. I don't watch builds & before I clicked away, I'd already heard enough and was hooked.. couldn't stop laughing thank you you made my day. LOVED EVERY word of the truthful rant. Honestly I can say enough to praise your words, Instantly subbed :) LOl, seriously.. THANKS AGAIN

[@JubeiKibagamiFez]

1:45 Ohh. I just played with the broken mods until I could update them. Especially WW.... Weird stuff happens without outdated versions.

[@megzarie]

Hell I didn't even remove my mods folder and WW was still mostly functional with only thing that I personally noticed wrong was the attraction system not working properly and I shrugged and moved on. Was it wise for me to play with my mods after the update? Probably not. Did I for one second consider doxxing Turbodriver a good idea? Nope. Honestly I didn't even know that were on vacation because im never on Twitter (i refuse to call it X. It's a stupid name for a social media website and you cant convince me otherwise). I just assume that since the lovestruck update was pretty big that most mod creators who make large mods would take a while longer to update said mods. Besides there are other video games that exist besides sims 4. I myself picked up Torchlight 2 to wait out some of the more broken mods. Snb bills last I checked still hasn't gotten an update and I think not having it in the files that I used it for has made the bills system kinda wonky but oh well. No skin off my back lol

[@redhead7th]

this is why i always try to have an unmodded save. i used wickedwhims in my main save to make a poly family, but with the new attraction system from lovestruck, i knew i needed to take a break from that save while bugs got fixed and ww got recoded. i can't even fathom being so entitled that my best line of action would be putting a human being in the spotlight and maybe danger, just because they were going to take a little longer than usual

[@redhead7th]

also i love this build

[@redhead7th]

i could use it for my new unmodded save. notsoberry challenge. my first gen (mint) has outgrown their house because they had twins and then another kid

[@Kree.B.]

You should've built a prison or a grippy sock hotel for this one......

[@NoirEtBlanc86]

To me, it’s no different from how people are as customers in restaurants or stores. There are people who believe that they have a right to treat service workers any way they want because they’re the “customer.” The pandemic really made it worse. That’s why so many videos came out of people loosing their minds in public. WW is such a fun mod. If I was Turbodriver I would’ve shut it down. I’m sure there are awesome unreleased mods out there because people are too scared of the pressure that comes with releasing it.

[@Vampgrimreaper611]

I was watching people getting angry on discord and others were talking about the threats Turbo was getting. I don’t understand why people care so much about a mod

[@456loveluck]

They're horny 😂

[@jadedjhypsi]

I think this sense of entitlement that so many people have today is just sad... how could their lives be so fantastic that this is the only thing they can complain about?

[@ChloeHoyle-d5i]

Imagine being so down bad you commit a crime.

[@veenus_ow]

"it's more like catching these hands because you should know how this works" -- OOF

[@TheWolfie234]

I honestly would've just deleted the mod. I wonder how the doxxers like legit feel? Any remorse? Guilt? Desire to change for the better? Touching grass?