I love watching this again and again, the owner of these pigeons has no fear when he loses a few, it's probably survival of fittest. Also I love the victory lap that these pigeons do when landing.... They are absolutely fantastic birds having to deal with the hawks every day...
@michaelwhitman124710 ай бұрын
Bro your the GOAT at the pigeon game, mastery of the avians
@bradgibson153 жыл бұрын
Your birds are amazing and so fast!!!! They say Falcons dive fast but so do your pigeons. Sorry that you lost a young bird but you treat them wonderfully.
@OuseynouDia-zp9ih8 ай бұрын
Merci 😊😊
@bradmitchell37654 жыл бұрын
Great pigeons, great photography all with the help of great falcons!
@mehboobwaziri43624 жыл бұрын
Such a heart ❤️ touching video you have and also brilliant birds love them all....
@nicubucaloiu91004 жыл бұрын
Aww, man! You've entered so fast in our lives with this video. Not that we don't like it. 🤭 It amazes me how fast they can go, both the hawk and the pigeons. It's like you draw a line from point A to point B, and they can fly the distance as you draw it.🙈 So nice to see this video. And the old ones. And i can bet the pending ones will be as good as these. Thank you, Andrei, and thank your soldiers! 🙏
@christinecoston45183 жыл бұрын
do you have daily attacks?
@MundaPunjabda4 жыл бұрын
Wow your birds are amazing but I am sorry for your loss
@twangbarfly3 жыл бұрын
Epic footage and great music - props to your pigeons!
@mariussirbu69253 жыл бұрын
Ce viață au sărăcuții...își riscă viața în fiecare zi pentru a se bucura de libertate și de plăcerea lor cea mai mare ...ZBORUL . Succes în tot ceea ce faceți !
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Multumesc!
@tejtrambharatt51824 жыл бұрын
My heart bleeds when pigeons get attacked 😢 you have beautiful and powerful birds.
@outoftownr39063 жыл бұрын
People would pay money to watch such epic flying -awesome
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@freddyferret23133 жыл бұрын
Great aerial duels between the falcon and the pigeons, they sure can fly and out manoeuvre the falcon, he has to work hard for his meal. Nature tooth and claw.
@aymanabdelfattah54574 жыл бұрын
God bless your champions👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😍
@toabhijeetsingh4 жыл бұрын
Sad for your loss :-(. Actually the falcon's move was also priceless it gained momentum be going below the bird and then caught it by coming up.
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Yes, smart move. Also the young bird was a big size compared to my loft average.
@mkdgamer27084 жыл бұрын
as always your videos are flawless, but I prefer when you win :)
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to show some fails too, trying to be fairplay. ;)
@mkdgamer27083 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom your pigeons have big hearts,and next time the hawk will be the biggest loser :)
@giurcapetre20044 жыл бұрын
Gladiatorii cerului! Super porumbei, super pregatire, super Spectacol pe cer! Totul la superlativ!
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Multumesc. Chiar ii admir la fel de mult ca pe cei din lotul de zbor la concursuri.
@pakhunters68044 жыл бұрын
amazing pegions and amazing experience sir ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ love from pakistan
@JASPREETSINGH-ms5hp4 жыл бұрын
Enough thrill in the video to rock every bone in my body. Great...👍🙏 Feeling sorry for the YB though.
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
My pulse is 100+ in realtime view of the scenes.
@qabliqabchanel40784 жыл бұрын
Hi hello nice bird thanks you for sharing your videos with us and keep up with the good work
@Dimarik73rus4 жыл бұрын
I'm leaving to watch this video masterpiece on TV :)
@radiationsnowman3 жыл бұрын
awesome!! just frikkin' AWESOME SIR!!
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, Frank.
@radiationsnowman3 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom NO! I did not just like it, I loved it! LOL
@Mdc77483 жыл бұрын
Great video! Always fascinating to see both species pushing their most basic survival traits to the extreme. I still always want the pigeons to win. Your molting female drops in like the birds at the bread factory 👍.
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I can never get bored watching the war of these species.
@mesuttoksen66244 жыл бұрын
Very best pigeons süper pigeon teams and coch 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🧿🕊
@prestosuram15954 жыл бұрын
wow, that incident was very good for pigeon quality selection. think of it as natural selection. always success 🥳
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I always focus on the remaining ones.
@billastell37533 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately from a pigeon racers view this is not the case. Hawks often get the best. I lost two very good ones this year to coopers hawks. Coopers aren't honest hunters like falcons shown in this video. They tend to get the pigeons by stealth not by out flying them. It is almost impossible for most hawks to catch pigeons in full flock flight.
@sivaguru45543 жыл бұрын
Awesome video...thank you
@ionut86g3 жыл бұрын
Love to see them dive, i also let my pigeons fly all winter, they make a great show with The raptors
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@pigeonsofparadisejamaica52713 жыл бұрын
Damn those falcons are fast 🤦🏽♂️ it’s bitter sweet, but can’t say it’s not entertaining 🙈 geesh, thanks for sharing brother and sorry for your losses..👊🏾🇯🇲👊🏾🇯🇲
@robiamsterdam77454 жыл бұрын
It was a youngster or a yearling what the male catch ? And what you can say about the one who was catch like the history of his family... ? Nice falling of pigeons after Coronitza !!
@Pigeonmaniacom4 жыл бұрын
It was an youngster (latebred... 2-3 months old). Part of the origin was from an area free of falcons and hawks. It was also one of the biggest and most heavy of the youngsters. I was sure it won't make it.
@robiamsterdam77454 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom aha interesting, thank you !
@thunderloft99413 жыл бұрын
Ur videos = excitement
@vulpoivasilica59353 жыл бұрын
Super, bravo....
@enoquesantana26533 жыл бұрын
1:46 is this the sound of the hawk's bruising ? amazing
@brahimbarboza10244 жыл бұрын
Thinks for this videos 👍👌🏅
@pegioncluba1indianhighflye7093 жыл бұрын
lovely 😍video 📹
@andriyshmidt62773 жыл бұрын
Super pigeons!!!
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@pigeonsman36404 жыл бұрын
Genul programului - acțiune
@nicubucaloiu91004 жыл бұрын
Acțiune-dramă.
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
+25% horror :>
@pigeonsrus16723 жыл бұрын
When I watch your videos I am very worried about our pigeons already goosebumps on my skin God grant that they always fly away from predators
@haroonhidayat4 жыл бұрын
falcon :wao that was an easy yb hunt lets try another CORONITZA to falcon be like... son dont mess with elders u will face disappointment btw nice to see a video with ur camera the quality was super... and sorry for ur loss
@Pigeonmaniacom4 жыл бұрын
LOL. Slow motion shows her "soccer like" trick. It was close anyway, see how fast the falcon reacts.
@haroonhidayat4 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom yeah that was so neck in neck... but coronitza won the day... absolutely stunning
@GuardianAngel..3 жыл бұрын
@@haroonhidayat I know I know you from somewhere but I’m trying to figure out where.
@haroonhidayat3 жыл бұрын
@@GuardianAngel.. i am everywhere 😜
@GuardianAngel..3 жыл бұрын
@@haroonhidayat oh I remember you now you are my old friend Birds Addiction, your smart mouth gave you away.
@ahsanjan22464 жыл бұрын
don’t warry bro about your lost bard. You have more birds . You have ossssaaaammmm birds.
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Yes, 63 birds still in the game.
@iacobgeorgerazvan6034 жыл бұрын
Foarte faine clipurile si felicitari pentru respectul pentru rapitoare. Oare nu au fost doua femele, una adulta si una juvenila?
@Pigeonmaniacom4 жыл бұрын
Nu stiu, nu prea ma pricep la soimi, au niste aparitii prea rapide si prea indepartate sa ii pot studia.
@pradeepn60403 жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@shagkhan37163 жыл бұрын
Exquisite Pigeons
@dakopierre2404 жыл бұрын
We love your videos to much expression. I admire your pigeons they are very actobatic and tiny its good ,1:53 a few af them split up before the hawk is near but the most of them keep together. Im wondering which method is safest. :) ♥
@Dimarik73rus4 жыл бұрын
stick together until the last moment. Always weaker and less stress-resistant pigeons break away from the flock first.
@dakopierre2404 жыл бұрын
@@Dimarik73rus its true , thats the hawks point, to split. 👍🏼
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Most of the time it's best not to split but sometimes with the falcon, after long "marathon" attacks very high in the sky, it's better to split especially if this is done with a strategy. I've seen a lot of attacks where the falcon kept chasing the flock even if a lot of pigeons were "exploding" out of the flock.
@TH.892 жыл бұрын
That moulting female bird is so fast
@AhmetDemir-eg1ej4 жыл бұрын
.The greetings from turkey pigeon racing career I feed my pigeons but not so quality tip. Will you help me with this problem ........ thank you
@Pigeonmaniacom4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I don't really understand what you want to know.
@AhmetDemir-eg1ej3 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom About how they fly so beautiful mister
@sunilkrishnappa64543 жыл бұрын
Super video graphic which lence and camara 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
@rajibracerpigeonsoldierloft3 жыл бұрын
nice video
@jarotsamiyat52602 жыл бұрын
Menurut saya. .pohon di dpn kandang sedikit mengganggu saat merpatinya mau langsung masuk kandang. Merpatinya bagus. .pengin pelihara jg merpati spt itu. Salam dari indonesia . Salam merpati lover.
@akshaydawkhar92633 жыл бұрын
So niceaa 👍👍👍😘
@chasseurdesvagues3 жыл бұрын
Allah protège tes pigeons, j'aime beaucoup les pigeons voyageurs 💖💖
@pigeonvox57274 жыл бұрын
Frumos ca in tot de una de mult ma aștepta un asa video din ce zona esti din argesi cum va ?
@Pigeonmaniacom4 жыл бұрын
Da, Arges.
@pigeonvox57274 жыл бұрын
Frumoasa zona de munte este la tine
@turgayayanistanbul11263 жыл бұрын
MÂŞALLAH
@hamzakhan95974 жыл бұрын
Awesome birds. How come your racers fly so high?
3 жыл бұрын
Foarte frumosi eu mam abonat
@lengvang18813 жыл бұрын
Bunch of veterans pigeons.
@alparslan70724 жыл бұрын
Perfect 👏👏👏 what is the name of the camera ?
@Pigeonmaniacom4 жыл бұрын
Sony RX10 Mark III, iPhone XR.
@alparslan70724 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom thank you brother
@fritziejefferson4 жыл бұрын
Your pigeons are fast! What are the bloodlines of your pigeons? They are great!
@Pigeonmaniacom4 жыл бұрын
I don't have specific bloodlines. I tried to get good long distance pigeons I could afford. I try to have them small and light.
@putilinyura3 жыл бұрын
Pigeons are strong fellows. A predator is always stressful.
@Dimarik73rus3 жыл бұрын
Привет Юра, хорошо что ты суда зашел. Посмотри как тут работает тетеревятник. Он уже больше похож на проживающих в Средней Полосе России ястребов, и сильно отличается от снятых южных вялых атак.. Его агрессия зависит только от голода. Именно по этому многие в России могут себе позволить гонять голубей летом под сапсанов и карликов, но закрывают в зиму от тетеревятника.
@putilinyura3 жыл бұрын
@@Dimarik73rus Всегда бывает по разному особенно когда лежит снег ястреб становится сильно настырный и частенько добивается своего.
@robert27573 жыл бұрын
Salut si eu sunt din Argeș și la mine da cam tot la fel ,imi poti spune care e cel mai bătrân porumbel din lotul asta sau cel mai bătrân pana la ce varsta a ajuns în lotul acesta pt plăcerea zborului ,mulțumesc!
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Salut. Am 6 porumbei de 2016, 4 femele si 2 masculi. O sa le fac o prezentare in curand. Au mai fost cativa dar pe cei care nu zboara mult nu ii tin.
@robert27573 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom ok mulțumesc frumos!
@hassanali-no7ur3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE FALCONS AND LOVE TO WATCH THEM HUNTING but dont know y every time watching these video i support pigeons to defeat falcon
@jozefpigeon49153 жыл бұрын
Dar când vine dintr-un zbor greu epuizat ce pradă ușoară pentru un asemenea pradator, care-l așteaptă odihnit prada, nu am putut filma cum urmarea un porumbel obosit și-l ataca de multe ori pînă la urmă la capturat....deacea se pierd mulți,
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Tocmai de aceea sunt de apreciat porumbeii care realizeaza palmares pe mai multi ani.
@jozefpigeon49153 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom foarte rari sunt cu palmaresul pe mai mulți ani, mai ales dacă se raportează la numărul de porumbei participanți, sunt extrem de rari cu palmaresul. Ca să realizeze palmaresul trebuie gândit câți porumbei au ajuns hrana pradatorilor a soimilor ca să ajungă câțiva cu palmaresul. Din10 în 10 km.sunt atacați pe tot traseul de zbor,de mai mulți rapitori, scapă acei porumbei care au traseul liber când soimi consumă porumbei prinși de pe culoarul de zbor ... asta-i realitatea .
@qasimkhan90623 жыл бұрын
I love pigeon
@aslamusa86333 жыл бұрын
I can feel your pain.,,,,,,,,,
@hassanali-no7ur3 жыл бұрын
U HAVE sharpe eye sight then falcon..the way u told the falcon was chasing a meture molting female
@danielretegan70104 жыл бұрын
Sant franti
@alexscolavino33014 жыл бұрын
How long did it take for all of the birds to come back after they dispersed?
@Pigeonmaniacom4 жыл бұрын
Most of them got back in the first hour, a few late after sunset and 2 of them next morning. The first serious falcon races up there are hard for the youngsters.
@yakupsats3597 Жыл бұрын
türkiye urfadan selamlar☺
@pinti16073 жыл бұрын
Hard training for real champions
@mesuttoksen66244 жыл бұрын
2:23YB341 game over😱😔😔😔
@mohdarifalvi7204 жыл бұрын
Nice
@Dimarik73rus4 жыл бұрын
We see that you love the attacks of birds of prey. It is a pity that the hawk in your area did not open up completely, to the maximum of its capabilities. An adult Goshawk shows a very beautiful chase. Especially when it chases its prey from a height, repeating the tricks of a pigeon, the Falcon is not capable of this.
@Pigeonmaniacom4 жыл бұрын
It depends on pigeons - what kind of breed do you mean? On healthy racing pigeons in form, hawks always give up quickly if they sense they have no chance. I've been watching this for over 20 years. They do chase them a lot if they feel they can get them, sometimes I've seen them chasing the target over 2 minutes. This happens on racers that are either sick, too fat, not in form, or too young, weak or tired. Of course I would film hawks chasing but they never do, because they either catch the sick pigeons immediately behind the trees and there is nothing to film or they just give up quickly if they feel they have no chance. On the other hand the falcon chases sometimes successfully even perfectly fit pigeons. You can see in this slow motion zoom at 4:07 how fast they react to the change of direction or the tricks the pigeons try to escape. This was an experienced female but she was moulting late and this slows her down... she had a hard time escaping.
@Dimarik73rus4 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom Wild, only wild pigeons living next to people. Our pigeons from the dovecote will never be able to react and run away from the birds of prey like their wild brothers. From about 1993 to 2005, I watched almost every winter day as a goshawk attacking wild blue pigeons. I saw a goshawk driving flocks of pigeons up to 500 meters high. Yes, in the pursuit itself, the hawk pursues no more than 30-50 seconds, rarely more than a minute. But he did not immediately catch these pigeons, out of 10 attacks 3-4 were successful. The hawk could attack the pigeons all winter day until the hawk caught. These wild pigeons lived in the attics of human buildings and in factories, it got to the point that the hawk flew into the buildings themselves for pigeons, was so hungry. The falcon has just begun to settle with us, but it still flies away for the winter, because the falcon cannot hunt local wild pigeons as successfully as the Goshawk.
@Pigeonmaniacom4 жыл бұрын
@@Dimarik73rus Yes, the falcon has a hard time hunting wild pigeons because they rarely go very high in the sky like it wants. However, I've seen some documentaries of it hunting between the buildings (in New York I think). Also here, it caught some pigeons really low at ground level. Most domestic pigeon breeds are inferior to their wild ancestors in terms of agility and survival instincts because people selected them for beauty and other things. But racing pigeons are different, this is why I love them so much - they are the only breed that people made even better than their wild ancestors through selection. The selection of racing pigeons in races doesn't lose the agility like in other breeds but makes it even better. They have to fly over 1000 Km to get home in some races, this means they travel through hundreds of birds of prey territories, they survive hundreds of attacks - all these while being tired, hungry, thirsty sometimes and mentally stressed. Only the best survive and breed. They also get mixed with hundreds of birds from other lofts in heat & overcrowded conditions and they drink from the same water for a few days in the race car, and so fanciers also selected a very strong immunity, I could say better than in the wild relatives.
@Dimarik73rus4 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom Wow, great, Google Translate translated your message perfectly, I understood every sentence! Wild pigeons, flying 20-30 km every morning for feeding, rarely rise above 200-300 meters. But this height is enough for eagles to attack pigeons, not to mention a falcon, it is much more maneuverable than small eagles. It's not about flight altitude. In autumn, many victims of the hawk fly away for the winter. And they stay for the winter - wild pigeons and jackdaws. Among these pigeons, the hawk selects weak, late chicks until November-December. From December to March, the pigeons feeding the hawks remain in excellent physical shape. It is more difficult for a falcon to catch such pigeons, regardless of flight altitude, even on a clean, empty field, without a single tree - it is more difficult for a falcon to catch a pigeon than for a hawk. About pigeon breeds. Natural selection, attacks of dozens of different predators make wild pigeons ideal. Wild pigeons do not need to circle in the sky for 10 hours, as pedigrees do, or fly long distances, as sports pigeons do. In any case, wild pigeons remain strong. Already in childhood, their actions against a predator are much better and more competent than that of domestic pigeons. These skills wild pigeons receive from wild parents, and they are transmitted by genes. We are also engaged in sports birds in Russia. And we lose a lot of nesting birds, and they are nailed to the wild, live with them in attics, and fly with the wildlife to feed in the fields, walk to granaries. Whether it is a high-flying pigeon breed or an athletic one. However, in winter they cannot withstand the attacks of goshaws. The hawk is the first to knock them out of the flock of wild pigeons.
@robiamsterdam77454 жыл бұрын
And guys don t forget, wild pigeons need to find food and shelter between all kind of predators, sport pigeons they have everything in the cage, i gueess wild pigeon are more more superior to the cage pigeons.
@hristohristov40133 жыл бұрын
Around your home has a nest of falcons. Do you try to remove it? Congrats you have amazing pigeons! :)
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Actually there are two falcon pairs and they fight each other. Why remove them, they remove the weakest pigeons so I don't have to, I never cull pigeons. So they make room for better birds.
@leshakhudina43913 жыл бұрын
Голуби очень быстрые и красивые
@mohdarifalvi7204 жыл бұрын
Kahan ki hai video
@iserbang3n8063 жыл бұрын
Câmpulung Mușcel?
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Da.
@user-hj9kn3hb2s3 жыл бұрын
Do you know male falcon&female who faster?
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
Male.
@mohamedmeriouchi14374 жыл бұрын
plz tell me did you use something for worms
@Pigeonmaniacom4 жыл бұрын
Nothing in the last 10 years. Thinking about trying next year, but I'm not sure.
@Dimarik73rus4 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom If a person does not pass an analysis of a bird for helminths, then he needs to apply an anthelmintic to pigeons 2 times a year.
@mohamedmeriouchi14373 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom I've just seen your reply. I will also try to keep them without medicine. I give them food, some natural stuffs like ginger... I hope they do will with this .For me, medicine is like a credit bank . First time you think you have to get it. After it will be your habit. The world needs strong immune system. Thank you for sharing your knowledge .
@unlimitedpassion98564 жыл бұрын
Si vara tot atat de numeroase sunt atacurile ?
@Pigeonmaniacom4 жыл бұрын
Nu. Sunt de uliu uneori, de soim aproape deloc. El la final de Noiembrie incepe tare la mine.
@unlimitedpassion98564 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom a dat foamea in ei acum, o sa continui sa.le mai dai drumu din cand in cand ? Sau faci precum altii...inchisi pana la primavara
@Pigeonmaniacom4 жыл бұрын
@@unlimitedpassion9856 i-am inchis de ceva timp pe cei care zboara in concursuri la anul. Cei din filmare sunt pentru placerea zborului si experiment, scosi din oua tarzii pe care oricum le-as fi aruncat.
@unlimitedpassion98563 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom din ce zona esti ?
@pigeonsofparadisejamaica52713 жыл бұрын
💝
@aymanabdelfattah54574 жыл бұрын
Any one lost?
@Pigeonmaniacom4 жыл бұрын
3
@tsovtom13543 жыл бұрын
Dont we all have to pay to the Gods of the skies for satisfying our desires?
@ryanlapinad3 жыл бұрын
is this feral falcon?
@Pigeonmaniacom3 жыл бұрын
If you mean wild, yes.
@totokbudiutomo97893 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@yabanguvercinlerndunyas17733 жыл бұрын
O may goot
@boymiotman72724 жыл бұрын
Tooop ❤️❤️🕊️
@mikecrawford733 жыл бұрын
set a trap and take him by by like 2 hundred miles
@blcpetfood36423 жыл бұрын
Game Over :(
@andreiardelean9304 жыл бұрын
Și mie mia prins o femela irei și un bună 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@andreiardelean9304 жыл бұрын
Una*
@abdrahimmousaid79053 жыл бұрын
💪💪💪💪💪
@habibdaldal32093 жыл бұрын
Postalar ölümüne kaçıyıor
@craigarmstrong18754 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry that you lost a bird to that horrible falcon
@dragostincatalin6573 жыл бұрын
Te a disperat heretii 😢
@habibdaldal32093 жыл бұрын
Can tatlı
@sergey39284 жыл бұрын
👀👍👍👍
@habibdaldal32093 жыл бұрын
Ölüm müziği
@all4pets_hm3 жыл бұрын
So sad
@ЕвгенийКузьмичев-ю4ы4 жыл бұрын
Злой у вас сапсан
@Dimarik73rus4 жыл бұрын
Сапсан здесь вообще огонь. В других видео он до земли рубит птицу. Да и тетеревятник не плох, но хотелось бы видеть его более агрессивные атаки, которые он умеет делать.
@egemov83 жыл бұрын
Falcon vs pegion me 👓video
@MrBau0075 ай бұрын
Deci pe mine unul m-ar dispera maxim. Doar pentru ăștia mi-aș face permis de vânătoare 🤦😅 și aici în Germania sunt o groază dar mi-am luat "unelte" să-i sperii cel puțin, că altfel aș avea în fiecare săptămână câte unul în minus. Îi cresc pentru mine nu să-i satur pe stricații ăștia, că și aici s-au înmulțit în prostie și nu-i vânează nici naiba🤨
@herususanto88012 жыл бұрын
Gilaa bisa mati merpati itu kok mlah di terbngkan mrptinya